Since I can't ask for all McKinney's I'll pare it to two: Timothy McKinney born about 1786 Ichabod McKinney boarn about 1789 To the question about Demarests who don't show on either Orange or Ulster census index until 1800 I answer that my McKinney/Demarest connections are later (that I know of) but are in/from Bergen Co, NJ. I would check in minisink - Sussex Co NJ. The 3 States PA NY NJ families were back & forth normally. But Bergen County NJ is where I'd focus. ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail