Hello, Mr Irons - Caution - my knowledge of all the "legal stuff" is nil - so, dumb bunny alert! Does the Surrogate Court also have adoption records or just the guardianship records? I have an adopted GGF who was born in 1874, supposedly in Port Jervis. Would you expect his court records to be held in Goshen or at the local courthouse in PJ? How much does it cost to look up Surrogate Court records? Do I need an appointment? Am I allowed to reproduce records? How long, on the average, does it take to locate records - hours, days? Is the staff helpful and kind or do they cringe when they see you coming? Thanks for the primer, Julia --- On Wed, 6/2/10, k2mi@frontiernet.net <k2mi@frontiernet.net> wrote: ...The surrogate court in Goshen has many guardianships... Marty

Any Jordans wills found in the new collection? -- Ruth Jordan Thoden rjthoden@frontier.com http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=rthoden

Hi, Ruth. The only new wills are the 12 wills I posted to nyorange-l. No Jordans in that list. Sorry. Didn't I send you a copy of the index for Jordan??? I usually do that whenever I copy wills. If not on that printed index....the clerks would never find it even if it was there because they have millions of documents. I've had a sudden upsurge of requests, and now go to surrogate court more than once a week. Best regards, Marty Irons

Are there any Benedict wills in this early wills book. If so, I would be interested. Particularly Daniel Benedict. I need to prove that Wallace Benedict was his son. Thanks, Joan Bray -----Original Message----- From: Christina Wilson <fmlyhntr@yahoo.com> To: nyorange@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jun 2, 2010 5:04 pm Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] early orange county wills Christina, if our ancestors had left range County, any probate records ould normally be filed where they lived at ime of death, not where they sed to live. The "Early Wills of Orange County NY" book oes ave some abstracts 1730-1787, but 'd presume that all of them died in this area. Do you have specific names and dates? I have names, but no dates--that's what I'm trying to find. Some of these people ay have been in Westchester county, NY--there is a lot of variation and range. Eleazor Yeoman--he died about 1797 not sure where (Westchester or Orange). Born bout 1702 probably in Suffolk Co, NY. Fountains--maybe Matthew Fountain, no clue when or where he died (might even een Canada)--I'm specifically looking for a mention of Abigail (husband was tephen Yeoman) who may have been his daughter. She was born around 1755, maybe. Solomon Yeoman (no idea on dates or where) he was born about 1667 in Suffolk ounty, NY. Stephen and Abigail Yeoman died in Fayette county, Ohio--I've found his will, ot hers. I"ve not worked on this line for quite a while, since I really need to find rimary sources--older research is a huge part of the problem. Notice all the aybes and probablies. This line has been one of the most frustrating--a prime xample is Abigail (Fountain?)--I've seen birthyears as early as 1730 and as ate as 1760. I have looked in the Orange county book with no luck. Christina ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYORANGE-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

No, Lois. A few minutes ago I posted a long message about guardianships and other probate records on the nyorange list. It should answer some of your questions. The "Early Wills of Orange County" book only covers >>> wills <<< 1787-1830. There are many entries in the surrogate court index for people who left no wills. Specifically, letters of administration are granted when no valid will is found. There is an 1828 letter of administration for Clarissa Moore, Liber F, page 24. This might be exactly the document issued to her husband in Ohio. Or it might be totally different. If you want a copy, contact me direct, not on the list. Marty Irons k2mi@frontiernet.net

The surrogate court in Goshen has many guardianships. Each child would have a separate record. They are one-page documents, naming the child, one (sometimes two) parent(s), and who was appointed guardian and in which town the guardian lived. Nothing else. Once, when checking the index for a will, I found 5 guardianships for the same surname immediately after a letter of administration, and copied them. The person to whom I mailed all of it said "It was like opening buried treasure - they were all from my family". So if you look for guardianships, look at the index for the same surname for the same or immediately previous year(s). In general, the records 1787-1825 are very skimpy, with many probates only having one type of record. After that, the index might show 2 or more types. Decrees can be very helpful, and might name family members not mentioned in wills. Letters of administration are one-page documents, given when no will was found, naming the person appointed to handle the estate of the deceased. Not much info, but if there is a letter of administration you know that you don't need to waste time looking for a will. I can get copies of any probate records...wills, letters testamentary, letters of administration, guardianships, inventories and/or decrees, 1787-2010. If you want copies of >>> Orange County NY <<< probate records, please contact me direct. Marty Irons k2mi@frontiernet.net

Christina, if your ancestors had left Orange County, any probate records would normally be filed where they lived at time of death, not where they used to live. The "Early Wills of Orange County NY" book does have some abstracts 1730-1787, but I'd presume that all of them died in this area. Do you have specific names and dates? I have names, but no dates--that's what I'm trying to find. Some of these people may have been in Westchester county, NY--there is a lot of variation and range. Eleazor Yeoman--he died about 1797 not sure where (Westchester or Orange). Born about 1702 probably in Suffolk Co, NY. Fountains--maybe Matthew Fountain, no clue when or where he died (might even been Canada)--I'm specifically looking for a mention of Abigail (husband was Stephen Yeoman) who may have been his daughter. She was born around 1755, maybe. Solomon Yeoman (no idea on dates or where) he was born about 1667 in Suffolk County, NY. Stephen and Abigail Yeoman died in Fayette county, Ohio--I've found his will, not hers. I"ve not worked on this line for quite a while, since I really need to find primary sources--older research is a huge part of the problem. Notice all the maybes and probablies. This line has been one of the most frustrating--a prime example is Abigail (Fountain?)--I've seen birthyears as early as 1730 and as late as 1760. I have looked in the Orange county book with no luck. Christina

Thanks, Julia! I was able to get a hold of someone in the Woodbury Historical Society so hopefully they'll also be able to provide me with some information! On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:00 AM, <nyorange-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. New York State Military Museum and Veterans Research Cente > (juliasgenes) > 2. The Adams Family [snap!] [snap!] (juliasgenes) > 3. Re: New York State Military Museum and Veterans Research > Center (Bill & Judy Cuyle) > 4. Fw: Soldiers of the 124th Regiment of the NYS Volunteers who > died of their wounds at Gettysburg (juliasgenes) > 5. Re: Fw: Soldiers of the 124th Regiment of the NYS > Volunteerswho died of their wounds at Gettysburg (Fred) > 6. Re: Soldiers of the 124th Regiment of the NYS Volunteerswho > died of their wounds at Gettysburg (juliasgenes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 07:44:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> > Subject: [NYORANGE] New York State Military Museum and Veterans > Research Cente > To: blacksheep@ibssg.org, Dutchess List <NYDUTCHE@rootsweb.com>, > Minisink Valley List <MinisinkValley@rootsweb.com>, Orange List > <NYORANGE@rootsweb.com>, NYULSTER@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <808737.99973.qm@web110016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello, Listees - > > Just days ago, I found a gem of a website: "New York State Military Museum > and Veterans Research Center". Although still a work in progress, it is > packed with information and images concerning NYS residents who have served, > from the pre-Revolution through Desert Storm. > > * Regimental histories and rosters of members, mostly Civil War - where I > found the book from which the list of the 124th Regiment NY Volunteers dead > at Gettysburg was taken [my G3GF was in this Regiment for three years as an > ambulance driver; he survived, but perhaps saw and handled the dead listed] > > * Downloadable spreadsheets for "Register of officers whose services > terminated prior to Jan. 1, 1858" > > * A number of online images of Civil War battle flags along with 2 > downloadable posters > > * Online images from various military eras. I like how they say, in a > caption to a 1609 drawing:? "New York's first "citizen-soldiers" were Native > American warriors." > > Unfortunately, cutbacks have left them unable to take telephone inquiries, > but they invite people to write them with questions. > > http://dmna.state.ny.us/historic/mil-hist.htm > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 08:55:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> > Subject: [NYORANGE] The Adams Family [snap!] [snap!] > To: Orange List <NYORANGE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <897342.55903.qm@web110002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > For Michael Scozzari : > > Obituaries found for the Adams Family: Henry, Ruby Dawson, Flora, Fred, and > Irene Miller. I'll try to scan & send them over the coming weekend. > > Julia > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 16:19:20 -0400 > From: Bill & Judy Cuyle <bjcuyle@lightlink.com> > Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] New York State Military Museum and Veterans > Research Center > To: nyorange@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20100531161544.0447a080@pop.lightlink.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Thanks for this information. We toured the Museum some time ago, but didn't > realize they had a web site with genealogy information. > > At 10:44 AM 5/31/2010, you wrote: > >Hello, Listees - > > > >Just days ago, I found a gem of a website: "New York State Military Museum > >and Veterans Research Center". Although still a work in progress, it is > >packed with information and images concerning NYS residents who have > >served, from the pre-Revolution through Desert Storm. > > > >* Regimental histories and rosters of members, mostly Civil War - where I > >found the book from which the list of the 124th Regiment NY Volunteers > >dead at Gettysburg was taken [my G3GF was in this Regiment for three years > >as an ambulance driver; he survived, but perhaps saw and handled the dead > >listed] > > > >* Downloadable spreadsheets for "Register of officers whose services > >terminated prior to Jan. 1, 1858" > > > >* A number of online images of Civil War battle flags along with 2 > >downloadable posters > > > >* Online images from various military eras. I like how they say, in a > >caption to a 1609 drawing: "New York's first "citizen-soldiers" were > >Native American warriors." > > > >Unfortunately, cutbacks have left them unable to take telephone inquiries, > >but they invite people to write them with questions. > > > >http://dmna.state.ny.us/historic/mil-hist.htm > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 13:49:40 -0700 (PDT) > From: juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> > Subject: [NYORANGE] Fw: Soldiers of the 124th Regiment of the NYS > Volunteers who died of their wounds at Gettysburg > To: Orange List <NYORANGE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <653823.83123.qm@web110001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Ted Myers, on the Dutchess County mailing list, kindly added more > information to this list of Gettysburg dead of the 124th Regiment. > > > ?This could lead to something - round robin postings between various > mailing lists with info added along the way. Hmmmm... > > > > --- On Mon, 5/31/10, Ted Myers <halmyers2002@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Allen, Cornelius S, Pvt, Co "I" Killed 2 Jul 1863,? age 27, from Newburgh > Barton, Walter, Pvt, Co "G" Killed 2 July 1863, age 22, from > Washingtonville > Brown, Milnor, 2nd Lt. Co? "I" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 23, Albany > Campbell, William Pvt, Co "G" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 44, Newburgh > Carroll, John Pvt, Co "K" Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 24, Wallkill > Corbett, Thomas, Pvt, Co "G"? Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 23, Oxford > Cox, William, Sgt, Co "H" Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 26, Walden > Cromwell, James, Major, Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 22, Goshen > Dawkins, William H., Pvt, Co "G" missing? 2 Jul 1863, no futher record, 21 > Blooming Grove. > Decker, Isaac? Cpl,? Co "K"? Killed? 2 Jul 1863,? age 24, Goshen. > Drake, John D., 1st Sgt, Co "F" Killed?? 2 Jul 1863, age 22,? Port Jarvis > Edwards, Charles, Pvt, Co "I"? wounded 2 Jul, died 8 Jul 1863, age 40, New > Windsor. > Ellis, Augustus Van Horne, Colonel, Killed 2 Jul 1863. Born New York City, > 1 May 1827 > Flagg, Benjamin F., Pvt, Co "C"? Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 20, Goshen. > Gillson, Isacc G., Pvt, Co? "F" , Killed? 2 Jul? 1863, 28, Port Jarvis > Glanz, John, Pvt, Co? "B"? wounded? 2 Jul 1863, no futher record found, > age? 27, Goshen > Harris, Hezekel, Pvt, Co "E", Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 44, Newburgh > Holland, Robert, Jr. Pvt, Co? "B" Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 18, Goshen > Homan, James E., Pvt, Co "H" , wounded? 2 Jul 1863, died 3 Jul 1863,? age > 22, Walden > buried Gettysburg National Cemetery, Plot NY, Grave, B-89 > Hulbert, Ambrose S, Pvt, Co "K" Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 18, Wallkill > Knapp, Orland U., Cpl,? Co "F"? Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 27, Port Jarvis. > Lamoreux, William, Pvt, Co "B"? Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 43, Goshen. > Leeper, John W.,? Pvt,? Co "D"? wounded and captured? 2 Jul 1863, paroled > and > died of his wounds at Annapolis,Maryland, age 24, Goshen > Lent, Jacob, Cpl, Co "A", Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 18, Goshen > Moore, William,? Pvt,? Co "I", Killed? 3 Jul 1863,? age 38, Newburgh > Moores, James B., Pvt,? Co "E", wounded? 2 Jul 1863, died? 8 Jul 1863, age > 30, > Newburgh. Buried Gettysburg National Cemetery, Plot NY, Grave, B-55 > Nichols, Isaac, Capt, Co "G", Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 22, Goshen. Buried in > the Associate Reformed Graveyard, Gettysburg. > Partington, James. Pvt, Co "I"? wounded? 2 Jul 1863, died 8 Jul 1863, age > 22, > Newburgh.? Gettysburgh National Cemetery. Plot NY, C-46 > Pembleton,James. Pvt, Co "D" Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 28, Goshen > Quick, Amsey W,? Pvt,? Co "F" Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 24, Port Jervis > Roak, James, Pvt,? Co "G" Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 32, Bloomin Grove > Scott, John, Cpl,? Co "E" ,? wounded? and died? 2 Jul 1863, age 21, Goshen > Stephens, George H.,? Pvt,? Co "K", Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 19, Newburgh > Storms, Harrison H.,? Pvt, Co "B", Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 28, Goshen > Whan, William.? Pvt,? Co "I",? Killed? 2 Jul 1863, age 30, Newburgh > > Those not listed in cemeteries they most likely buried in the Gettysburg > National > Cemetery. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 17:43:55 -0400 > From: "Fred" <saarf@attglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] Fw: Soldiers of the 124th Regiment of the NYS > Volunteerswho died of their wounds at Gettysburg > To: <nyorange@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4F70AAF2FF75420988DF5E748B613B8E@Freddesk> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > For more information on the 124th the following is a very good book: > History of the 124th Regiment of New York State Volunteers by Lt. Col. > Charles H. Weygant > > Also, see the following web site > http://www.skaneateles.org/124_inf/124_inf.html > > Fred > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "juliasgenes" <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 4:49 PM > To: "Orange List" <NYORANGE@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [NYORANGE] Fw: Soldiers of the 124th Regiment of the NYS > Volunteerswho died of their wounds at Gettysburg > > > Ted Myers, on the Dutchess County mailing list, kindly added more > > information to this list of Gettysburg dead of the 124th Regiment. > > > > > > This could lead to something - round robin postings between various > > mailing lists with info added along the way. Hmmmm... > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 5/31/10, Ted Myers <halmyers2002@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Allen, Cornelius S, Pvt, Co "I" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 27, from Newburgh > > Barton, Walter, Pvt, Co "G" Killed 2 July 1863, age 22, from > > Washingtonville > > Brown, Milnor, 2nd Lt. Co "I" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 23, Albany > > Campbell, William Pvt, Co "G" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 44, Newburgh > > Carroll, John Pvt, Co "K" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 24, Wallkill > > Corbett, Thomas, Pvt, Co "G" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 23, Oxford > > Cox, William, Sgt, Co "H" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 26, Walden > > Cromwell, James, Major, Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 22, Goshen > > Dawkins, William H., Pvt, Co "G" missing 2 Jul 1863, no futher record, > 21 > > Blooming Grove. > > Decker, Isaac Cpl, Co "K" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 24, Goshen. > > Drake, John D., 1st Sgt, Co "F" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 22, Port Jarvis > > Edwards, Charles, Pvt, Co "I" wounded 2 Jul, died 8 Jul 1863, age 40, > New > > Windsor. > > Ellis, Augustus Van Horne, Colonel, Killed 2 Jul 1863. Born New York > City, > > 1 May 1827 > > Flagg, Benjamin F., Pvt, Co "C" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 20, Goshen. > > Gillson, Isacc G., Pvt, Co "F" , Killed 2 Jul 1863, 28, Port Jarvis > > Glanz, John, Pvt, Co "B" wounded 2 Jul 1863, no futher record found, > > age 27, Goshen > > Harris, Hezekel, Pvt, Co "E", Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 44, Newburgh > > Holland, Robert, Jr. Pvt, Co "B" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 18, Goshen > > Homan, James E., Pvt, Co "H" , wounded 2 Jul 1863, died 3 Jul 1863, age > > 22, Walden > > buried Gettysburg National Cemetery, Plot NY, Grave, B-89 > > Hulbert, Ambrose S, Pvt, Co "K" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 18, Wallkill > > Knapp, Orland U., Cpl, Co "F" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 27, Port Jarvis. > > Lamoreux, William, Pvt, Co "B" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 43, Goshen. > > Leeper, John W., Pvt, Co "D" wounded and captured 2 Jul 1863, paroled > > and > > died of his wounds at Annapolis,Maryland, age 24, Goshen > > Lent, Jacob, Cpl, Co "A", Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 18, Goshen > > Moore, William, Pvt, Co "I", Killed 3 Jul 1863, age 38, Newburgh > > Moores, James B., Pvt, Co "E", wounded 2 Jul 1863, died 8 Jul 1863, > age > > 30, > > Newburgh. Buried Gettysburg National Cemetery, Plot NY, Grave, B-55 > > Nichols, Isaac, Capt, Co "G", Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 22, Goshen. Buried > > in > > the Associate Reformed Graveyard, Gettysburg. > > Partington, James. Pvt, Co "I" wounded 2 Jul 1863, died 8 Jul 1863, age > > 22, > > Newburgh. Gettysburgh National Cemetery. Plot NY, C-46 > > Pembleton,James. Pvt, Co "D" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 28, Goshen > > Quick, Amsey W, Pvt, Co "F" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 24, Port Jervis > > Roak, James, Pvt, Co "G" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 32, Bloomin Grove > > Scott, John, Cpl, Co "E" , wounded and died 2 Jul 1863, age 21, > Goshen > > Stephens, George H., Pvt, Co "K", Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 19, Newburgh > > Storms, Harrison H., Pvt, Co "B", Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 28, Goshen > > Whan, William. Pvt, Co "I", Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 30, Newburgh > > > > Those not listed in cemeteries they most likely buried in the Gettysburg > > National > > Cemetery. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 17:33:54 -0700 (PDT) > From: juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] Soldiers of the 124th Regiment of the NYS > Volunteerswho died of their wounds at Gettysburg > To: nyorange@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <210932.9739.qm@web110012.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks, Fred - I hadn't seen that website before. > > I downloaded the Weyant book from HeritageQuest and I found these in the > digital collection of the NYS Library: > > "Final Report on the > Battlefield of Gettysburg" > http://nysl.nysed.gov/uhtbin/cgisirsi/FGyhNrLiG4/NYSL/226550018/503/71554 > > "New York in the War of the Rebellion, 1861-1865". > > http://nysl.nysed.gov/uhtbin/cgisirsi/mmlxY3OOix/NYSL/226550018/503/79097 > > > --- On Mon, 5/31/10, Fred <saarf@attglobal.net> wrote: > > > ...more information on the 124th... > > Fred > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYORANGE list administrator, send an email to > NYORANGE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NYORANGE mailing list, send an email to > NYORANGE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYORANGE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYORANGE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 59 > *************************************** >

Marty, As far as the Orange County *surrogate* court records go, would they also include adoptions or placement of children? I am thinking along the lines if a parent died, without a will, and the child(ren) were placed in the custody of someone else. Pre-1800, was this common in O.C., or did our folks just not bother to go through the legalities? Mark

Christina, if your ancestors had left Orange County, any probate records would normally be filed where they lived at time of death, not where they used to live. The "Early Wills of Orange County NY" book does have some abstracts 1730-1787, but I'd presume that all of them died in this area. Do you have specific names and dates? Marty Irons

Good morning, Juliann. Yes, there is a will at surrogate court for every name on the list of 16 that I posted. The folks who created "Early Wills of Orange County NY" did a wonderful job - abstracting from almost 1,400 hand-written wills. I can't imagine how much work that involved, or how long it took. But they missed a few. Because I go to surrogate court frequently to get wills for others, I became aware that when they were preparing the abstracts they had missed a few wills completely, so I spent several weeks there, comparing the EOW book to their index. That's how I identified the 12 they missed, and also found that the surrogate court index missed 4 that are in the EOW book. There is no abstract in the EOW book for 12 of them, and you will find no probate info for those 12 at Orange County Genealogical Society. You can only get details for those 12 at surrogate court. I can get copies of any probate record from 1787 - 2010. Contact me direct if you want some. Marty Irons Goshen NY k2mi@frontiernet.net

Will of Reuben Tooker as transcribed by Lil Heselton Orange county, Liber A page 54 - 25 July 1786 LDS film 0835417 In the Name of God Amen. I Reuben Tooker of Cornwall Precinct, in Orange county and State of New york, cordwainer, considering the uncertainty of this mortal life, being week in body but in perfect mind and memory, blessed be God for the same being anxious to to make and publish this my last will and Testament in manner following first I order all my just debts and funeral charges to be paid out of my Personal estate in as short a time after my decease as profitable. Also I give and bequesth unto my beloved wife Rachel one feather bed and furniture, one horse and side saddle such as she shall choose and likewise I will and direct that my said wife shall have the best room in my house and be provided with a good and sufficient maintenance out of the farm, messuage, or tenement whereever I now live for and during the time that she shall remain my widow and also I order and direct that my wife shall have the use of all my livestock that shall be left on the aforesaid farm at my decease after the aforesaid debts and funeral charges shall be paid. Together with the priviledge of their being kept and supported on the said farm.And also I give and bequeath unto my eldest son Charles Tooker the sum of five shillings to be paid out of my Personal estate within the term of Twelve months after my decease. Also I give and bequeath unto my son Joseph Tooker, one sorrel mare which he now uses and that feather bed which he now uses and I order that my son Joseph Tooker shall have a sufficient maintenance out of the farm, messuage and tenement on which I now live and also I give and bequeath unto my son Selah Tooker all the farm messuage or tenement whereon I now live to him his heirs and assigns forever excepting the legassies and dowries herein mentioned and likewise I order and direct that my said son Selah Tooker shall have the use of my team consisting of one yoke of oxen and two horses until the first day of may which will be in the year of ont thousand seven hundred and ninety and also I will and bequeath my son Issac tooker all my livestock that shall remain after my wife's decease and all the said stock that she shall not stand in need of while living. Also I give and bequeath to my daughter Mehitable Rumsey one iron pot which she now has in possession and one chest with drawers and also I give and bequeath to my daughters Mary Rumsey and Hannah Duryea all my household furniture after my wifes decease to be equally divided except one set of curtains which I give to Hannah Duryea and thereby Make order constitute and appoint Selah Tooker and Garret Duryea Executors to this my Last Will ans Testament. In trust for the purposes in this Will contained hereby revoking all former Wills by me made In witness therof I hereunto have set my hand and seal this twenty first day of July in the year one thousand seven hundred and eighty six. Signed sealed and published by the testator to be his last Will ans Testament in presence of ........Reuben Tooker. John W Tuthill, Joseph S Conkling, Benjamin Hulse ----- Original Message ----- From: nyorange-request@rootsweb.com To: nyorange@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:00 AM Subject: NYORANGE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 Today's Topics: 1. Wills 1787 - 1830 not in "Early Orange Wills" book (MARTY) 2. probate records of jemima hall (ajullman@aol.com) 3. Re: Wills 1787 - 1830 not in "Early Orange Wills" book (Dave & Liz DuBois) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 08:00:29 -0400 From: MARTY <k2mi@frontiernet.net> Subject: [NYORANGE] Wills 1787 - 1830 not in "Early Orange Wills" book To: "LIST - Orange Co." <nyorange@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4C04F65D.7030906@frontiernet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hats off to those who created the "Early Wills of Orange County NY"... a monumental undertaking. God bless them for what they left for us. Recent visits to surrogate court in Goshen have discovered that there are wills not covered in this book at all. OCGS has no info on the contents of these wills....the names, years, libers and pages are shown for information only. ALLEN, Esther............1830 - I : 183 BAILEY, Jonathan......1814 - E : 180 COLLAM, Isaac M....1827 - H : 294 COULTER, Nancy.....1827 - H : 257 CURTIS, Anna...........1798 - B : 34 DICKEY, Jemima.......1823 - G : 124 DOLSEN, Sarah.........1802 - B : 306 FELL, John.................1800 - B : 208 HALL, Jemima............1822 - F : 422 HAYNES, John..........1796 - A : 379 HAZZARD, James......1830 - I : 172 TOOKER, Reuben.....1788 - A : 54 I hope this info helps someone. Marty Irons Goshen NY ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:33:42 -0400 From: ajullman@aol.com Subject: [NYORANGE] probate records of jemima hall To: NYORANGE@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CCCFAE9160912F-1254-24EC5@webmail-d017.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Will of Jemima Lancaster Hall Liber F p 422 Orange County New York as transcribed by Lil Heselton. Preamble: The People of the State of New York by the Grace of God, Free and Independent to all whom these presents shall come or may concern, find greeting, knowing that at Goshen in the County of Orange on the fourth day of January in the Year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and twenty two, before Edward Ely, surrogate of our said County, the last will and testament of Jemima Hall deceased (its contents whereof is hereby annexed) was proved and is now approved and allowed of???said deceased having whilst she lived and at the time of her death the goods chattels or credits within this state by means whereof the proving and registering this last will and the granting administration of all and singular the goods chattels and credits of the said deceased, and also the auditing all and singular and final dispersing of the account thereof doth belong unto us: the administration of all and singular, the goods chattels and credit is of the said deceased in any way or manner ?..will ! is granted unto Samuel Muckelroy, the Executor in the said will ??.Being first duly sworn well and faithfully to administer the same unto us when thereunto required. In testimony whereof We have assigned the seal and office of said Surrogate to be hereunder affixed. Witness Edward Ely, Surrogate of the said county at Goshen the fifth day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty two and of our independence the forty-sixth. A Will: I, Jemima Lancaster of the Town of Monroe do make and ordain this my last will and testament in manner and form following: First: I give and bequeath unto my nephew Samuel Hall the son of Joseph Hall a cow wanting Joseph Hall to take care of the cow for the child Samuel Hall until he wants her. I give and bequeath to my daughter, Sally one tea kettle, larder chest and bed. The bedding to be equally divided between my son Joseph and my daughter Sally. I give and bequeath to my son Joseph Hall the house. I give and bequeath unto my son James one dollar in money and what ?.is more and above what I have mentioned I wish to be sold and the money equally to be divided between my son Joseph and daughter. I hereby nominate constitute and appoint Samuel Muckelroy my executor of this my last will and testament hereby revoking all former wills by me at any time heretofore made. In Witness whereof I hereby set my hand and seal the 20th day of March 1821. Jemima Hall her mark Signed sealed published and declared by the said testator Jemima Hall and for her last will and testament in the presence of us who have subscribed out names as witness thereto in the presence of said testator: John D Van Duzer; Charlotte Van Duzer; Samuel McElroy Letters testamentary: Be it remembered that on the fourth day of January in the year of our lord One thousand eight hundred and twenty two personally appeared before me Edward Ely, Surrogate of the County of Orange Jones D Van Duzer and being duly sworn he did declare and say that he did see Jemima Hall deceased sign by making her mark thereto and seal the paper writing thern shown unto him purporting to be the last will and testament of the said deceased of which the proceeding is a copy and heard her publish and declare the same as her last will and testament, that at the time thereof, she, the deceased was of sound and disposing mind and memory to the best of his knowledge and belief and that together with charlotte Van Duzer and Samuel Muckelroy subscribed their names thereto as witnesses in the presence of the testator and in the presence of each other. The preceding is a true copy of the will of Jemima Hall deceased of the certificate of the proof thereof and the letter testamentary thereon. By Edward Ely Surrogate ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:20:02 -0700 From: Dave & Liz DuBois <ddubois@sinclair.net> Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] Wills 1787 - 1830 not in "Early Orange Wills" book To: nyorange@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4C054142.8080601@sinclair.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'd like to add my thanks to the volunteers who find these gems for us! Your efforts are greatly appreciated, especially by those of us living in the far corners of the country! Liz in the far corner of Washington state On 6/1/2010 5:00 AM, MARTY wrote: > Hats off to those who created the "Early Wills of Orange County NY"... > a monumental undertaking. God bless them for what they left for us. > > Recent visits to surrogate court in Goshen have discovered that > there are wills not covered in this book at all. OCGS has no > info on the contents of these wills....the names, years, libers > and pages are shown for information only. > > ALLEN, Esther............1830 - I : 183 > BAILEY, Jonathan......1814 - E : 180 > COLLAM, Isaac M....1827 - H : 294 > COULTER, Nancy.....1827 - H : 257 > CURTIS, Anna...........1798 - B : 34 > DICKEY, Jemima.......1823 - G : 124 > DOLSEN, Sarah.........1802 - B : 306 > FELL, John.................1800 - B : 208 > HALL, Jemima............1822 - F : 422 > HAYNES, John..........1796 - A : 379 > HAZZARD, James......1830 - I : 172 > TOOKER, Reuben.....1788 - A : 54 > > I hope this info helps someone. > > Marty Irons > Goshen NY > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the NYORANGE list administrator, send an email to NYORANGE-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hi Marty, Thank you for posting this. I am descended from John Fell. Are you saying that the will is there, just not included in the book; or is it just listed in the index, its whereabouts unknown? I'd really love to see a copy if it does exist. Juliann On Jun 2, 2010, at 3:00 AM, nyorange-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 08:00:29 -0400 From: MARTY <k2mi@frontiernet.net> Subject: [NYORANGE] Wills 1787 - 1830 not in "Early Orange Wills" book To: "LIST - Orange Co." <nyorange@rootsweb.com> Hats off to those who created the "Early Wills of Orange County NY"... a monumental undertaking. God bless them for what they left for us. Recent visits to surrogate court in Goshen have discovered that there are wills not covered in this book at all. OCGS has no info on the contents of these wills....the names, years, libers and pages are shown for information only. ... FELL, John.................1800 - B : 208 ... I hope this info helps someone. Marty Irons Goshen NY

Is there a source of information for earlier wills? My ancestors had left Orange County by 1797. Christina Hats off to those who created the "Early Wills of Orange County NY"... a monumental undertaking. God bless them for what they left for us.

Will of Jemima Lancaster Hall Liber F p 422 Orange County New York as transcribed by Lil Heselton. Preamble: The People of the State of New York by the Grace of God, Free and Independent to all whom these presents shall come or may concern, find greeting, knowing that at Goshen in the County of Orange on the fourth day of January in the Year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and twenty two, before Edward Ely, surrogate of our said County, the last will and testament of Jemima Hall deceased (its contents whereof is hereby annexed) was proved and is now approved and allowed of………said deceased having whilst she lived and at the time of her death the goods chattels or credits within this state by means whereof the proving and registering this last will and the granting administration of all and singular the goods chattels and credits of the said deceased, and also the auditing all and singular and final dispersing of the account thereof doth belong unto us: the administration of all and singular, the goods chattels and credit is of the said deceased in any way or manner …..will is granted unto Samuel Muckelroy, the Executor in the said will …….Being first duly sworn well and faithfully to administer the same unto us when thereunto required. In testimony whereof We have assigned the seal and office of said Surrogate to be hereunder affixed. Witness Edward Ely, Surrogate of the said county at Goshen the fifth day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty two and of our independence the forty-sixth. A Will: I, Jemima Lancaster of the Town of Monroe do make and ordain this my last will and testament in manner and form following: First: I give and bequeath unto my nephew Samuel Hall the son of Joseph Hall a cow wanting Joseph Hall to take care of the cow for the child Samuel Hall until he wants her. I give and bequeath to my daughter, Sally one tea kettle, larder chest and bed. The bedding to be equally divided between my son Joseph and my daughter Sally. I give and bequeath to my son Joseph Hall the house. I give and bequeath unto my son James one dollar in money and what ….is more and above what I have mentioned I wish to be sold and the money equally to be divided between my son Joseph and daughter. I hereby nominate constitute and appoint Samuel Muckelroy my executor of this my last will and testament hereby revoking all former wills by me at any time heretofore made. In Witness whereof I hereby set my hand and seal the 20th day of March 1821. Jemima Hall her mark Signed sealed published and declared by the said testator Jemima Hall and for her last will and testament in the presence of us who have subscribed out names as witness thereto in the presence of said testator: John D Van Duzer; Charlotte Van Duzer; Samuel McElroy Letters testamentary: Be it remembered that on the fourth day of January in the year of our lord One thousand eight hundred and twenty two personally appeared before me Edward Ely, Surrogate of the County of Orange Jones D Van Duzer and being duly sworn he did declare and say that he did see Jemima Hall deceased sign by making her mark thereto and seal the paper writing thern shown unto him purporting to be the last will and testament of the said deceased of which the proceeding is a copy and heard her publish and declare the same as her last will and testament, that at the time thereof, she, the deceased was of sound and disposing mind and memory to the best of his knowledge and belief and that together with charlotte Van Duzer and Samuel Muckelroy subscribed their names thereto as witnesses in the presence of the testator and in the presence of each other. The preceding is a true copy of the will of Jemima Hall deceased of the certificate of the proof thereof and the letter testamentary thereon. By Edward Ely Surrogate

I'd like to add my thanks to the volunteers who find these gems for us! Your efforts are greatly appreciated, especially by those of us living in the far corners of the country! Liz in the far corner of Washington state On 6/1/2010 5:00 AM, MARTY wrote: > Hats off to those who created the "Early Wills of Orange County NY"... > a monumental undertaking. God bless them for what they left for us. > > Recent visits to surrogate court in Goshen have discovered that > there are wills not covered in this book at all. OCGS has no > info on the contents of these wills....the names, years, libers > and pages are shown for information only. > > ALLEN, Esther............1830 - I : 183 > BAILEY, Jonathan......1814 - E : 180 > COLLAM, Isaac M....1827 - H : 294 > COULTER, Nancy.....1827 - H : 257 > CURTIS, Anna...........1798 - B : 34 > DICKEY, Jemima.......1823 - G : 124 > DOLSEN, Sarah.........1802 - B : 306 > FELL, John.................1800 - B : 208 > HALL, Jemima............1822 - F : 422 > HAYNES, John..........1796 - A : 379 > HAZZARD, James......1830 - I : 172 > TOOKER, Reuben.....1788 - A : 54 > > I hope this info helps someone. > > Marty Irons > Goshen NY > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hats off to those who created the "Early Wills of Orange County NY"... a monumental undertaking. God bless them for what they left for us. Recent visits to surrogate court in Goshen have discovered that there are wills not covered in this book at all. OCGS has no info on the contents of these wills....the names, years, libers and pages are shown for information only. ALLEN, Esther............1830 - I : 183 BAILEY, Jonathan......1814 - E : 180 COLLAM, Isaac M....1827 - H : 294 COULTER, Nancy.....1827 - H : 257 CURTIS, Anna...........1798 - B : 34 DICKEY, Jemima.......1823 - G : 124 DOLSEN, Sarah.........1802 - B : 306 FELL, John.................1800 - B : 208 HALL, Jemima............1822 - F : 422 HAYNES, John..........1796 - A : 379 HAZZARD, James......1830 - I : 172 TOOKER, Reuben.....1788 - A : 54 I hope this info helps someone. Marty Irons Goshen NY

For more information on the 124th the following is a very good book: History of the 124th Regiment of New York State Volunteers by Lt. Col. Charles H. Weygant Also, see the following web site http://www.skaneateles.org/124_inf/124_inf.html Fred -------------------------------------------------- From: "juliasgenes" <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 4:49 PM To: "Orange List" <NYORANGE@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NYORANGE] Fw: Soldiers of the 124th Regiment of the NYS Volunteerswho died of their wounds at Gettysburg > Ted Myers, on the Dutchess County mailing list, kindly added more > information to this list of Gettysburg dead of the 124th Regiment. > > > This could lead to something - round robin postings between various > mailing lists with info added along the way. Hmmmm... > > > > --- On Mon, 5/31/10, Ted Myers <halmyers2002@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Allen, Cornelius S, Pvt, Co "I" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 27, from Newburgh > Barton, Walter, Pvt, Co "G" Killed 2 July 1863, age 22, from > Washingtonville > Brown, Milnor, 2nd Lt. Co "I" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 23, Albany > Campbell, William Pvt, Co "G" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 44, Newburgh > Carroll, John Pvt, Co "K" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 24, Wallkill > Corbett, Thomas, Pvt, Co "G" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 23, Oxford > Cox, William, Sgt, Co "H" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 26, Walden > Cromwell, James, Major, Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 22, Goshen > Dawkins, William H., Pvt, Co "G" missing 2 Jul 1863, no futher record, 21 > Blooming Grove. > Decker, Isaac Cpl, Co "K" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 24, Goshen. > Drake, John D., 1st Sgt, Co "F" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 22, Port Jarvis > Edwards, Charles, Pvt, Co "I" wounded 2 Jul, died 8 Jul 1863, age 40, New > Windsor. > Ellis, Augustus Van Horne, Colonel, Killed 2 Jul 1863. Born New York City, > 1 May 1827 > Flagg, Benjamin F., Pvt, Co "C" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 20, Goshen. > Gillson, Isacc G., Pvt, Co "F" , Killed 2 Jul 1863, 28, Port Jarvis > Glanz, John, Pvt, Co "B" wounded 2 Jul 1863, no futher record found, > age 27, Goshen > Harris, Hezekel, Pvt, Co "E", Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 44, Newburgh > Holland, Robert, Jr. Pvt, Co "B" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 18, Goshen > Homan, James E., Pvt, Co "H" , wounded 2 Jul 1863, died 3 Jul 1863, age > 22, Walden > buried Gettysburg National Cemetery, Plot NY, Grave, B-89 > Hulbert, Ambrose S, Pvt, Co "K" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 18, Wallkill > Knapp, Orland U., Cpl, Co "F" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 27, Port Jarvis. > Lamoreux, William, Pvt, Co "B" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 43, Goshen. > Leeper, John W., Pvt, Co "D" wounded and captured 2 Jul 1863, paroled > and > died of his wounds at Annapolis,Maryland, age 24, Goshen > Lent, Jacob, Cpl, Co "A", Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 18, Goshen > Moore, William, Pvt, Co "I", Killed 3 Jul 1863, age 38, Newburgh > Moores, James B., Pvt, Co "E", wounded 2 Jul 1863, died 8 Jul 1863, age > 30, > Newburgh. Buried Gettysburg National Cemetery, Plot NY, Grave, B-55 > Nichols, Isaac, Capt, Co "G", Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 22, Goshen. Buried > in > the Associate Reformed Graveyard, Gettysburg. > Partington, James. Pvt, Co "I" wounded 2 Jul 1863, died 8 Jul 1863, age > 22, > Newburgh. Gettysburgh National Cemetery. Plot NY, C-46 > Pembleton,James. Pvt, Co "D" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 28, Goshen > Quick, Amsey W, Pvt, Co "F" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 24, Port Jervis > Roak, James, Pvt, Co "G" Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 32, Bloomin Grove > Scott, John, Cpl, Co "E" , wounded and died 2 Jul 1863, age 21, Goshen > Stephens, George H., Pvt, Co "K", Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 19, Newburgh > Storms, Harrison H., Pvt, Co "B", Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 28, Goshen > Whan, William. Pvt, Co "I", Killed 2 Jul 1863, age 30, Newburgh > > Those not listed in cemeteries they most likely buried in the Gettysburg > National > Cemetery. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYORANGE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, Fred - I hadn't seen that website before. I downloaded the Weyant book from HeritageQuest and I found these in the digital collection of the NYS Library: "Final Report on the Battlefield of Gettysburg" http://nysl.nysed.gov/uhtbin/cgisirsi/FGyhNrLiG4/NYSL/226550018/503/71554 "New York in the War of the Rebellion, 1861-1865". http://nysl.nysed.gov/uhtbin/cgisirsi/mmlxY3OOix/NYSL/226550018/503/79097 --- On Mon, 5/31/10, Fred <saarf@attglobal.net> wrote: ...more information on the 124th... Fred

Thanks for this information. We toured the Museum some time ago, but didn't realize they had a web site with genealogy information. At 10:44 AM 5/31/2010, you wrote: >Hello, Listees - > >Just days ago, I found a gem of a website: "New York State Military Museum >and Veterans Research Center". Although still a work in progress, it is >packed with information and images concerning NYS residents who have >served, from the pre-Revolution through Desert Storm. > >* Regimental histories and rosters of members, mostly Civil War - where I >found the book from which the list of the 124th Regiment NY Volunteers >dead at Gettysburg was taken [my G3GF was in this Regiment for three years >as an ambulance driver; he survived, but perhaps saw and handled the dead >listed] > >* Downloadable spreadsheets for "Register of officers whose services >terminated prior to Jan. 1, 1858" > >* A number of online images of Civil War battle flags along with 2 >downloadable posters > >* Online images from various military eras. I like how they say, in a >caption to a 1609 drawing: "New York's first "citizen-soldiers" were >Native American warriors." > >Unfortunately, cutbacks have left them unable to take telephone inquiries, >but they invite people to write them with questions. > >http://dmna.state.ny.us/historic/mil-hist.htm