I continue to be amazed by the number of people who are so willing to bash Ancestry when it supplies so much excellent value for such a reasonable cost. Those of us who are seasoned researchers and who answer queries for others tend to find much information from Ancestry that we freely pass on to others. Those of us with limited opportunity to travel to research find it useful. I can understand people not having enough money to subscribe or have research needs Ancestry does not cover, but aside from financial constraints a few may have, I fail to see how good researchers could fail to see value in all the resources currently available online, with Ancestry being the best in my opinion.. Beginners might be advised to stick to research at one's local library and the free information available online until they learn a bit about how to research, but those having gone back a few generations and having New England ancestors, and wishing to progress will eventually need the resources offered by large libraries with genealogical collections or Ancestry as an adjunct and alternative. The every name indexing in the US census alone makes Ancestry well worth the cost in "my opinion". Only a few years ago, driving 4 hours each way to the Pittsfield, MA National Archives and having to deal without indexes for some census schedules had me yearning for the US census online. I feel so fortunate to have this readily accessible from my home online. Obviously I don't have to pay gas or lodging, reserve a microfilm reader and spend hours looking for things a search engine takes me to in a matter of seconds. I find so.... much of use in the census. So if one does not like Ancestry, feel free not to use it, but I would request that people pass on the truth. Half truths or absolute inaccuracies confuse the beginner. My guess is that those bashing it, have never really become acquainted with either basic library research or research using Ancestry. Nothing can entirely take the place of searching where your ancestors lived whether it be Oswego or Boston or wherever. Onsite and other avenues will always be needed, but Ancestry sure provides a good jumping off place for many families. As with any resource, one needs to learn what it offers and what it does not offer. One wonders why people would expect lookups for information on Ancestry, yet bash it....... One wonders why people pass on blatant inaccuracies.... Yes WorldConnect is FREE for everyone, and one can remove one's database should one choose. Rootsweb mailing lists and county Web pages are also free (provided by Ancestry). Margaret Scheffler

AMEN, Margaret. One other thing I might add...my gedcoms were uploaded at the Rootsweb site, where they can be accessed for free. They are also at Ancestry. Since I'm a subscribed member I don't know if these trees are still free at Ancestry, or if they are included in the "basic" subscription, but they used to be free when I first started online researching in 1998. I personally don't feel that Ancestry is "taking" our research and making it their own. We "give" it to the websites where it is then available to anyone with internet access. ----- Original Message ----- From: "MScheffler" <mscheffl@twcny.rr.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:42 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Value of library and Ancestry resources > I continue to be amazed by the number of people who are so willing to > bash > Ancestry when it supplies so much excellent value for such a reasonable > cost. Those of us who are seasoned researchers and who answer queries for > others tend to find much information from Ancestry that we freely pass on > to others. > > Those of us with limited opportunity to travel to research find it > useful. > > I can understand people not having enough money to subscribe or have > research needs Ancestry does not cover, but aside from financial > constraints a few may have, I fail to see how good researchers could fail > to see value in all the resources currently available online, with > Ancestry being the best in my opinion.. > > Beginners might be advised to stick to research at one's local library > and the free information available online until they learn a bit about > how to research, but those having gone back a few generations and having > New England ancestors, and wishing to progress will eventually need the > resources offered by large libraries with genealogical collections or > Ancestry as an adjunct and alternative. > > The every name indexing in the US census alone makes Ancestry well > worth the cost in "my opinion". Only a few years ago, driving 4 hours > each way to the Pittsfield, MA National Archives and having to deal > without indexes for some census schedules had me yearning for the US > census online. I feel so fortunate to have this readily accessible from > my home online. Obviously I don't have to pay gas or lodging, reserve a > microfilm reader and spend hours looking for things a search engine takes > me to in a matter of seconds. I find so.... much of use in the census. > > So if one does not like Ancestry, feel free not to use it, but I would > request that people pass on the truth. Half truths or absolute > inaccuracies confuse the beginner. My guess is that those bashing it, have > never really become acquainted with either basic library research or > research using Ancestry. Nothing can entirely take the place of searching > where your ancestors lived whether it be Oswego or Boston or wherever. > Onsite and other avenues will always be needed, but Ancestry sure provides > a good jumping off place for many families. As with any resource, one > needs to learn what it offers and what it does not offer. > > One wonders why people would expect lookups for information on > Ancestry, yet bash it....... One wonders why people pass on blatant > inaccuracies.... Yes WorldConnect is FREE for everyone, and one can > remove one's database should one choose. Rootsweb mailing lists and county > Web pages are also free (provided by Ancestry). > > Margaret Scheffler > > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I completely agree...they hijack your search pulling you off the web pages you are on and causing constant irritation to any researcher. The minute I see Ancestry I am gone. No matter what is used for enticement my personal rule is never to go to their websites. It was a sorry day that rootsweb took our info and gave it to them. Jess At 08:55 AM 6/27/2006, you wrote: >I won't use Ancestry's free areas as they always want a credit card.... why >I ask if it's free - ans - if you forget something like a timeframe - they >got cha... they'll do anything for a penny - even 'take your work then make >you pay to use their service... don't trust them. > >- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 6/28/2006

I feel the same way about Ancestry.com. They received a great deal of information from us about the LaRobardiere family for the other members of our family and now they charge them for the information. I will gladly share any information on the LaRobardiere, Belmor, Roy, Stevenson family that I have. I have some information on the extended members of these families. Hope I can help someone. Betty LaRobardiere > bettylarob@aol.com <

Reposting this request: As the date for this event approaches, I am still looking for further information as to when and where it will take place. Thanks for any help anyone can give. ********** The descendants of Asaph K. and Maria BRIGGS HILL have held an annual family reunion for over 100 years, usually in or around Oswego County, NY. I am a direct descendant of this family and would like to receive further information about plans for the 2006 reunion. Please contact me if you are in the know. Judy in Ocala

Marilyn, there are Ostranders in my line. My 3G GM was Jane Ostrander Worden, daughter of Abraham Ostrander and Rachel DePue. See further details at http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/r/i/Judith-S-Wright/GENE3-0005.html. Since that information was posted, I have learned that Jane had a brother John, and other siblings as well. If this is your family, please contact me. Judy in Ocala PS. I also have Dumas (pronounced DeMass, but spelled this way) by marriage. See http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/r/i/Judith-S-Wright/GENE3-0004.html On 6/27/06, MarilynJStern@aol.com (My Oswego and Cayuga County family names: Baggs, Buck, Demass/Dumas, Hamilton, Ostrander, Perkins, Stock, Upcraft, Van Vlack/Van Vleck)

Hello Russ, Thank you for helping with the Boolean question. I love the website and would read every word of it if I had time! Marilyn In a message dated 6/23/2006 6:13:55 AM Central Daylight Time, russxsprague@hotmail.com writes: At the Fulton site if you click on the 'Help FAQ' link, and scroll down quite a bit there is a nice section on Boolean search. FAQ is for 'Frequently Asked Questions'. I would not scroll down quickly though as there is quite a bit of useful info before you get to Boolean search. An example of Boolean search I found useful recently was 'Sprague w/5 married' and 'Sprague w/5 died' (use the words but not the quotes in your own searched. This means I want to find the word Sprague within 5 words of married or within 5 words of died. If I was searching for my own name I could search 'Sprague w/5 Russell'. Once you put the search term in use the drop down list to select 'Boolean' as the type of search. A hi speed connection can make a very nice difference. The site is images, not text and can be slow to load. Most public libraries will have pcs with hi speed connections. What you could do to become familiar with the way the search methods work is find something ahead of time on some page and then search for it using the different ways mentioned in the site help link. Hope this helps - Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland (My Oswego and Cayuga County family names: Baggs, Buck, Demass/Dumas, Hamilton, Ostrander, Perkins, Stock, Upcraft, Van Vlack/Van Vleck)

In a message dated 6/23/2006 4:20:57 PM Central Daylight Time, halylu@twcny.rr.com writes: To Marilyn S, With all the genealogy I have on my mind I don't know if I shared this or not but my cousin Hallie Sweeting knows all about the Demass line in Sterling. She is in this line. She is Sterling town historian.. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk Hi Marilyn, Yes, we've corresponded but not recently. I've met Hallie several times -- she is my second cousin once removed. I haven't seen her in several years, though -- not since way before her husband died. If you see her, please wish her well from me. Warm regards, Marilyn Hough Stern (My Oswego and Cayuga County family names: Baggs, Buck, Demass/Dumas, Hamilton, Ostrander, Perkins, Stock, Upcraft, Van Vlack/Van Vleck)

Dave, You haven't stirred things up. There are many of us who feel that way about Ancestry.com for exactly those reasons. I don't mind paying fees where value has been added but Ancestry, Family Tree Maker and that ilk like to take your genealogy work and publish it as is for a profit without even validating it. They put no effort into it other than that needed to convince newbys to turn over all their efforts "so it will be safe for future generations" (to buy CT's from them.) You have to be a subscriber to gain access to your own data. Genealogy has been and largely remains an altruistic, sharing endeavor. If I've discovered something that you can use, I'll glaqdly give it to you. Maybe you will have something useful to me in return but maybe not. That's ok. You're welcome to use mine free of charge. Years ago Rootsweb was started as a labor of love on exactly that premise. It was run on a shoestring and was almost entirely supported by free will donations from we working genealogists. It quickly grew to be the largest genealogy database in the world and was strained to keep up. Ancestry.com stepped in at a critical point with an infusion of capital and saved it from oblivion. Roostweb has changed some but to Ancestry's credit, many of its useful features remain active. But I still don't like how they do business. Hugh -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "rolaren" <rolaren@dreamscape.com> > I won't use Ancestry's free areas as they always want a credit card.... why > I ask if it's free - ans - if you forget something like a timeframe - they > got cha... they'll do anything for a penny - even 'take your work then make > you pay to use their service... don't trust them. > > -----Original Message----- > From: David and Janet [mailto:djrpublic@cfl.rr.com] > Sent: June 25, 2006 9:25 AM > To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: more Fulton Post Cards and an appology of sorts > > > For sure I didn't intend to in any way disparage the fine work that is > and has been done on that site! > > Its just that it requires Flash version 8 ONLY - the only site on the > web that I've visited that had that requirement! Adobe has not seen fit > to publish version 8 for any operating system other than Windoze. BTW > the current free Ancestry 1930 US Census is a Flash application from end > to end and it works just fine with my set-up. No I can't afford > Ancestry but free? That I can appreciate. > > > Sorry that I stirred up this mess - Dave >

I received this the other day----- Strangers helping strangers is what makes genealogy such a rewarding endeavor and shows kindness is not dead.. ----- Original Message ----- From: <hbusey@att.net> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] RE: more Fulton Post Cards and an apology of sorts > Dave, > > You haven't stirred things up. There are many of us who feel that way > about Ancestry.com for exactly those reasons. > > I don't mind paying fees where value has been added but Ancestry, Family > Tree Maker and that ilk like to take your genealogy work and publish it > as is for a profit without even validating it. They put no effort into it > other than that needed to convince newbys to turn over all their efforts > "so it will be safe for future generations" (to buy CT's from them.) You > have to be a subscriber to gain access to your own data. > > Genealogy has been and largely remains an altruistic, sharing endeavor. > If I've discovered something that you can use, I'll glaqdly give it to > you. > Maybe you will have something useful to me in return but maybe not. That's > ok. You're welcome to use mine free of charge. > > Years ago Rootsweb was started as a labor of love on exactly that premise. > It was run on a shoestring and was almost entirely supported by free will > donations from we working genealogists. It quickly grew to be the largest > genealogy database in the world and was strained to keep up. Ancestry.com > stepped in at a critical point with an infusion of capital and saved it > from oblivion. Roostweb has changed some but to Ancestry's credit, many > of its useful features remain active. But I still don't like how they > do business. > > Hugh > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "rolaren" <rolaren@dreamscape.com> >> I won't use Ancestry's free areas as they always want a credit card.... >> why >> I ask if it's free - ans - if you forget something like a timeframe - >> they >> got cha... they'll do anything for a penny - even 'take your work then >> make >> you pay to use their service... don't trust them. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David and Janet [mailto:djrpublic@cfl.rr.com] >> Sent: June 25, 2006 9:25 AM >> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: more Fulton Post Cards and an appology of sorts >> >> >> For sure I didn't intend to in any way disparage the fine work that is >> and has been done on that site! >> >> Its just that it requires Flash version 8 ONLY - the only site on the >> web that I've visited that had that requirement! Adobe has not seen fit >> to publish version 8 for any operating system other than Windoze. BTW >> the current free Ancestry 1930 US Census is a Flash application from end >> to end and it works just fine with my set-up. No I can't afford >> Ancestry but free? That I can appreciate. >> >> >> Sorry that I stirred up this mess - Dave >> > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/376 - Release Date: 6/26/2006 > >

