[email protected] wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > NYOSWEGO-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 131 > > Today's Topics: > #1 mail lists/message boards ["Gordon J. Johnson" <[email protected]] > #2 RE: VANT mailing list created ["TreeWright" <[email protected]] > #3 Re: VANT mailing list created ["liz Parmalee" <[email protected]] > #4 Re: VANT mailing list created [[email protected]] > #5 Identifying [email protected] ["Kevin Benson" <[email protected]] > #6 ALFORD OR ALFRED, Cyrus L. ["Gordon J. Johnson" <[email protected]] > #7 Re: Subject line for NYOSWEGO mail [Jacqueline Munch <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from NYOSWEGO-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > Bonita H Shafer > List Administrator > [email protected] > > > > ______________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > mail lists/message boards > From: > "Gordon J. Johnson" <[email protected]> > Date: > Sat, 06 Sep 2003 08:44:40 -0600 > To: > [email protected] > > > ROOTSWEB REVIEW news is very, very good. It solves many problems and > prevents problems by informing us of the best way to post our messages: > > Don't forget - these messages go all over the world. Our 'shorthand' > way of talking is not only different than in other countries, but also > different in other parts of our own country. They suggest noting cities > AND states. And instead of assuming everyone reading the lists/boards > ALREADY know what is going on, so consider that someone who sees a > lists/board for the first time, is not already 'in the loop'. So writng > in complete sentences is much better understood. > > Please check-in to receiving "Rootsweb Review". It's provided by the > 'experts' in genealogy research. > > Hope this helps. > > johnson > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > RE: VANT mailing list created > From: > "TreeWright" <[email protected]> > Date: > Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:00:28 -0400 > To: > [email protected] > > > You should at least get a subject line such as: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V03 > #130. > > -----Original Message----- > From: liz Parmalee [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > > The confusion, I think, stems from the fact that when you get a message > from > the Oswego list, it does not identify itself as such, at least it > doesn't on > my computer. > Liz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lauren" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:36 AM > Subject: RE: VANT mailing list created > > > >>you are a member of the NYOswego mailing list right? Well Jerry wrote > > a > message > >>'to the list' (which means everybody on the list will get a copy) he > > wanted to > >>let people interested in the VANT surname know that a new list for > > that > name > >>'now' exists if they wish to sign up. Now do you understand? I don't > > understand > >>your confusion. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Marilyn Bess [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:39 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created >> >> >>Yes. just what is this ,ailing list and how did you get my address to > > invite > >>me to sign up. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:12 AM >>Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created >> >> >> >>>What is a VANT mailing list? >>> >>>Ken >>> >>>>My request has been granted and Rootsweb has started >>>>VANT mailing list. >>>> >>>>You are all invited to sign up by sending a BLANK >>>>message to >>>>[email protected] >>>>put "subscribe" n the subject line. >>>> Jerry Hale >>>> Deltona, FL >>>>==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== >>> >>>New York GenExchange >>>http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny >> >> >>==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== >>New York GenExchange >>http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > go to: > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > > ______________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: VANT mailing list created > From: > "liz Parmalee" <[email protected]> > Date: > Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:31:36 -0400 > To: > [email protected] > > > I am sorry I do not get the NYOSWEGO heading when I receive my listings > from them. > Liz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TreeWright" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:00 PM > Subject: RE: VANT mailing list created > > > >>You should at least get a subject line such as: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V03 >>#130. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: liz Parmalee [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:38 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created >> >>The confusion, I think, stems from the fact that when you get a message >>from >>the Oswego list, it does not identify itself as such, at least it >>doesn't on >>my computer. >>Liz >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Lauren" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:36 AM >>Subject: RE: VANT mailing list created >> >> >> >>>you are a member of the NYOswego mailing list right? Well Jerry wrote >> >>a >>message >> >>>'to the list' (which means everybody on the list will get a copy) he >> >>wanted to >> >>>let people interested in the VANT surname know that a new list for >> >>that >>name >> >>>'now' exists if they wish to sign up. Now do you understand? I don't >> >>understand >> >>>your confusion. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Marilyn Bess [mailto:[email protected]] >>>Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:39 PM >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created >>> >>> >>>Yes. just what is this ,ailing list and how did you get my address to >> >>invite >> >>>me to sign up. >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> >>>To: <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:12 AM >>>Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created >>> >>> >>> >>>>What is a VANT mailing list? >>>> >>>>Ken >>>> >>>>>My request has been granted and Rootsweb has started >>>>>VANT mailing list. >>>>> >>>>>You are all invited to sign up by sending a BLANK >>>>>message to >>>>>[email protected] >>>>>put "subscribe" n the subject line. >>>>> Jerry Hale >>>>> Deltona, FL >>>>>==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== >>>> >>>>New York GenExchange >>>>http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny >>> >>> >>>==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== >>>New York GenExchange >>>http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny >>> >>>============================== >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >> >>records, >>go to: >> >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>> >>> >> >> >>==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== >>Northern New York History and Genealogy >>www.nnygenealogy.com >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > go to: > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > > ______________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: VANT mailing list created > From: > [email protected] > Date: > Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:57:55 -0400 > To: > [email protected] > > > On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:00:28 -0400 "TreeWright" <[email protected]> > writes: > >>You should at least get a subject line such as: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V03 >>#130. > > > That subject line only appears on messages going to people who are on the > Digest form of the list. Many people like to receive emails one at a > time, and there is no identifying of them except by who they are > addressed to, and many email programs do not automatically show that. > > On the Digest, you can see the subjects that those of us on the regular > list see in our subject lines by scrolling through your list to the > individual mails. Subject lines are numbered, I believe. For example, the > subject on this particular email thread is "VANT mailing list created," > and that is what appears in our (those on the regular non-Digest list) > subject line. > > -Ellen > > ______________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Identifying [email protected] Emails / Was: Re: VANT mailing list > created > From: > "Kevin Benson" <[email protected]> > Date: > Sat, 6 Sep 2003 18:55:20 -0400 > To: > [email protected] > > > It *APPEARS* to be that every message from this list contains the > following line near the bottom of the text area: > > >>==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:57 PM > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > > > >>On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:00:28 -0400 "TreeWright" > > <[email protected]> > >>writes: >> >>>You should at least get a subject line such as: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V03 >>>#130. >> >>That subject line only appears on messages going to people who are on > > the > >>Digest form of the list. Many people like to receive emails one at a >>time, and there is no identifying of them except by who they are >>addressed to, and many email programs do not automatically show that. >> >>On the Digest, you can see the subjects that those of us on the regular >>list see in our subject lines by scrolling through your list to the >>individual mails. Subject lines are numbered, I believe. For example, > > the > >>subject on this particular email thread is "VANT mailing list created," >>and that is what appears in our (those on the regular non-Digest list) >>subject line. >> >>-Ellen >> >> >>==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== >>New York GenExchange >>http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny >> >>============================== >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ______________________________ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > ALFORD OR ALFRED, Cyrus L. > From: > "Gordon J. Johnson" <[email protected]> > Date: > Sat, 06 Sep 2003 17:49:31 -0600 > To: > [email protected] > > > I'm looking for a marriage record for Cyrus (Lafayette) Alford or Alfred > to a Melvina, maiden name unknown, 22 Sept. 1851 in Oswego, NY. They > had a son, Cyrus Jr. in 1852. Does anyone know if boatmen were > overlooked in the Federal Censuses? I think Cyrus may have been one. > Are there any other records of Oswego that I can check OnLine?? Thanks > for your help! > > johnson > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: Subject line for NYOSWEGO mailing list > From: > Jacqueline Munch <[email protected]> > Date: > Sat, 06 Sep 2003 22:15:06 -0500 > To: > [email protected] > > > This is the only mailing list I'm on that does not identify itself in the subject. > I've always wondered why. I have ppprobably deleted many of them not even knowing > they were from the Oswego list, since I don't like to open unknown messages. > Whoever is responsible for this list should take some action to get that > identification in the subject line as a courtesy to all of us. > > Jacquie Some thoughts - I wonder if one's own 'software', and or browser plays a role here. We recently loaded an updated version of Netscape, and its formating is quite different from our older one. Glad to learn the D-list and L-list can appear different, to others. I was first on the L-list, and found that ON MY screen I received all of the past conversation (string) on the D-list, and felt better informed, so I switched. Are the lists managers really responsible for this? johnson

Boatmen are definitely included on the 1850 and 1860 censuses. I have collected several on my lines. Happy hunting, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: Gordon J. Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: ALFORD OR ALFRED, Cyrus L. I'm looking for a marriage record for Cyrus (Lafayette) Alford or Alfred to a Melvina, maiden name unknown, 22 Sept. 1851 in Oswego, NY. They had a son, Cyrus Jr. in 1852. Does anyone know if boatmen were overlooked in the Federal Censuses? I think Cyrus may have been one. Are there any other records of Oswego that I can check OnLine?? Thanks for your help! johnson ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== Northern New York History and Genealogy www.nnygenealogy.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I did not mean to start anything, just explaining to someone why someone else was confused about the message she had received--the original person did not realize the message had come through the NYOSWEGO mail list, and had wondered how this person had gotten her e-mail address. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 8:02 AM Subject: RE: Subject line for NYOSWEGO mailing list > Hi I am on many lists. I prefer not to have information describing the list > origin in the subject line. > I receive messages in digest form. When I open the first (lead in or > introductory) Administrative file, I scan the subject lines. The subject line > only allows for a limited number of characters. When list administrators choose > to include characters (anything but the actual subject of the message) in the > subject line not only is it non informative - it 'takes up character spaces used > to accurately describe the subject. This is necessary for people who receive > hundreds of e-mails a day. We have to be able to screen messages quickly. > Screening is done most effectively when the name of the list is omitted allowing > the spaces to more accurately describe the 'true' content of the message! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacqueline Munch [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 11:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Subject line for NYOSWEGO mailing list > > > This is the only mailing list I'm on that does not identify itself in the > subject. > I've always wondered why. I have ppprobably deleted many of them not even > knowing > they were from the Oswego list, since I don't like to open unknown messages. > Whoever is responsible for this list should take some action to get that > identification in the subject line as a courtesy to all of us. > > Jacquie > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > Northern New York History and Genealogy > www.nnygenealogy.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi I am on many lists. I prefer not to have information describing the list origin in the subject line. I receive messages in digest form. When I open the first (lead in or introductory) Administrative file, I scan the subject lines. The subject line only allows for a limited number of characters. When list administrators choose to include characters (anything but the actual subject of the message) in the subject line not only is it non informative - it 'takes up character spaces used to accurately describe the subject. This is necessary for people who receive hundreds of e-mails a day. We have to be able to screen messages quickly. Screening is done most effectively when the name of the list is omitted allowing the spaces to more accurately describe the 'true' content of the message! -----Original Message----- From: Jacqueline Munch [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 11:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Subject line for NYOSWEGO mailing list This is the only mailing list I'm on that does not identify itself in the subject. I've always wondered why. I have ppprobably deleted many of them not even knowing they were from the Oswego list, since I don't like to open unknown messages. Whoever is responsible for this list should take some action to get that identification in the subject line as a courtesy to all of us. Jacquie

Hope this HELPS !!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1880US_6660125&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=99 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Cyris L. ALFORD Self M Male W 52 NY Carpenter --- --- Malvina M. ALFORD Wife M Female W 45 NY Keeping use --- --- Annie Bell ALFORD GDau S Female W 5 WI NY NY Sally M. CARLEY MotherL W Female W 70 NY Carpet Weaver RI RI C. A. M. BURNHAM SisterL W Female W 52 NY Physician NY NY Source Information: Census Place Baraboo, Sauk, Wisconsin Family History Library Film 1255446 NA Film Number T9-1446 Page Number 31B ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1880US_6660768&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=5 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Sanford ALFORD Self M Male W 57 NY Laborer NY NY Rose E. ALFORD Wife M Female W 52 NY Keeping House NY NY Abbie ALFORD Dau S Female W 19 WI At Home NY NY Charles ALFORD Son S Male W 15 WI At Home NY NY Phebe CLEMENT MotherL W Female W 85 NY At Home NJ NJ Source Information: Census Place Delton, Sauk, Wisconsin Family History Library Film 1255446 NA Film Number T9-1446 Page Number 67D ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.interment.net/data/us/wi/sauk/lake_delton/delton_ab.htm Lake Delton Cemetery - Delton, Sauk County, Wisconsin Alford, Harry E., b. 1893, d. Aug 1, 1980, WWI, s/w Norma G. Alford, Section 2 Alford, Norma G., b. 1906, d. 1996, s/w Harry E. Alford, Section 2 Alford, Rose Ellen (Clement), b. 1827, d. Sep 21, 1913, s/w Sanford Alford, Section 2 Alford, Sanford, b. 1821, d. Sep 14, 1901, s/w Rose E. Alford, Section 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/PRF/individual_record.asp?recid=130650508&lds=2&region=-1&frompage=99 Individual Record FamilySearchT Pedigree Resource File Sanford ALFORD Compact Disc #13 Pin #650508 Sex: M Event(s): Birth: 1821 Place: New York Death: 14 Sep 1901 Place: Sauk co.,Wisconsin Parents: Marriage(s): Spouse: Rose Ellen CLEMENT Disc #13 Pin #650507 Marriage: Place: Sauk co.,Wisconsin Notes and Sources: Notes: None Sources: None Submitter: Sharon NEMANIC 965 East Canyon Breeze Lane Draper, Utah 84020 Submission Search: 819996-0407100225246 URL: CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #13 CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=100267113517&lds=1&region=11&regionfriendly=North+America&frompage=99 IGI Individual Record FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v5.0 North America Rose Ellen CLEMENT Female Event(s): Birth: 05 AUG 1827 , , New York Christening: Death: 21 SEP 1913 , Sauk, Wisconsin Burial: Parents: Father: Stephen CLEMENT Family Mother: Phebe WALKER ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/PRF/individual_record.asp?recid=130650507&lds=2&region=-1&frompage=99 Individual Record FamilySearchT Pedigree Resource File Rose Ellen CLEMENT Compact Disc #13 Pin #650507 Sex: F Event(s): Birth: 5 Aug 1827 Place: New York Death: 21 Sep 1913 Place: Sauk co.,Wisconsin Parents: Father: Steve CLEMENT Disc #13 Pin #644375 Mother: Phebe WALKER Disc #13 Pin #644376 Marriage(s): Spouse: Sanford ALFORD Disc #13 Pin #650508 Marriage: Place: Sauk co.,Wisconsin Notes and Sources: Notes: None Sources: None Submitter: Sharon NEMANIC 965 East Canyon Breeze Lane Draper, Utah 84020 Submission Search: 819996-0407100225246 URL: CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #13 CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.interment.net/data/us/wi/sauk/lake_delton/delton_cf.htm Clement, Abiel, b. NY, d. Mar 1869, 71y, Section 2 Clement, Augustus, b. 1849, d. Mar 27, 1922, s/w Lorenzo Clement, Section 1 Clement, Clarinda (Alford), b. Jun 10, 1827, d. Mar 12, 1899, no stone, s/w Hiram Clement Clement, Elizabeth (Carver), d. May 25, 1912, no stone, w/o Nelson, s/w Nelson Clement Clement, Emeline (Kingsley), b. 1851, d. 1939, w/o Lorenzo, s/w Lorenzo Clement, Section 1 Clement, Frank, b. Dec 4, 1868, d. Jul 20, 1925, no stone, s/w Hiram Clement Clement, Hiram, b. May 3, 1825, d. Aug 24, 1910, no stone Clement, Lorenzo, b. 1844, d. Aug 6, 1922, Co. E, 12th WVI, Section 1 Clement, Mary F. F. (Hulbert), b. 1827, d. 1971, s/w Franklin L. Hulbert, Section 2 Clement, Nelson, d. Feb 1, 1908, no stone, s/w Elizabeth Clement Clement, Stephen, d. Nov 1, 1861, 68y ?m 12d, Section 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=100133285547&lds=1&region=11&regionfriendly=North+America&frompage=99 IGI Individual Record FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v5.0 North America Clarinda ALFORD Female Family Event(s): Birth: 10 JUN 1827 , , New York Christening: Death: 12 MAR 1899 Burial: Marriages: Spouse: Hiram CLEMENT Family Marriage: About 1847 , , New York ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/PRF/individual_record.asp?recid=130649629&lds=2&region=-1&frompage=99 Individual Record FamilySearchT Pedigree Resource File Clarinda ALFORD Compact Disc #13 Pin #649629 Sex: F Event(s): Birth: 10 Jun 1827 Place: ,,New York,USA Death: 12 Mar 1899 Place: Delton,Sauk,Wisconsin,USA Burial: Place: Lake Delton Cem,Sauk,Wisconsin,USA Parents: Marriage(s): Spouse: Hiram CLEMENT Disc #13 Pin #649626 Marriage: abt 1847 Place: ,,New York,USA Notes and Sources: Notes: None Sources: None Submitter: Sharon NEMANIC 965 East Canyon Breeze Lane Draper, Utah 84020 Submission Search: 819996-0407100225246 URL: CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #13 CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=100133285544&lds=1&region=11&regionfriendly=North+America&frompage=99 IGI Individual Record FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v5.0 North America Hiram CLEMENT Male Family Event(s): Birth: 03 MAY 1825 , Montgomery, New York Christening: Death: 24 AUG 1910 Burial: Parents: Father: Steve CLEMENT Family Mother: Phebe CLEMENT Marriages: Spouse: Clarinda ALFORD Family Marriage: About 1847 , , New York ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1880US_6660877&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=99 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Hiram CLEMENT Self M Male W 56 NY Farmer NY VT Lorinda CLEMENT Wife M Female W 53 NY Keeping House NY NY Willie CLEMENT Son S Male W 15 WI At Home NY NY Frank CLEMENT Son S Male W 10 WI At School NY NY Source Information: Census Place Delton, Sauk, Wisconsin Family History Library Film 1255446 NA Film Number T9-1446 Page Number 72A ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=100091331254&lds=1&region=11&regionfriendly=North+America&frompage=99 IGI Individual Record FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v5.0 North America HIRAM CLEMENT Male Event(s): Birth: 1825 Theresa, Jefferson, New York Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JAMES CLEMENT Family Mother: ANNIE ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=122846&id=I3259 Name: Steve CLEMENT Given Name: Steve Surname: CLEMENT Sex: M Birth: ABT 1792 in ,,New York,USA Death: 1861 in Delton,Sauk,Wisconsin,USA LDS Baptism: status: SUBMITTED Temple: JRIVE Endowment: status: SUBMITTED Temple: JRIVE Note: !Listed on the census records in Sauk Co 'Wisconsin 1860 farmer with some of his childern age 68. 1840 census Root, Montgomery Co. New york Aaron P Clement males 1 under 5 1 15-10 1 20-30 1 40-50 Females 1 under 5 3 10-15 1 20-30 1 40-50 John Clement Males 1 under 5 2 5-10 2 10-15 1 15-20 1 40-50 Females 2 under 5 2 10-15 1 30-40 Henry Clement Males 1 under 5 1 30-40 Females 1 30-40 Glen, Montgomery Co., New York John S. Clement Males 1 10-15 1 40-50 Females 1 5-10 2 10-15 1 20-30 1 30-40 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.montgomery/1544 CLEMENT\WALKER\MONTANYE\BOWMAN\AYERS\BUNNELL Author: Sharon Nemanic Date: 1 Sep 2002 2:11 PM GMT Surnames: CLEMENT/WALKER/MONTANYE/AYERS/BOWMAN/BUNNELL Classification: Query Post Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse Print Message I am looking for information on Phebe Walker born 10 November 1794 in Charleston, Montgomery County, New York married Stephen Clement 17 December 1812 in Charleston. Embraced Christianity in 1816. Migrated to Lake Delton, Sauk County, Wisconsin where they are buried. Children are: Jacob, James, Nancy married William Montanye, Samuel, Charles, Ruth married Bowman, Sarah married Bowman, Rose Ellen married Alford, Annis married Sidney K. Ayers,Stephen, David, Mary Helen married Bunnell. They had 14 children, 2 died in infancy and are probably burid in Charleston. If you have any information on this family. please email me at [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- http://www.interment.net/data/us/wi/sauk/walnut/walnut_babe.htm Bartlett, Alfred, b. 1859, d. 1933, s/w Jennie Bartlett, North Division, NE 1/4 Bartlett, Jennie (Alford), b. 1872, d. 1944, w/o Alfred, s/w Alfred Bartlett, North Division, NE 1/4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon J. Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:49 PM Subject: ALFORD OR ALFRED, Cyrus L. > I'm looking for a marriage record for Cyrus (Lafayette) Alford or Alfred > to a Melvina, maiden name unknown, 22 Sept. 1851 in Oswego, NY. They > had a son, Cyrus Jr. in 1852. Does anyone know if boatmen were > overlooked in the Federal Censuses? I think Cyrus may have been one. > Are there any other records of Oswego that I can check OnLine?? Thanks > for your help! > > johnson

It doesn't on my computer ,either! Like the last email from Lauren didn't tell me it was from this list. Now because i knew we were discussing Vant Mailing list I knew. But sometimes they just come through with a subject that isnt identifiable as coming from this list. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 7:27 AM Subject: RE: VANT mailing list created > WoW that's interesting! ... let me see if I understand what you said --- > 'you don't know when a message is from a list member? > 'All' of the messages I receive come to me in a group packet with the address > indicating it is from the list. > This isn't the way you receive your list messages? > Notice the 'headings' below... they tell me that the e-mail is from a list > member. Don't your messages come to you with these headings? > --Orig Message--From: liz Parmalee [mailto:[email protected] Friday, > September 05, 2003 2:38 PM > To: [email protected] Re: VANT mailing list created > The confusion, I think, stems from the fact that when you get a message from > the Oswego list, it does not identify itself as such, at least it doesn't on my > computer. > Liz > -- Original Message --- From: "Lauren" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected] Friday, September 05, 2003 9:36 AM RE: VANT > mailing list created > > you are a member of the NYOswego mailing list right? Well Jerry wrote a > message > > 'to the list' (which means everybody on the list will get a copy) he wanted to > > let people interested in the VANT surname know that a new list for that name > > 'now' exists if they wish to sign up. Now do you understand? I don't > understand > > your confusion. > > > > --Orig Message----- From: Marilyn Bess [mailto:[email protected] Wed Sept 3 2003 > 6:39p > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > > > Yes. just what is this ,ailing list and how did you get my address to invite > me to sign up. > > ----- Original Message -----> From: "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected] Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:12 AM > > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > >> > What is a VANT mailing list? > >> > Ken > > > My request has been granted and Rootsweb has started VANT mailing list. > > You are all invited to sign up by sending a BLANK message to > > > > [email protected] > > > > put "subscribe" n the subject line. > > > > Jerry Hale Deltona, FL > > >> ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > > > New York GenExchange http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

WoW that's interesting! ... let me see if I understand what you said --- 'you don't know when a message is from a list member? 'All' of the messages I receive come to me in a group packet with the address indicating it is from the list. This isn't the way you receive your list messages? Notice the 'headings' below... they tell me that the e-mail is from a list member. Don't your messages come to you with these headings? --Orig Message--From: liz Parmalee [mailto:[email protected] Friday, September 05, 2003 2:38 PM To: [email protected] Re: VANT mailing list created The confusion, I think, stems from the fact that when you get a message from the Oswego list, it does not identify itself as such, at least it doesn't on my computer. Liz -- Original Message --- From: "Lauren" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected] Friday, September 05, 2003 9:36 AM RE: VANT mailing list created > you are a member of the NYOswego mailing list right? Well Jerry wrote a message > 'to the list' (which means everybody on the list will get a copy) he wanted to > let people interested in the VANT surname know that a new list for that name > 'now' exists if they wish to sign up. Now do you understand? I don't understand > your confusion. > > --Orig Message----- From: Marilyn Bess [mailto:[email protected] Wed Sept 3 2003 6:39p > To: [email protected]m > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > > Yes. just what is this ,ailing list and how did you get my address to invite me to sign up. > ----- Original Message -----> From: "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected] Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:12 AM > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created >> > What is a VANT mailing list? >> > Ken > > My request has been granted and Rootsweb has started VANT mailing list. > You are all invited to sign up by sending a BLANK message to > > > [email protected] > > > put "subscribe" n the subject line. > > > Jerry Hale Deltona, FL > >> ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > > New York GenExchange http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny

This is the only mailing list I'm on that does not identify itself in the subject. I've always wondered why. I have ppprobably deleted many of them not even knowing they were from the Oswego list, since I don't like to open unknown messages. Whoever is responsible for this list should take some action to get that identification in the subject line as a courtesy to all of us. Jacquie

It *APPEARS* to be that every message from this list contains the following line near the bottom of the text area: > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:57 PM Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:00:28 -0400 "TreeWright" <[email protected]> > writes: > > You should at least get a subject line such as: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V03 > > #130. > > That subject line only appears on messages going to people who are on the > Digest form of the list. Many people like to receive emails one at a > time, and there is no identifying of them except by who they are > addressed to, and many email programs do not automatically show that. > > On the Digest, you can see the subjects that those of us on the regular > list see in our subject lines by scrolling through your list to the > individual mails. Subject lines are numbered, I believe. For example, the > subject on this particular email thread is "VANT mailing list created," > and that is what appears in our (those on the regular non-Digest list) > subject line. > > -Ellen > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I'm looking for a marriage record for Cyrus (Lafayette) Alford or Alfred to a Melvina, maiden name unknown, 22 Sept. 1851 in Oswego, NY. They had a son, Cyrus Jr. in 1852. Does anyone know if boatmen were overlooked in the Federal Censuses? I think Cyrus may have been one. Are there any other records of Oswego that I can check OnLine?? Thanks for your help! johnson

On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 14:00:28 -0400 "TreeWright" <[email protected]> writes: > You should at least get a subject line such as: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V03 > #130. That subject line only appears on messages going to people who are on the Digest form of the list. Many people like to receive emails one at a time, and there is no identifying of them except by who they are addressed to, and many email programs do not automatically show that. On the Digest, you can see the subjects that those of us on the regular list see in our subject lines by scrolling through your list to the individual mails. Subject lines are numbered, I believe. For example, the subject on this particular email thread is "VANT mailing list created," and that is what appears in our (those on the regular non-Digest list) subject line. -Ellen

I am sorry I do not get the NYOSWEGO heading when I receive my listings from them. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "TreeWright" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:00 PM Subject: RE: VANT mailing list created > You should at least get a subject line such as: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V03 > #130. > > -----Original Message----- > From: liz Parmalee [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > > The confusion, I think, stems from the fact that when you get a message > from > the Oswego list, it does not identify itself as such, at least it > doesn't on > my computer. > Liz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lauren" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:36 AM > Subject: RE: VANT mailing list created > > > > you are a member of the NYOswego mailing list right? Well Jerry wrote > a > message > > 'to the list' (which means everybody on the list will get a copy) he > wanted to > > let people interested in the VANT surname know that a new list for > that > name > > 'now' exists if they wish to sign up. Now do you understand? I don't > understand > > your confusion. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marilyn Bess [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:39 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > > > > > > Yes. just what is this ,ailing list and how did you get my address to > invite > > me to sign up. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:12 AM > > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > > > > > > > What is a VANT mailing list? > > > > > > Ken > > > > My request has been granted and Rootsweb has started > > > > VANT mailing list. > > > > > > > > You are all invited to sign up by sending a BLANK > > > > message to > > > > [email protected] > > > > put "subscribe" n the subject line. > > > > Jerry Hale > > > > Deltona, FL > > >> ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > > > New York GenExchange > > > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > > New York GenExchange > > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > Northern New York History and Genealogy > www.nnygenealogy.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

You should at least get a subject line such as: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V03 #130. -----Original Message----- From: liz Parmalee [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 2:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created The confusion, I think, stems from the fact that when you get a message from the Oswego list, it does not identify itself as such, at least it doesn't on my computer. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: RE: VANT mailing list created > you are a member of the NYOswego mailing list right? Well Jerry wrote a message > 'to the list' (which means everybody on the list will get a copy) he wanted to > let people interested in the VANT surname know that a new list for that name > 'now' exists if they wish to sign up. Now do you understand? I don't understand > your confusion. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marilyn Bess [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:39 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > > > Yes. just what is this ,ailing list and how did you get my address to invite > me to sign up. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:12 AM > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > > > > What is a VANT mailing list? > > > > Ken > > > My request has been granted and Rootsweb has started > > > VANT mailing list. > > > > > > You are all invited to sign up by sending a BLANK > > > message to > > > [email protected] > > > put "subscribe" n the subject line. > > > Jerry Hale > > > Deltona, FL > >> ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > > New York GenExchange > > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

ROOTSWEB REVIEW news is very, very good. It solves many problems and prevents problems by informing us of the best way to post our messages: Don't forget - these messages go all over the world. Our 'shorthand' way of talking is not only different than in other countries, but also different in other parts of our own country. They suggest noting cities AND states. And instead of assuming everyone reading the lists/boards ALREADY know what is going on, so consider that someone who sees a lists/board for the first time, is not already 'in the loop'. So writng in complete sentences is much better understood. Please check-in to receiving "Rootsweb Review". It's provided by the 'experts' in genealogy research. Hope this helps. johnson

The confusion, I think, stems from the fact that when you get a message from the Oswego list, it does not identify itself as such, at least it doesn't on my computer. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: RE: VANT mailing list created > you are a member of the NYOswego mailing list right? Well Jerry wrote a message > 'to the list' (which means everybody on the list will get a copy) he wanted to > let people interested in the VANT surname know that a new list for that name > 'now' exists if they wish to sign up. Now do you understand? I don't understand > your confusion. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marilyn Bess [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:39 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > > > Yes. just what is this ,ailing list and how did you get my address to invite > me to sign up. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:12 AM > Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > > > > What is a VANT mailing list? > > > > Ken > > > My request has been granted and Rootsweb has started > > > VANT mailing list. > > > > > > You are all invited to sign up by sending a BLANK > > > message to > > > [email protected] > > > put "subscribe" n the subject line. > > > Jerry Hale > > > Deltona, FL > >> ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > > New York GenExchange > > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

you are a member of the NYOswego mailing list right? Well Jerry wrote a message 'to the list' (which means everybody on the list will get a copy) he wanted to let people interested in the VANT surname know that a new list for that name 'now' exists if they wish to sign up. Now do you understand? I don't understand your confusion. -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Bess [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created Yes. just what is this ,ailing list and how did you get my address to invite me to sign up. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Everard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:12 AM Subject: Re: VANT mailing list created > What is a VANT mailing list? > > Ken > > My request has been granted and Rootsweb has started > > VANT mailing list. > > > > You are all invited to sign up by sending a BLANK > > message to > > [email protected] > > put "subscribe" n the subject line. > > Jerry Hale > > Deltona, FL >> ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny

To Michael Buell! Any relation to Rudy O. Buell? Regards, David in NW Fla.

For those who are concerned about the vandalism in the Lewis Cemetery, Town of Granby, Oswego Co, there is an update at www.fultondailynews.com Merry

Jim, I would like to volunteer to help. I am a secretary for NRG Energy, Inc. at the Oswego Harbor Power. I work Mon-Fri from 9a-1p. Let me know if you still need help. Thank you, Tina Crego ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hartigan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:25 PM Subject: INDEXING PROJECT for CNYGS County Packets > Dear Listers: > Wanted to bring to your attention that the Central New York Genealogical Society has about 47 more county packets that require various amounts of volunteer work from data entry, preproofing and final proofing prior to being placed on our website as a searchable index at no cost. Yes we are looking for volunteers who would like to know more about this. So far we have two counties complete with indexes on line and searchable. To see how they work go to: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycnygs > scrool down to NEW! and click on either county and do a search. I would like to hear you comments or questions. > A county packet is a compilation of over 41 years of pre-1860 abstracted data, taken from our Genealogical Periodical, "TREE TALKS". > Thank you, > Jim Hartigan > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Merry, Thanks for the update -- Mike Buell Fairport, NY > -----Original Message----- > From: Merry Gantley [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Fw: Lewis Cemetery > > > > > > For those who are concerned about the vandalism in the > Lewis Cemetery, > Town > of Granby, Oswego Co, > there is an update at www.fultondailynews.com > > Merry > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >