Susan, Not that I know of but there come in to the picture a few years later in Ontario co, Phoebe Will check it out further...also maybe thru the Runyons of NJ. In a message dated 3/29/2007 12:23:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Phoebe, Any chance that you might have Drakes in your group of Carpenters, Vails and Thompsons? I have a Francis Drake b. ca 1801 married to a Carpenter. Thompsons seem to be associated with this line as cousins. Susan in Tornado Alley ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.