At The POORHOUSE STORY website http://www.poorhousestory.com we are DELIGHTED to tell you that the local community of NEWBURGH and surrounding areas are joining together to pay respect to the people who died at the Poorhouse for the Town/City of Newburgh by gathering together on JUNE 10th to CLEAN-UP the CEMETERY and put in place a system for its permanent maintenance in the future. YOU CAN JOIN THEM! Your participation in that event will demonstrate to the people of that community that you appreciate their good work; it will also demonstrate to officials in other communities that the preservation of poorhouses and their records and cemeteries is something about which the public CARES! You can see the announcement and read the history of that poorhouse by going to the ORANGE County page (temporarily at) http://www.getccs.com/phl/ORANGE.htm The POORHOUSE STORY website is undergoing revision so links to the pages may change over the next few days. (Our apologies that the page with the HISTORY of that poorhouse is still a little messy-looking ... Maddie, is trying to clean up my HTML mistakes, sigh ...) but please look at http://www.getccs.com/phl/historyrelief.htm If you view it with Internet Explorer it will look much better than it currently does with Netscape. (Scroll to the bottom to see more information regarding the clean-up and the people who are leading it.) Please do NOT e-mail me for further information. Contacts are given in the announcement on the ORANGE County page. (And, besides, I am leaving on a business trip for about 8 days; so your e-mail would not be answered very quickly!) Thanks, The Poorhouse Lady (aka=Linda Crannell)

Surnames that I'm researching in Orange County: ALLISON: My earliest known ancestor, my G5 grandfather Joseph ALLISON, moved to Goshen in Orange County, NY in 1725 and died there in 1755. I have obtained a copy of Joseph Allison's will, which he wrote in 1752, from the NY State Archives which lists the names of his children. They are Joseph, Richard, Richardson, Thomas, Cornelius, Benjamin, Phoebe, Sarah, Elizabeth, Isaac and William. They all lived in Orange County. I trace my ancestry back to Joseph through two of his sons, Richardson and Isaac. DAVIS: Isaac ALLISON, Jr. (Joseph's grandson) married Mary DAVIS. The father of Mary DAVIS may have been Gilliam DAVIS. KETCHAM: Richardson ALLISON's wife may have been Anne KETCHAM. KNAPP: Richardson's son, James ALLISON, married Amy Keziah KNAPP. JENNINGS: Joseph's daughter, Phoebe ALLISON, may have married Richard JENNINGS. I'll be very happy to share info with anyone researching any of these names. Thanks. Mary Allison Yonan <yonan@fgi.net>

Have been trying for ages to find the parents of both. Resided in or near Little Britain early to mid 1800s. I know their descendants only. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Terri

Hi OC researchers, A Roll Call is a good idea. I would like to suggest that we put the surnames we are researching in the subject line of our Roll Call messages. It's so much more informative and makes the scanning of 25 or more messages in the "inbox" so much easier. I'll send a separate message with my surnames in the subject line. Thanks. Mary

Hi, I am trying to find names of the children of Simeon Titsworth and Lydia or any other spouse. Dimeon was b. 1829 to Simeon Titsworth and Abegail Reed in Sussex NJ but he spent most of his life in Orange Co NY. Any information on this family will be appreciated. Thanks Gena Theiss in Louisville Ky

Hi All : I'm making an inquiry about my gr-gr-gr-grandfather and his wife. They were Jonathan Coleman and Mary Tuthill. They were both from the Blooming Grove area. At the moment, I have no idea as to when or where they were married except that it was probably somewhere in Orange County. Jonathan and Mary had several children two being Samuel born 6 Aug 1813 and Nathan born 16 May 1809 somewhere in Orange County, probably in the Blooming Grove area. I have more names of children but no dates of birth as yet. The names came from the "Estate Papers" of Jonathan Coleman which are located in Yates County where he and Mary resided until their death. It's also where the two son's listed above resided till their deaths. Anything information would be of help. Thank you. Sincerely Steve Wilder

Names in subject line as per request. Thank you (Realize that these names cross county lines) Specifically I seek a Benjamin lafurge or laforge, and also a marriage for hendrick vroom and charlotte brown. Suggestions are greatly appreciated. VAL To: <NYORANGE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > >

How about a roll call of surnames everyone is searching? Perhaps we can make some connections, and fill in some blanks.... :) Julie Hesson Aberdeen, OH Searching for the elusive: ASHBY, John M. DECKER, Levi

I need some general advice... I will be traveling to Goshen and plan to do some family research. I 'd like to know about the OCGS and their library- hours, fees, how "open" the resources are, etc. From the way things sound on this list I'll bet there are friendly folks there but any helpful tips would be appreciated. Thanks Liz Weislogel Evanston, IL

Hello Listers of Orange County I have joined in MSN Messenger. So I can also be reached through the following if you have problems reaching me at bluroc@email.msn.com The new email is bluroc@msn.com Sorry for any complications in reaching me Patricia Corney Quakertown PA USA

It has been a while since I have posted an inquiry and have since gathered additional information. Any help in identifying the parents of SOLOMON OWEN greatly appreciated! Joyce Keats, Prescott, AZ This is what I know: SOLOMON OWEN b. 1 May 1789 Orange Cty, d. 14 Jan 1866 Wallkill, m. (1) 27 Aug 1809 MARY FOLKNER b. 12 Apr 1792 Scotland, d. 7 Dec 1835 probably Warwick, daughter of JAMES FOLKNER and ISABELL DUGLASS. SOLOMON m.(2) SARAH b. abt 1789 NJ, d.bet. 1860-1865 Wallkill. SOLOMON was in MINISINK in 1820, WARWICK in 1825, 1830 & 1835. He was in WALLKILL from 1840 until he died in 1866. After his death in 1866, his surviving children sold two parcels of land. The locations for them shown below were taken from the deeds. A letter to a cousin dated 1835 written by DANIEL G. OWEN has the names JOHN and JANE CORNWELL at the bottom. children: DANIEL G. OWEN, b. 27 Feb 1811, d. 19 Oct 1886. Spouse: RUTH 1866 location: Bloomingburgh, Sullivan Cty. WILLIAM A. OWEN, b. 24 Apr 1813, d. 6 Aug 1871. spouse: MERRANDA 1866 location: Freetown Corner > Marathon, Courtland Cty. HIRAM OWEN, b. 1 Oct 1814, d. 13 Jan 1815 BETSEY ANN OWEN, b. 24 Nov 1815, d. 24 Dec 1833 PHANNA/THELMA M./FANNY OWEN, b. 24 Jan 1817. Spouse: GABRIEL CORBIN 1866 location: Marathon, Courtland Cty. JESSE/JESSIE W. OWEN, b. 16 Jan 1819, Minisink, d. 10 Jun 1900, Danbury, Fairfield, CT. Spouse: HANNAH S. HOLMES daughter of MOSES HOLMES and MARY WRIGHT. 1866 location: Dairyland, Ulster Cty. HARRIET E. OWEN, b. 18 Apr 1821, d. 11 May 1893. Not married - lived with sister SARAH after her father died. 1866 location: Wallkill > Middletown, Orange Cty. JULIA A. OWEN, b.17 Apr 1823, d.24 May 1877. Spouse: SAMUEL RIFENBARY 1866 location: Kingston, Ulster Cty. MARGARET J. OWEN, b. 14 May 1825, d. 27 Jan 1882. Spouse: ELIJAH SHIMER 1866 location: Mount Hope, Orange Cty. MARY OWEN, b. 23 Sep 1827, d. 16 Sep 1838 SARAH A. OWEN, b. 13 May 1831. Spouse: MILES A. RAY 1866 location: Wallkill > Middletown, Orange Cty.

For the last few years, I have been working with <mailto:RWhite4853@aol.com>Ruthe White, <mailto:bmcmanis@rochester.rr.com>Bea McManis, and others to place William Drake -- who md. Eunice Helme and was father of (among others) three pioneers of Genesee Co., NY -- among the many William Drakes who lived in New York State ca.1750-1850. After much frustration and many dead ends, I'm pleased to report that this William is William4 Drake (in the line of John3 and Christina Kermer, John2 and Martha Oldfield, Jesayas1 and Aeltje Adams Brouwer Drake), b. May 04, 1758, bapt. August 31, 1760, Dutch Ref. Ch., Smithfield, Northampton, PA, d. June 18, 1828, aged 70y 1m 14d, bd. First Gayhead Cemetery, Ira Vail Road, Cairo, Greene, NY. This places him in the family of Drakes that resided at various times during the 17th-18th Centuries in Brooklyn, Queens, Orange, Dutchess, Albany, Ulster, and Genesee Counties (NY) and in Smithfield (now Stroudsberg), Northampton (now Monroe), PA. And links him to the English, Dutch, and French Drake wives' families in this line (e.g., Grassett, Oldfield, Kermer, Verdon, Brouwer). While I have not yet posted (nor do I have) info on all of the siblings in this line, I have now posted the following: -- a <http://web.mit.edu/mboleary/www/Searls/William_Drake_ISO.html>description of the line and the original analysis of the many Wm Drakes in NYS ca1750-1850, -- a GED2HTML <http://www.mit.edu/~mboleary/Searls/d0003/g0000015.html#I00361>web tree of this Drake line, -- a <http://web.mit.edu/mboleary/www/Searls/johndrake.html>photo of William's son John Drake (my 4th gt grandfather), and -- <http://web.mit.edu/mboleary/www/Searls/drakesources.html>key sources on this line of Drakes. This "Drake-through," was based on a tombstone transcription for William and his wife, Eunice Helme Drake in the First Gayhead Cemetery, Greene Co., NY. Many thanks to <mailto:shasenkopf@yahoo.com>Sylvia Hasenkopf for this transcription and her excellent <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygreen2/index.htm>Greene County site! Unlike the Drakes of CT, the Drakes of NY, PA, and NJ still have no authoritative history/genealogy and much misinformation about them remains in circulation (e.g., the erroneous identification of John2 Drake's wife as Magdalena Brouwer, instead of his actual wife, Martha Oldfield). This "Drake-thru" places the William who was left unplaced by Bennett & White, in their excellent 1971 NYGBR article on the Helmes family, and by <http://www.beekmansettlers.com/>Frank Doherty in his hallmark work on the settlers of the Beekman Patent, Dutchess County, NY. I invite you to check out the pages above and welcome corrections, additions, questions, etc. from any and all interested folks interested in these Drakes. I also welcome hearing from anyone with info on this line, and especially any info that: -- contradicts or supports this identification of William; -- pertains to William and Eunice's children (i.e., John who md. Clarissa Worth, Samuel who md. Sylvia Thorn, Jessamine who md. Mary ?, James who md. Hannah Blackmore, Mary "Polly" who md. Silas Bullock, Claudius who md. Lydia Brewster, Ransom who md. Loretta Jump, Susan who md. Moses Cooke, Catherine who md. Horace Jump, and Joseph -- about whom I have no marriage info but whom I assume died s.p., since he alone was buried with his parents) and their descendants; -- documents the ancestry of Christina Kermer, wife of John3 (John2, Jesayas1) Drake; -- documents the death of John3 Drake -- bef. Feb 06, 1779 and probably in PA; -- fleshes out the migrations of John3 from Queens Co., NY (where he was born in 1722) to Smithfield, PA (where he md in 1749) to Long Island (where his son Samuel was supposedly born in 1753) back to Smithfield (where his sons Wm4 and Jesse were bapt. in 1760) to Damascus, Wayne, PA (where his kids Benjamin and Elizabeth were born in 1766 and 1767) to ___, where he died; -- fleshes out the migrations of William4, from ___ (where he was b. 1758), to Smithfield, PA (where he was baptized in 1760), to Dutchess County (where son John was b. 1781), to Greene Co (where some books list his sons Samuel and James as being born in 1783 and 1786), to Catskill Town, Albany, NY (where he is prob the Wm Drake listed in the 1790 Census), to ____, Greene Co., NY (where he shows up in the 1800 and 1810 Censuses) to Cairo, Greene, NY (where he appears in the 1820 Census), to the Cairo, Greene Co., NY (where he was buried in 1828); and -- fleshes out William4's land transactions. Many thanks to all of the correspondents (including members of DRAKE-L, GREENE-L, DUTCHESS-L, etc.) who've helped piece this together. Best regards, Michael ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Boyer O'Leary MIT Sloan School of Management Organization Studies PhD Program 2 Elm Court, Somerville, MA 02144-2542, Tel 617/776-7352 [Home] Fax 810/885-2514 e-mail: mboleary@mit.edu, michael.oleary@alumni.duke.edu [lifetime]

I have acquired the 1870 US Census for the City and Town of Newburgh. I am willing to do lookups for people. If you know the page number it would help me a great deal as I don't have alot of free time. Thanks. Please put in the subject line Newburgh 1870 census. Robin Galage Ireland: Coyle, Dennegan, Woods, Brophy, Kerwin, Burke, Farley, Sherry, Cooper, Scott, Brown, Moore, Peel England: Dewhurst, Derham, Cooper, Watson, Drinkwater Brooklyn NY: Coyle, Dennegan, Woods, Burke, Farley, Gerken, Christianson Newburgh NY: New WIndsor NY: McKinney, Jennings, Owens, Miller, Jones, Scott, Cornwall NY: Brown, Peel, Kerwin, Brophy, Derham, Galage Italy/Dobbs Ferry NY: Casadone, Galage, Gallace, Salerno, DiGiorgio

Would someone like to pass the following to the appropiate List in the USA. Found in the local Harrogate, (Yorkshire, England) Newspaper of 24 April 1945. .> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Harrogate Herald - 24th April 1945 > > Father W J Bickerdike officiated at the wedding at St Joseph's Church, > Harrogate, on Saturday, of Miss Doreen Wilson Turner, eldest daughter > of Mr and Mrs A R Turner, 14 Chestnut Grove, Bilton, Harrogate, and Sgt > John Papp, United States Army, third son of Mr and Mrs Papp, of > Trenton, New Jersey. > > Given away by her father, the bride wore a dress of figured taffeta, > with feathered head-dress and veil, and pearls, and carried a bouquet > of carnations. She was attended by her sister, Miss Jean Turner, and > her cousin, Miss John Alsop, who were respectively dressed in blue > taffeta, and peach figured broche. They both wore silver necklaces, and > carried bouquets of pink and yellow roses. > > Staff Sergeant Nicholas Wisneski was best man, and Staff Sergeant James > Morris groomsman. > > For travelling to Blackpool for the honeymoon, the bride wore a rust > and turquoise suit. > > > ==== YORKSGEN Mailing List ==== > Problems with Yorksgen? Visit the FAQ site > http://website.lineone.net/~brian/yorksgen/FAQs.htm > >

Would anyone know if the OCGS has this book? "Journal of the Voyage Of Charles Clinton from Ireland to America 1729" In Olde Ulster, Vol 4(Jan- Dec 1908). I am interested in pgs 175-183. Sarah Beattie

Already received about Ten.. Once I get through with thoses, I'll give others a chance. Only have the tapes for 3 weeks,,

I've ordered the Deed Index to the Orange Co, NY. I've already looked up my families but would be willing to help others. The more info you provide, the better research I can do. I will try to write down as much as I can. Remember.. I only have surnames (A-H).

Dear Susan, Families of the Ramapos with supplement The Descendants of Baileytown by Marjorie Stevenot. Another OCGS reprint of Marjorie's sought after books, but this time there are two books in one. 1999 (1996&1998) reprint, soft cover, 242 pages. Regular $20.00 Introductory Special: $17.50 Send a check to Orange County Genealogical Society Attn: Orders 101 Main Street Goshen, NY 10924 Dan Burrows

I am trying to contact someone at the Orange County, NY Genealogical Society and can't seem to get a phone number for them. I am interested in purchasing a book that I have been told they have available. Would anyone know how I can reach them? The book is called: 'Families of the Ramapos' by Marjorie Smeltzer-Stevenot. I called her and she told me that the Orange Co Gene Soc had it reprinted and was selling it. I just need to know the price and where to send the money order or check. I can be reached at: email - sjhcamp@aol.com phone - (508) 429-8319 mail - 42 Locust Street, Holliston, MA Thank you.... Susan Hovencamp

Dear Robin and Margaret, This is a bit late, but looked this over carefully this morning - may not have time right now in the middle of moving to give all I found, but will start with the e-mail below. My comments in caps (sorry about that, but am in a hurry). In a message dated 5/1/2000 1:00:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > Subj: Webb Connection > Date: 5/1/2000 1:00:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time > From: ANALYTIX@valley.net (Robin Carpenter) > To: CARPENTER-L@rootsweb.com > > Margaret & Pheeb et al: > I've been muddling over the Carpenter-Webb thing ever since finding Isaac > Carpenter (ABC #298) and Jonathan Webb (d. 1801) buried together at Pine > Hill. The only family linkage I find (other than the previously known > Carman Carpenter-Mary Webb marriage) is via the Steward/Stewart family. > Here it is: > 1. Jonathan Webb's 1792 will names Margaret Steward as a daughter (EWOC). 1. pg. 48 NOTE THAT HIS WIFE'S NAME IS "PERNELLIPEE." PG. 187 WILLS OF SAMUEL WEBB, WALLKILL, 1820 MENTIONS PENELOPE AND SAMUEL BENNETT - I FOUND BENNETT CONNECTIONS AND ALSO BELIEVE BENNETT RELATED TO MY MOSES CARPENTER LATER IN ONONDAGA CO. - NOT SURE AND DON'T HAVE TIME TO ELABORATE AT THIS TIME, WHAT? MARGARET MIGHT KNOW. 2. ALSO NOTE ON THIS WILL THAT ROBERT THOMPSON AND ISAAC "KINNY" MAY ALSO BE RELATED THRU THE STATED MCKINNY RELATIONSHIP - IE. DANIEL CARPENTER, I THINK . (SEE YOUR # 4 BELOW, SOMEHOW I WAS THINKING DANIEL (MY BOOKS ARE PACKED WITH THE MOVE) I KNOW THAT THE THOMPSONS BOUNDED JOHN AND DANIEL CARPENTER IN THE DEEDS.) 3. ALSO RE CRANE SEE PG 252 WM CRANE SON STEPHEN AND DAU SALLY WEBB. ALSO NOTESMITHS, HULSE, AND MORES - ALL SOMEHOW SEEM TO BE CONNECTED TO EITHER THE CARPENTERS (OR MAYBE MY WISNERS - i DIDN' T HAVE TIME TO FOLLOW THRU AT THIS TIME WITH THOSE NAMES) > > 2. Isaac (#298) Carpenter's 1811 will has witnesses Asa Steward and > Lewis D. Steward. > 3. Isaac's Brother Benjamin Carpenter (#301) was married to Eunice > "Stewart" (per ABC) and his 1811 will names John "Steward" executor and > Silas "Stewart" witness (per EWOC). > Another possible connection is that Jonathan Webb's will has Isaac > "Kinny" for a witness (per EWOC), and Isaac Carpenter's (2nd) wife was > Susanna "McKinney" (per ABC). > All this may simply indicate they all lived nearby and used each other > for witnesses etc...but that usualy doesn't cause people to be buried > together (given that Pine Hill isn't some little neighborhood cemetery). I > don't remember seeing Steward's buried nearby...but I was not tuned-in to > the Steward name at the time, so I would probably not have noticed. > Does anyone know where Benjamin Carpenter #301 is buried? Anyone know > whethr Isaac Kinny and Susanna McKinney are of the same family? > Robin PG. 8 SAMUEL CARPENTER GOSHEN 1752/1752 will names Ch: samuel, wm, abrraham, john, joshua, richard, abiagail and martha and unborn. exec wait smith jr. and benjamin carpenter wit: james smith, samuel webb and jonathan webb pg 112 carman carpenter will name wit: samuel bennett and benjamin and abram webb Sorry about the messy e-mail. time is tough right now and I have to run. PG. 125 BENJAMIN GALE WILL SAONS : JAMES AND GILBERT BRADNER wit; FESTUS A. WEBB (GALES RELATED TO CARPENTERS) pG 255 DANIEL FULLERTON DAU ELIZABETH AND ANN MOORE WIT FESTUS a. WEBB, BENJAMIN CARPENTER, SILUS HULSE (REMEMBER JOHN CARPENTER M ABIGAIL MOORE DAU OF BENJAMIN MOORE) 95 HENRY TOWNSEND WILL 1803 GRANSON HENRY CARPENTER, WIT CHARLES WEBB THERE ARE MORE LESS DIRECT, BUT I REALLY HAVE TO GO NOW. PHOEBE > >