I just added 30 more pages of Ogdensburg Methodist church baptism records. Some of these list exact birthdates of people born before 1850 - always a hard area to research. Also the full names of parents (although typically not the maiden name of mother). These are unindexed pdf images so have fun with the quirky handwriting. The images enlarge easily with the Adobe reader (free download if you don't already have it). If you think you had relatives living in Odgensburg in the 1840 to 1875 year range you may want to cruise through the records. Start at www.usgenweb.org, click 'New York' then click 'choose a county' and select St. Lawrence county. From the first county page use the 'select a link' drop down list and select 'church', then 'St. Lawrence County Church Records'. From that page you will see a link to the Ogdensburg images. If you have not visited the county page or if it's been a while *all* the links are worth checking as your time permits. New material is added often. If you are from the north country and see the phrase 'immersed in the Oswegatchie' a shiver might run through you as it did with me! If you have (or know someone who has) old church records that can be added to the site, please contact me. Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland

OK, I've located and printed all the census information - I've found a couple of George Wilson's (her husband) obituaries. Again, I want to thank all you kind folks for the information you've shared. George Wilson's obituary says that she was Mrs Margaret Enos (right birth date and place) when he married her. In other references the Otis name is used and not Enos. I'm not finding anything yet on her first marriage, her first husband's name or the death of her first husband. * Anyone have further information regarding the Enos connection? * She should be listed (age 24) in the 1870 US Census with her husband or as a widow (but maybe near Newark, Wayne Cy not in Oswego) if someone would be kind enough to give that a look. I can easily pull up an Oswego map from Google Maps - could someone tell me roughly where the first ward and third wards are? This is simple curiosity - next trip north I may have time to tour around.

The only 2 Newarks mentioned in French's Gazetteer are in Wayne County and Tioga County. Jenny ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Janet" <djrpublic@cfl.rr.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] re: Margaret Otis - again > She is "known" to have married George Wellington Wilson (the younger) of > Baldwinsville, NY in Newark, NY. The only Newark I can find is in Wayne > County which doesn't make a lot of sense to me at this point. Anyone know > of another Newark that's closer to B'ville and Oswego? > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

She is "known" to have married George Wellington Wilson (the younger) of Baldwinsville, NY in Newark, NY. The only Newark I can find is in Wayne County which doesn't make a lot of sense to me at this point. Anyone know of another Newark that's closer to B'ville and Oswego?

I too saw the cemetery walk listing and thought what a great idea. So I have vowed to get something started in my home area in Lysander, Onon. Co, It is so great to have groups bring back to life the looks of the old cemetery. I do not know who did the Snider Hill Cemetery in Cortland Co but it used to be totally neglected in an old cow pasture with trees and poison ivy growing yto cover the spot. A few years ago it was put back in order and what a great difference it was ! Thanks for giving others the encouragement to try what you started. Diane Titus -----Original Message----- From: Russell Sprague [mailto:russxsprague@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:42 AM To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Oswego Cemetery Walk From: Mary Lou Guindon <guindfam@yahoo.com> Reply-To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Re: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V06 #58 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 02:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Thank you Vera! What a wonderful compliment. This was our first time doing the cemetery walk. So we each had our own twist. But I think it went very well. We were so thankful to have such a beautiful day for it. I so much enjoyed talking about my family. Again thank you for taking to the time to share your experience. Here is what I wrote up for our newsletter "Pondering the Past." On a sunny Saturday afternoon, May 13th, the Dutch Hill Cemetery in Parish was the scene of the Parish Town Historical Society's first Cemetery Walk. For a brief period of time, a few of the early settlers of the Parish area were brought back to life. Approximately 30 people were given a transitory history of Parish in the 1800's of this Dutch community on the eastern side of Parish. Mrs. Edna Michael, adjoining property owner, placed American flags at the entrance with pride, just before the action took place. Geraniums were placed on the selected grave sites of those portrayed: Albert Comstock (Linda McNamara), Mariah Miller (Mary Lou Guindon), Elizabeth Orton and grand daughter Emma (Nancy Bookheimer and grand daughter Katherine Grace Alsworth), Annah Tisdale (Evelyn Stelmashuck), Phillip Fritts (Steve Stelmashuck) and also David Smith’s, as his verse was read at the closing. “Weep not for me though separated on earth we shall meet again in heaven.” The characters were dressed for the time period they were representing, along with canes, aprons, triangle dinner bell, and a plank bottom chair for props. The Town of Parish has been sprucing up the Dutch Hill Cemetery in anticipation of re-opening the cemetery to new gravesites available to the public in the near future. The details were accomplished earlier to enhance the Parish Town Historical Walk activity. An old fence was replaced, fallen trees and branches were cleared, and a drive/parking space were installed (more than the width of a horse and buggy). Dave Reader and members of the Parish Town Historical Society spent time in the Parish rural cemeteries a few years back cleaning and Reader repairing many of the broken gravestones. Many are in need of TLC once again. The Dutch Hill Cemetery provided a beautiful and peaceful setting for an afternoon of soliloquies from a different time gone by. A special thank you to the Parish Girl Scout Brownie Troop 296 for serving refreshments at the end of the tour. Mary Lou Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 22:45:46 EDT From: VRuddyoung@aol.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Parish Cemetery Walk A couple of weeks ago on this site, I saw mention of the first ever Cemetery Walk in the Parish, Dutch Hill Cemetery, and having never been on a cemetery walk, I felt I had to attend. Well, getting together two grandsons and making the two hour trip to Parish, I was just a teeny bit late. It was amazing, the minute I got back home, I started writing scripts for two of my ancestor's cemetery. It's actually very easy to create a fill in the blank kind of form. I am hoping that a couple of my grandsons will want to read on Memorial Day, and then for our family reunion this summer. Thanks to Parish Historical Society, it was a great experience. Vera Rudd In God we Trust Let there be Peace, Mary Lou 315.625.4575 www.syracuse.com/weblogs/parish http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Parish-Community-Recreation/ - ------------------------------- Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx ______________________________

I want to thank all of you for the very informative responses. You've helped me (us) a lot. BTW I'm class of '55 at Baldwinsville so you '56 folks shouldn't feel so bad when you count the candles at the reunion party this year!!!! ;-)

From: Mary Lou Guindon <guindfam@yahoo.com> Reply-To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Re: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V06 #58 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 02:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Thank you Vera! What a wonderful compliment. This was our first time doing the cemetery walk. So we each had our own twist. But I think it went very well. We were so thankful to have such a beautiful day for it. I so much enjoyed talking about my family. Again thank you for taking to the time to share your experience. Here is what I wrote up for our newsletter "Pondering the Past." On a sunny Saturday afternoon, May 13th, the Dutch Hill Cemetery in Parish was the scene of the Parish Town Historical Society's first Cemetery Walk. For a brief period of time, a few of the early settlers of the Parish area were brought back to life. Approximately 30 people were given a transitory history of Parish in the 1800's of this Dutch community on the eastern side of Parish. Mrs. Edna Michael, adjoining property owner, placed American flags at the entrance with pride, just before the action took place. Geraniums were placed on the selected grave sites of those portrayed: Albert Comstock (Linda McNamara), Mariah Miller (Mary Lou Guindon), Elizabeth Orton and grand daughter Emma (Nancy Bookheimer and grand daughter Katherine Grace Alsworth), Annah Tisdale (Evelyn Stelmashuck), Phillip Fritts (Steve Stelmashuck) and also David Smith’s, as his verse was read at the closing. “Weep not for me though separated on earth we shall meet again in heaven.” The characters were dressed for the time period they were representing, along with canes, aprons, triangle dinner bell, and a plank bottom chair for props. The Town of Parish has been sprucing up the Dutch Hill Cemetery in anticipation of re-opening the cemetery to new gravesites available to the public in the near future. The details were accomplished earlier to enhance the Parish Town Historical Walk activity. An old fence was replaced, fallen trees and branches were cleared, and a drive/parking space were installed (more than the width of a horse and buggy). Dave Reader and members of the Parish Town Historical Society spent time in the Parish rural cemeteries a few years back cleaning and Reader repairing many of the broken gravestones. Many are in need of TLC once again. The Dutch Hill Cemetery provided a beautiful and peaceful setting for an afternoon of soliloquies from a different time gone by. A special thank you to the Parish Girl Scout Brownie Troop 296 for serving refreshments at the end of the tour. Mary Lou Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 22:45:46 EDT From: VRuddyoung@aol.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Parish Cemetery Walk A couple of weeks ago on this site, I saw mention of the first ever Cemetery Walk in the Parish, Dutch Hill Cemetery, and having never been on a cemetery walk, I felt I had to attend. Well, getting together two grandsons and making the two hour trip to Parish, I was just a teeny bit late. It was amazing, the minute I got back home, I started writing scripts for two of my ancestor's cemetery. It's actually very easy to create a fill in the blank kind of form. I am hoping that a couple of my grandsons will want to read on Memorial Day, and then for our family reunion this summer. Thanks to Parish Historical Society, it was a great experience. Vera Rudd In God we Trust Let there be Peace, Mary Lou 315.625.4575 www.syracuse.com/weblogs/parish http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Parish-Community-Recreation/ --------------------------------- Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Just changing the subject line to match the query. Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland From: "Tom Peashey" <tompeashey@comcast.net> Reply-To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYOSWEGO] RE: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V06 #58 Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:29:23 -0700 As someone who was born and raised in Oswego, I don't have much direct information for you except that Otis was a very well known name in town. As a kid (50's) we would go watch Ringling brothers circus at "Otis Field" This area was located on the west side of town near what we called "The forks in the road". This was (and is) a 6 street intersection at the base of the hill from the college. The city park at Otis field was used for the location first of Frederick Leighton Elementary School and more recently the home of the new Oswego High School. Ironically, You're looking for info on Margaret Otis from the mid 19th century... From WWII (or before) till well into the 70's one of the main guidance counselors (later vice principle I think) at Oswego High School was Miss Otis... And I can't verify it right now but this old memory says her name was Margaret Elizabeth... She definitely never married because I can remember her insisting on being called "Miss Otis" -----Original Message----- From: NYOSWEGO-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NYOSWEGO-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:46 PM To: NYOSWEGO-D@rootsweb.com Subject: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V06 #58 ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

I am a graduate of Oswego High School class of 1956 (where have the 50 years gone?), We had a teacher named Elizabeth Otis that taught English I believe. She lived on West Fifth Street just a few homes up from Lake Ontario . She also had a sister that was a teacher I think but I cannot recall anymore about her. Miss Otis was a tall lady and very proper may be the word to express her. She was strict but nice. Hope this may help you some.

Not in Oswego, but in Fulton, Oswego County, New York (just few miles from Oswego) the principal of Phillips Street School was a Mr. Otis back in the 1940's. don't know if any relation but thought I'd add it to the mix. good luck in your search

Thank you Vera! What a wonderful compliment. This was our first time doing the cemetery walk. So we each had our own twist. But I think it went very well. We were so thankful to have such a beautiful day for it. I so much enjoyed talking about my family. Again thank you for taking to the time to share your experience. Here is what I wrote up for our newsletter "Pondering the Past." On a sunny Saturday afternoon, May 13th, the Dutch Hill Cemetery in Parish was the scene of the Parish Town Historical Society's first Cemetery Walk. For a brief period of time, a few of the early settlers of the Parish area were brought back to life. Approximately 30 people were given a transitory history of Parish in the 1800's of this Dutch community on the eastern side of Parish. Mrs. Edna Michael, adjoining property owner, placed American flags at the entrance with pride, just before the action took place. Geraniums were placed on the selected grave sites of those portrayed: Albert Comstock (Linda McNamara), Mariah Miller (Mary Lou Guindon), Elizabeth Orton and grand daughter Emma (Nancy Bookheimer and grand daughter Katherine Grace Alsworth), Annah Tisdale (Evelyn Stelmashuck), Phillip Fritts (Steve Stelmashuck) and also David Smith’s, as his verse was read at the closing. “Weep not for me though separated on earth we shall meet again in heaven.” The characters were dressed for the time period they were representing, along with canes, aprons, triangle dinner bell, and a plank bottom chair for props. The Town of Parish has been sprucing up the Dutch Hill Cemetery in anticipation of re-opening the cemetery to new gravesites available to the public in the near future. The details were accomplished earlier to enhance the Parish Town Historical Walk activity. An old fence was replaced, fallen trees and branches were cleared, and a drive/parking space were installed (more than the width of a horse and buggy). Dave Reader and members of the Parish Town Historical Society spent time in the Parish rural cemeteries a few years back cleaning and Reader repairing many of the broken gravestones. Many are in need of TLC once again. The Dutch Hill Cemetery provided a beautiful and peaceful setting for an afternoon of soliloquies from a different time gone by. A special thank you to the Parish Girl Scout Brownie Troop 296 for serving refreshments at the end of the tour. Mary Lou Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 22:45:46 EDT From: VRuddyoung@aol.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Parish Cemetery Walk A couple of weeks ago on this site, I saw mention of the first ever Cemetery Walk in the Parish, Dutch Hill Cemetery, and having never been on a cemetery walk, I felt I had to attend. Well, getting together two grandsons and making the two hour trip to Parish, I was just a teeny bit late. It was amazing, the minute I got back home, I started writing scripts for two of my ancestor's cemetery. It's actually very easy to create a fill in the blank kind of form. I am hoping that a couple of my grandsons will want to read on Memorial Day, and then for our family reunion this summer. Thanks to Parish Historical Society, it was a great experience. Vera Rudd In God we Trust Let there be Peace, Mary Lou 315.625.4575 www.syracuse.com/weblogs/parish http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Parish-Community-Recreation/ --------------------------------- Feel free to call! Free PC-to-PC calls. Low rates on PC-to-Phone. Get Yahoo! Messenger with Voice

A couple of weeks ago on this site, I saw mention of the first ever Cemetery Walk in the Parish, Dutch Hill Cemetery, and having never been on a cemetery walk, I felt I had to attend. Well, getting together two grandsons and making the two hour trip to Parish, I was just a teeny bit late. It was amazing, the minute I got back home, I started writing scripts for two of my ancestor's cemetery. It's actually very easy to create a fill in the blank kind of form. I am hoping that a couple of my grandsons will want to read on Memorial Day, and then for our family reunion this summer. Thanks to Parish Historical Society, it was a great experience. Vera Rudd

As someone who was born and raised in Oswego, I don't have much direct information for you except that Otis was a very well known name in town. As a kid (50's) we would go watch Ringling brothers circus at "Otis Field" This area was located on the west side of town near what we called "The forks in the road". This was (and is) a 6 street intersection at the base of the hill from the college. The city park at Otis field was used for the location first of Frederick Leighton Elementary School and more recently the home of the new Oswego High School. Ironically, You're looking for info on Margaret Otis from the mid 19th century... From WWII (or before) till well into the 70's one of the main guidance counselors (later vice principle I think) at Oswego High School was Miss Otis... And I can't verify it right now but this old memory says her name was Margaret Elizabeth... She definitely never married because I can remember her insisting on being called "Miss Otis" -----Original Message----- From: NYOSWEGO-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NYOSWEGO-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:46 PM To: NYOSWEGO-D@rootsweb.com Subject: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V06 #58

In a message dated 5/17/2006 10:14:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, djrpublic@cfl.rr.com writes: Margaret Elizabeth Otis b. Sep 1846 supposedly in Oswego, Oswego, NY m. George Wilson Nov 1873 supposedly Newark, (presently) Wayne Cy, NY d. Mar 1900 Baldwinsville, Onondaga, NY Father: James Otis (no further data) Mother: Anna (no further data) In 1850 they are in Oswego, Oswego Joseph 55 born Ireland, laborer, born Ireland Ann age 32, born England Geo age 14, born Canada Jane 14, born Canada James 12, born Canada Caroline 10, born Canada John 9, born NY Margaret 5, born NY Wm 3, born NY Medera age 2, born NY They are in Oswego, Oswego in 1860 James 64 from Ireland, carpenter Anne 44 from England George 24, seaman born NY Caroline 20, milliner born NY John 19, seaman born NY Madira 12 born NY Margaret 14 born NY Sarah E. 5 born NY Henry Edward in mo. looks like 1 mo. born NY In 1870 still in Oswego, Oswego but only James age 79, carpenter, from Ireland Ann age 52, from England Henry E. age 9 born NY Sheila, Clifton Park, NY

Seeking information regarding this Otis family: Margaret Elizabeth Otis b. Sep 1846 supposedly in Oswego, Oswego, NY m. George Wilson Nov 1873 supposedly Newark, (presently) Wayne Cy, NY d. Mar 1900 Baldwinsville, Onondaga, NY Father: James Otis (no further data) Mother: Anna (no further data)

I just completed uploading scanned images of marriage records from the Ogdensburg United Methodist Church at Caroline St., Ogdensburg, NY. There are 70 pages (mostly double pages where you need to scroll from one image to another). Barb Littlebrandt of Gouverneur did the great scanning job and numbered every third line to help people keep track of which record they are looking at when scrolling from one page to another. Start at www.usgenweb.org, click 'New York' then 'select a county' and select St. Lawrence county then use the drop down list 'select a link' and select 'church records'. You can save a direct link to that county page but I like to draw attention to the nationwide pages set up under the general umbrella of usgenweb. The pages read left to right but we could not figure out how to scan to pdf and keep the left to right orientation. If anyone reading this has done something similar or knows someone who has, please jump in on the message board and give out some hints and tips! I will be starting an idex to the pages in the near future. For now, enjoy the squiggly handwriting. Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland

About the missing 1890 census - New York State took a census in 1892. These are available on michrofilm from the FHL. If you are not near Salt Lake City - where you can see them for free; then you can order them from your nearest Family History Library for a small fee. Joyce in San Antonio, TX [ born in Syracuse, NY]

Greetings Oswego Listers, I've had a problem locating evidence of Edna Alice MEACHAM's birth for some time now and am looking for help. Edna was born of Willard (aka William) and Betsy (Brown) MEACHAM on 18 Sep 1845 in either Sandy Creek or Richland, NY. Page 521 of the 1850 Federal Census has them clearly from Richland. An older daughter, Mary Jane, was reportedly born in Sandy Creek in 1840. I find no land records for Willard in either town nor are they in either of the 1840 census. The family had come from Vermont. Betsy (Elizabeth) removed by letter from membership in the Poultney (VT) Congregational church in July 1842, so she probably became a member in a Sandy Creek or Richland congregation. Do those congregations still exist? If so, I'd appreciate a contact address and telephone number. Because of their relatively young ages while in New York, I have not pursued Probate Court records. Edna married my g-grandfather in Chicago and both her parents died there at 77 and 88 years. This is our last link in the line. Her lack of primary or good secondary documents is blocking recognition of four Rev. War patriots and a Mayflower decendent. Any help or guidance would be much appreciated. Hugh W. Busey

Sandy Creek Town & Village Historian Charlene Cole 1992 Harwood Ave. Sandy Creek, NY 13145 (315)387-5456 http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/towns/sandycreek/ I recently attended a talk about Town & Village Historians that Charlene Cole and Barbara Dix presented. (Barbara is the former Oswego County Historian and is currently the Town of Schroeppel Historian.) Anyone with Sandy Creek or Lacona Area questions should contact Charlene. She will let you know if she has the resources or if she thinks you should look somewhere else. She has been actively trying to organize and make available all the resources that they have. Hopefully this will help everyone with the Sandy Creek Area questions I have seen lately. Good luck Anne Ruggeri

In a message dated 5/8/2006 9:25:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, hbusey@att.net writes: Sandy Creek or Richland, NY. A call all the local libraries to ask if there is a local historian or history teacher or gen. club.or an old town clerk still in the area you can call. it worked for me near S C. WM