Try giving it to My Ancestry then if you loose it try getting it back for nothing. My friend did and they told her she had to pay to get the information she had supplied them.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MScheffler" <mscheffl@twcny.rr.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:05 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Perspective on selling and sharing > The belief by many that individuals make money selling their family > genealogy is really a myth. This is SUCH an expensive hobby in terms of > time and money. Even if one were to sell a family history book after > years of research, they likely would have spent way more than they could > sell a book for. Compiling a well researched family genealogy is a labor > of love, never a money making proposition > > I can't conceive of anyone making money selling their research or any > one else's. Perhaps you are referring to the material people submitted to > the FTM people to have put on cds where the company would have made some > money on the sale of the cds. Although I did not submit my data there, > the company did let people know that the cds would be sold. But so what, > if a person shared a few names with a fellow researcher and they submitted > the file to FTM. Life is to short to worry about that. > > I have been the recipient of the kindnesses of others who freely shared > their research. Most of us are likely not to be able to reciprocate for > many of the people who helped us, particularly in the beginning, but we > can help the next person down the road. > > There is probably such a thing as "smart sharing" and "stupid sharing". > I have been aware of "a few" people on some lists that share nothing > helpful but ask for my or other people's total gedcom files. I tell them > they can find all my research on WorldConnect where I have everything but > my living people. If they want to put in a little effort, they can acquire > my submissions. > > I do limit the number of generations that people can download so that > I do not find my ENTIRE database merged with someone else's and > resubmitted. I like others make mistakes, and I want to be able to fix my > mistakes when I find them. I don't respond to requests to "send me > everything you have". But most any reasonable request results in my taking > the extra mile to help. > > I love this hobby. It makes my day when I can provide someone with a > tidbit of information that solves perhaps a 10 year search. So hopefully > rolaruen will enjoy sharing. > > If you or anyone else does not want your entire file merged with > someone else's database, share with a pedigree chart, a couple family > groups sheets, reports of a few generations or submit your gedcom to > WorldConnect and limit gedcom downloads; > > Limiting your help to specific issues can encourage people to do their > own data entry and begin to realize how much work this hobby of ours > entails if we do it the right way. It can also make us feel pleased that > we were able to help. The initial help may bring out a dialog where both > help each other even more. > > Margaret Scheffler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rolaruen" <rolauren@verizon.net> > > I am not in favor of giving away my families data to anyone I suspect is > specifically intent on sell it, i.e.: has a business whose direct or > specific intent is to make money on other peoples research and personal > history. > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

I have no idea what "My Ancestry" is. But if you contribute a database to WorldConnect, you can remove it or replace it or add something new whenever one wants -- ALL WITHOUT COST. If one does submit data, especially to sites, not well known, they should read the find print . In any case collections of names and dates cannot be copyrighted -- these are in the public domain. However, the point I was making is that good researchers do not make money from publishing genealogy books as it costs way more to research and publish the book than one can get back from sales. Even good sized family surname associations have a hard time getting a book published due to the cost. It is difficult to sell enough books to get back the upfront cost of publishing. And the cost of researching one will likely never get back. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Rowsey Dirk" <halylu@twcny.rr.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Perspective on selling and sharing > Try giving it to My Ancestry then if you loose it try getting it back for > nothing. My friend did and they told her she had to pay to get the > information she had supplied them..

Thank you Marilyn. Yesterday, I once again was 'brought' to Ancestry.com by a link that seemed 'okay' for me to use. I never consciously go there. While there I 'read' that 'I' updated - submitted or corrected my file in January 2006, uploading new/additional data. I was shocked! I did no such thing... I read a bit of the data and it certainly seemed to me that some of it was developed after I stopped visiting Ancestry several years ago! I think the only submittal I made to Ancestry was an email indicating that the file was accumulated my my uncle who had since died, and my name and email addy could be attached for researchers to contact... I do not recall submitting and updated file. I could have but I don't recall. This was many many years ago. And I know that within a short time thereafter, I realized submitters get no benefits... yet Ancestry collects money on hundreds of thousand of submitters files. That is robbing people without cutting them in on the take in any way. I call that piggish usury. The 'free stuff' can be obtained freely on other sites. I wonder where and how they get the new data to incorporate into my file. Shocked and protective of my families data Lauren Rowe -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Rowsey Dirk [mailto:halylu@twcny.rr.com] Sent: August 10, 2006 6:30 PM To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Perspective on selling and sharing Try giving it to My Ancestry then if you loose it try getting it back for nothing. My friend did and they told her she had to pay to get the information she had supplied them.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MScheffler" <mscheffl@twcny.rr.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:05 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Perspective on selling and sharing > The belief by many that individuals make money selling their family > genealogy is really a myth. This is SUCH an expensive hobby in terms of > time and money. Even if one were to sell a family history book after > years of research, they likely would have spent way more than they could > sell a book for. Compiling a well researched family genealogy is a labor > of love, never a money making proposition > > I can't conceive of anyone making money selling their research or any > one else's. Perhaps you are referring to the material people submitted to > the FTM people to have put on cds where the company would have made some > money on the sale of the cds. Although I did not submit my data there, > the company did let people know that the cds would be sold. But so what, > if a person shared a few names with a fellow researcher and they submitted > the file to FTM. Life is to short to worry about that. > > I have been the recipient of the kindnesses of others who freely shared > their research. Most of us are likely not to be able to reciprocate for > many of the people who helped us, particularly in the beginning, but we > can help the next person down the road. > > There is probably such a thing as "smart sharing" and "stupid sharing". > I have been aware of "a few" people on some lists that share nothing > helpful but ask for my or other people's total gedcom files. I tell them > they can find all my research on WorldConnect where I have everything but > my living people. If they want to put in a little effort, they can acquire > my submissions. > > I do limit the number of generations that people can download so that > I do not find my ENTIRE database merged with someone else's and > resubmitted. I like others make mistakes, and I want to be able to fix my > mistakes when I find them. I don't respond to requests to "send me > everything you have". But most any reasonable request results in my taking > the extra mile to help. > > I love this hobby. It makes my day when I can provide someone with a > tidbit of information that solves perhaps a 10 year search. So hopefully > rolaruen will enjoy sharing. > > If you or anyone else does not want your entire file merged with > someone else's database, share with a pedigree chart, a couple family > groups sheets, reports of a few generations or submit your gedcom to > WorldConnect and limit gedcom downloads; > > Limiting your help to specific issues can encourage people to do their > own data entry and begin to realize how much work this hobby of ours > entails if we do it the right way. It can also make us feel pleased that > we were able to help. The initial help may bring out a dialog where both > help each other even more. > > Margaret Scheffler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rolaruen" <rolauren@verizon.net> > > I am not in favor of giving away my families data to anyone I suspect is > specifically intent on sell it, i.e.: has a business whose direct or > specific intent is to make money on other peoples research and personal > history. > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >