Thanks for the FYI tip -- will check it out. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marge Clark Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 7:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] Conklin-Monell If you go to Ancestry and search by keyword Monell you will find quite a bit of information on the family there. Don't know if this will help or not, just an FYI. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Wade" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] Conklin-Monell > Hi Chris, > Appreciate your detailed info on Conklin/Halsey lines! Do you happen to > relate to or have info re: a Daniel Conklin(b. 1765 East Hampton, Long > Island NY) who mar an Isabel Lusk 1791 in Suffolk Co. NY? Believe his > parents were Daniel and Abigail (Parsons) Conklin. On another line, have > a > possible Elizabeth Conklin (or Cornell) who mar an Isaac Travis bef 1787 > Pleasant Valley, Dutchess Co.NY. Trying to figure out who Eliz parent's > were. Will definitely look up the book you cite, and appreciate the > reference! > Suzanne in TN > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Chris Miasnik > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 11:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] Conklin-Monell > > Hi Ann, > > Wow! What a nice quick answer. I live in Salt Lake County, so I have > access to the FHL. There I discovered, just by chance!, the book > "Personal > Records of the Brick Presbyterian Church in NYC 1809-1908" (FHL > Book US/CAN 974.71 K28k). I had been going on the possibility that > Jennett's last name was Halsey because of the naming patterns with the two > known Joseph Halseys in the family (Joseph Halsey Conklin and Joseph > Halsey > Ryan, being namesakes I'm sure for the Revolutionary War General Joseph > Halsey. And did you know that famed Admiral Halsey from the Pacific > Theater > in World War II is also a decendant from the General?). > The Brick book did not give Jennett's maiden name, but showed birthdates > and > baptism dates for three of their children. > > But following advice to focus on the Presbyterian records in NYC, I > learned > about Brick's "spin-off" from First Presbyterian. So working backwards > from > 1809 when the split-off took place in First Presbyterian's records (FHL > microfilms 1017607, 08, & 09) I found the two December 7, > 1804 baptisms. I almost passed it off because I was looking for a Joseph > Conklin and Jennett Halsey, and this said Jennett Monell, a last name I > have > never heard before. But something stopped me dead in my tracks and said > go > back, this is it. A Joseph Conklin-Jennett anything was too uncommon to > just brush aside. I knew of the rarity of the combination because I had > compiled a spreadsheet for all NYC Conklins from the city directories > spanning from 1784 to 1845. > > I found Baker's book Monell Genealogy on-line, I think through Ancestry, > and > there was able to learn what I have learned about the Monell family. > Though I don't have concrete proof yet that Joseph and Jennett Monell > Conklin are the parents of my 3ggm Caroline M. Conklin Ryan, and that > Jennett is the daughter of Lt. James Monell of Orange Co., I believe that > my > assumptions about the formation of these family lines are the best ones > that > have been postulated despite the presence of final confirming information. > > I appreciate your interest! Hope to hear again from you soon. > > Chris > [email protected] > > > > On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:03:28 -0400 "Ann Brown" <[email protected]> > writes: >> Chris, >> >> I am connected to the Halsey's at 1st Presby of NYC and had some of >> the Halsey's buried in the Brick Church yard and were moved to the >> Halsey Tumb at the Marble Cemetery. My line of girls were John Cook's >> Daughters, Jamima Cook Halsey wife of Jacob Halsey and Ann Cook Sloat >> wife of Peter Slote (printer) of NYC Where did you find your info >> about the 2 churches in NYC ? >> >> Ann Brown >> >> >> On 6/16/07, Chris Miasnik <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > I'm new to this list and thought maybe someone here might have >> additional >> > information on a recent find. I believe my 4th gg parents were >> Joseph >> > Conklin and Jennett Monell of NYC. Jennette Monell might have >> been the >> > daughter of Lt. James Monell and Sarah Janet Graham who had their >> origins >> > around Wallkill and Montgomery. As far as I can determine, they >> were the >> > only Monell family who moved from Orange Co. ca. 1785-1790 to NYC >> , so if >> > there were any Monell descendants in NYC in the erly 1800s, James >> and >> > Sarah were the likely source. >> > >> > I found a Joseph and Jennett Conklin at the Brick Presbyterian >> Church in >> > NYC between 1811 and 1814. Then I found them earlier with >> Jennett's >> > maiden name of Monell in 1804 at First Presbyterian in NYC, from >> which >> > Brick had split off in 1809. Joseph and Jennett had a daughter, >> Adeline >> > Conklin, baptized the same day at First Presbyterian as her >> probable >> > sister, Elizabeth Monell Morris (wife of Robert Morris) had their >> own >> > daughter, Sarah Ann Morris, baptized (7 Dec 1804). >> > >> > Does anyone have any records showing the Conklins and Monells >> marrying in >> > either Orange Co., or in NYC? I think it's Joseph's side from >> which the >> > Halsey name comes into play, but am not positive. Conklins with >> the name >> > Halsey are predominately from NJ and Orange Co. >> > >> > In Baker's book Monell Genealogy, he speculated on a spinster >> named >> > Jennett Monell being a daughter of Lt. James Monell (due to >> Elizabeth >> > Monell Morris' 1848 petition for a war pension based on her >> father's >> > service. There was a Jennett Monell who signed as a witness to >> the >> > petition, but "my" Jennett would have already been a widow under >> the name >> > Jennett Conklin. The spinster Jennett (b. abt 1774, of Newburgh) >> was >> > probably a daughter of Lt. Robert Monell (wife was Isabella >> Graham), >> > brother to "my" Lt. James Monell. Baker had secondarily >> speculated about >> > the spinster Jennett-Lt. Robert tie. Baker just guessed wrong by >> picking >> > Lt. James as the spinster's father instead. >> > So: >> > >> > James Monell, b. abt 1743, Wallkill, m. Sarah Janet Graham, Orange >> Co., >> > b. abt 1751, (James' parents were George Monell and Jeanet Wherry; >> you'll >> > see the Jennett pattern) >> > Children: >> > Charles Monell, b. 1775, m. Mary Bogart Elizabeth Monell, b. 1777, >> > m. ca. 1797 Robert Morris, b. 1773, Farmingdale, Monmouth, NJ >> > Jennett Monell, b. abt 1780, m. Joseph Conklin (poss. 4ggps) James >> > Monell, b. 1786, NYC, m. Charlotte Smith >> > >> > Joseph Conklin, b. ca. 1775, died bef 1820, and Jennett Monell, b. >> ca. >> > 1780, m. ca.1800 >> > Children: >> > Adeline Conklin, born 29 Apr 1803, chr. 7 Dec 1804, 1st >> Presbyterian, NYC >> > Joseph Halsey Conklin, b. 25 Nov 1807, chr. 16 June 1813/4 Brick >> > Presbyterian, NYC Eliza Tileman (Talman?) Conklin, b. 31 Mar 1810, >> > chr. 16 June >> 1813/4 >> > Brick Presbyterian, NYC, >> > Phebe Wallace Conklin, b. 18 June 1812, chr. 16 June 1813/4 Brick >> > Presbyterian, NYC prob. Caroline M. (?Monell?) Conklin, b. abt 1819, >> > NYC (my 3 ggm, >> for >> > whose record of birth baptism I am also searching) >> > >> > Patrick Ryan, 1808, Ireland, m. Caroline M. Conklin in abt. 1837, >> prob. >> > NYC. >> > Children: >> > Morris Henry Ryan, b. 1838, NYC >> > William Webb Ryan, b. 1841, NYC (2ggf) Caroline Janette Ryan, b. >> > 1843, NYC Joseph Halsey Ryan, b. 1846, NYC Edward Pise Ryan, b. >> > 1848, NYC Mary Eliza Ryan, b. 1851, NYC George Washington Ryan, b. >> > 1854, NYC >> > >> > Please let me know if anyone can now tie me in to a specific >> branch. >> > >> > Chris Miasnik >> > [email protected] >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Ann Brown " Cookie" >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message