If someone does not want to use any of ancestry's free service, one should avoid all of Rootsweb, the mailing lists, the WorldConnect database, the county web pages, the individual personal web pages provided free by Ancestry. A good share of the free information people are used to using is found on servers provided by Ancestry. Not everyone may be able to afford the full subscription, but for those who can, it is a wonderful service for those of us researching our families. I could not help nearly as many people as I do were it not for Ancestry. And, someone said this latest free offer did not require a credit card number. And ..... they do not take anyone's work -- the individual databases on WorldConnect can be withdrawn by an individual whenever they chose if they so choose. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: "rolaren" <rolaren@dreamscape.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> >I won't use Ancestry's free areas as they always want a credit card.... why > I ask if it's free - ans - if you forget something like a timeframe - they > got cha... they'll do anything for a penny - even 'take your work then > make > you pay to use their service... don't trust them.

I won't use Ancestry's free areas as they always want a credit card.... why I ask if it's free - ans - if you forget something like a timeframe - they got cha... they'll do anything for a penny - even 'take your work then make you pay to use their service... don't trust them. -----Original Message----- From: David and Janet [mailto:djrpublic@cfl.rr.com] Sent: June 25, 2006 9:25 AM To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: more Fulton Post Cards and an appology of sorts For sure I didn't intend to in any way disparage the fine work that is and has been done on that site! Its just that it requires Flash version 8 ONLY - the only site on the web that I've visited that had that requirement! Adobe has not seen fit to publish version 8 for any operating system other than Windoze. BTW the current free Ancestry 1930 US Census is a Flash application from end to end and it works just fine with my set-up. No I can't afford Ancestry but free? That I can appreciate. Sorry that I stirred up this mess - Dave

I was going to stay quiet on this issue, but do want to say that I have a subscription to the "basic" Ancestry databases, plus the censuses, and it is through these that I have been able to find so many of my own and my husband's ancestors, as well as helping countless others through the census lookups I do for strangers (some of whom have become wonderful email friends). Ancestry is not without its faults, and I do agree it seems expensive. However, if you compare the price of a subscription to the cost of ordering films from the Family History Centers, or traveling long distances to search actual documents, its a steal! ----- Original Message ----- From: "MScheffler" <mscheffl@twcny.rr.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Ancestry services > If someone does not want to use any of ancestry's free service, one > should avoid all of Rootsweb, the mailing lists, the WorldConnect > database, the county web pages, the individual personal web pages provided > free by Ancestry. A good share of the free information people are used to > using is found on servers provided by Ancestry. Not everyone may be able > to afford the full subscription, but for those who can, it is a > wonderful service for those of us researching our families. I could not > help nearly as many people as I do were it not for Ancestry. > > And, someone said this latest free offer did not require a credit card > number. And ..... they do not take anyone's work -- the individual > databases on WorldConnect can be withdrawn by an individual whenever they > chose if they so choose. > > Margaret Scheffler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rolaren" <rolaren@dreamscape.com> > To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> > >>I won't use Ancestry's free areas as they always want a credit card.... >>why >> I ask if it's free - ans - if you forget something like a timeframe - >> they >> got cha... they'll do anything for a penny - even 'take your work then >> make >> you pay to use their service... don't trust them. > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

For sure I didn't intend to in any way disparage the fine work that is and has been done on that site! Its just that it requires Flash version 8 ONLY - the only site on the web that I've visited that had that requirement! Adobe has not seen fit to publish version 8 for any operating system other than Windoze. BTW the current free Ancestry 1930 US Census is a Flash application from end to end and it works just fine with my set-up. No I can't afford Ancestry but free? That I can appreciate. Sorry that I stirred up this mess - Dave

FYI: I have AOL internet and when I pull up the Fulton, NY post cards, it automatically calls up Adobe. Carole in Anna Texas genealogy listing: Case, Brand, Ives, Keller, Rowlee, Osborn all in the Oswego County, area.

Or the guy could put up 1,675,000 pages using any operating system he wants. Then, of course, he wouldn't have anything to whine about. Fred Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: <GrlsWthGuitars@aol.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Re: Fulton Post Cards -- Fulton History website question > > > In a message dated 6/24/2006 6:19:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > djrpublic@cfl.rr.com writes: > > Too bad one can't access www.fultonhistory.com using any other operating > system than Windoze - it's the only one that supports the Flash Player > version that the site requires. Even Ancestry isn't that slavish to > Microsoft! > > Dave Rowell - Using Gramps genealogy program on Ubuntu Linux and PAF5.2 > on Wine > > > Boy, I think it's pretty nervy to complain about a wealth of FREE > information being provided for a vast number of geneaogists and historians. You could > always go use a computer at your local library. > > With the kind of money Ancestry charges, they can afford lots of bells and > whistles. > > Kathi > IBSSG > New York - Thompson/Crane/Bramm/Fleischer > Wisconsin - Meissner/Steng/Diem/Zeininger > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

I've seen a few gripes about the Flash business but it is quite a resource for being volunteer run. If you don't have windows and don't want it, your local public library probably has a hi speed connection and you could use their machine. Some public libraries also have subscriptions to ancestry.com and/or HeritageQuest.com for library patrons. If the library has that and if you have a valid library card you can use those resources on line from home. From: David and Janet <djrpublic@cfl.rr.com> Reply-To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Re: Fulton Post Cards -- Fulton History website question Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:18:13 -0400 Too bad one can't access www.fultonhistory.com using any other operating system than Windoze - it's the only one that supports the Flash Player version that the site requires. Even Ancestry isn't that slavish to Microsoft! Dave Rowell - Using Gramps genealogy program on Ubuntu Linux and PAF5.2 on Wine > >----- Original Message ----- From: <MarilynJStern@aol.com> >To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:13 PM >Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Fulton Post Cards -- Fulton History website question > > >>Greetings Oswego & Vicinity researchers: >> >>Recently I've been having a wonderful time finding great family history >>information at the Fulton Post Cards -- Fulton History website -- >>www.fultonhistory.com. And, if we haven't already, we sure need to thank >>Mr. Tryniski for >>taking the time to create it. ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

In a message dated 6/24/2006 6:19:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, djrpublic@cfl.rr.com writes: Too bad one can't access www.fultonhistory.com using any other operating system than Windoze - it's the only one that supports the Flash Player version that the site requires. Even Ancestry isn't that slavish to Microsoft! Dave Rowell - Using Gramps genealogy program on Ubuntu Linux and PAF5.2 on Wine Boy, I think it's pretty nervy to complain about a wealth of FREE information being provided for a vast number of geneaogists and historians. You could always go use a computer at your local library. With the kind of money Ancestry charges, they can afford lots of bells and whistles. Kathi IBSSG New York - Thompson/Crane/Bramm/Fleischer Wisconsin - Meissner/Steng/Diem/Zeininger

Too bad one can't access www.fultonhistory.com using any other operating system than Windoze - it's the only one that supports the Flash Player version that the site requires. Even Ancestry isn't that slavish to Microsoft! Dave Rowell - Using Gramps genealogy program on Ubuntu Linux and PAF5.2 on Wine > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <MarilynJStern@aol.com> > To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:13 PM > Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Fulton Post Cards -- Fulton History website question > > >> Greetings Oswego & Vicinity researchers: >> >> Recently I've been having a wonderful time finding great family history >> information at the Fulton Post Cards -- Fulton History website -- >> www.fultonhistory.com. And, if we haven't already, we sure need to >> thank Mr. Tryniski for >> taking the time to create it.

To Marilyn S, With all the genealogy I have on my mind I don't know if I shared this or not but my cousin Hallie Sweeting knows all about the Demass line in Sterling. She is in this line. She is Sterling town historian.. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk ----- Original Message ----- From: <MarilynJStern@aol.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:13 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Fulton Post Cards -- Fulton History website question > Greetings Oswego & Vicinity researchers: > > Recently I've been having a wonderful time finding great family history > information at the Fulton Post Cards -- Fulton History website -- > www.fultonhistory.com. And, if we haven't already, we sure need to thank > Mr. Tryniski for > taking the time to create it. > > What I have been looking at are the various newspaper articles that have > been > scanned. I've used this website before but now that I have a faster > internet > connection, it is much more user friendly. > > I have a vague memory of someone -- perhaps Russ Sprague -- taking the > time > to write some helpful hints to best utililize this free site. However, > my > vague memory is just that -- vague. And my knowledge of what selecting > "boolean" > will do for me when I'm searching is nonexistent. > > So, if anyone has some helpful hints, would you please share them? If > this > is a subject that has already been covered recently, please just let me > know. > Thank you! > > Warm regards from a warm Austin, TX, > Marilyn Hough Stern > > (My Oswego and Cayuga County family names: Baggs, Buck, Demass/Dumas, > Hamilton, Ostrander, Perkins, Stock, Upcraft, Van Vlack/Van Vleck) > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >