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    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] Obituary from Fulton
    2. I worked with Dottie at the telephone company. She was a wonderful person and I always enjoyed her sense of humor and her talking about her home. We used to have lunch together and had many conversations re her home. I am sorry for you loss as Dottie was a very special person. Donna Jones

    07/13/2006 02:48:22
    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] Obituary from Fulton
    2. NANCY J. CURRAN
    3. Hello, Donna, Thanks for telling me of your acquaintance with Dottie. I always think of her smiling as she made some clever remark. Nancy NanaPopJ1@aol.com wrote: I worked with Dottie at the telephone company. She was a wonderful person and I always enjoyed her sense of humor and her talking about her home. We used to have lunch together and had many conversations re her home. I am sorry for you loss as Dottie was a very special person. Donna Jones ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Nancy Johnsen Curran http://pages.prodigy.net/nancycurran Genealogy research and photography in the capital region of New York State

    07/13/2006 12:02:48
    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] How to obtain documents from the Syracuse Diocese
    2. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk
    3. Just talked to the Secretary at St. Pauls. Here's the info on the Syracuse Diocese.. general Phone # 315-470-1420 Address : Chancery Office Bldg 240 East Onondaga St Syracuse, NY 13202 Happy hunting Marilyn Rowsey Dirk ----- Original Message ----- From: "rolaren" <rolaren@dreamscape.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:09 AM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] How to obtain documents from the Syracuse Diocese > Does anyone know how to contact the Syracuse Diocese, are they > accommodating > to receiving request? > I would like to make a request to them via email or phone call... > Thanks > Lauren D. Rowe >> >> -- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Peashey" <tompeashey@comcast.net> > Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:38 PM >> Subject: [NYOSWEGO] RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? > >> My father's family were a major part of St. Louis's parish for most o > >> th > 20th century... > I was baptized there. My pts were m there. It was a very quaint parish in > a > church that once was a vaudeville theatre... > Which made for a very accommodating church... don't know when they > closed the school but it must have been either >>> just before or after WWII. All of my aunts and uncles attended St. Louis > School. The nuns as I mentioned were French Canadian and many of the early > records will reflect French spellings or even be in French. >>>>> When they closed the parish down... A treasure trove of my fam hist >>>>> was > boxed and sent to Syracuse. >>>>> Poss due to th location o th parish on th Northeast Side o th city, I > associate th area frm th > business district to East 11th Street as being "French". >>> >>> -----Original From: Marilyn Rowsey Dirk [mailto:halylu@twcny.rr.com] > July 10, 2006 1:37 PM >>> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Re: St.Mary's or St. Peters? >>> My French Canadian family are mainly Buried at St Peters n th old > section. > snip/ They went to St Louis's Church (circa 1890) on East 4th and Bridge > that is now defunct. > Their records are in the main diocese in Syracuse. Before that they > mostly >>> went to St. Mary's but wanted to have their own French speaking mass > hench St. Louis was founded. > It looks almost like the one in St. Antoine Sur Richlieu, east of > Montreal, > both the town and church are >>> named after my 10th g-grandfather Antoine Courtemanche or > Shortsleeve/Shortslef in english.. >>>>> Marilyn Rowsey Dirk > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

