When you mentioned old photos from Newburgh. I am the same situation as you. We found an old photo album in my grandfather's attic. We could only identify a few of them since my grandfather's mind was not good. (he was 86 and had suffered a stroke). My photos are from W.H. Mapes at 64 Water Street in Newburgh. Maybe it was the street of photography? The photos are 1880 or so? Valerie Reynolds

> Subject: [NYOR] subject of email or Subject: [NYORANGE] subject of >email You have my vote, too. I suggested that very thing on another newsgroup that just had a roll call. So many people titled their posting "Roll Call." I deleted most of them without reading anything. Realize that you are ADVERTISING your families. It does us absolutely no good if our postings are not read. You have GOT to make it easy for the prospective reader, or they won't bother. Maximize the convenience for the other person by putting your subject as shown above, and you will improve your chances of an answer. Near the top of your letter, put the surnames you are interested in in CAPS. Some of us get quite a volume of e-mail, and we don't have time to wade through an entire letter to see what you may be trying to tell us.

Thanks to everyone on the list for the will help I recieved! I went to Goshen today and was able to find the wills I needed pretty easily. Unfortunately, of the 3 wills I would have liked, only one person actaully died with a will and he left everything to his wife. I was hoping to find a long lost relative but at least I have the documents. Now that I have actually done this for the first time, I see that it is not as scary as it might seem. I might even be able to return the favor some time and help someone else out on my next trip to Goshen. BTW, does anyone have info on the Goshen Social and Athletic Association? I've found out my ancestor, William C. Altmann, was quite involved with it around the early 1900's and would like to know if any of their yearbooks, etc., survive and are available somewhere. Thanks again for all the help. Kim Altmann

I am trying to pin down some old photos that I have found in an old album. Of course, nothing was written on them. They are from two studios in Newburgh. One was Karmel and the other was Culves? They were located on Water St. in Newburgh. Does anyone know of these studios and during what years they were in business. It would narrow down my pictures and that might tell me who they might be. Thanks. Robin Derham Galage Ireland: Coyle, Dennegan, Woods, Brophy, Kerwin, Burke, Farley, Sherry, Cooper, Scott, Brown, Moore, Peel England: Dewhurst, Derham, Cooper, Watson, Drinkwater Brooklyn NY: Coyle, Dennegan, Woods, Burke, Farley, Gerken, Christianson Newburgh NY/New Windsor NY/Cornwall NY: McKinney, Jennings, Owens, Miller, Jones, Scott, Brown, Peel, Kerwin, Brophy, Derham, Galage Italy/Dobbs Ferry NY: Casadone, Galage, Gallace, Salerno, DiGiorgio

I personally would LOVE a [NY-ORANGE] to precede any subject line on this list, as I filter my mail by this, and toss the email junk (previously called SPAM-mail) into the bin. I know this is automated on most lists I am on.... I am ok with ROLL CALL on a list I am on as a subject heading. I cannot read or write long drawn out subject lines inside my mailer. I can filter intellectually what I do not want to read electronically this way. I have a list of pet peeves of what things annoy/irritate/offend me personally, if you want to give it a read. Nalora

We already have " NYORANGE-L@rootwebcom " , it lists in the " TO " section in your e-mail. My e-mail has for example======== ( please enlarge ) from - To - Subject - Receive Sjhcamp@aol.com NYORANGE-L@rootsweb.com Subject Line of Messages Thu 6/1/2000 5:19 PM Thanks Joanne -----Original Message----- From: Ed and Mary Yonan [mailto:yonan@fgi.net] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:33 PM To: NYORANGE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Subject Line of Messages I agree that a prefix at the beginning of the Subject line would be an excellent idea. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Robin Carpenter <ANALYTIX@valley.net> To: NYORANGE-L@rootsweb.com <NYORANGE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 01, 2000 7:28 PM Subject: Re: Subject Line of Messages >Hi Susan: > sounds GREAT to me! >Robin c. > >At 05:19 PM 6/1/00 EDT, you wrote: >>Would anyone else like to see a prefix at the beginning of the Subject line >>for this list? I am subscribed to many lists and it is so much easier to >>keep track of my email if the rootsweb lists are set up this way. Maybe if >>others agree we could ask the listowner. Example: >> >> Subject: [NYOR] subject of email or Subject: [NYORANGE] subject of >>email >> >>Thanks for listening... >>Susan >> >> > > >

Hi Susan: sounds GREAT to me! Robin c. At 05:19 PM 6/1/00 EDT, you wrote: >Would anyone else like to see a prefix at the beginning of the Subject line >for this list? I am subscribed to many lists and it is so much easier to >keep track of my email if the rootsweb lists are set up this way. Maybe if >others agree we could ask the listowner. Example: > > Subject: [NYOR] subject of email or Subject: [NYORANGE] subject of >email > >Thanks for listening... >Susan > >

I agree that a prefix at the beginning of the Subject line would be an excellent idea. Mary -----Original Message----- From: Robin Carpenter <ANALYTIX@valley.net> To: NYORANGE-L@rootsweb.com <NYORANGE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 01, 2000 7:28 PM Subject: Re: Subject Line of Messages >Hi Susan: > sounds GREAT to me! >Robin c. > >At 05:19 PM 6/1/00 EDT, you wrote: >>Would anyone else like to see a prefix at the beginning of the Subject line >>for this list? I am subscribed to many lists and it is so much easier to >>keep track of my email if the rootsweb lists are set up this way. Maybe if >>others agree we could ask the listowner. Example: >> >> Subject: [NYOR] subject of email or Subject: [NYORANGE] subject of >>email >> >>Thanks for listening... >>Susan >> >> > > >

Researching in Orange County: John Hancon b. 14 Jul 1835, New Windsor, Cornwall Robert J. Dunlop d. 6 Apr 1882 James Emslie b. 1818, Cornwall Margaret May Wiley b. Oct 1851, Cornwall Daniel Lunsman b. Jan 1845, Cornwall William H. Clark b. 1804 purveyor, West Point Thank you, Seana Coughlin Longwood, Florida

I whole heartedly agree that this would be most useful. It is also helpful in tryng to find saved messages. Mary Alice in CA

Would anyone else like to see a prefix at the beginning of the Subject line for this list? I am subscribed to many lists and it is so much easier to keep track of my email if the rootsweb lists are set up this way. Maybe if others agree we could ask the listowner. Example: Subject: [NYOR] subject of email or Subject: [NYORANGE] subject of email Thanks for listening... Susan

Researching: Burger Myndertse Van Iveren and Elsje Meyer, "Quassaick's Kill" now Newburg. History of early Lutheran Church in the area. Johannes Lahmeyer, Palatine. Patrick Mc Gregory and his expedition of Scotch Presbyterians, the first white settlers in that area in the late 1680s. Mc Gregory Van Every born in "Arents" Orange County ca 1723 Le Meyer Every, born ca 1710 place of birth unknown. Sharilyn Whitaker

WHITE, Ellen (Helene) Born c 1835 MURPHY/WHITE, Dennis/Ellen Married c 1860

I've searched for HOLMES and this is what I've found: Year Grantee Grantor Book Page 1830 Charles Holmes Gilbert Holmes 38 413 1830 Gilbert Holmes Daniel Holmes 38 411 1832 Charles Holmes Daniel Holmes 44 377 1832 Daniel Holmes Daniel Holmes 44 379 1834 Wm. Holmes Benj. Carpenter 49 483 1834 Charles Holmes Benj. Carpenter 49 483 1834 Daniel Holmes Benj. Carpenter 49 483 1834 Gilbert Holmes Benj. Carpenter 49 483 1834 Joseph Halsted Benj. Carpenter 49 483 1836 Gilbert Holmes Alanson Randol 54 392 1838 Burroughs Daniel Holmes 62 64 1839 Burroughs Ebenezer Howell 64 93 1842 Gilbert Benj. Gardner 75 133 1843 Gilbert James Young 77 77 1843 Gilbert George Mather 77 393 1843 Gilbert David Dubois 78 213 1845 Charles John Brown 85 272 1850 Charles Isaac Williams 103 338 1851 Gilbert Hiram Holmes 110 139 1851 Hiram James Denton 110 308 1864 Daniel John Bockover 179 382 1865 Edward & Britain Charles Shoor 187 402 Hope this helps someone In a message dated Tue, 30 May 2000 11:26:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bunny-jo@webtv.net (Jacqueline Bunnell~Ogden) writes: << Thanks for the lookup offer. Would you please check for HOLMES, specifically Russell Holmes, c1855? Jackie bunny-jo@webtv.net >>

In a message dated 05/31/2000 11:36:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, smickley@ptd.net writes: << John TUTHILL was possibly the son of John and Temperance SMITH, m. abt. 1752. his sister was Freegift TUTHILL living in Orange County in 1734)>> Yes, your John is a son of JOHN and TEMPERANCE (SMITH) TUTHILL. FREEGIFT TUTHILL was definitely MALE, (as were all others of the same given name). << Who were Temperance SMITH's parents?>> Temperance was a daughter of JAMES SMITH and JERUSHA TOPPING. <Does anyone have more information on Ebenezer Holly?> From "Proceedings to determine boundaries of the Wawayanda and Cheesecocks Patents", Independent Repulican Printing Company, Goshen NY 1915, p. 17: Ebenezer Holly, of Wawayanda, age 87 (in 1785), "came here with his father in April 1715." Therefore, Ebenezer was born approximately 1698. Unfortunately, his father's name is not stated, and it doesn't say WHERE they came from. Happy hunting, Jeannie-ology : )

From WANTAGE RECORDER, Friday, May 17, 1912: Mrs. Susan E. Dikeman died at the home of her son, Edwin J., in Goshen, NY on Thursday last week of heart trouble, aged 69 years 7 months and 16 days. She was a daughter of the late Jackson D. and Sarah (Martin) Jay, and was born in Deckertown this county. She married Edwin Dikeman, of Goshen, November 18th, 1875 and they resided in that place. He died seven years ago. One son named above survives them. The funeral took place at her son's on Sunday at 3:45 p.m., Rev. F. S. Haines officiating. Interment in St. James Cemetery. This is another member in my family line. Mona Bross Hylton, INdiana Researching BROSS, VANDERHUFF, DUNN, CRABTREE, GIVEANS, McCONNELL, LITTLE, among others.

These are my Orange County, NY ancestors: PLEASE NOTE - critical information is from secondary sources and its credibility should be treated as such. However, several sources have been cross-referenced to determine the lineage's for TUTHILL and BEARDSLEY including research conducted at the archives of the OCHS. HAND/TITUS Lines: Elias HAND and Guin. WILLIAMS (b. in Wales - 1792), m. in 1811, bur. in Cornwall-on-Hudson Quaker Burial Grounds (Primary sources) John TITUS, son of Thomas, m. Eliza HAND ,dau. of Elias HAND (primary sources) Elizabeth TOWNSEND, dau. of William TOWNSEND, m. Thomas TITUS, son of John (descended from Robert TITUS through the Quaker lines). (Primary sources) BEARDSLEY/TUTHILL lines: Juliette BEARDSLEY, dau. of John WELLS BEARDSLEY, m. Darius ALLEN of Brooklyn, NY (descended from Samuel ALLING of Oyster Bay, LI). (primary sources) John WELLS BEARDSLEY, b. 3 Jul 1776, son of Dr. Ebenezer BEARDSLEY of New Haven, CT and descended from William BEARDSLEY (John, Ebenezer, John, John, Samuel, William), m. Elizabeth TUTHILL in 1806, dau. of John TUTHILL and Mary (or her sister, Anna) BULL. (secondary sources) John TUTHILL was possibly the son of John and Temperance SMITH, m. abt. 1752. (John, John, James (his sister was Freegift TUTHILL living in Orange County in 1734), "Chalker John", John, Henry and Bridget of Norfolk, England and Southhold, LI m. 1634). (secondary sources and a lot of detective work on my part to identify possible ancestry of John) Mary (or Anna) BULL was the daughter of John BULL and Hannah HOLLY. John BULL was the son of William BULL and Sarah WELLS as documented in the Sarah WELLS and William BULL book. This book shows my ancestry all the way down to Juliette BEARDSLEY and Darius ALLEN. Questions: Who was Ebenezer BEARDSLEY's wife? I have her first name as Martha and I suspect her last name was WELLS since their son was named John WELLS BEARDSLEY. Who were Temperance SMITH's parents? Temperance SMITH's son was John TUTHILL who married Mary (or Anna) BULL. Does anyone have more information on Ebenezer HOLLY? I would enjoy corresponding with other researchers, especially on the BEARDSLEY and TUTHILL lines. In researching the OCGS archives it appears that this possible answer to John TUTHILL's lineage has been overlooked in prior research. Is that true? I appreciate any critique of this possible line. Comparing notes can only make the research better. Thanks, Sue TITUS-MICKLEY

Navin Fitzgerald in Newburgh, Orange Cty, NY

Wantage Recorder, Friday, June 10, 1910: Death of Jacob V. Little One of the Foremost Farmers in Sussex County--A man of Mark, Religiously and Socially. Friday last week Jacob Vanderhuff Little passed away at his home in Vernon township, at the ripe old age of 80 years, 1 month and 22 days. Mr. Little had been an invalid several months and gradually sank to rest--a rest that was not entirely unexpected, owing to his enfeebled condition from age. He was born in that township, April 11, 1830 a son of Joseph S. Rachel (Vanderhuff) LIttle, and was one of thirteen children, of whom two survive him: Owen J. LIttle of this borough, and William S. Little, of near town. Three children survive him: Joseph S. Little, of the homestead farm; Frank H. Little, of New York, and Mrs. Lewis Van Sickle of Van Sickle's Station in Wantage. His widow, surviving him, was formerly Miss Sarah M. Demarest, daughter of Samuel Demarest of New Milford. The deceased was a very active man and a hard-worker until the infirmities of advancing age compelled him to lay aside the active duties of life. Throughout his life he adhered to the business of a farmer. He is reported to have left a very comfortable fortune. He was one of the very faithful members of the Wantage First Baptist Church, and he and Mrs. Little, while his health permitted, were invariably in attendance at all the functions of the church, no matter what the weather might be. He will be much missed. The funeral was held at the Baptist Church in town on Tuesday at 11 a.m., Rev. E. E. Loux officiating. Interment in the Deckertown Union Cemetery. The pall bearers were Evi Vandruff, George Shepherd, Levi Hall, George Dymock, W. Scott Martin and J. Anson McBride. Rev. Mr. Loux, in his sermon, told of the deceased's long connection with the church, more than sixty years, in which he had officiated as deacon so long and faithfully. He also spoke very earnestly of his study of the Bible and his manner of thinking upon it. The columns of the local newspapers add to the force of the reverend gentleman's sermon, for the deceased was a liberal contributor for many years to probably all the papers of this county and to religious journals abroad. His topics embraced religious thoughts, and showed a broad scope of inquiry and sincerity; also current matters, upon which he argued forcibly." If you can connect with this family, please make contact with me. Mona Bross Hylton in Indiana

From the NJ Herald, August 1, 1912: Martin Bross Cox, a highly respected resident of Vernon township, died at his home in Vernon on Monday last after an illness of a month, at the age of 78 years. Mr. Cox was born at Monroe, this county, January 24, 1834. In the early sixties he moved to Middletown and engaged actively in business as a carpenter and builder, and constructed a large number of the prominent buildings in that city. About fifteen years ago he returned to his native county and had since resided at Vernon. He is survived by his widow, who was Mary C. Winans, of Vernon, also two sons, one Mayor R. M. Cox, of Middletown, one daughter and two brothers. The funeral services will be held at the Episcopal Church, Vernon this Thursday afternoon." From the Wantage Recorder, Friday, August 2, 1912: Martin B. Cox died at his home in Vernon township on Monday, aged 78 years, 6 months and 5 days. He was a son of James M. and Phebe (Bross) Cox, and was born in Monroe, N. J. He was a farmer during his early career, but later removed to Middletown where he carried on a business as a building contractor. Later he removed to the farm in Vernon where he died. He married first Miss Sophia Penny, of Mount Hope, N. Y., and after her death he married for his second wife, Mary C. Winans, of Vernon. She survives him with three children of his first marriage: Mayor Roslyn M. Cox, and Franklin P., of Middletown city; and Mrs. Maurice H. Small of Oshkosh, Wis., where her husband is a Professor of the University of Wisconsin. The funeral takes place this Thursday at 2 p.m. in Vernon Episcopal Church. Interment in the cemetery near there." If this helps someone, I would be glad to have you make contact with me. Mona Bross Hylton, Indiana