If this is any help:   The funeral ol John McAllister. The body of John McAllister, who died in Virginia last Monday, will arrive in this village this evening on the way-train. The funeral will take place to-morrow a. m.. at 10 o'clock, from tho Baptist church. Port Jervis Masonic Lodge will lake charge of the remains, which will be interred in Laurel Grove Cemetery Thursday, September 04, 1873 Port Jervis, New York The Evening Gazette   MCALLISTER—Sept 1, at Magnolia,Va. , John "McAllister, formerly of Port Jervis aged 51 yrs --- On Wed, 4/28/10, nyorange-request@rootsweb.com <nyorange-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: nyorange-request@rootsweb.com <nyorange-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: NYORANGE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 39 To: nyorange@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:00 AM Today's Topics:    1. records for orange county (Jan Clizer)    2. Re: records for orange county (TEE)    3. Newburg area of Orange County (Gaycha & Ed Mayhew)    4. Re: records for orange county (EM)    5. Re: records for orange county (charane@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:33:45 -0700 From: "Jan Clizer" <jan@janclizerpainting.com> Subject: [NYORANGE] records for orange county To: <NYORANGE@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000c01cae62f$ca7f1d20$5f7d5760$@com> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" Does anyone have any 'outside the box' ideas for finding ANY kind of birth, or ANY (free/affordable) records for the Port Jervis area from 1847 to 1900? Both State Vital Statistics & the County have come up with nothing.  I'm researching the John M. MacAllister family (who lived on MacAllister Street), & David Cremer (Creamer?) family a block away on Main Street, (local grocer) most of whom are buried in Laurel Grove Cemetery in Port Jervis.  Their burial records were all destroyed by a fire in the Baptist church.  One of the family, Archie, was a firefighter in 1878, & I've just written the firehouse, & one was a Mason, Leonard, who I have an obit for..other than that, I'm stumped.  Thank you kindly for your thoughts! ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:45:36 -0400 From: "TEE" <irishgirl1@frontiernet.net> Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] records for orange county To: <jan@janclizerpainting.com>, <nyorange@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <0A0D248FE7F24619A966803A30FAF5E7@Radical> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Jan, don't know if this is any use to you but found these names in a book Margaret Mc Allister m.Wm.Cumming...May 12/1757 NY McAllister  James m Eleonora Callahan...Oct 8/1779 NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Clizer" <jan@janclizerpainting.com> To: <NYORANGE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: [NYORANGE] records for orange county > Does anyone have any 'outside the box' ideas for finding ANY kind of > birth, > or ANY (free/affordable) records for the Port Jervis area from 1847 to > 1900? > Both State Vital Statistics & the County have come up with nothing.  I'm > researching the John M. MacAllister family (who lived on MacAllister > Street), & David Cremer (Creamer?) family a block away on Main Street, > (local grocer) most of whom are buried in Laurel Grove Cemetery in Port > Jervis.  Their burial records were all destroyed by a fire in the Baptist > church.  One of the family, Archie, was a firefighter in 1878, & I've just > written the firehouse, & one was a Mason, Leonard, who I have an obit > for..other than that, I'm stumped. > > Thank you kindly for your thoughts! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 13:06:09 -0500 From: Gaycha & Ed Mayhew <gemayhew@mchsi.com> Subject: [NYORANGE] Newburg area of Orange County To: nyorange@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <A6B9D745-08AF-4E1A-A11A-E7F20720567F@mchsi.com> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii     Does anyone have any ideas on how to find a birth and parents for a Hezekiah Gardner born in Newburg area of Orange Co., NY in 1790.  I find a lot of Gardner men there at that time but how do I find which one was Hezekiah's father.  I also think he was either married in Newburg or Blooming Grove in 1820 and several children were born there. They were protestant, one of older sons became Methodist minister. I was at the Allen County Library for a week last week and found absolutely nothing in the books there. >> >> >> Thank you kindly for your thoughts!     Gaycha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:12:00 -0400 From: "EM" <masel@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] records for orange county To: <jan@janclizerpainting.com>, <nyorange@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <6BA1A374E0D748FC9906387D10C0FDEE@D6JP5V71> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original If you don't have this, there is a David Creamer buried in Laurel Grove Cem., burial # 3221 in Lot 54, Section E.  There is a date of 25 Dec 1888 but this could be either his death date or burial date.  There should be a short obituary in one of the Port Jervis newspapers which are on film at the PJ Library.....a great source of info. The spelling for the street is McAllister and most of the family is listed under this spelling in the Laurel Grove Cem. Index and on the census.  That may be one reason why nothing was found.  In the same plot with David Creamer is John McAllister, burial # 5140, died or was buried 11 Feb. 1901. There are two other John McAllisters in other plots....one died in 1873, the other in 1903.   Leonard MacAllister who died around 4 May 1941 is buried in Lot 54, Section E.  Notice the spelling of his name vs, the others.  There are more McAllisters in the index.  My index only goes to 1988. On the 1900 census is a John McAllister and family living at 169 West Main St. in the Town of Deerpark, Village of Port Jervis.  His month of birth is listed as January and year is 1847.  The Minisink Valley Historical Society may have more information on the Laurel Grove burials.  Possibly one of the local funeral homes might be able to help also if they have time.  Don Parker (now deceased) of Gray's was very helpful to me years ago.     Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Clizer" <jan@janclizerpainting.com> To: <NYORANGE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: [NYORANGE] records for orange county > Does anyone have any 'outside the box' ideas for finding ANY kind of > birth, > or ANY (free/affordable) records for the Port Jervis area from 1847 to > 1900? > Both State Vital Statistics & the County have come up with nothing.  I'm > researching the John M. MacAllister family (who lived on MacAllister > Street), & David Cremer (Creamer?) family a block away on Main Street, > (local grocer) most of whom are buried in Laurel Grove Cemetery in Port > Jervis.  Their burial records were all destroyed by a fire in the Baptist > church.  One of the family, Archie, was a firefighter in 1878, & I've just > written the firehouse, & one was a Mason, Leonard, who I have an obit > for..other than that, I'm stumped. > > Thank you kindly for your thoughts! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:37:17 -0400 From: charane@aol.com Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] records for orange county To: jan@janclizerpainting.com, nyorange@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCB47153423986-2F9C-1870@Webmail-d112.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" -----Original Message----- From: Jan Clizer <jan@janclizerpainting.com> To: NYORANGE@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Apr 27, 2010 12:33 pm Subject: [NYORANGE] records for orange county Does anyone have any 'outside the box' ideas for finding ANY kind of birth, or ANY (free/affordable) records for the Port Jervis area from 1847 to 1900? Both State Vital Statistics & the County have come up with nothing.  I'm researching the John M. MacAllister family (who lived on MacAllister Street), & David Cremer (Creamer?) family a block away on Main Street, (local grocer) most of whom are buried in Laurel Grove Cemetery in Port Jervis.  Their burial records were all destroyed by a fire in the Baptist church.  One of the family, Archie, was a firefighter in 1878, & I've just written the firehouse, & one was a Mason, Leonard, who I have an obit for..other than that, I'm stumped.  Thank you kindly for your thoughts! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the NYORANGE list administrator, send an email to NYORANGE-admin@rootsweb.com. 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The Minisink Valley Historical Society has burial information for Laurel Grove Cemetery. Perhaps birthdates are included in the records??? http://www.minisink.org/ As for the Find-a-Grave site, the last I checked there were relatively few listings online for this cemetery. But if you want a photo of a particular gravesite, you can post a request. Best of luck.

1 There are a batch of books available online at the HeritageQuest site that cover Gardner/Gardiner genealogy and there are also some commemorative books that cover early Newburgh, NY history. Ask your local librarian if your library subscribes to HeritageQuest. 2 Although I found no Hezekiah mentioned, this following book has historic information on early Gardner/Gardiners of Newburgh and nearby Gardnertown. You can download the book as a searchable PDF: History of Orange County, New York (1881) Ruttenber, Edward Manning, 1825-1907; Clark, L. H. (Lewis H.) http://www.archive.org/details/cu31924028832693 3 Again, no Hezekiah, but a bunch of other Gardner/Gardiners are documented at the Old Town Cemetery [Newburgh] site: http://www.oldtowncemetery.org/ 4 I haven't yet consulted the woman, but I'm told that the Newburgh Local Historian is a crackerjack. Sorry, but I can't remember her name. Her office is located within the Newburgh Free Library - perhaps she can help you? http://www.newburghlibrary.org/localhistory/ResourcesoftheLocalHistoryGenealogyResearchRoom.htm Good luck.

Thank you so much, it is a chance at some new ideas to follow. Gaycha On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:16 AM, juliasgenes wrote: > 1 > There are a batch of books available online at the HeritageQuest site that cover Gardner/Gardiner genealogy and there are also some commemorative books that cover early Newburgh, NY history. Ask your local librarian if your library subscribes to HeritageQuest. > > 2 > Although I found no Hezekiah mentioned, this following book has historic information on early Gardner/Gardiners of Newburgh and nearby Gardnertown. You can download the book as a searchable PDF: > > History of Orange County, New York (1881) > Ruttenber, Edward Manning, 1825-1907; Clark, L. H. (Lewis H.) > http://www.archive.org/details/cu31924028832693 > > 3 > Again, no Hezekiah, but a bunch of other Gardner/Gardiners are documented at the Old Town Cemetery [Newburgh] site: > http://www.oldtowncemetery.org/ > > 4 > I haven't yet consulted the woman, but I'm told that the Newburgh Local Historian is a crackerjack. Sorry, but I can't remember her name. Her office is located within the Newburgh Free Library - perhaps she can help you? > > http://www.newburghlibrary.org/localhistory/ResourcesoftheLocalHistoryGenealogyResearchRoom.htm > > Good luck. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did the info on the news items & obit on Snyder ( the poor guy that hitched a ride on an Erie train only to fall to his death) ever come through? I don't remember seeing the post. And did the message and attachments reach the woman who was searching Elias? Let me know if they didn't make it & I'll send then again.

I received a copy of the news item from Susan Bennett-Perkowski, but I have not received an obit. The ones you sent apparently didn't make it to me. You may send directly to my e-mail. Thank you for your help. Judy At 01:35 AM 4/29/2010, you wrote: >Did the info on the news items & obit on Snyder ( the poor guy that >hitched a ride on an Erie train only to fall to his death) ever come >through? I don't remember seeing the post. And did the message and >attachments reach the woman who was searching Elias? > >Let me know if they didn't make it & I'll send then again.