Wonderful news !!!! . A WELL DESERVED award. All the best to you Barb. Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] News on Historian December 04, 2003 HISTORIAN WHO LOST JOB IN BUDGET CUTS WINS STATE AWARD OSWEGO (AP) - Barb Dix lost her job as county historian in August because of budget cuts. This week, the state Board of Regents named the 69-year-old Dix New York State Local Historian of the Year. Dix will become a member of the state education commissioner's Local History Advisory Council, said Carole Huxley, deputy commissioner for cultural education at the state Education Department. The council advises education Commissioner Richard Mills on services to local history, Huxley said. Dix spent 12 years as the Oswego County historian. She also served 21 years as a village and town historian and helped form the Association of Public Historians of New York State. "She clearly cares very much about New York and her part of New York, so we were clearly very impressed," Huxley said. "It's a very rich history so it deserves attention, and we want to honor people like her who bring that attention to the public." In August, the county administrator eliminated 69 positions, including Dix's job, to save the county $2 million as it copes with a fiscal crisis and tries to avoid a 43-percent tax increase. In November, Dix challenged an incumbent and fell short in a write-in campaign for a county legislative seat. >Just thought you might like to know. >Marilyn Rowsey Dirk >VP Oswego County Genealogy Society ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== Oswego NYGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/03

How wonderful to read the accomplishments that Barbara Dix has achieved and the recognition she surely deserves. Good going, Barbara. Carole in Texas

Hello Laura, Thank you for the inforamtion. It is just what I needed. I was confusing the father and son, because of same names and occupations. Your info' and Captain Williams' obituary have put me on the right track. Capt. Williams' wife, Jessie Geekie, was sister to my great-grandfather Charles Willard Geekie. The Geekie family had come from Perth, Scotland in early 1800s and settled first in Oswego. Charles moved to Balitmore where he was a successful business man. I have documented his family; now working on siblings. The sites you suggested are excellent. Thank you. Faye Orange Park, Florida

Marilyn, Please send Barbara Dix my Best Wishes and Congratulations!! Laura Perkins Oswego Co GenWeb Marilyn wrote: > December 04, 2003 > HISTORIAN WHO LOST JOB IN BUDGET CUTS WINS STATE AWARD > > OSWEGO (AP) - Barb Dix lost her job as county historian in August >because of budget cuts. > > This week, the state Board of Regents named the 69-year-old Dix New >York State Local Historian of the Year. > > Dix will become a member of the state education commissioner's Local >History Advisory Council, said Carole Huxley, deputy commissioner for >cultural education at the state Education Department. The council advises >education Commissioner Richard Mills on services to local history, Huxley >said. > > Dix spent 12 years as the Oswego County historian. She also served 21 >years as a village and town historian and helped form the Association of >Public Historians of New York State. > > "She clearly cares very much about New York and her part of New York, >so we were clearly very impressed," Huxley said. "It's a very rich history >so it deserves attention, and we want to honor people like her who bring >that attention to the public." > > In August, the county administrator eliminated 69 positions, including >Dix's job, to save the county $2 million as it copes with a fiscal crisis >and tries to avoid a 43-percent tax increase. > > In November, Dix challenged an incumbent and fell short in a write-in >campaign for a county legislative seat. > > > >Just thought you might like to know. > > >Marilyn Rowsey Dirk > > >VP Oswego County Genealogy Society > > > > >==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== >Oswego NYGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

December 04, 2003 HISTORIAN WHO LOST JOB IN BUDGET CUTS WINS STATE AWARD OSWEGO (AP) - Barb Dix lost her job as county historian in August because of budget cuts. This week, the state Board of Regents named the 69-year-old Dix New York State Local Historian of the Year. Dix will become a member of the state education commissioner's Local History Advisory Council, said Carole Huxley, deputy commissioner for cultural education at the state Education Department. The council advises education Commissioner Richard Mills on services to local history, Huxley said. Dix spent 12 years as the Oswego County historian. She also served 21 years as a village and town historian and helped form the Association of Public Historians of New York State. "She clearly cares very much about New York and her part of New York, so we were clearly very impressed," Huxley said. "It's a very rich history so it deserves attention, and we want to honor people like her who bring that attention to the public." In August, the county administrator eliminated 69 positions, including Dix's job, to save the county $2 million as it copes with a fiscal crisis and tries to avoid a 43-percent tax increase. In November, Dix challenged an incumbent and fell short in a write-in campaign for a county legislative seat. >Just thought you might like to know. >Marilyn Rowsey Dirk >VP Oswego County Genealogy Society

I agee. Ancestry let you decide which kind of records you want to see. My bill is a lot less than 400 dollars. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:08 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Re: NYOSWEGO-D Digest V03 #200 > Did not know that Ancestry charges $400.00 now. My last statement must have > been wrong for I paid a lot less. Please check again to let us all know if the > $400.00 is correct. > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > Oswego NYGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Faye, I'm sorry, but reading the obituary date I realized he must be William H. Williams father as stated further down. Perhaps some of the other sites will have information on him. There is also Richard Palmer, a Maritime contributor and expert on the Great LakesMaritime history. Hopefully he will see your email and respond. His most recent email I have no longer works. Laura [email protected] wrote: >Hello Listers. > I am searching for information about Captain William H. Williams, a >captain on the Great Lakes. He worked for the Northern Navigation Company for >almost 50 years. Captain Williams lived in Oswego on Seneca Street, but died in >Detroit, Mich in 1921. Are there any sites for the Great Lakes and related >history that may be of help? I can't seem to locate any. Any Williams family still >in Oswego? >Faye > > >==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== >Oswego NYGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

Faye, Captain Williams long obituary is listed on the maritime link below and lots more Maritime information can be found at the other sites listed. Laura Oswego Co Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ Obituary of Captain William Williams on the Oswego County site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/obits/obits4maritime.html Maritime History of the Great Lakes http://www.hhpl.on.ca/greatlakes/ Downward Bound, Honoring Those Who Worked the Great Lakes http://www.mfhn.com/glsdb/index.html Harbors and Ports of Lake Ontario http://www.hhpl.on.ca/GreatLakes/documents/Hodder/figures.asp?ID=f09 [email protected] wrote: >Hello Listers. > I am searching for information about Captain William H. Williams, a >captain on the Great Lakes. He worked for the Northern Navigation Company for >almost 50 years. Captain Williams lived in Oswego on Seneca Street, but died in >Detroit, Mich in 1921. Are there any sites for the Great Lakes and related >history that may be of help? I can't seem to locate any. Any Williams family still >in Oswego? >Faye > > >==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== >Oswego NYGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

Hello Listers. I am searching for information about Captain William H. Williams, a captain on the Great Lakes. He worked for the Northern Navigation Company for almost 50 years. Captain Williams lived in Oswego on Seneca Street, but died in Detroit, Mich in 1921. Are there any sites for the Great Lakes and related history that may be of help? I can't seem to locate any. Any Williams family still in Oswego? Faye

THANK YOU

what 400 hundred dollar fee from Ancestry?? -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Miller [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOSWEGO] email-stagnant Hello All Not only have I had few emails on this list,but on all the lists that I belong to..I too have been wondering what is going on..where are all the genealogists out there?The big thing that I have noticed...is all the sites are stagnant...no one is updating anything,USGEN WEB has the same old stuff...a few are excellent,but most are terrible,and give only basic info and are not serving their original purpose..it seems greed strikes again and everyone wants "fees'' ..it is going down the drain,as the purpose of these sites is to help each other..for instance when was the last time,the Saratoga site posted anything in the last two years...Oswego is one of the better sites for updating and helping,but even this site has slowed down...and then there is the $400 fee that Ancestry charges,as if all of us could afford that fee????.........guess we are going to have to revert back to snailmail to get info...sandy ______________________________

Just to add a slight correction to this, the actual path you would put into your browser window is: www.ogs.on.ca The rest is html which you would not enter into your browser address area. Russ Sprague Kensington, Maryland -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOSWEGO] Check out Ontario Genealogical Society <A HREF="http://www.ogs.on.ca/">OGS</A> This is the Ontario Genealogical Society path, I was looking for some of my Canadian family within their records. While I was looking I did find my husband's grandfather's WWI military papers on line. Where he was born, the color of his eyes, next of kin and their address. This is a fun site to look through, Happy hunting, Diane ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== List Administrator Bonita Shafer Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com [email protected] ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Did not know that Ancestry charges $400.00 now. My last statement must have been wrong for I paid a lot less. Please check again to let us all know if the $400.00 is correct.

you to betty have a great xmas and new year. just a friend Judy

Is the 400 dollars something to do with being the administer of the list and "owning" it? Just curious. Liz Parmalee ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. J. Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:36 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] mail on this list > What is the $400. ancestry.com fee? They have different level > memberships, starting at about 39.95. They support rootsweb.com, which > is free. I do a lot of research with these two. If no one is posting to > a mailing list, guess there won't be mail. I've been receiving all of > the lists I belong to, inc. NYOswego-D, on a regular basis. > > johnson > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > New York GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.com/state.cfm?state=ny > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Fellow researchers Do not misunderstand,all of us that have been researching for many years are THANKFUL to all those who have been kind and shared their data for all of us,and we realize all of us have other lives,but when someone takes on these massive lists,it incur's alot of time and hard work...but as I said there are thousands of us out here,where is everyone that they to are not sharing,and we all know there are sites,that are ran by Society's and they are trying to sell their books and are giving little to the site itself..this is one of the type of things that are harming the joy of research..I to have helped transcribe,to give back for all the free leads I have come across....nothing is free...if we can't give money,all of us can give a little time,and time for many of us is money...

What is the $400. ancestry.com fee? They have different level memberships, starting at about 39.95. They support rootsweb.com, which is free. I do a lot of research with these two. If no one is posting to a mailing list, guess there won't be mail. I've been receiving all of the lists I belong to, inc. NYOswego-D, on a regular basis. johnson

> Hello All > > Not only have I had few emails on this list,but on all the lists > that I belong to.. Over the years, I have noticed that during this time of year, all lists tend to get slow (genealogy, parenting, homeschooling, rural living, homesteading, computer lists; it doesn't matter which list). I think family events and the holidays during late November and all of December just take a lot of the time that people put into interacting on lists. Warm regards to all, Ellen

I agree. I have been interested in genealogy for about 2 years now, and I think it is important to give a little back. This past month, I typed a transcript of a cemetery and I posted a picture of a tombstone on private property in the woods that was no relation of mine, but I thought would be interesting to someone else. I was right. I had three people ask me about the photo and two were related to the fellow who was buried. The third is going to post the picture on his website. You don't have to do a lot to make a difference. Liz Parmalee ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Thomas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 4:12 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] disagree with stagnant comment > Hi list, > > > I have to disagree with this comment that the lists are stagnant. I know that Laura Perkins for the Oswego Co. site has added much new information of late. I know because I helped with a very small portion of it. It is very hard for one person to gather all this info and put it online. Volunteers are needed to transcribe things in order to get them online. Perhaps if each person volunteered a week per month, transcribing information, and sending it to the webmaster for posting to the site, it would help more people. The webmasters of these sites have worked hard, but they too have lives, jobs and families and can not do it all alone. > > There are also the USGennet sites. This url is just for NY, but they also have other state lists. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/state/nycounties.html > Not all are active because, again, people are needed to help. And as a non profit, needs funds to exist. > http://www.usgennet.org/ (go down about 1/2 way on the page) see Services & Conditions & Open Books. > > I know I have personnally gone to great expense, buying history books, census, cemetery lists, surrogate files, etc. just to get information together, to get put online at my own sites .... FREE information, through USgennet. Free to those who go to view the sites, but many do not 'give back' and offer information that may help make more ancestor connections, or perhaps, just offer up information to help someone else, even if it isn't from your own line. How many have newspaper articles of ancestors and on that page there are other newspaper clippings of others? Every little bit helps, but not if we hold back the information. > > I do not know what is happening to the rootsweb lists, or why counties such as Yates Co., seems to have been "disconnected" for a while now, from any use at all. I don't know if this too is going to become a "pay to use" site or not. But I do know that not all sites are stagnant and some people are just busy, especially this time of year, with their personal lives. > > I am not supporting that ancestry (or any company) charges what they do, and buys up many sites of genealogy to have a monopoly, but volunteers to transcribe information ARE needed. TIME is needed - Your time to help add information to the "stagnated" sites. It is a give and take world. I'm just suggesting that everyone consider giving more of their time and energy and information, to help out and have some pride in what they have SHARED. > > Thanks for listening. > Dianne > > > > Hello All > Not only have I had few emails on this list,but on all the lists that I belong to..I too have been wondering what is going on..where are all the genealogists out there?The big thing that I have noticed...is all the sites are stagnant...no one is updating anything,USGEN WEB has the same old stuff...a few are excellent,but most are terrible,and give only basic info and are not serving their original purpose..it seems greed strikes again and everyone wants "fees'' ..it is going down the drain,as the purpose of these sites is to help each other..for instance when was the last time,the Saratoga site posted anything in the last two years...Oswego is one of the better sites for updating and helping,but even this site has slowed down...and then there is the $400 fee that Ancestry charges,as if all of us could afford that fee????.........guess we are going to have to revert back to snailmail to get info...> > > > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > List Administrator Bonita Shafer > Northern New York Genealogy - http://www.nnygenealogy.com > [email protected] > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I am not paying Ancestry .com for information and I agree there is not much on any of the sites. I was glad to help anyone with any information I had and I still am. I have researched the LaRobardiere, Montclair, Roy and Belmore families and if I can be of any help to anyone please write to me @ > [email protected]<. Have a wonderful day and a happy holiday season. Betty