Hello Judy, My 3G GM was Elizabeth OSTRANDER VAN VLECK so we are 5th cousins -- what fun! Elizabeth was the sister of your Jane. She was married to Gilbert VAN VLECK. I have a bit more on the Ostranders as well as Rachel's death date. If no one else on the list is interested in these names, I'll email you directly. Warm regards from Marilyn Stern in a warm Austin, TX In a message dated 6/27/2006 7:16:30 PM Central Daylight Time, treewright@gmail.com writes: Marilyn, there are Ostranders in my line. My 3G GM was Jane Ostrander Worden, daughter of Abraham Ostrander and Rachel DePue. See further details at http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/r/i/Judith-S-Wright/GENE3-0005.ht ml. Since that information was posted, I have learned that Jane had a brother John, and other siblings as well. If this is your family, please contact me. Judy in Ocala PS. I also have Dumas (pronounced DeMass, but spelled this way) by marriage. See http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/r/i/Judith-S-Wright/GENE3-0004.ht ml (My Oswego and Cayuga County family names: Baggs, Buck, Demass/Dumas, Hamilton, Ostrander, Perkins, Stock, Upcraft, Van Vlack/Van Vleck)

I have a John Minahan married to a Mary Donovan who immigrated to the United States after the birth of at least one of their children, my gggrandmother Johanna who was born in Jun 1842. They came from Irish Free State. I do know that Johanna had at least one brother John. Johanna married a Peter Enwright (Enright) and they had 5 children, Bridget 1865-, Mary Agnes 1869-1917, James H. 1870-1947, Katherine 1871-1964, Sara 1874-. It sounds like your generation that you are talking about would be the generation of my ggrandmother Katherine Enright Murray. The men you are talking about were probably either brothers or cousins to Johanna. I lost a lot of my genealogy when my computer crashed and am working from my written copies to put them all back in. Keep in touch and as I work on the Minahan's I am sure I can help you. I have at least two more generations then you do. Nancy email: nbhelldorfer@yahoo.com NYOSWEGO-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: NYOSWEGO-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 88 Today's Topics: #1 Query - Minahan, Ross ["John Fladd" #2 Minahan, Ross ["Russell Sprague" #3 Re: [NYOSWEGO] Query - Minahan, Ro [Wawebft@aol.com] #4 Pittsburgh Conference Reminder ["Amy E. K. Arner" Administrivia: To unsubscribe from NYOSWEGO-D, send a message to NYOSWEGO-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the administrator of this mailing list, send mail to NYOSWEGO-admin@rootsweb.com List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ______________________________Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:06:16 -0400 From: "John Fladd" <johnfladd@hotmail.com> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Query - Minahan, Ross I'm looking for information about any of two sets of brothers who lived in Oswego in the first part of the 20th century: Minahan - There were at least four brothers - George (b.1876), Mike (1875-1957), John (1873-1939) and Albert (1882-1956). I'm decended from George and aside from the 1910 Federal census, I haven't found anything about him. I've found WW1 draft registrations for the others as well as their death notices. George (my great-grandfather) apparently died in the 1918 influenza epidemic, so any information on Oswego during that period would be helpful too. Ross - Two of the Ross brothers came up from Kentucky at the turn of the century and got into the shadier side of boxing. They eventually brought their sister Lillian (my great-grandmother) up to keep house for them and their little brother Joe to do some fighting. I'd love any information about any of the brothers - Wirt (b.1883), Ernest or Joe. Thanks ______________________________Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:30:43 +0000 From: "Russell Sprague" <russxsprague@hotmail.com> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Minahan, Ross You might try these two sites where you can search old papers online: http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html and http://news.nnyln.net/ They can take a while to load images even if you have a hi speed connection. Hope this helps - Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland From: "John Fladd" Reply-To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Query - Minahan, Ross Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:06:16 -0400 I'm looking for information about any of two sets of brothers who lived in Oswego in the first part of the 20th century: Minahan - There were at least four brothers - George (b.1876), Mike (1875-1957), John (1873-1939) and Albert (1882-1956). I'm decended from George and aside from the 1910 Federal census, I haven't found anything about him. I've found WW1 draft registrations for the others as well as their death notices. George (my great-grandfather) apparently died in the 1918 influenza epidemic, so any information on Oswego during that period would be helpful too. Ross - Two of the Ross brothers came up from Kentucky at the turn of the century and got into the shadier side of boxing. They eventually brought their sister Lillian (my great-grandmother) up to keep house for them and their little brother Joe to do some fighting. I'd love any information about any of the brothers - Wirt (b.1883), Ernest or Joe. Thanks ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ______________________________Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:51:26 EDT From: Wawebft@aol.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Query - Minahan, Ross In a message dated 6/30/2006 8:07:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, johnfladd@hotmail.com writes: I'm looking for information about any of two sets of brothers who lived in Oswego in the first part of the 20th century: Have you tried the Fulton newspaper website? Many articles on Minahan's and Ross'. One large article on "Kid Ross" the fighter, brother of Wirt. _http://www.fultonhistory.com/_ (http://www.fultonhistory.com/) ______________________________Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:28:07 -0400 From: "Amy E. K. Arner" <amy@arnerresearch.com> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Pittsburgh Conference Reminder "Roots in the Boot," an Italian Genealogy and Heritage Conference, is only two weeks away! There is still time to register! Walk-in registrations are welcome, but registrants before July 10 are assured a syllabus containing all of the handouts. The conference will be held on the University of Pittsburgh campus in Pittsburgh, PA on 14-15 July 2006. The exciting program has Dr. John Philip Colletta as the featured speaker. Additional speakers include June DeLalio, CG; Paola Manfredi, AG; Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL; Elissa Scalise Powell, CG; Keith Rose, AG; and Megan Smolenyak Smolenyak. A full list of speakers and their topics is available at www.rootsintheboot.org as well as optional ticket events. You don't have to be Italian to attend, just interested in the topics presented. Lecture topics include DNA, Italian research and heritage, how to do genealogy, how to access records (including Catholic Church records), preserving family heirlooms, writing a family history, and evaluating sources on the Internet. Please feel free to pass this message on. Best regards, Amy Arner Conference Committee Member --------------------------------- Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.

Safford Reunion The second reunion of the Safford desendents was held Sunday, August 21, at Kasoag Lakes Park. The day being fine there was a good attendance, fifty being present. The dinner found a long table of happy diners. Those present were Mr. and Mrs. Charles ROACH of Mexico; Mr. and Mrs. HELMER of Herkimer with their daughter Dora Roberts of Dolgevill, N.Y., and Mrs. HELMER'S sister Miss Eva LOOMIS of Little Falls; Mrs. Emma PETTINGIL, Mr. and Mrs. Earl HILL, Mr. Walter LOOMIS of Fulton; Miss. Therza PETTINGIL of Mexico., N.Y. From Pulaski and vicinity: Mr. and Mrs. Clayton INGERALSOLL, Mr and Mrs. William MONTONDO, Mr. and Mrs. Percy INGERSOLL, Carrie ROACH, Walter HOLCOME and family, of Altmar; Mr. Roy MONTANA and family and Mrs. Kate JOHNSON of Pineville. Boating, bathing and visiting was the order of the day. The family are to bear in mind that they are again to pack their lunch and sally forth again a year from now the second Sunday in August at the same meeting place. Safford Reunion With some some maiden names added. The second reunion of the Safford desendents was held Sunday, August 21, at Kasoag Lakes Park. The day being fine there was a good attendance, fifty being present. The dinner found a long table of happy diners. Those present were Mr. and Mrs. Charles ROACH of Mexico; Mr. and Mrs.(Lucy LOOMIS) HELMER of Herkimer with their daughter Dora (HELMER) Roberts of Dolgevill, N.Y., and Mrs. HELMER'S sister Miss Eva LOOMIS of Little Falls; Mrs. Emma PETTINGIL, Mr. and Mrs. Earl HILL, Mr. Walter LOOMIS of Fulton; Miss Therza PETTINGIL of Mexico., N.Y. From Pulaski and vicinity: Mr. and Mrs. Clayton INGERSOLL, Mr and Mrs. William MONTONDO, Mr. and Mrs. Percy INGERSOLL, Carrie(Catherine MORE) ROACH, Walter HOLCOME and family, of Altmar; Mr. Roy MONTANA and family and Mrs. Kate JOHNSON of Pineville. Boating, bathing and visiting was the order of the day. The family are to bear in mind that they are again to pack their lunch and sally forth again a year from now the second Sunday in August at the same meeting place.

The Dillabaugh familly are descendants of the Dallenbach family who settled in Stone Arabia,NY.After the French & Indian War.Some of the descendants became Dillenbecks and some took the spelling Dillabough. Doug Groner

1900 Census Oswego, Oswego County, NY Charles Dillabough head born 5/1864 Myra wife born 2/1860 James T son born 6/1886 Addie daughter born 11/1890 Ruth E daughter born 6/1892 ----- Original Message ----- From: <RBGOLFCLUB@aol.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Dillabaugh Family > Does anyone have information on the Charles Dillabaugh Family. I am > looking > for info on his daughter Ruth and her marriages. Charles is the son of > Peter > Dillabaugh of Hannibal. Thanks in advance for any and all help. Russ > Miller > _RBGolfclub@Aol.com_ (mailto:RBGolfclub@Aol.com) > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Give me an idea of birthdates or something more to go on. There is about 4 Charles Dillabaugh's in Oswego County. I will look on Ancestry if you have more info. B. King ----- Original Message ----- From: <RBGOLFCLUB@aol.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Dillabaugh Family > Does anyone have information on the Charles Dillabaugh Family. I am > looking > for info on his daughter Ruth and her marriages. Charles is the son of > Peter > Dillabaugh of Hannibal. Thanks in advance for any and all help. Russ > Miller > _RBGolfclub@Aol.com_ (mailto:RBGolfclub@Aol.com) > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Does anyone have information on the Charles Dillabaugh Family. I am looking for info on his daughter Ruth and her marriages. Charles is the son of Peter Dillabaugh of Hannibal. Thanks in advance for any and all help. Russ Miller _RBGolfclub@Aol.com_ (mailto:RBGolfclub@Aol.com)

Hi, I know..the thread has gone on much too long, but I never saw the correct version of how these services are connected and the "taking of our work and selling it to others" is connected to what company. MyFamily.com, Inc. is the owner of many of the genealogy sites that we use. A home page for them: http://www.myfamilyinc.com/default.aspx They own Ancestry-RootsWeb and Genealogy.com. Genealogy.com has message boards a subscription library etc. They are the site that original sells FTM-Family Tree Maker. When someone using FTM reaches a certain number FTM says want to share your info upload it here. Then it sold as World Family Trees- Either by disc or you can subscribe at their site and access it on line only, no disc. RootsWeb was Free Web site dedicated to helping people connect with their genealogy. It was financed by Donations. List were created by people who paid RootsWeb money to have the surname list they wanted formed. They ran "their" list and since they paid for it and ran it were called List Owners. At some point people quit being required to pay for their lists as advertising started bringing in more revenues etc. The site grew etc and then Ancestry brought out the owners of RootsWeb...I leave out what I know of the details because I know I'll mess up somewhere. Part of the deal was keeping RootsWeb free I believe. Anyway, the World Connect and the Ancestry Message boards merged. Both are free on both sites. Next thing we hear is that Ancestry-now going by the corporate name MyFamily.com buys Genealogy.com. Thus they became the owners of FTM and the web site. They do keep those two sites fairly separate I think. The World Family Trees subscription is sold/accessed only on the Genealogy.com site. You can NOT access it at all from Ancestry's site at ALL. Ancestry buys the information it sells. Thank you for your time. Except I would like to add that I am grateful that Ancestry did buy RootsWeb and it remains free for us to use. RootsWeb would probably have had to start charging us by now if they had not. RootsWeb works with a staff of less than the fingers on one hand. They are amazing people. They couldn't do it alone without the admins who help manage the Lists and the Boards....but all in all they are amazing! margy Any errors in this message are my own fault for writing off the top of head and not researching every word first but going from memory.

"Roots in the Boot," an Italian Genealogy and Heritage Conference, is only two weeks away! There is still time to register! Walk-in registrations are welcome, but registrants before July 10 are assured a syllabus containing all of the handouts. The conference will be held on the University of Pittsburgh campus in Pittsburgh, PA on 14-15 July 2006. The exciting program has Dr. John Philip Colletta as the featured speaker. Additional speakers include June DeLalio, CG; Paola Manfredi, AG; Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL; Elissa Scalise Powell, CG; Keith Rose, AG; and Megan Smolenyak Smolenyak. A full list of speakers and their topics is available at www.rootsintheboot.org as well as optional ticket events. You don't have to be Italian to attend, just interested in the topics presented. Lecture topics include DNA, Italian research and heritage, how to do genealogy, how to access records (including Catholic Church records), preserving family heirlooms, writing a family history, and evaluating sources on the Internet. Please feel free to pass this message on. Best regards, Amy Arner Conference Committee Member

You might try these two sites where you can search old papers online: http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html and http://news.nnyln.net/ They can take a while to load images even if you have a hi speed connection. Hope this helps - Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland From: "John Fladd" <johnfladd@hotmail.com> Reply-To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Query - Minahan, Ross Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:06:16 -0400 I'm looking for information about any of two sets of brothers who lived in Oswego in the first part of the 20th century: Minahan - There were at least four brothers - George (b.1876), Mike (1875-1957), John (1873-1939) and Albert (1882-1956). I'm decended from George and aside from the 1910 Federal census, I haven't found anything about him. I've found WW1 draft registrations for the others as well as their death notices. George (my great-grandfather) apparently died in the 1918 influenza epidemic, so any information on Oswego during that period would be helpful too. Ross - Two of the Ross brothers came up from Kentucky at the turn of the century and got into the shadier side of boxing. They eventually brought their sister Lillian (my great-grandmother) up to keep house for them and their little brother Joe to do some fighting. I'd love any information about any of the brothers - Wirt (b.1883), Ernest or Joe. Thanks ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

In a message dated 6/30/2006 8:07:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, johnfladd@hotmail.com writes: I'm looking for information about any of two sets of brothers who lived in Oswego in the first part of the 20th century: Have you tried the Fulton newspaper website? Many articles on Minahan's and Ross'. One large article on "Kid Ross" the fighter, brother of Wirt. _http://www.fultonhistory.com/_ (http://www.fultonhistory.com/)

I'm looking for information about any of two sets of brothers who lived in Oswego in the first part of the 20th century: Minahan - There were at least four brothers - George (b.1876), Mike (1875-1957), John (1873-1939) and Albert (1882-1956). I'm decended from George and aside from the 1910 Federal census, I haven't found anything about him. I've found WW1 draft registrations for the others as well as their death notices. George (my great-grandfather) apparently died in the 1918 influenza epidemic, so any information on Oswego during that period would be helpful too. Ross - Two of the Ross brothers came up from Kentucky at the turn of the century and got into the shadier side of boxing. They eventually brought their sister Lillian (my great-grandmother) up to keep house for them and their little brother Joe to do some fighting. I'd love any information about any of the brothers - Wirt (b.1883), Ernest or Joe. Thanks

As a librarian, I can verify that most public libraries do offer this program for free. Also I am one of the ones that do not pay for Ancestry.com. It is not because I do not want to pay for it, but because I cannot pay for it. Not everyone has the type of job to make enough money to buy whatever they want. So please, do not put everyone who does not have Ancestry.com in the same category as not wanting to pay for the access. Peggy Y. Phillips <mailto:pypnap@wideopenwest.com> pypnap@wideopenwest.com (main) <mailto:yeahcamp91@yahoo.com> yeahcamp91@yahoo.com (secondary) IMs AOL -- yeahcamp MSN -- <mailto:pypnap@wideopenewest.com> pypnap@wideopenewest.com YAHOO -- yeahcamp91 _____ From: NYOSWEGO-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NYOSWEGO-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:00 PM To: NYOSWEGO-D@rootsweb.com Subject: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V06 #86

I am trying to find the family that had children, Louisa, Sarah and a son, letter M. that was supposedly in Oswego during the 1820s. Louisa was my GG-GM and her obit from Wood Co., OH says she was born in Hannibal, Oswego Co., NY in 1823. Can anyone look for the heads of Palmer families for the 1820 & 1830 census reports. I would think there were not very many Palmer families at that time period. Thanks so much. Sue in CA

Hello, Tracy, I have Thorps in my line, also from Oswego County. See http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/w/r/i/Judith-S-Wright/GENE3-0006.html for a sketch of the information I have on this family. Click on 25 next to the name Sarah Maria Thorp to see her descendants. Surnames in all caps are my direct ancestors. Please contact me if this is your line also. Judy in Ocala On 6/29/06, Tracy Howard <THoward@echd.org> wrote: > > I second that "Amen" to you! I love using Ancestry. I live in Texas, > yet all of my ancestors are in New England, MN, IL and CA. I also work > full time. No way would I be able to follow my passion of genealogy > without the online abilities we now have. > > Surnames in Oswego Co.: Brooks, Thorp, Winn > > Tracy Howard

Ancestry's value at work here. :-) 1820 has 2 Palmers in Oswego Co. and they both are listed on the same page. The page is not in alphabetical order, so this tells me they lived near each other. Denison B. Palmer 1 male under 10 1 male 16-2 1 male 26-44 1 female 26-45 2 persons engaged in commerce Stutely Palmer 2 males under 10 1 male 16-25 (this looks like it was crossed out) 1 male 26-44 1 female under 10 2 females 10-15 1 females 16-26 1 female 26-45 2 persons engaged in commerce In 1830 there were 9 Palmer families. If you would like me to transcribe for you, let me know: Jno D living in Constantia Alford living in Granby Crisner living in Granby Elias living in Mexico Eliott B living in Mexico Nathan L living in Mexico Luther living in Oswego Orlando living in Oswego Samuel living in Scriba Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: <SUEMEINHRT@aol.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:45 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Palmers in Oswego Co., NY >I am trying to find the family that had children, Louisa, Sarah and a son, > letter M. that was supposedly in Oswego during the 1820s. Louisa was my > GG-GM > and her obit from Wood Co., OH says she was born in Hannibal, Oswego Co., > NY > in 1823. Can anyone look for the heads of Palmer families for the 1820 > & > 1830 census reports. I would think there were not very many Palmer > families > at that time period. Thanks so much. > > Sue in CA > > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

I second that "Amen" to you! I love using Ancestry. I live in Texas, yet all of my ancestors are in New England, MN, IL and CA. I also work full time. No way would I be able to follow my passion of genealogy without the online abilities we now have. Surnames in Oswego Co.: Brooks, Thorp, Winn Tracy Howard -----Original Message----- From: MScheffler [mailto:mscheffl@twcny.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 AM To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Value of library and Ancestry resources I continue to be amazed by the number of people who are so willing to bash Ancestry when it supplies so much excellent value for such a reasonable cost. Those of us who are seasoned researchers and who answer queries for others tend to find much information from Ancestry that we freely pass on to others. Those of us with limited opportunity to travel to research find it useful. I can understand people not having enough money to subscribe or have research needs Ancestry does not cover, but aside from financial constraints a few may have, I fail to see how good researchers could fail to see value in all the resources currently available online, with Ancestry being the best in my opinion.. Beginners might be advised to stick to research at one's local library and the free information available online until they learn a bit about how to research, but those having gone back a few generations and having New England ancestors, and wishing to progress will eventually need the resources offered by large libraries with genealogical collections or Ancestry as an adjunct and alternative. The every name indexing in the US census alone makes Ancestry well worth the cost in "my opinion". Only a few years ago, driving 4 hours each way to the Pittsfield, MA National Archives and having to deal without indexes for some census schedules had me yearning for the US census online. I feel so fortunate to have this readily accessible from my home online. Obviously I don't have to pay gas or lodging, reserve a microfilm reader and spend hours looking for things a search engine takes me to in a matter of seconds. I find so.... much of use in the census. So if one does not like Ancestry, feel free not to use it, but I would request that people pass on the truth. Half truths or absolute inaccuracies confuse the beginner. My guess is that those bashing it, have never really become acquainted with either basic library research or research using Ancestry. Nothing can entirely take the place of searching where your ancestors lived whether it be Oswego or Boston or wherever. Onsite and other avenues will always be needed, but Ancestry sure provides a good jumping off place for many families. As with any resource, one needs to learn what it offers and what it does not offer. One wonders why people would expect lookups for information on Ancestry, yet bash it....... One wonders why people pass on blatant inaccuracies.... Yes WorldConnect is FREE for everyone, and one can remove one's database should one choose. Rootsweb mailing lists and county Web pages are also free (provided by Ancestry). Margaret Scheffler ______________________________

Just got a fresh set of indexed names from volunteer Dave Payne. The number of indexed names is now over 3,000 (up from about 1700) and this is just a fraction of the total. This is a work in progress. You may want to visit perodically until it is complete. There is a combination of un-indexed pdf page images and a clickable name index that will display the page where a name is found. Start at www.usgenweb.org, click 'New York' then 'choose a county' and select St. Lawrence county. From the drop down list at 'select a link', choose 'church records'. Note that the huge amount of material by Anne Cady (cemetery, census and much more) is also linked to this county site plus donated material by many other volunteers. Every link there is worth checking as your time permits. Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland

I happen to be one of those whose pay for Ancestry.com and think it is worth every penny - But for those of you who for any reason do not want to pay - You can have free access at any Family History Library, and the one nearest me only charges a nickel per page for the ones I want to print. I understand that many public libraries also offer this service at no charge. The only inconvenience is that you have to go to the library. For me, at home access is worth the price. Happy Hunting, Joyce in San Antonio. TX

I use ancestry without being a member.My library has both Ancestry and Heritage Quest which it makes available to members at no cost,I also use Ancestry free of charge at my local LDS family history center. It was actually a free two week trial membership on Ancestry that got me started on researching my family history.This search has given me many enjoyable hours solving the various puzzles presented by various brickwalls. Doug Groner