Hi Connie (and any other Smith researchers in Orange County), I am interested in whether you have any background information on your James Smith other than what you mentioned in your posting of December 2: "my ggg grandfather, James Smith was born in Orange County. He was born 1810. I don't know who his parents were. He married a Rachel Freese from Tompkins County and his first two children were born there in Dryden. I don't know when he would have left Orange County." I have a 5gr grandfather, Robert Smith (born 1725/26 in ?Scotland?, died 18 March 1830 in Madison County NY) who lived with his family in Montgomery, Orange County, NY prior to 1801. Don't know his wife, but have been told her name was Bethia.....also suggestion has been made that she was "of a prominent family in the area". <LOL> Robert's children were James (b. 1770, d. pre-1830, m. E. Denniston 1790), Jonathan (b. ca. 1772, d. pre-1830), Job/John (b. ca. 1774, d. pre 1830), Robert (b. ca. 1776, d. 1883, m. Bathsheba Barnes -- have much more on them), Mary (b. ca. 1778, d. pre Aug. 1827, m. Mr. Willson), David (b. ca. 1780, d. post Aug 1827), Samuel (b. ca. 1780, d. pre 1730), Caleb (b. ca. 1784, d. pre June 1830), Nancy (b. ca. 1786, d. pre June 1830, m. Mr. Graves), Abigail (b. ca. 1788, d. pre June 1830, m. Mr. Gillet), George (b. 1790/91, d. 1836, m. Sarah (Sally) Lyon -- have much more on them), & Phebe (b. ca 1792, d. pre June 1830, m. Mr. Mann). The fact that your James was born in 1810 eliminates him being Robert's son James, but I am wondering if he might have been a son or nephew of one of Robert's children. I know that George died of consumption, but I don't know about the others. Also, I can't PROVE that all of the other "kids" in that family actually died -- I just know they weren't mentioned in documents found relating to the dates shown. Would love to hear from other Smith researchers in the area.