In a message dated 2/27/00 10:28:51 AM Central Standard Time, NYORANGE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Page 354 of Ruttenber & Clark gives a partial description of the family of Leonard Carpenter of Newburgh NY. His father is given as "Benjamin Carpenter who was born in England in 1730" who came to L.I. initially, but resided at the end of his life in Marlborough in Ulster County NY. His wife is given as Jane Leonard, daughter of Silas Leonard, minister at Goshen. Two of Benjamin Carpenter's SIX children's names are given; Jacob and Leonard. Can you add to this outline?.... Who were this Benjamin Carpenter's parents in England? Did they really go FIRST to L.I.? Where on L.I.? Who were the other four offspring of Benjamin & Jane? Who were the offspring of Benjamin's son Jacob? I'm confident that one our John's (NH and La Mesa) must have a file on these Carpenters. Maybe others, too. (Anyone here descended from these guys?) Robin ` >> Joan, I can't remember if I already told you this, but in those wills from Ancestry, there was a William CARPENTER, who named his children with the surname of SMITH. One of the sons, reverted back to CARPENTER. This is probably precisely why we've come to a dead end - did find it interesting however, when this morning, the above message shows up on the Rockland list. Intriguing...... Speaking of Carpenters - the Wiliam Carpenter that I found was a carpenter by trade. Was there a difference in a mason and a carpenter? My Smith grandfather's were all listed as mason's, but judging from the tools passed down to my own father, they were actually be carpenters as I know them. My grandpop Arthur Smith did alot of the carvings in the of the theatre's on Long Island (Roslyn area). I've got a photo of it, but can't think of the name of it off hand. Barb