    07/13/2006 09:58:03
    1. [NYOSWEGO] How to obtain documents from the Syracuse Diocese
    2. Russell Sprague
    3. Do a google search 'catholic diocese syracuse' or try www.411.com business listings. Either one should get you a phone number and address. Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland From: "rolaren" <rolaren@dreamscape.com> Reply-To: <rolauren@verizon.net> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYOSWEGO] How to obtain documents from the Syracuse Diocese Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:09:35 -0400 Does anyone know how to contact the Syracuse Diocese, are they accommodating to receiving request? I would like to make a request to them via email or phone call... Thanks Lauren D. Rowe > > -- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Peashey" <tompeashey@comcast.net> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:38 PM > Subject: [NYOSWEGO] RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? >> My father's family were a major part of St. Louis's parish for most o th 20th century... I was baptized there. My pts were m there. It was a very quaint parish in a church that once was a vaudeville theatre... Which made for a very accommodating church... don't know when they closed the school but it must have been either >> just before or after WWII. All of my aunts and uncles attended St. Louis School. The nuns as I mentioned were French Canadian and many of the early records will reflect French spellings or even be in French. >>>> When they closed the parish down... A treasure trove of my fam hist was boxed and sent to Syracuse. >>>> Poss due to th location o th parish on th Northeast Side o th city, I associate th area frm th business district to East 11th Street as being "French". >> >> -----Original From: Marilyn Rowsey Dirk [mailto:halylu@twcny.rr.com] July 10, 2006 1:37 PM >> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Re: St.Mary's or St. Peters? >> My French Canadian family are mainly Buried at St Peters n th old section. snip/ They went to St Louis's Church (circa 1890) on East 4th and Bridge that is now defunct. Their records are in the main diocese in Syracuse. Before that they mostly >> went to St. Mary's but wanted to have their own French speaking mass hench St. Louis was founded. It looks almost like the one in St. Antoine Sur Richlieu, east of Montreal, both the town and church are >> named after my 10th g-grandfather Antoine Courtemanche or Shortsleeve/Shortslef in english.. >>>> Marilyn Rowsey Dirk ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

    07/13/2006 09:31:17
    1. Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego?
    2. rolaren
    3. That was informative, but I don't know what you mean by 'corridor'. Where was it? What is it? Lauren --Original From: Marilyn Rowsey Dirk [mailto:halylu@twcny.rr.com] July 12 2006 2:33 PM Re: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? Be careful not to put yourself in a box. There are exceptions to the rules.. My Shortsleeve family (Catholics) on my mothers side came down through the corridor starting in Vermont and down through Albany, Watertown, Oswego and Sterling with stops in between in the 1830's and 40's when the English were persecuting them. Some moved back to the Quebec province later. My fathers side (Rowsey/Rowzee/Rosseau , Huguenot Protestant) came from France, through Canterbury England, then the Chesapeake Bay to settle in Virginia in the 1600's. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk -- Original From: <Groner2413@aol.com> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:45 AM Re: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? > There were many immigrants directly from France who settled in the village > of Little France which is near Mallory and West monroe,but I don't believe > that any French Canadians settled in that community.

    07/13/2006 05:38:29
    1. How to obtain documents from the Syracuse Diocese
    2. rolaren
    3. Does anyone know how to contact the Syracuse Diocese, are they accommodating to receiving request? I would like to make a request to them via email or phone call... Thanks Lauren D. Rowe > > -- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Peashey" <tompeashey@comcast.net> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:38 PM > Subject: [NYOSWEGO] RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? >> My father's family were a major part of St. Louis's parish for most o th 20th century... I was baptized there. My pts were m there. It was a very quaint parish in a church that once was a vaudeville theatre... Which made for a very accommodating church... don't know when they closed the school but it must have been either >> just before or after WWII. All of my aunts and uncles attended St. Louis School. The nuns as I mentioned were French Canadian and many of the early records will reflect French spellings or even be in French. >>>> When they closed the parish down... A treasure trove of my fam hist was boxed and sent to Syracuse. >>>> Poss due to th location o th parish on th Northeast Side o th city, I associate th area frm th business district to East 11th Street as being "French". >> >> -----Original From: Marilyn Rowsey Dirk [mailto:halylu@twcny.rr.com] July 10, 2006 1:37 PM >> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Re: St.Mary's or St. Peters? >> My French Canadian family are mainly Buried at St Peters n th old section. snip/ They went to St Louis's Church (circa 1890) on East 4th and Bridge that is now defunct. Their records are in the main diocese in Syracuse. Before that they mostly >> went to St. Mary's but wanted to have their own French speaking mass hench St. Louis was founded. It looks almost like the one in St. Antoine Sur Richlieu, east of Montreal, both the town and church are >> named after my 10th g-grandfather Antoine Courtemanche or Shortsleeve/Shortslef in english.. >>>> Marilyn Rowsey Dirk

    07/13/2006 05:09:35
    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego?
    2. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk
    3. If it's the one in Oswego on E 4th & Bridge, it's vacant waiting for a buyer. It is rumored someone wanted to make it into a gas station. How sad!!! But then again there is little real parking by it..My cousin Jean took me through it just after it closed. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk ----- Original Message ----- From: <grlswthguitars@aol.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? > From Rootsweb Oswego County Site (a reprint of an article written in > 1906): > > "St. Louis' ( French ) Catholic Church was organized as a separate parish > in 1870, the French Catholics up to that time forming a part of the > congregation of St. Mary's. Mead's Hall, at the corner of East Fourth and > Bridge Streets, was purchased for $7,000 and a considerable sum was > expended in fitting it up for church services. A convent was erected in > connection with the church in charge of the Sisters of St. Ann, and for a > number of years a school accommodating 300 pupils was maintained. The > church experienced a remarkable growth during the pastorate of the late > Rev. Joseph J. Auger, and the impress of the character of this noble > priest, whose death occurred two years ago, was felt by the people of > every denomination and leaves an enduring memory. The rector in charge at > the present time is Rev. J. W. Chauvin." > > Then if you go to fultonhistory.com and search for Mead's Hall, you will > find a number of articles about the "doings" at the hall prior to becoming > a church. Interesting stuff - they used it for the County Courts while > the Courthouse was being completed. It was also used as a temporary > school and for balls and fairs. Anyone know what's there now? > > > Kathi > IBSSG > New York - Thompson/Crane/Bramm/Fleischer > New Jersey - Thompson/Early/Coyle/Hunter > Wisconsin - Meissner/Steng/Diem/Zeininger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: halylu@twcny.rr.com > To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:55 AM > Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? > > > My grandmother Nellie Shortsleeve born 1892, my mother, myself and my > children were baptized there too.Where did you hear it was a vaudeville > theatre and when? What is your proof? I lived here since 1949 ( born in > Lexington Va 1942) and never heard of such a thing. Not that I believe or > disbelieve but I need a document or something to certify this. I'll check > with Justin at the records dept, he can answer this. > > Marilyn Rowsey Dirk > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Peashey" <tompeashey@comcast.net> > To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:38 PM > Subject: [NYOSWEGO] RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? > >> My father's family were a major part of St. Louis's parish for most of >> the 20th century... I was baptized there. My parents were married >> there. It was a very quaint parish in a church that once was a >> vaudeville theatre... Which made for a very accommodating church... I >> don't know when they closed the school but it must have been either >> just before or after WWII. All of my aunts and uncles attended St. >> Louis School. The nuns as I mentioned were French Canadian and many of >> the early records will reflect French spellings or even be in French. >> >> When they closed the parish down... A treasure trove of my family >> history was boxed and sent to Syracuse. >> >> Possibly due to the location of the parish on the Northeast Side of the >> city, I associate the area from the business district to East 11th >> Street as being "French". >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rolaren [mailto:rolaren@dreamscape.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:14 PM >> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? >> >> >> Marilyn Rowsey Dirk and I are cousins. >> Her info coincides with mine regarding our French Canadian ancestors. >> I just want to add one thing. One commenter said 'they' were living on >> the west side of Oswego. Some of my early ancestors lived on the far >> east side by east eleventh street... just another point people might >> need to ponder. >> Lauren Rowe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Marilyn Rowsey Dirk [mailto:halylu@twcny.rr.com] July 10, 2006 >> 1:37 PM >> To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Re: St.Mary's or St. Peters? >> >> My French Canadian family are mainly Buried at St Peters in the old >> section. (Just watch out for the wild geese)They went to St Louis's >> Church (circa 1890) on East 4th and Bridge that is now defunct. Their >> records are in the main diocese in Syracuse. Before that they mostly >> went to St. Mary's but wanted to have their own French speaking mass >> hench St. Louis was founded. It looks almost like the one in St. >> Antoine Sur Richlieu, east of Montreal, both the town and church are >> named after my 10th g-grandfather Antoine Courtemanche or >> Shortsleeve/Shortslef in english.. >> >> Marilyn Rowsey Dirk >> >> -- Original Message --- From: "Sue Hawes" <slhawes@verizon.net> Monday, >> July 10, 2006 5:35 AM >> Subject: [NYOSWEGO] St.Mary's or St. Peters? >>> I would like to ask one further question, please. >> Where would French Canadians be buried, with deaths around 1860+ ? >> > Sue >> >> ______________________________ >> >> >> ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== >> List Administrator Bonita Shafer >> Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com >> sagemarie98@earthlink.net >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and > IM. All on demand. Always Free. > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

    07/12/2006 10:38:03
    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego?
    2. Loring White
    3. Some of my family were residents of Little France, West Monroe, Constantia & Parish. There was a Rostiser (Rostizer) surname in my family somewhere, and I believe they came from Canada in the late 1880's. Loring White ----- Original Message ----- From: <Groner2413@aol.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? > There were many immigrants directly from France who settled in the village > of Little France which is near Mallory and West monroe,but I don't believe > that > any French Canadians settled in that community. > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

    07/12/2006 10:14:39
    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego?
    2. From Rootsweb Oswego County Site (a reprint of an article written in 1906): "St. Louis' ( French ) Catholic Church was organized as a separate parish in 1870, the French Catholics up to that time forming a part of the congregation of St. Mary's. Mead's Hall, at the corner of East Fourth and Bridge Streets, was purchased for $7,000 and a considerable sum was expended in fitting it up for church services. A convent was erected in connection with the church in charge of the Sisters of St. Ann, and for a number of years a school accommodating 300 pupils was maintained. The church experienced a remarkable growth during the pastorate of the late Rev. Joseph J. Auger, and the impress of the character of this noble priest, whose death occurred two years ago, was felt by the people of every denomination and leaves an enduring memory. The rector in charge at the present time is Rev. J. W. Chauvin." Then if you go to fultonhistory.com and search for Mead's Hall, you will find a number of articles about the "doings" at the hall prior to becoming a church. Interesting stuff - they used it for the County Courts while the Courthouse was being completed. It was also used as a temporary school and for balls and fairs. Anyone know what's there now? Kathi IBSSG New York - Thompson/Crane/Bramm/Fleischer New Jersey - Thompson/Early/Coyle/Hunter Wisconsin - Meissner/Steng/Diem/Zeininger -----Original Message----- From: halylu@twcny.rr.com To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? My grandmother Nellie Shortsleeve born 1892, my mother, myself and my children were baptized there too.Where did you hear it was a vaudeville theatre and when? What is your proof? I lived here since 1949 ( born in Lexington Va 1942) and never heard of such a thing. Not that I believe or disbelieve but I need a document or something to certify this. I'll check with Justin at the records dept, he can answer this. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Peashey" <tompeashey@comcast.net> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? > My father's family were a major part of St. Louis's parish for most of > the 20th century... I was baptized there. My parents were married > there. It was a very quaint parish in a church that once was a > vaudeville theatre... Which made for a very accommodating church... I > don't know when they closed the school but it must have been either > just before or after WWII. All of my aunts and uncles attended St. > Louis School. The nuns as I mentioned were French Canadian and many of > the early records will reflect French spellings or even be in French. > > When they closed the parish down... A treasure trove of my family > history was boxed and sent to Syracuse. > > Possibly due to the location of the parish on the Northeast Side of the > city, I associate the area from the business district to East 11th > Street as being "French". > > -----Original Message----- > From: rolaren [mailto:rolaren@dreamscape.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:14 PM > To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? > > > Marilyn Rowsey Dirk and I are cousins. > Her info coincides with mine regarding our French Canadian ancestors. > I just want to add one thing. One commenter said 'they' were living on > the west side of Oswego. Some of my early ancestors lived on the far > east side by east eleventh street... just another point people might > need to ponder. > Lauren Rowe > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marilyn Rowsey Dirk [mailto:halylu@twcny.rr.com] July 10, 2006 > 1:37 PM > To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Re: St.Mary's or St. Peters? > > My French Canadian family are mainly Buried at St Peters in the old > section. (Just watch out for the wild geese)They went to St Louis's > Church (circa 1890) on East 4th and Bridge that is now defunct. Their > records are in the main diocese in Syracuse. Before that they mostly > went to St. Mary's but wanted to have their own French speaking mass > hench St. Louis was founded. It looks almost like the one in St. > Antoine Sur Richlieu, east of Montreal, both the town and church are > named after my 10th g-grandfather Antoine Courtemanche or > Shortsleeve/Shortslef in english.. > > Marilyn Rowsey Dirk > > -- Original Message --- From: "Sue Hawes" <slhawes@verizon.net> Monday, > July 10, 2006 5:35 AM > Subject: [NYOSWEGO] St.Mary's or St. Peters? >> I would like to ask one further question, please. > Where would French Canadians be buried, with deaths around 1860+ ? > > Sue > > ______________________________ > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com sagemarie98@earthlink.net ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.

    07/12/2006 10:11:29
    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego?
    2. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk
    3. My grandmother Nellie Shortsleeve born 1892, my mother, myself and my children were baptized there too.Where did you hear it was a vaudeville theatre and when? What is your proof? I lived here since 1949 ( born in Lexington Va 1942) and never heard of such a thing. Not that I believe or disbelieve but I need a document or something to certify this. I'll check with Justin at the records dept, he can answer this. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Peashey" <tompeashey@comcast.net> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? > My father's family were a major part of St. Louis's parish for most of > the 20th century... I was baptized there. My parents were married > there. It was a very quaint parish in a church that once was a > vaudeville theatre... Which made for a very accommodating church... I > don't know when they closed the school but it must have been either > just before or after WWII. All of my aunts and uncles attended St. > Louis School. The nuns as I mentioned were French Canadian and many of > the early records will reflect French spellings or even be in French. > > When they closed the parish down... A treasure trove of my family > history was boxed and sent to Syracuse. > > Possibly due to the location of the parish on the Northeast Side of the > city, I associate the area from the business district to East 11th > Street as being "French". > > -----Original Message----- > From: rolaren [mailto:rolaren@dreamscape.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:14 PM > To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? > > > Marilyn Rowsey Dirk and I are cousins. > Her info coincides with mine regarding our French Canadian ancestors. > I just want to add one thing. One commenter said 'they' were living on > the west side of Oswego. Some of my early ancestors lived on the far > east side by east eleventh street... just another point people might > need to ponder. > Lauren Rowe > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marilyn Rowsey Dirk [mailto:halylu@twcny.rr.com] July 10, 2006 > 1:37 PM > To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Re: St.Mary's or St. Peters? > > My French Canadian family are mainly Buried at St Peters in the old > section. (Just watch out for the wild geese)They went to St Louis's > Church (circa 1890) on East 4th and Bridge that is now defunct. Their > records are in the main diocese in Syracuse. Before that they mostly > went to St. Mary's but wanted to have their own French speaking mass > hench St. Louis was founded. It looks almost like the one in St. > Antoine Sur Richlieu, east of Montreal, both the town and church are > named after my 10th g-grandfather Antoine Courtemanche or > Shortsleeve/Shortslef in english.. > > Marilyn Rowsey Dirk > > -- Original Message --- From: "Sue Hawes" <slhawes@verizon.net> Monday, > July 10, 2006 5:35 AM > Subject: [NYOSWEGO] St.Mary's or St. Peters? >> I would like to ask one further question, please. > Where would French Canadians be buried, with deaths around 1860+ ? > > Sue > > ______________________________ > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

    07/12/2006 08:55:22
    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego?
    2. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk
    3. Be careful not to put yourself in a box. There are exceptions to the rules.. My Shortsleeve family (Catholics) on my mothers side came down through the corridor starting in Vermont and down through Albany, Watertown, Oswego and Sterling with stops in between in the 1830's and 40's when the English were persecuting them. Some moved back to the Quebec province later. My fathers side (Rowsey/Rowzee/Rosseau , Huguenot Protestant) came from France, through Canterbury England, then the Chesapeake Bay to settle in Virginia in the 1600's. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk ----- Original Message ----- From: <Groner2413@aol.com> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? > There were many immigrants directly from France who settled in the village > of Little France which is near Mallory and West monroe,but I don't believe > that > any French Canadians settled in that community. > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

    07/12/2006 08:33:19
    1. RE: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego?
    2. Tom Peashey
    3. My father's family were a major part of St. Louis's parish for most of the 20th century... I was baptized there. My parents were married there. It was a very quaint parish in a church that once was a vaudeville theatre... Which made for a very accommodating church... I don't know when they closed the school but it must have been either just before or after WWII. All of my aunts and uncles attended St. Louis School. The nuns as I mentioned were French Canadian and many of the early records will reflect French spellings or even be in French. When they closed the parish down... A treasure trove of my family history was boxed and sent to Syracuse. Possibly due to the location of the parish on the Northeast Side of the city, I associate the area from the business district to East 11th Street as being "French". -----Original Message----- From: rolaren [mailto:rolaren@dreamscape.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:14 PM To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego? Marilyn Rowsey Dirk and I are cousins. Her info coincides with mine regarding our French Canadian ancestors. I just want to add one thing. One commenter said 'they' were living on the west side of Oswego. Some of my early ancestors lived on the far east side by east eleventh street... just another point people might need to ponder. Lauren Rowe -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Rowsey Dirk [mailto:halylu@twcny.rr.com] July 10, 2006 1:37 PM To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Re: St.Mary's or St. Peters? My French Canadian family are mainly Buried at St Peters in the old section. (Just watch out for the wild geese)They went to St Louis's Church (circa 1890) on East 4th and Bridge that is now defunct. Their records are in the main diocese in Syracuse. Before that they mostly went to St. Mary's but wanted to have their own French speaking mass hench St. Louis was founded. It looks almost like the one in St. Antoine Sur Richlieu, east of Montreal, both the town and church are named after my 10th g-grandfather Antoine Courtemanche or Shortsleeve/Shortslef in english.. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk -- Original Message --- From: "Sue Hawes" <slhawes@verizon.net> Monday, July 10, 2006 5:35 AM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] St.Mary's or St. Peters? > I would like to ask one further question, please. Where would French Canadians be buried, with deaths around 1860+ ? > Sue ______________________________

    07/12/2006 03:38:37
    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego?
    2. There were many immigrants directly from France who settled in the village of Little France which is near Mallory and West monroe,but I don't believe that any French Canadians settled in that community.

    07/11/2006 06:45:05
    1. Where did the French Canadians live in Oswego?
    2. rolaren
    3. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk and I are cousins. Her info coincides with mine regarding our French Canadian ancestors. I just want to add one thing. One commenter said 'they' were living on the west side of Oswego. Some of my early ancestors lived on the far east side by east eleventh street... just another point people might need to ponder. Lauren Rowe -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Rowsey Dirk [mailto:halylu@twcny.rr.com] July 10, 2006 1:37 PM To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Re: St.Mary's or St. Peters? My French Canadian family are mainly Buried at St Peters in the old section. (Just watch out for the wild geese)They went to St Louis's Church (circa 1890) on East 4th and Bridge that is now defunct. Their records are in the main diocese in Syracuse. Before that they mostly went to St. Mary's but wanted to have their own French speaking mass hench St. Louis was founded. It looks almost like the one in St. Antoine Sur Richlieu, east of Montreal, both the town and church are named after my 10th g-grandfather Antoine Courtemanche or Shortsleeve/Shortslef in english.. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk -- Original Message --- From: "Sue Hawes" <slhawes@verizon.net> Monday, July 10, 2006 5:35 AM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] St.Mary's or St. Peters? > I would like to ask one further question, please. Where would French Canadians be buried, with deaths around 1860+ ? > Sue

    07/11/2006 09:13:53
    1. Listing for Rural Cemetery in Fruit Valley
    2. rolaren
    3. Hi. Are you positive the county ofc on 481 has the Rural Cemetery plots listed? When I used the cemetery years ago to bury my brother they had a huge sheet of paper that seemed to be the original, that the staff, 'as we talked' obviously noted many mistakes... so I believed the 'sheet' which they relied on, was actually unreliable. But if the county ofc has a listing perhaps that's reliable. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: PhotoBev@aol.com [mailto:PhotoBev@aol.com] Sent: July 10, 2006 12:49 PM To: NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYOSWEGO] Listing for Rural Cemetery in Fruit Valley? Not on line. The Co record office on 481 has it, or you can go to the Oswego Town Clerks Office in Oswego Center, most afternoons ______________________________

    07/11/2006 09:03:32
    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] St.Mary's or St. Peters?
    2. Sue, My great-grandparents are French-Canadians and they are buried in St. Peters Cemetery although they did not die until later (1884 and 1902). I hope this may help you some. Carolyn

    07/10/2006 10:24:01
    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] St.Mary's or St. Peters?
    2. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk
    3. My French Canadian family are mainly Buried at St Peters in the old section. (Just watch out for the wild geese)They went to St Louis's Church ( circa 1890) on East 4th and Bridge that is now defunct. Their records are in the main diocese in Syracuse. Before that they mostly went to St. Mary's but wanted to have their own French speaking mass hench St. Louis was founded.. It looks almost like the one in St. Antoine Sur Richlieu ,east of Montreal, both the town and church are named after my 10th g-grandfather Antoine Courtemanche or Shortsleeve/Shortslef in english.. .Marilyn Rowsey Dirk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Hawes" <slhawes@verizon.net> To: <NYOSWEGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 5:35 AM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] St.Mary's or St. Peters? > Thanks to all who have helped direct me to proper channels when I reach > Oswego later this summer. > > I would like to ask one further question, please. Where would French > Canadians be buried, with deaths around 1860+ ? > > Sue > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > sagemarie98@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

    07/10/2006 07:37:04
    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] Listing for Rural Cemetery in Fruit Valley?
    2. In a message dated 7/10/2006 11:49:21 AM Central Daylight Time, PhotoBev@aol.com writes: Not on line. The Co record office on 481 has it, or you can go to the Oswego Town Clerks Office in Oswego Center, most afternoons Hello, I neglected to say in my prior posting that I'm usually 1800 miles away from Oswego and am trying to do this research for my cousins from afar. Thank you, Marilyn Stern, Austin, TX

    07/10/2006 07:23:55
    1. Re: [NYOSWEGO] Listing for Rural Cemetery in Fruit Valley?
    2. Not on line. The Co record office on 481 has it, or you can go to the Oswego Town Clerks Office in Oswego Center, most afternoons

    07/10/2006 06:48:37
    1. Listing for Rural Cemetery in Fruit Valley?
    2. Hello Oswego County List: If anyone has a copy of the listing for Rural cemetery in Fruit Valley, I'd love to see it. If it's already online, please let me know where. I am not looking for my own family members in this cemetery but for those of a cousin's: WOOD, BRADWAY, SHARKEY If there is a plan to put this listing online, I would be glad to help. Thank you and warm regards, Marilyn Hough Stern (My Oswego and Cayuga County family names: Baggs, Buck, Demass/Dumas, Hamilton, Ostrander, Perkins, Stock, Upcraft, Van Vlack/Van Vleck)

    07/10/2006 06:39:44