You have just heard from [email protected], who is one of the best assets any list could ever have. She has been of profound help to me in my research in the area, and has added substantially to this list with data she gathered and contributed. She is a tireless researcher who sees genealogy as a two-way street, and tries to return more data than she receives. Let's all count our blessings that we have such a subscriber to our list. She is someone I am proud to call "My Pal." Charly LaRobardier Belleville, IL

Hi list, I have to disagree with this comment that the lists are stagnant. I know that Laura Perkins for the Oswego Co. site has added much new information of late. I know because I helped with a very small portion of it. It is very hard for one person to gather all this info and put it online. Volunteers are needed to transcribe things in order to get them online. Perhaps if each person volunteered a week per month, transcribing information, and sending it to the webmaster for posting to the site, it would help more people. The webmasters of these sites have worked hard, but they too have lives, jobs and families and can not do it all alone. There are also the USGennet sites. This url is just for NY, but they also have other state lists. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/state/nycounties.html Not all are active because, again, people are needed to help. And as a non profit, needs funds to exist. http://www.usgennet.org/ (go down about 1/2 way on the page) see Services & Conditions & Open Books. I know I have personnally gone to great expense, buying history books, census, cemetery lists, surrogate files, etc. just to get information together, to get put online at my own sites .... FREE information, through USgennet. Free to those who go to view the sites, but many do not 'give back' and offer information that may help make more ancestor connections, or perhaps, just offer up information to help someone else, even if it isn't from your own line. How many have newspaper articles of ancestors and on that page there are other newspaper clippings of others? Every little bit helps, but not if we hold back the information. I do not know what is happening to the rootsweb lists, or why counties such as Yates Co., seems to have been "disconnected" for a while now, from any use at all. I don't know if this too is going to become a "pay to use" site or not. But I do know that not all sites are stagnant and some people are just busy, especially this time of year, with their personal lives. I am not supporting that ancestry (or any company) charges what they do, and buys up many sites of genealogy to have a monopoly, but volunteers to transcribe information ARE needed. TIME is needed - Your time to help add information to the "stagnated" sites. It is a give and take world. I'm just suggesting that everyone consider giving more of their time and energy and information, to help out and have some pride in what they have SHARED. Thanks for listening. Dianne Hello All Not only have I had few emails on this list,but on all the lists that I belong to..I too have been wondering what is going on..where are all the genealogists out there?The big thing that I have noticed...is all the sites are stagnant...no one is updating anything,USGEN WEB has the same old stuff...a few are excellent,but most are terrible,and give only basic info and are not serving their original purpose..it seems greed strikes again and everyone wants "fees'' ..it is going down the drain,as the purpose of these sites is to help each other..for instance when was the last time,the Saratoga site posted anything in the last two years...Oswego is one of the better sites for updating and helping,but even this site has slowed down...and then there is the $400 fee that Ancestry charges,as if all of us could afford that fee????.........guess we are going to have to revert back to snailmail to get info...>

Go to Ancestry.Com... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jefferson County NY" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:44 AM Subject: RE: [NYOSWEGO] email-stagnant > What is this about a fee at ancestry? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandy Miller [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:37 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NYOSWEGO] email-stagnant > > Hello All > Not only have I had few emails on this list,but on all the lists that I > belong to..I too have been wondering what is going on..where are all the > genealogists out there?The big thing that I have noticed...is all the sites > are stagnant...no one is updating anything,USGEN WEB has the same old > stuff...a few are excellent,but most are terrible,and give only basic info > and are not serving their original purpose..it seems greed strikes again and > everyone wants "fees'' ..it is going down the drain,as the purpose of these > sites is to help each other..for instance when was the last time,the > Saratoga site posted anything in the last two years...Oswego is one of the > better sites for updating and helping,but even this site has slowed > down...and then there is the $400 fee that Ancestry charges,as if all of us > could afford that fee????.........guess we are going to have to revert back > to snailmail to get info...sandy > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Just to say that I am now getting the NYOSWEGO, maybe we have all just been 'quiet" for awhile. carole in Texas

Check out our link and archived messages Just a slow month. All messages are archived at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/NYOSWEGO only found two emails not working anymore. Thanks bonnie -----Original Message----- From: Jefferson County NY [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NYOSWEGO] No Emails for sometime The list is still active. I am looking into the problem. Bonnie Shafer -----Original Message----- From: Russ [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOSWEGO] No Emails for sometime I received your note as a list subscriber. Maybe the list has been inactive? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOSWEGO] No Emails for sometime Hello All, This is a test, as I have not received any emails from this email address for sometime. Help! Diane ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== Oswego NYGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== Oswego NYGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== New York GenExchange http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

What is this about a fee at ancestry? -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Miller [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOSWEGO] email-stagnant Hello All Not only have I had few emails on this list,but on all the lists that I belong to..I too have been wondering what is going on..where are all the genealogists out there?The big thing that I have noticed...is all the sites are stagnant...no one is updating anything,USGEN WEB has the same old stuff...a few are excellent,but most are terrible,and give only basic info and are not serving their original purpose..it seems greed strikes again and everyone wants "fees'' ..it is going down the drain,as the purpose of these sites is to help each other..for instance when was the last time,the Saratoga site posted anything in the last two years...Oswego is one of the better sites for updating and helping,but even this site has slowed down...and then there is the $400 fee that Ancestry charges,as if all of us could afford that fee????.........guess we are going to have to revert back to snailmail to get info...sandy ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

The list is still active. I am looking into the problem. Bonnie Shafer -----Original Message----- From: Russ [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOSWEGO] No Emails for sometime I received your note as a list subscriber. Maybe the list has been inactive? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOSWEGO] No Emails for sometime Hello All, This is a test, as I have not received any emails from this email address for sometime. Help! Diane ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== Oswego NYGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== Oswego NYGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello All Not only have I had few emails on this list,but on all the lists that I belong to..I too have been wondering what is going on..where are all the genealogists out there?The big thing that I have noticed...is all the sites are stagnant...no one is updating anything,USGEN WEB has the same old stuff...a few are excellent,but most are terrible,and give only basic info and are not serving their original purpose..it seems greed strikes again and everyone wants "fees'' ..it is going down the drain,as the purpose of these sites is to help each other..for instance when was the last time,the Saratoga site posted anything in the last two years...Oswego is one of the better sites for updating and helping,but even this site has slowed down...and then there is the $400 fee that Ancestry charges,as if all of us could afford that fee????.........guess we are going to have to revert back to snailmail to get info...sandy

<A HREF="http://www.ogs.on.ca/">OGS</A> This is the Ontario Genealogical Society path, I was looking for some of my Canadian family within their records. While I was looking I did find my husband's grandfather's WWI military papers on line. Where he was born, the color of his eyes, next of kin and their address. This is a fun site to look through, Happy hunting, Diane

I received your note as a list subscriber. Maybe the list has been inactive? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOSWEGO] No Emails for sometime Hello All, This is a test, as I have not received any emails from this email address for sometime. Help! Diane ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== Oswego NYGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Diane, Now that you mentioned it, neither have I.. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:15 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] No Emails for sometime > Hello All, > > This is a test, as I have not received any emails from this email address for > sometime. > > Help! > Diane > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > Oswego NYGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I have'nt either thank you for bringing to my attention

Hello All, This is a test, as I have not received any emails from this email address for sometime. Help! Diane

The County Penitentiary was locted on Syracuse's north side behind and kitty corner to Assumption Currch & School, Etc., plus or minus. Jamesville was buit sometime aftr 1902. Jim Hartigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra S. Staley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Alanson Mott - state penitentiary > The only penitentiary I know of in or at least near Syracuse was the > Jamesville Penitentiary. The old building still stands, but there is a > new facility built on the east side of the property to house inmates > from Onondaga County presently. I do not believe that Jamesville was > ever a state facility. To the best of my knowledge, Jamesville has > always been a county facility. The nearest state correctional > institution would be (and would have been Auburn). Perhaps Alanson Mott > committed his crimes in Onondaga County? Hmmm, I would be interested in > knowing the outcome of this one! > > > > Debra Staley-Zimmerman > Old historians never die, they just past away! > > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ >

Jim writes: << The balance of the packets are being indexed by a large group of volunteers and each index will appear at http//:www.rootsweb.com/~nycnygs so that you can make a more informed puchase decision, or take a chance that you will know you covered additional sources in the proce! >> There was a typo in the URL... Try: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycnygs But it says the index was last updated 3 Nov 2002... I hope you will let us know when they update the index. Blessings, Joanne

OHA Holdings may be found at:nysl.nysed.gov Choose HDI Enter Onondaga Historrical Association {852} and your search term Lib. of Congress bibliographic catalogue: http://lcweb.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/rlinsearch.html Also Central New York Genealogical Society Http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycnygs Happy thanksgiving,The County packets contain all pre-1860 abstracted primary & secondary source records like Bible, Marriage, Ministerial,, Newspaper, Letters testamentary,wills, guardianships, notebooks, letters of admin., Baptismal,, deaths, cemetery, doctors and ministers day book records, to name most. The fact that ther are 48 conties in upstate NY with county packets and that thet straddle all the upstate migration routes, speaks for itself. You get any of the info abstracted from 1961 thru the current issue of "TREE TALKS". The price is determined by the quantity of data contained in the packet. I do not know of any other treasure like this covering one of our nations premiere migratory states. The balance of the packets are being indexed by a large group of volunteers and each index will appear at http//:www.rootsweb.com/~nycnygs so that you can make a more informed puchase decision, or take a chance that you will know you covered additional sources in the proce! ss! Jim Hartigan, member, CNYGS

Many of these people might be listed in the SSDI (Social Security Death Index) if they ever applied for social security and died after 1960. Go to www.rootsweb.com, scroll down a bit and look for the link for 'social security death index.' You can research old papers on microfilm. Go to google.com and search 'ny state newspaper project'. A link will display for a site that lists old NY state papers available for interlibrary loan. If you are not familiar with interlibrary loan read that section at the site. It's a bit of a long shot but you can try the online 'obituary daily times' which also has a link on the home page at www.rootsweb.com. Hope this helps - Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOSWEGO] George Allen Fire Chief in Fulton I am looking for information regarding the George & Grace Allen family of Fulton. 1920 Census, 218 South Second Street, Fulton: Allen, George 25 chauffeur, steel mill Allen, Grace 23 wife Allen, Robert 3 & 9/12 Allen, Dorothy 2 & 4/12 Hammond, Ellen 68, widowed, mother in law 1930 Census, 413 West Third Street: Allen, George 36 City Fireman Allen, Grace 35 Allen, Robert 13 Allen, Dorothy 12 Allen, Paul 8 Allen, June 5 Allen, Mary 6 (?) Allen, Margaret 3 Allen, Lucia 11/12 Other children after the 1930 Census: Donald, David & John (Jack), not sure if there were more or not. I have dates of death for: Dorothy Bock (12/15/1997 - Fulton - no obit though), Paul Allen (3/23/1996 - Alabama), June (Judy) Peterson (6/3/2001 - Alaska - no obit though), Mary Van Sanford (10/18/1997 - B'ville), Lucia Jones (2/9/1997 - Fulton), and Donald Allen (8/30/1998 - Oswego). I cannot locate a date of death for George Allen, Grace Allen, Robert Allen, Margaret Allen, or Ellen Hammond. I have no idea if David or John (Jack) are still alive or not. Thank you for whatever information you may have Anne ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== Oswego NYGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

A little trick taught me if you are useing Outlook for your email. High light email letter and press control F3 and the whole letter will open up. Sandy _________________________________________________________________ >From the hottest toys to tips on keeping fit this winter, you’ll find a range of helpful holiday info here. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx

I am looking for information regarding the George & Grace Allen family of Fulton. 1920 Census, 218 South Second Street, Fulton: Allen, George 25 chauffeur, steel mill Allen, Grace 23 wife Allen, Robert 3 & 9/12 Allen, Dorothy 2 & 4/12 Hammond, Ellen 68, widowed, mother in law 1930 Census, 413 West Third Street: Allen, George 36 City Fireman Allen, Grace 35 Allen, Robert 13 Allen, Dorothy 12 Allen, Paul 8 Allen, June 5 Allen, Mary 6 (?) Allen, Margaret 3 Allen, Lucia 11/12 Other children after the 1930 Census: Donald, David & John (Jack), not sure if there were more or not. I have dates of death for: Dorothy Bock (12/15/1997 - Fulton - no obit though), Paul Allen (3/23/1996 - Alabama), June (Judy) Peterson (6/3/2001 - Alaska - no obit though), Mary Van Sanford (10/18/1997 - B'ville), Lucia Jones (2/9/1997 - Fulton), and Donald Allen (8/30/1998 - Oswego). I cannot locate a date of death for George Allen, Grace Allen, Robert Allen, Margaret Allen, or Ellen Hammond. I have no idea if David or John (Jack) are still alive or not. Thank you for whatever information you may have Anne

I thought to send this for anyone who may have ancestors in the 117th NY Vol, and not aware that Enlistment and Declaration of Intent papers are accessible and printable online at the Hamilton College, Clinton, NY website. They also have reunion booklets, letters from a soldier, Journal, and more. Its wonderful to have a copy of them, which also list some physical features like height and the guardians name if the soldier was under age. Below is the main page and direct link. Laura http://clrc.org/digital/digindex.shtml http://library.hamilton.edu/collections/civil_war/go.php?scrid=117th