Add to Doug's comments that most libraries that have access to Heritage Quest let you use the service at home by typing in your library barcode. In addition to the US census HQ has a good selection of old family histories and other books and access to the Rev. War Pension Files & Bounty land applications that one can find in libraries on microfilm. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: <Groner2413@aol.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Genealogy Research >I forgot to mention that I recently discovered that my local library has > library versions of Ancestry.com and Heritage Quest,which are free to use > any > time the library is open.If your library does not have these I suggest you > prod > them to obtain it.It is free to them > Doug Groner

go to the Rootsweb wesite for Long Island.Then check for Cemetary records.If you are lucky you will find a listing with dates for your relative. Doug Groner

I have a distant relative buried in a military cemetery in NY State (on Long Island). 1-Is there a way I can get the info on the headstone? 2-I know people can obtain military records of a deceased relative. Does anyone know the web site? Please send reply to me at: drafky@dadeschools.net Thanks to all. Dave R.... (Dr.) David Rafky Senior Grant Writer Miami-Dade County Public Schools Grant Development Unit 1500 Biscayne Boulevard #239 Miami, FL 33132 ph: 305-995-2696 fx: 305-995-1514 drafky@dadeschools.net -----Original Message----- From: NYOSWEGO-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NYOSWEGO-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 8:02 AM To: NYOSWEGO-D@rootsweb.com Subject: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V06 #49

I forgot to mention that I recently discovered that my local library has library versions of Ancestry.com and Heritage Quest,which are free to use any time the library is open.If your library does not have these I suggest you prod them to obtain it.It is free to them Doug Groner

The census is my primary source,I make paper copies of each and store them in Surname folders. City directories and village,town,county and state records are next.I use LDS records & family search,state history and archives records,cemetary and funeral home records.Rootsweb lists & World connect. I attended an LDS course on Family History ,which was very helpful for a beginner. All of my results are entered into an online Data base "OneGreatFamily.com",which is both a repository and a source for family history.Since the data is stored online,my two computer crashes did not lose any data.Both pedigree and family charts can be printed from this source. I have probably forgotten some of my processes but family serach.org,census,roots web lists & we sites are highly used.I highly recommend contacting an LDS family history center and siging up for their free course in Family History.They are very helpful and only minor costs are involved. Doug Groner

Mabry, I would love to see what your guidelines are. I have just lumbered along without any real direction and I just happen onto things. I rely heavily on my two programs, Family Tree Maker and GenSmarts. Once said, I have had two hard drive crashes without adequate back up..Yikes. Thank goodness for fellow researchers and the wonderful way that they share. Vera

Mabry, Would appreciate a copy of your research guidelines as I have a friend who is "getting involved." It's always better to compare one's way with someone else's. Thanks in advance! Sherry in IL (My family is from NYOSWEGO). Will be visiting the area this summer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MScheffler" <mscheffl@twcny.rr.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Genealogy Research > Well, I don't plan to laugh at anyone. Different people are at > different points in their research and have different needs. Yes, when I > was just beginning, a notebook computer was not necessary for my weekly > trips to the library. Now that I have most of my basic lines finished to > the best of my ability at this point in time, I am doing some single name > studies for a few surnames, and doing lookups for others, particularly where > I have resources at home or online resources I subscribe to. > > Everything I research goes in my main database which consists of 127,000 > plus names of which at least 99% are hand entered/typed and NOT a > collection of the gedcom files of others. I am currently in the process of > typing the entire 3 volumes of Donald Lines Jacobus monumental 3 volume work > "Families of Ancient New Haven" into my database to share online. When > complete with my additions, I hope to add additionally correct lineages to > the many incorrect ones currently posted online at WorldConnect/Ancestry. > > Finding those elusive ancestors often involves researching neighbors, > surrounding communities, families of spouses, etc. If one keeps at this > process long enough, the paper copies become unwieldy. Most of us who do > this for a period of years have file cabinets full of papers almost > impossible to organize in a way that makes the information readily > accessible. If the names and explanatory material are entered into a > computer database, when one reads a query online, it takes only a few > seconds to determine if one has information they can provide to the > questioner. And the online shared information sometimes results in people > writing to offer something new! > > As a research strategy researching ONLY one's direct line can end up in > years of frustration, where if one branched out, there is the possibility of > finding the clues that lead to a solution. There are truly "brick wall" > problems, but often the brick walls are because people lack research skills > and resources. Genealogy is like one big giant jigsaw puzzle that provides > ongoing challenges. > > The security of a laptop is really a non-issue. How many people have had > their computers stolen from a library if the user takes reasonable > precautions such as not going out to lunch and leaving it unattended for > hours? Probably very few. When taking mine to a downtown library or other > very public place I carry it in an ordinary book bag so as not to draw > attention to the fact I may be carrying something valuable. If I am in a > place where I believe security to be an issue, I have a lock that allows me > to attach it to a chair or table. I have used it so infrequently, that I > likely not used it in two years <g> > > Lack of a computer does not prevent one from doing good research, but it > sure make the process easier. Except for the rank beginner, I highly > recommend its use. > > A major advantage to a computer genealogy database is the ability to > share with others. While computer generated reports have their drawbacks in > terms of creativity and originality, they do make it easy to share with > interested family and friends. One can easily share the sources for fact > events making it easier for the recipient to recheck and continue the > research. Should one pass on before completing their work, their work will > live on where it has been shared. My goal is to determine our family's > ancestry to the best of my ability and also to contribute to the pursuit of > genealogy as a whole. > > Again if any newbies would like the research guidelines I created, > please let me know and I will send them to you. They don't cover everything > obviously, but they will get you started. > > Margaret Scheffler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mabry Benson" <benson@acm.org> > To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:16 PM > Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Genealogy Research > > > > Talk about how people have different approaches. > > I laughed when Margaret Scheffler said she was so glad she had her laptop > > along when she went out for research, because my attitude has always been > > that I am glad I am NOT carrying around a lap top and having to worry > > about its security. I print out Family Sheets with my information on them > > for just the families I plan to research. They are compact and easy to > > carry, and I doubt that anyone would want to take them. I also keep my > > research notes on old fashioned paper. I could never be bothered to retype > > them into the computer, and lots of the info probably wouldn't ever be > > entered. So they are paper clipped to my info sheet, and I am ready to do > > more digging. > > Each to his own. > > Mabry Benson > > > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

The cemetery walk being our first venture at it, we will be pleased if we get a handful of people. It is still an active cemetery. I think it has been a few years since one was buried there. The historical society did a major clean up at the cemeteries several years ago and repaired needed stones. There are probably more that could use TLC now. The town mows the abandoned cemeteries a couple of times a year and members tend to them when branches need to be moved. It is truly a beautiful cemetery. I will attempt attaching pictures, but not sure that is allowed. If not go to http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Parish-Community-Recreation/ and I will post the pictures there, for those interested. I would be happy to do an update on the success of our walk. I am looking forward to portraying myggggrandmother Mariah Heiser Miller. Chris-- if you would like to share information on your "Charles and Hannah Johnson and some of their children " The PTHS would love to create a folder or add to an existing folder. Thanks for your interest--Mary Lou Miller Guindon NYOSWEGO-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: NYOSWEGO-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 48 Today's Topics: #1 Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk [Mary Lou Guindon #2 [NYOSWEGO] Dutch Hill Cemetery Wal ["Russell Sprague" #3 Re: [NYOSWEGO] Dutch Hill Cemetery ["Chris Andrle" Administrivia: To unsubscribe from NYOSWEGO-D, send a message to NYOSWEGO-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to NYOSWEGO-admin@rootsweb.com List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ______________________________Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 02:10:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Mary Lou Guindon <guindfam@yahoo.com> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk The Dutch Hill Cemetery, where many of Parish’s pioneers are buried, is the location for the first cemetery walk ever held in the town’s history. The walk is being conducted by the Parish Town Historical Society on Saturday, May 13 at 2:00 PM at the Dutch Hill Cemetery, Dutch Hill Road in Parish. Cemetery walks are becoming more popular as a way of honoring the contributions and lives of people who were a part of the community in the past. The guided walk will be led by Town Historian, Bridget Swartz with members of the Parish Town Historical Society portraying the lives of some of the deceased buried at the Dutch Hill Cemetery. Guests will encounter the various interpreters in period costume and demeanor at locations amid the gravestones and learn of their lives and roles in the rich history of Parish. This is unique experience is free and open to the public. The Parish Brownie Girl Scout Troop 296 will be serving lemon-aide and cookies. In God we Trust Let there be Peace, Mary Lou 315.625.4575 www.syracuse.com/weblogs/parish http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Parish-Community-Recreation/ - ------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ______________________________Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 11:41:58 +0000 From: "Russell Sprague" <russxsprague@hotmail.com> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk Good to see this posted and I'll be curious how it turns out. Hope you will send an update later. Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland From: Mary Lou Guindon Reply-To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 02:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk The Dutch Hill Cemetery, where many of Parish’s pioneers are buried, is the location for the first cemetery walk ever held in the town’s history. The walk is being conducted by the Parish Town Historical Society on Saturday, May 13 at 2:00 PM at the Dutch Hill Cemetery, Dutch Hill Road in Parish. Cemetery walks are becoming more popular as a way of honoring the contributions and lives of people who were a part of the community in the past. The guided walk will be led by Town Historian, Bridget Swartz with members of the Parish Town Historical Society portraying the lives of some of the deceased buried at the Dutch Hill Cemetery. Guests will encounter the various interpreters in period costume and demeanor at locations amid the gravestones and learn of their lives and roles in the rich history of Parish. This is unique experience is free and open to the public. The Parish Brownie Girl Scout Troop 296 will be serving lemon-aide and cookies. In God we Trust Let there be Peace, Mary Lou 315.625.4575 www.syracuse.com/weblogs/parish http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Parish-Community-Recreation/ - ------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ______________________________Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 08:09:18 -0400 From: "Chris Andrle" <cjandrle@verizon.net> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk I recall visiting Dutch Hill Cemetery many years ago. I remember it being just a scattering of stones, some fallen and broken, in the middle of the woods. Has it changed much? My ancestors Charles and Hannah Johnson and some of their children are buried there. Chris Andrle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Guindon" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 5:10 AM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk > Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk > > The Dutch Hill Cemetery, where many of Parish's pioneers are buried, is > the location for the first cemetery walk ever held in the town's history. > > The walk is being conducted by the Parish Town Historical Society on > Saturday, May 13 at 2:00 PM at the Dutch Hill Cemetery, Dutch Hill Road in > Parish. > > Cemetery walks are becoming more popular as a way of honoring the > contributions and lives of people who were a part of the community in the > past. > > The guided walk will be led by Town Historian, Bridget Swartz with > members of the Parish Town Historical Society portraying the lives of some > of the deceased buried at the Dutch Hill Cemetery. Guests will encounter > the various interpreters in period costume and demeanor at locations amid > the gravestones and learn of their lives and roles in the rich history of > Parish. > > This is unique experience is free and open to the public. The Parish > Brownie Girl Scout Troop 296 will be serving lemon-aide and cookies. > > > > In God we Trust > Let there be Peace, > Mary Lou > 315.625.4575 > www.syracuse.com/weblogs/parish > http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Parish-Community-Recreation/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great > rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > In God we Trust Let there be Peace, Mary Lou 315.625.4575 www.syracuse.com/weblogs/parish http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Parish-Community-Recreation/ --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.

Good to see this posted and I'll be curious how it turns out. Hope you will send an update later. Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland From: Mary Lou Guindon <guindfam@yahoo.com> Reply-To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 02:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk The Dutch Hill Cemetery, where many of Parish’s pioneers are buried, is the location for the first cemetery walk ever held in the town’s history. The walk is being conducted by the Parish Town Historical Society on Saturday, May 13 at 2:00 PM at the Dutch Hill Cemetery, Dutch Hill Road in Parish. Cemetery walks are becoming more popular as a way of honoring the contributions and lives of people who were a part of the community in the past. The guided walk will be led by Town Historian, Bridget Swartz with members of the Parish Town Historical Society portraying the lives of some of the deceased buried at the Dutch Hill Cemetery. Guests will encounter the various interpreters in period costume and demeanor at locations amid the gravestones and learn of their lives and roles in the rich history of Parish. This is unique experience is free and open to the public. The Parish Brownie Girl Scout Troop 296 will be serving lemon-aide and cookies. In God we Trust Let there be Peace, Mary Lou 315.625.4575 www.syracuse.com/weblogs/parish http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Parish-Community-Recreation/ --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1&cent;/min. ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I recall visiting Dutch Hill Cemetery many years ago. I remember it being just a scattering of stones, some fallen and broken, in the middle of the woods. Has it changed much? My ancestors Charles and Hannah Johnson and some of their children are buried there. Chris Andrle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Guindon" <guindfam@yahoo.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 5:10 AM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk > Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk > > The Dutch Hill Cemetery, where many of Parish's pioneers are buried, is > the location for the first cemetery walk ever held in the town's history. > > The walk is being conducted by the Parish Town Historical Society on > Saturday, May 13 at 2:00 PM at the Dutch Hill Cemetery, Dutch Hill Road in > Parish. > > Cemetery walks are becoming more popular as a way of honoring the > contributions and lives of people who were a part of the community in the > past. > > The guided walk will be led by Town Historian, Bridget Swartz with > members of the Parish Town Historical Society portraying the lives of some > of the deceased buried at the Dutch Hill Cemetery. Guests will encounter > the various interpreters in period costume and demeanor at locations amid > the gravestones and learn of their lives and roles in the rich history of > Parish. > > This is unique experience is free and open to the public. The Parish > Brownie Girl Scout Troop 296 will be serving lemon-aide and cookies. > > > > In God we Trust > Let there be Peace, > Mary Lou > 315.625.4575 > www.syracuse.com/weblogs/parish > http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Parish-Community-Recreation/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great > rates starting at 1&cent;/min. > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Dutch Hill Cemetery Walk The Dutch Hill Cemetery, where many of Parish’s pioneers are buried, is the location for the first cemetery walk ever held in the town’s history. The walk is being conducted by the Parish Town Historical Society on Saturday, May 13 at 2:00 PM at the Dutch Hill Cemetery, Dutch Hill Road in Parish. Cemetery walks are becoming more popular as a way of honoring the contributions and lives of people who were a part of the community in the past. The guided walk will be led by Town Historian, Bridget Swartz with members of the Parish Town Historical Society portraying the lives of some of the deceased buried at the Dutch Hill Cemetery. Guests will encounter the various interpreters in period costume and demeanor at locations amid the gravestones and learn of their lives and roles in the rich history of Parish. This is unique experience is free and open to the public. The Parish Brownie Girl Scout Troop 296 will be serving lemon-aide and cookies. In God we Trust Let there be Peace, Mary Lou 315.625.4575 www.syracuse.com/weblogs/parish http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Parish-Community-Recreation/ --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1&cent;/min.

I held back a day or two but would like to throw in my two cents worth. I think one excellent approach people might consider is that taken by Dick Weber (search 'sprague project' at google and a link will display). His online database is searchable just like your home pc genealogy programs. As administrator, he controls what info is updated. He recognizes there will be differences of opinion and publishes the known conflicts. There is a cost for the genealogy program 'TNG' 'the next generation' but it is (my opinion) modest. There is also a monthly fee for site hosting which again (my opinion) is modest. Worth taking a look at. Having said all that, if we could all live another hundred years, I have no idea what will happen with all the computer databases but I suspect books will still be around in paper and on shelves. Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland From: DorPartsch@aol.com Reply-To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Genealogy Research Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 16:01:44 EDT In a message dated 5/2/2006 1:12:47 AM Central Standard Time, mscheffl@twcny.rr.com writes: I am currently in the process of typing the entire 3 volumes of Donald Lines Jacobus monumental 3 volume work "Families of Ancient New Haven" into my database to share online. When complete with my additions, I hope to add additionally correct lineages to the many incorrect ones currently posted online at WorldConnect/Ancestry. Margaret, a thousand thanks for doing this immense project! ~ Dori (a descendant of ancient New Haven families) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~partsch/index.htm ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

In a message dated 5/2/2006 1:12:47 AM Central Standard Time, mscheffl@twcny.rr.com writes: I am currently in the process of typing the entire 3 volumes of Donald Lines Jacobus monumental 3 volume work "Families of Ancient New Haven" into my database to share online. When complete with my additions, I hope to add additionally correct lineages to the many incorrect ones currently posted online at WorldConnect/Ancestry. Margaret, a thousand thanks for doing this immense project! ~ Dori (a descendant of ancient New Haven families) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~partsch/index.htm

Well, I don't plan to laugh at anyone. Different people are at different points in their research and have different needs. Yes, when I was just beginning, a notebook computer was not necessary for my weekly trips to the library. Now that I have most of my basic lines finished to the best of my ability at this point in time, I am doing some single name studies for a few surnames, and doing lookups for others, particularly where I have resources at home or online resources I subscribe to. Everything I research goes in my main database which consists of 127,000 plus names of which at least 99% are hand entered/typed and NOT a collection of the gedcom files of others. I am currently in the process of typing the entire 3 volumes of Donald Lines Jacobus monumental 3 volume work "Families of Ancient New Haven" into my database to share online. When complete with my additions, I hope to add additionally correct lineages to the many incorrect ones currently posted online at WorldConnect/Ancestry. Finding those elusive ancestors often involves researching neighbors, surrounding communities, families of spouses, etc. If one keeps at this process long enough, the paper copies become unwieldy. Most of us who do this for a period of years have file cabinets full of papers almost impossible to organize in a way that makes the information readily accessible. If the names and explanatory material are entered into a computer database, when one reads a query online, it takes only a few seconds to determine if one has information they can provide to the questioner. And the online shared information sometimes results in people writing to offer something new! As a research strategy researching ONLY one's direct line can end up in years of frustration, where if one branched out, there is the possibility of finding the clues that lead to a solution. There are truly "brick wall" problems, but often the brick walls are because people lack research skills and resources. Genealogy is like one big giant jigsaw puzzle that provides ongoing challenges. The security of a laptop is really a non-issue. How many people have had their computers stolen from a library if the user takes reasonable precautions such as not going out to lunch and leaving it unattended for hours? Probably very few. When taking mine to a downtown library or other very public place I carry it in an ordinary book bag so as not to draw attention to the fact I may be carrying something valuable. If I am in a place where I believe security to be an issue, I have a lock that allows me to attach it to a chair or table. I have used it so infrequently, that I likely not used it in two years <g> Lack of a computer does not prevent one from doing good research, but it sure make the process easier. Except for the rank beginner, I highly recommend its use. A major advantage to a computer genealogy database is the ability to share with others. While computer generated reports have their drawbacks in terms of creativity and originality, they do make it easy to share with interested family and friends. One can easily share the sources for fact events making it easier for the recipient to recheck and continue the research. Should one pass on before completing their work, their work will live on where it has been shared. My goal is to determine our family's ancestry to the best of my ability and also to contribute to the pursuit of genealogy as a whole. Again if any newbies would like the research guidelines I created, please let me know and I will send them to you. They don't cover everything obviously, but they will get you started. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mabry Benson" <benson@acm.org> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Genealogy Research > Talk about how people have different approaches. > I laughed when Margaret Scheffler said she was so glad she had her laptop > along when she went out for research, because my attitude has always been > that I am glad I am NOT carrying around a lap top and having to worry > about its security. I print out Family Sheets with my information on them > for just the families I plan to research. They are compact and easy to > carry, and I doubt that anyone would want to take them. I also keep my > research notes on old fashioned paper. I could never be bothered to retype > them into the computer, and lots of the info probably wouldn't ever be > entered. So they are paper clipped to my info sheet, and I am ready to do > more digging. > Each to his own. > Mabry Benson > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

There is no doubt that the note book computer is one of the greatest tools to come along for genealogy, when used with some well written software for organizing and linking the pieces of information found. The automatic name lists and sort capabilities are extremely valuable to the researcher no matter what level they are at in experience. But for those that are just getting started, or with little PC experience, remember - remember to always make backup copies of your work on separate media, not all on one hard drive. Remember, there are only two kinds of hard drives on PCs----Those that have failed, and those that are going to fail. Dave -----Original Message----- From: MScheffler <mscheffl@twcny.rr.com> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 1 May 2006 17:20:24 -0400 Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Genealogy Research I would hope the list could tolerate several different approaches to helping someone get started with genealogy. No matter how clearly any of us write, we probably frequently don't ask the question clearly or answer questions as clearly as we might. And we have all just plain missed the point of the question at times. In my opinion starting a pedigree right within a computer program is probably the easiest way over trying to do it the old fashioned way with lots of papers that do nothing by overwhelm one after awhile. If someone is new and looking for a program, I recommend RootsMagic at www.rootsmagic.com One can download a demo and start right in to see how it works. Obviously the basic principles are the same whether one uses paper or computer for the record keeping. It's just that the computer helps us organized better. When I see people in the library with big notebooks, I am so thankful for my laptop computer which lets me take most everything I might need with me. About research strategies, I have a set of genealogy research guidelines. Anyone who would like them, please let me know and I will forward them on as an attachment. Margaret Scheffler

Talk about how people have different approaches. I laughed when Margaret Scheffler said she was so glad she had her laptop along when she went out for research, because my attitude has always been that I am glad I am NOT carrying around a lap top and having to worry about its security. I print out Family Sheets with my information on them for just the families I plan to research. They are compact and easy to carry, and I doubt that anyone would want to take them. I also keep my research notes on old fashioned paper. I could never be bothered to retype them into the computer, and lots of the info probably wouldn't ever be entered. So they are paper clipped to my info sheet, and I am ready to do more digging. Each to his own. Mabry Benson

I would hope the list could tolerate several different approaches to helping someone get started with genealogy. No matter how clearly any of us write, we probably frequently don't ask the question clearly or answer questions as clearly as we might. And we have all just plain missed the point of the question at times. In my opinion starting a pedigree right within a computer program is probably the easiest way over trying to do it the old fashioned way with lots of papers that do nothing by overwhelm one after awhile. If someone is new and looking for a program, I recommend RootsMagic at www.rootsmagic.com One can download a demo and start right in to see how it works. Obviously the basic principles are the same whether one uses paper or computer for the record keeping. It's just that the computer helps us organized better. When I see people in the library with big notebooks, I am so thankful for my laptop computer which lets me take most everything I might need with me. About research strategies, I have a set of genealogy research guidelines. Anyone who would like them, please let me know and I will forward them on as an attachment. Margaret Scheffler

On behalf of everyone, thank you for your polite reply. Liz Parmalee ----- Original Message ----- From: <PNUTREG@cs.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Researching the names Lester, Tanner, Charles Bennett, Steinbu... > Hi Linda > > Since Dave was unable to answer your question I thought I will start with > telling the correct procedure in Genealogy. First you need to fill out a > Pedigree Chart and document from Yourself, Your Parents, Your > Grandparents, Your G > Grandparents. Put down in Pencil (never use Ink until confirmed) > everything > that you know about your family and then seek documentation from Yourself > up to > the next generation. Use a separate Family Group Sheet for each family > (do not > combine them). By doing this you will not be getting off track and it will > also help you with the next generation. Unlike a book that reads from the > Past > to the Present you will be working from the Present to the Past. You are > #1 > generation. Your father's family is always on the top of the Pedigree > Chart and > your mother's family on the bottom. Always use the Maiden Surname for the > female ancestors. One should always use these work sheets while > researching > even if they have a computer program and then transcribe them onto your > program > sheets after you have confirmed them. . > > Here is a site put out by the FHC or LDS (Mormon) Church that will give > you > the guidelines for beginning. > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp > > Go To Research Guidance and click on: "How Do I Start" (Left Side) and > follow their guidelines. Do it one step at a time. Do not try to do too > much at > once. > > I suggest you go also to a FHC (Family History Center) near you and ask > for > their assistance. Call first to confirm their hours. There is no Charge > (only > when you start to order Microfilms or fiche with Information) and you can > learn the correct steps to starting. They have Volunteers usually with > experience > to aid you in the correct direction. Without doing this I have seen many > people spending several years checking the wrong Ancestor by not getting > proper > documentation to confirm their information. Depending on the Surname it is > not > unusual to find a number of people in each generation with the same first > name. > > Family Books can be helpful and it is great to use them, but do not expect > them to be totally correct. Some books are even termed Fraudulent and > there are > several authors to watch out for. Also, copying everything from the same > book is not a good way to be researching. Books are only 2ndary sources > (even if > approved) and one should always try to find the Primary source to support > it. > If you copy from a Book remember to also copy the Title page to show where > you got it. > > I am not sure where you live but it is helpful to join a Genealogy > Society. > They usually hold Beginning Workshops and Lectures to help you get started > and > then they will also have Intermediate and Advanced researcher workshops. > Most are at no cost (other than your membership) or at a small Fee only > for the > pass outs. > > Although the computer is great it is not a source for everything and nor > will > it be for all your approved copies of documentation. You will find copies > of > certain original documents you can use but not for everything nor on > everybody. Even so one must Broaden their Scope and read between the lines > especially > with Census records where information could have been given by a young > child > or neighbor making it incorrect. One must use the transcribed information > sources that they find as clue's only. If a source is given online go to > that > source and get copies for your work, if not you can contact the person and > ask if > they will tell you the source or how you can get a copy of the original. . > > Regards > Pat R > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

THANKS FOR NOTHING, I GAVE HER THE SHORT CUT, D ----- Original Message ----- From: PNUTREG@cs.com<mailto:PNUTREG@cs.com> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Researching the names Lester, Tanner, Charles Bennett, Steinbu... Hi Linda Since Dave was unable to answer your question I thought I will start with telling the correct procedure in Genealogy. First you need to fill out a Pedigree Chart and document from Yourself, Your Parents, Your Grandparents, Your G Grandparents. Put down in Pencil (never use Ink until confirmed) everything that you know about your family and then seek documentation from Yourself up to the next generation. Use a separate Family Group Sheet for each family (do not combine them). By doing this you will not be getting off track and it will also help you with the next generation. Unlike a book that reads from the Past to the Present you will be working from the Present to the Past. You are #1 generation. Your father's family is always on the top of the Pedigree Chart and your mother's family on the bottom. Always use the Maiden Surname for the female ancestors. One should always use these work sheets while researching even if they have a computer program and then transcribe them onto your program sheets after you have confirmed them. . Here is a site put out by the FHC or LDS (Mormon) Church that will give you the guidelines for beginning. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp<http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp> Go To Research Guidance and click on: "How Do I Start" (Left Side) and follow their guidelines. Do it one step at a time. Do not try to do too much at once. I suggest you go also to a FHC (Family History Center) near you and ask for their assistance. Call first to confirm their hours. There is no Charge (only when you start to order Microfilms or fiche with Information) and you can learn the correct steps to starting. They have Volunteers usually with experience to aid you in the correct direction. Without doing this I have seen many people spending several years checking the wrong Ancestor by not getting proper documentation to confirm their information. Depending on the Surname it is not unusual to find a number of people in each generation with the same first name. Family Books can be helpful and it is great to use them, but do not expect them to be totally correct. Some books are even termed Fraudulent and there are several authors to watch out for. Also, copying everything from the same book is not a good way to be researching. Books are only 2ndary sources (even if approved) and one should always try to find the Primary source to support it. If you copy from a Book remember to also copy the Title page to show where you got it. I am not sure where you live but it is helpful to join a Genealogy Society. They usually hold Beginning Workshops and Lectures to help you get started and then they will also have Intermediate and Advanced researcher workshops. Most are at no cost (other than your membership) or at a small Fee only for the pass outs. Although the computer is great it is not a source for everything and nor will it be for all your approved copies of documentation. You will find copies of certain original documents you can use but not for everything nor on everybody. Even so one must Broaden their Scope and read between the lines especially with Census records where information could have been given by a young child or neighbor making it incorrect. One must use the transcribed information sources that they find as clue's only. If a source is given online go to that source and get copies for your work, if not you can contact the person and ask if they will tell you the source or how you can get a copy of the original. . Regards Pat R ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com<http://www.nnygenealogy.com/> sagemarie98@earthlink.net<mailto:sagemarie98@earthlink.net> ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

Hi Linda Since Dave was unable to answer your question I thought I will start with telling the correct procedure in Genealogy. First you need to fill out a Pedigree Chart and document from Yourself, Your Parents, Your Grandparents, Your G Grandparents. Put down in Pencil (never use Ink until confirmed) everything that you know about your family and then seek documentation from Yourself up to the next generation. Use a separate Family Group Sheet for each family (do not combine them). By doing this you will not be getting off track and it will also help you with the next generation. Unlike a book that reads from the Past to the Present you will be working from the Present to the Past. You are #1 generation. Your father's family is always on the top of the Pedigree Chart and your mother's family on the bottom. Always use the Maiden Surname for the female ancestors. One should always use these work sheets while researching even if they have a computer program and then transcribe them onto your program sheets after you have confirmed them. . Here is a site put out by the FHC or LDS (Mormon) Church that will give you the guidelines for beginning. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Go To Research Guidance and click on: "How Do I Start" (Left Side) and follow their guidelines. Do it one step at a time. Do not try to do too much at once. I suggest you go also to a FHC (Family History Center) near you and ask for their assistance. Call first to confirm their hours. There is no Charge (only when you start to order Microfilms or fiche with Information) and you can learn the correct steps to starting. They have Volunteers usually with experience to aid you in the correct direction. Without doing this I have seen many people spending several years checking the wrong Ancestor by not getting proper documentation to confirm their information. Depending on the Surname it is not unusual to find a number of people in each generation with the same first name. Family Books can be helpful and it is great to use them, but do not expect them to be totally correct. Some books are even termed Fraudulent and there are several authors to watch out for. Also, copying everything from the same book is not a good way to be researching. Books are only 2ndary sources (even if approved) and one should always try to find the Primary source to support it. If you copy from a Book remember to also copy the Title page to show where you got it. I am not sure where you live but it is helpful to join a Genealogy Society. They usually hold Beginning Workshops and Lectures to help you get started and then they will also have Intermediate and Advanced researcher workshops. Most are at no cost (other than your membership) or at a small Fee only for the pass outs. Although the computer is great it is not a source for everything and nor will it be for all your approved copies of documentation. You will find copies of certain original documents you can use but not for everything nor on everybody. Even so one must Broaden their Scope and read between the lines especially with Census records where information could have been given by a young child or neighbor making it incorrect. One must use the transcribed information sources that they find as clue's only. If a source is given online go to that source and get copies for your work, if not you can contact the person and ask if they will tell you the source or how you can get a copy of the original. . Regards Pat R