Phoebe, thank you for your Deeds and wills. I have found a Mathew Howell there several times and although I do not have a solid connection to this guy I think he might be the GGGGF I have been looking for. If anyone on the digest has any more on these two Mathew Howells I would appreciate it. I am changing my provider the end of this month so I can always be reached at Sheemax@hotmail.com Sheila TX