I'm stuck at Joseph Conklin born ca. 1775, so I don't know which Conklins I'm related to before then. Most of the time I end up having to make assumptions then having to try to prove them. There are so many Conklins to choose from, however, that I wouldn't even know where to start with an uneducated guess. Chris [email protected] On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 07:10:21 -0400 "Suzanne Wade" <[email protected]> writes: > Hi Chris, > Appreciate your detailed info on Conklin/Halsey lines! Do you > happen to > relate to or have info re: a Daniel Conklin(b. 1765 East Hampton, > Long > Island NY) who mar an Isabel Lusk 1791 in Suffolk Co. NY? Believe > his > parents were Daniel and Abigail (Parsons) Conklin. On another line, > have a > possible Elizabeth Conklin (or Cornell) who mar an Isaac Travis bef > 1787 > Pleasant Valley, Dutchess Co.NY. Trying to figure out who Eliz > parent's > were. Will definitely look up the book you cite, and appreciate the > reference! > Suzanne in TN > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Chris Miasnik > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 11:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] Conklin-Monell > > Hi Ann, > > Wow! What a nice quick answer. I live in Salt Lake County, so I > have > access to the FHL. There I discovered, just by chance!, the book > "Personal > Records of the Brick Presbyterian Church in NYC 1809-1908" (FHL > Book US/CAN 974.71 K28k). I had been going on the possibility > that > Jennett's last name was Halsey because of the naming patterns with > the two > known Joseph Halseys in the family (Joseph Halsey Conklin and Joseph > Halsey > Ryan, being namesakes I'm sure for the Revolutionary War General > Joseph > Halsey. And did you know that famed Admiral Halsey from the Pacific > Theater > in World War II is also a decendant from the General?). > The Brick book did not give Jennett's maiden name, but showed > birthdates and > baptism dates for three of their children. > > But following advice to focus on the Presbyterian records in NYC, I > learned > about Brick's "spin-off" from First Presbyterian. So working > backwards from > 1809 when the split-off took place in First Presbyterian's records > (FHL > microfilms 1017607, 08, & 09) I found the two December 7, > 1804 baptisms. I almost passed it off because I was looking for a > Joseph > Conklin and Jennett Halsey, and this said Jennett Monell, a last > name I have > never heard before. But something stopped me dead in my tracks and > said go > back, this is it. A Joseph Conklin-Jennett anything was too > uncommon to > just brush aside. I knew of the rarity of the combination because I > had > compiled a spreadsheet for all NYC Conklins from the city > directories > spanning from 1784 to 1845. > > I found Baker's book Monell Genealogy on-line, I think through > Ancestry, and > there was able to learn what I have learned about the Monell family. > > Though I don't have concrete proof yet that Joseph and Jennett > Monell > Conklin are the parents of my 3ggm Caroline M. Conklin Ryan, and > that > Jennett is the daughter of Lt. James Monell of Orange Co., I believe > that my > assumptions about the formation of these family lines are the best > ones that > have been postulated despite the presence of final confirming > information. > > I appreciate your interest! Hope to hear again from you soon. > > Chris > [email protected] > > > > On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:03:28 -0400 "Ann Brown" > <[email protected]> > writes: > > Chris, > > > > I am connected to the Halsey's at 1st Presby of NYC and had some > of > > the Halsey's buried in the Brick Church yard and were moved to the > > > Halsey Tumb at the Marble Cemetery. My line of girls were John > Cook's > > Daughters, Jamima Cook Halsey wife of Jacob Halsey and Ann Cook > Sloat > > wife of Peter Slote (printer) of NYC Where did you find your info > > > about the 2 churches in NYC ? > > > > Ann Brown > > > > > > On 6/16/07, Chris Miasnik <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I'm new to this list and thought maybe someone here might have > > additional > > > information on a recent find. I believe my 4th gg parents were > > Joseph > > > Conklin and Jennett Monell of NYC. Jennette Monell might have > > been the > > > daughter of Lt. James Monell and Sarah Janet Graham who had > their > > origins > > > around Wallkill and Montgomery. As far as I can determine, > they > > were the > > > only Monell family who moved from Orange Co. ca. 1785-1790 to > NYC > > , so if > > > there were any Monell descendants in NYC in the erly 1800s, > James > > and > > > Sarah were the likely source. > > > > > > I found a Joseph and Jennett Conklin at the Brick Presbyterian > > Church in > > > NYC between 1811 and 1814. Then I found them earlier with > > Jennett's > > > maiden name of Monell in 1804 at First Presbyterian in NYC, > from > > which > > > Brick had split off in 1809. Joseph and Jennett had a > daughter, > > Adeline > > > Conklin, baptized the same day at First Presbyterian as her > > probable > > > sister, Elizabeth Monell Morris (wife of Robert Morris) had > their > > own > > > daughter, Sarah Ann Morris, baptized (7 Dec 1804). > > > > > > Does anyone have any records showing the Conklins and Monells > > marrying in > > > either Orange Co., or in NYC? I think it's Joseph's side from > > which the > > > Halsey name comes into play, but am not positive. Conklins > with > > the name > > > Halsey are predominately from NJ and Orange Co. > > > > > > In Baker's book Monell Genealogy, he speculated on a spinster > > named > > > Jennett Monell being a daughter of Lt. James Monell (due to > > Elizabeth > > > Monell Morris' 1848 petition for a war pension based on her > > father's > > > service. There was a Jennett Monell who signed as a witness to > > the > > > petition, but "my" Jennett would have already been a widow > under > > the name > > > Jennett Conklin. The spinster Jennett (b. abt 1774, of > Newburgh) > > was > > > probably a daughter of Lt. Robert Monell (wife was Isabella > > Graham), > > > brother to "my" Lt. James Monell. Baker had secondarily > > speculated about > > > the spinster Jennett-Lt. Robert tie. Baker just guessed wrong > by > > picking > > > Lt. James as the spinster's father instead. > > > So: > > > > > > James Monell, b. abt 1743, Wallkill, m. Sarah Janet Graham, > Orange > > Co., > > > b. abt 1751, (James' parents were George Monell and Jeanet > Wherry; > > you'll > > > see the Jennett pattern) > > > Children: > > > Charles Monell, b. 1775, m. Mary Bogart Elizabeth Monell, b. > 1777, > > > m. ca. 1797 Robert Morris, b. 1773, Farmingdale, Monmouth, NJ > > > Jennett Monell, b. abt 1780, m. Joseph Conklin (poss. 4ggps) > James > > > Monell, b. 1786, NYC, m. Charlotte Smith > > > > > > Joseph Conklin, b. ca. 1775, died bef 1820, and Jennett Monell, > b. > > ca. > > > 1780, m. ca.1800 > > > Children: > > > Adeline Conklin, born 29 Apr 1803, chr. 7 Dec 1804, 1st > > Presbyterian, NYC > > > Joseph Halsey Conklin, b. 25 Nov 1807, chr. 16 June 1813/4 Brick > > > > Presbyterian, NYC Eliza Tileman (Talman?) Conklin, b. 31 Mar > 1810, > > > chr. 16 June > > 1813/4 > > > Brick Presbyterian, NYC, > > > Phebe Wallace Conklin, b. 18 June 1812, chr. 16 June 1813/4 > Brick > > > Presbyterian, NYC prob. Caroline M. (?Monell?) Conklin, b. abt > 1819, > > > NYC (my 3 ggm, > > for > > > whose record of birth baptism I am also searching) > > > > > > Patrick Ryan, 1808, Ireland, m. Caroline M. Conklin in abt. > 1837, > > prob. > > > NYC. > > > Children: > > > Morris Henry Ryan, b. 1838, NYC > > > William Webb Ryan, b. 1841, NYC (2ggf) Caroline Janette Ryan, b. > > > > 1843, NYC Joseph Halsey Ryan, b. 1846, NYC Edward Pise Ryan, b. > > > > 1848, NYC Mary Eliza Ryan, b. 1851, NYC George Washington Ryan, > b. > > > 1854, NYC > > > > > > Please let me know if anyone can now tie me in to a specific > > branch. > > > > > > Chris Miasnik > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Ann Brown " Cookie" > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >