I grew up in the area. All the kids used to go there to look for 4 leaf clovers in the massive grass areas (probably the old parade grounds). It was a wonderful place to play in - high walls overlooking Lake Ontario. It's shaped in a 5 point star - massive abutments, canon cuts in the thick walls. In the summer it was so cool inside those walls. My father and uncle were stationed there in the 30's. -------Original Message------- From: Roger Phillips <[email protected]> Sent: 08/21/03 06:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fort Ontario Military Reservation > > Some posted a link to following website on the Hudson River Rootsweb list. It has summary information and links about every fort and other kind if military installation ever in NY. http://www.dmna.state.ny.us/forts/forts.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hartigan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:55 PM Subject: Re: Fort Ontario Military Reservation > Tee: > How about the Google search engine for "Fort Ontario"? You will ge 1,540,000 > hits. The first ten looked great. > Jim Hartigan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:10 PM > Subject: Fort Ontario Military Reservation > > > > can any one tell me about this place please . > > > > Tee > > Hadley NY > > > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > > Northern New York History and Genealogy > > www.nnygenealogy.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > Northern New York History and Genealogy > www.nnygenealogy.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== New York GenExchange http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Some posted a link to following website on the Hudson River Rootsweb list. It has summary information and links about every fort and other kind if military installation ever in NY. http://www.dmna.state.ny.us/forts/forts.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hartigan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:55 PM Subject: Re: Fort Ontario Military Reservation > Tee: > How about the Google search engine for "Fort Ontario"? You will ge 1,540,000 > hits. The first ten looked great. > Jim Hartigan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:10 PM > Subject: Fort Ontario Military Reservation > > > > can any one tell me about this place please . > > > > Tee > > Hadley NY > > > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > > Northern New York History and Genealogy > > www.nnygenealogy.com > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > Northern New York History and Genealogy > www.nnygenealogy.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks Jim Tee

Tee: How about the Google search engine for "Fort Ontario"? You will ge 1,540,000 hits. The first ten looked great. Jim Hartigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "tee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:10 PM Subject: Fort Ontario Military Reservation > can any one tell me about this place please . > > Tee > Hadley NY > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > Northern New York History and Genealogy > www.nnygenealogy.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

can any one tell me about this place please . Tee Hadley NY

I think everyone should know that Barbara Dix is not sitting around worrying about her loss of job. She is going to run against one of the board members who voted to eliminate her job. She has gotten the necessary sigantures to have herself put on the ballot. I think she needs to have a thumbs up and to let her know that we all support her in her new endoavor. Way to go BARB!!!!!!!! Jean Payton

Thank you for the information, I did enter Diamond Match Company and got over 500 hits and randomly looked at what I thought might apply to ownership in Oswego. Diane

Diane wrote -Does anyone know who might have owned the Diamond Match Company around the late 1890's or early 1900's. Diane I did a google search "Diamond Match Factory" +Oswego and received 15 hits. I found the following at : http://www.cityofbarberton.com/live/history/1891-1911_more.shtml About 1905, (O.C)Barber retired from active participation in the Diamond Match Company and spent his retirement years in Barberton developing his experimental farm As president of the Diamond Match conglomerate, Barber had begun a program of modernization which included new plants in strategic locations. Important to his plan was the availability of water transportation for shipment of lumber. A new plant was built at Oswego, New York, followed by the new match works at Barberton in 1894. (Sources indicate that these two plants were similar in design.) Lumber was shipped from Michigan by lake to Cleveland, and then by canal to Barberton. The new factory was located on approximately 20 acres on the beltline and the canal, giving it excellent transportation advantages. Construction was completed in 1894 and the match works began operations 1895. This plant produced both matches and the machinery for making matches. By February of 1895, 2090 men and women were employed at Diamond Match in Barberton. While many of the buildings were destroyed, an outstanding grouping of Diamond Match buildings remains standing on South Fourth Street. Housing the company's Engineering Department, these buildings were used to design and produce the match machinery used by the company. And I found the following on - http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:VpLx5zF3DL0J:www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/frankfort/earlyfrank.html+%22Diamond+Match+Compa ny%22+%2BOswego&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 It took great effort and patience to introduce this new fire maker to the public. (William) Gates, however, met the challenge and enlarged his factory eight times, operated 19 buildings, and employed three hundred people. During the 13 years when the factory reached its peak of production, the United States Government collected more than three million dollars of revenue on one cent a box of every one hundred matches. Later the interests were joined with the Diamond Match Company and after 50 years of prosperity in Frankfort, the industry was moved to Oswego in order to be nearer the lumber resources. Thus, the origin of the Diamond Match Company has its beginnings in Herkimer County and in the town and village of Frankfort. The marker at the site of the William Gates Match Factory reads: "1844 peddled matches in Utica; 1854 invented the first continuous match machine; and 1855 introduced the first phosphorus match." (This was accomplished by Mayor George Corrado some years ago.) Better yet do your own google search and you might find something of interest. Hope this helps. Laura J. Kandro New Jersey Researching Surnames: BOHACZ, BRATKOWSKY, CHOPSKY (CZAPSKA), DEMYEN, FEKETY, FEKETI, FEKETE, GOLINSKY (GOLINSKI), KANDRATOWICZ (KANDRO) (KONDRATOWICZ) (KONDRATOVICH), KONDRAY, KUCHINSKI, KUSDIOSKA, LISKO, MURAD, OSTROVERKY (STOVERCHY), PAWLAK, RUSIN, SMARZIK, WASIL Researching Places: Kupel, Volhynia (Wolyn) Gubernya, Russia (now Ukraine); Rerzia/Rerzici, Gubernia Witebsk (now Vitebsk, Belarus), Bukovini, Mal~opolska, Poland; Galicia, Austria US Residences: Oswego, Oswego, NY; Cherry Valley, Otsego, NY; Bridgeport, Fairfield, CT; Stratford, Fairfield, CT; Milford, New Haven, CT; Culver City & Inglewood, Los Angeles, CA; Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne, PA

Does anyone know who might have owned the Diamond Match Company around the late 1890's or early 1900's. Thanks, Diane

In a message dated 8/17/03 8:11:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > If you do want to look at civil war pension or > service records, go to the Archives your first day in DC to make a request > to have the particular files you want pulled because they will not have them > available for you until the next day. > No, I get them the same day. They pull at least twice a day, but you must have your request in by a certain time. 11:20 is the first, I believe...a few minutes one way or another...and the files are ready within 2 hours. The second pickup is 1:30, and again, the files are ready within 2 hours. Did it just two weeks ago. But specify that you want it that same day and the time you want it. If you have your request in prior to the 11:something pick up, you can specify that you want it for the 1:30 or the 3:30 reading. I suppose you can request it for the next day and I imagine after 3:30 that is what you will get, but if you are early enough, you can get it within 2 hours. So I would suggest that the very first thing you do at the NARA is get the film for specific pensions, copy the NARA information from it, have the personnel check to make sure the form is filled out properly and get it into the pickup box ASAP. If you don't find a pension, check for military records in the state film. It isn't as intensive as the pension file, but I was surprised to find as much as I did in the military records. Shirley Maynard

Marilyn, The Library of Congress is a wonderful place to do genealogical research. Check out the webpage for the local history & genealogy research room: http://www.loc.gov/rr/genealogy/. There are no primary sources like birth records, but more secondary sources than you would likely have time to look through, including a lot of published genealogies. In addition to the local history & genealogy room, I also really like the city directories room -- there are tons of directories available on self-service microfilm (http://www.loc.gov/rr/microform/uscity/). When you first arrive and register, you'll have a chance to sit down with a librarian who will give you information about the particular types of resources that would be good for your research. If you have time, a trip to the National Archives would also be a good place to go. If you have any ancestors who fought in the Civil War, there is often a wealth of information available through pension files (if they exist). There are also many types of records on microfilm (e.g., census and immigration records). If you do want to look at civil war pension or service records, go to the Archives your first day in DC to make a request to have the particular files you want pulled because they will not have them available for you until the next day. http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/about_genealogy_research.html There are usually very nice volunteers at the Archives who will answer your questions about genealogy research, too. For both locations, you'll need to give yourself time to get a researcher's id card when you arrive (bring your driver's license), and bring a quarter with you for a locker if you go to the Archives (there are free cloak rooms at the LOC). Be sure to check out the information on both websites for new researchers -- it will save you a lot of time so that you can focus on research while you are there -- and bring small bills to buy a copy card. If for some reason you ran out of things to do, I've been told that the Daughters of the American Revolution also has an excellent genealogy collection in its library, which is open to the public. SarahAnne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Bess" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 2:39 PM Subject: Research in Washington > Has anyone on this list researched in the Library of Congress? What kind of > genealogical records would I find there? Another question, If you could your > research in Washington a couple of days/ What places should I research? > Marilyn Bess > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Just wanted to point out a great place for LINKS> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycnygs Try the Civil War Military Personnel search engine, for example. Jim Hartigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Crego" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:49 PM Subject: Headlines in today's paper reads: DISMISSED COUNTY EMPLOYEES CONTEMPLATE THEIR FUTURE > http://www.pall-times.com/display/inn_news/news2.txt > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

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Here is part of a note sent to me by Barbara Dix & she asked me to let you all know: You did a magnificent job! The paper called and asked if I was aware that there was an avalanche of emails to the county. The letters read before the legislature took about 20 minutes and Ted read every word. As for running I think I will run against my Legislator who gave me lip service and was the one who stood, pointed her finger at the audience and roared don't embarass yourselves when some of the audience vocally disagreed with what was said. These Republicans need to be routed out of the party and we need to help do it. I think enough people are angry that we may be able to make a change. I will keep in touch and again, thank you and can you get my thanks to all these folks that cared so much? I am so blessed! Barb

[email protected] Here is the address I have for Barbara.

Mine came back too. I'll find out why. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk ----- Original Message ----- From: "dorothy baker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 5:21 PM Subject: Barbara Dix e-mail address > Would you please give out the e-mail address for Barbara Dix again. The [email protected] did not work. Thanks. > > Dorothy > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Vote Democrat in November! I'd rather pay much higher city, county, and state, taxes; even perhaps a higher sales taxes is in order so people can keep their government jobs! Can you afford to do so? -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 12:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Legislators part 1 I hope this goes through. The only ones on this that voted No are Lindsey & McMahon. Lets show them our support. Is it meer coincidence they held off the voting on this proposition til after all thepetitions were in? I think not. They new exactly what they were doing. We still have a vote in November. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== New York GenExchange http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Sorry it didn't. I will write out the full info when I can get a chance. If you gave Barb anything for the Record center please give her permission to keep it. She is thinking of starting her own research business as an individual. She said for all concerned they could email her. Anyone interested I have Barbs home email addy that she gave me permission to give to you. It is [email protected] Those of you who live in the Phoenix area write her in for County Legislator to replace Kimberly Seager . Marilyn Rowsey Dirk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 2:58 PM Subject: Legislators part 1 > I hope this goes through. The only ones on this that voted No are Lindsey & > McMahon. Lets show them our support. Is it meer coincidence they held off > the voting on this proposition till after all the petitions were in? I think > not. They new exactly what they were doing. We still have a vote in > November. > Marilyn Rowsey Dirk > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I hope this goes through. The only ones on this that voted No are Lindsey & McMahon. Lets show them our support. Is it meer coincidence they held off the voting on this proposition til after all thepetitions were in? I think not. They new exactly what they were doing. We still have a vote in November. Marilyn Rowsey Dirk

Has anyone on this list researched in the Library of Congress? What kind of genealogical records would I find there? Another question, If you could your research in Washington a couple of days/ What places should I research? Marilyn Bess