Quoting Kathy Campbell <[email protected]>: > Does anyone know how far back the Middletown obituary archive online goes? I > tried doing a search in the 1999 paper, and I didn't find anything that even > looked like an obit. > I believe the online edition of the Middletown Times-Herald Record is presently only keeping obituaries online for a few weeks, unless the family pays to keep them on longer. (Previously they had obituaries online back to 2001 or so.) I believe the Newborgh Free Library has an index on paper in its Local History room that may cover the 1999 timespan.

Does anyone know how far back the Middletown obituary archive online goes? I tried doing a search in the 1999 paper, and I didn't find anything that even looked like an obit. Thanks. Kathy

According to the 1900 Census for Minisink, Orange Co., NY (where Westtown is located): Joseph Bross b. Aug 1834 Harriet A. Bross, wife, b. Nov 1840 George Bross, son, b. Apr 1880 They were living immediately next to: Henry Bross, b. Apr 1872 Josephine, wife, b. June 1870 Dilbert Buchanan, stepson, b. Sep 1882 Ida May Buchana, stepdaughter, b. Aug 1888 Libbie Bross, daughter, b. Feb 1896 According to the 1880 Census for Wantage, Sussex Co., NJ: Joseph Bross, 42 Harriet, 40, wife Anna, 14, daughter Phebe, 11, daughter Henry, 8, son William, 5, son Elizabeth, 3, daughter George, 3/12 b. Apr, son Nancy Bross, 77, mother Hope that helps! Lisa Stitt ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:48 PM Subject: [NYORANGE] Harriet BROSS, died 1906; interment, Westtown > Can anyone help me with the husband, parentage and son of Harriet A. > BROSS? >>From her obituary published in the Sussex Independent, (NJ): > > "Harriet A. BROSS died at the home of her son, at Waterloo, Friday > evening, > age 71 years. Funeral services were held at the home, Monday, at one > o'clock, conducted by Mr. Frazier. Interment at Westtown." > > She died 4 August 1906. > > I am trying to learn if she might have been the first wife of Peter V. > BROSS, who later moved to Lackawanna, PA and married secondly, Myra Ann > STRAWN. > > Thanks for any help. > > Mona Bross Hylton, Richmond, IN

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Mona, I have Harriet A. Decker, b. 2 Nov 1840 in Minisink, d. 3 Aug 1906, wife of Joseph H. Bross, m. 16 Mar 1859. She was buried in Unionville Cemetery, Westtown. Some of my info came from a 1991 FGS by Judy Henderson. [I don't know if I still have a copy.] For further info, contact me directly. Don Poetzsch in CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:48 PM Subject: [NYORANGE] Harriet BROSS, died 1906; interment, Westtown > > Can anyone help me with the husband, parentage and son of Harriet A. > BROSS? >>From her obituary published in the Sussex Independent, (NJ): > > "Harriet A. BROSS died at the home of her son, at Waterloo, Friday > evening, > age 71 years. Funeral services were held at the home, Monday, at one > o'clock, conducted by Mr. Frazier. Interment at Westtown." > > She died 4 August 1906. > > I am trying to learn if she might have been the first wife of Peter V. > BROSS, who later moved to Lackawanna, PA and married secondly, Myra Ann > STRAWN. > > Thanks for any help. > > Mona Bross Hylton, Richmond, IN >

Can anyone help me with the husband, parentage and son of Harriet A. BROSS? From her obituary published in the Sussex Independent, (NJ): "Harriet A. BROSS died at the home of her son, at Waterloo, Friday evening, age 71 years. Funeral services were held at the home, Monday, at one o'clock, conducted by Mr. Frazier. Interment at Westtown." She died 4 August 1906. I am trying to learn if she might have been the first wife of Peter V. BROSS, who later moved to Lackawanna, PA and married secondly, Myra Ann STRAWN. Thanks for any help. Mona Bross Hylton, Richmond, IN

Quoting Kathy Campbell <[email protected]>: > Does anyone of any particular reason there might not have been an issue of > June 16th, 1916 edition of the Middletown Daily Times Press? Could that have > been a holiday of some sort??? > Are you sure there wasn't one, and it's not just that no copy survived to be microfilmed?

Does anyone of any particular reason there might not have been an issue of June 16th, 1916 edition of the Middletown Daily Times Press? Could that have been a holiday of some sort??? Thank you. Kathy

I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I was trying to find someone's obituary in the 1998 Archives for the Times-Herald, but it doesn't appear as if obituaries were indexed. Does anyone know if the archives are on their site in a different location, or where I could find an obituary from that year? Thank you! Kathy Campbell

For Kathy Campbell <[email protected]> specifically, and for others as general info. You can find a listing of Howell's cemetery at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~now1/howellscem.html Links to other cemetery listings for NY and PA can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/jf_game/cemeteries.html Please note...many cemetery listings posted online are incomplete. That is, there are more people buried in those cemeteries than the online listings include. I can not tell you whether the online listing for any particular cemetery is complete or incomplete, but I've seen several that only listed a fraction of the burials. You might also want to look at the 1782 Howells' Baptist Church listings at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~now1/ch_bapthowls.html Good luck. I hope the above help. Marty Irons

Can anyone tell me if there is a list available of burials in Howells Cemetery, either online or in publication somewhere? Thank you. Kathy Campbell

Would anyone have access to the records of the Goodwill Presbyterian Church in Montgomery? I'd really like to know if there is a baptism for Mary/Mary Ellen or Ellen Stevens about 1795. I think she is the daughter of Nicholas Stevens and Ellen Brandon, who were married there in 1793. He looks to be the son of another Nicholas and lived in Newburgh. I'd like to see if she married Thomas Rogers about 1812. Their first child, Nicholas, was born in 1813. They added William and maybe Mary (1818) before moving to the Ringwood area of New Jersey before 1820. This is a BIG brickwall and any help would be greatly appreciated. Take care, Kevin

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Hi List: I'm new to your list and was wondering if I could get someone to help me out with some obituaries? They all died in Warwick and are buried in the Warwick cemetery. I have pictures of their gravestones, but would like obits if possible and any other information you may have. Abraham FORSHEE died 4 Feb 1864 + Sally MAGIE died 24 Jan 1873 Mary Elizabeth FORSHEE died 5 Nov 1895 + George Augustus CRISSEY died 22 Jan 1894 Cornelius FORSHEE died 3 Apr 1833 + Elizabeth Cole died 19 Mar 1820 David FORSHAY died 10 Aug 1851 + Maria BENEDICT died 12 Jun 1886 Any help with these obits I will be very greatful. Bill Forshay- San Antonio, TX Researching: Forshay / Foshay - NY,NJ,Canada; Beirschenk - MN NY Germany; Wild - Bohemia, WI; Fleischman - Bohemia, WI; Nelson / Nilsson - Sweden, MN. -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10

Hello listers, My great great grandfather, Daniel B. Silsbe, was born ca 1809 in St. Lawrence County, New York. He married Sarah Jane Ellis in the early 1830's who was born in Minisink, Orange, New York in 1811. in the 1840 census they appear in the home of Sarah's father, Joseph Ellis in Minisink, New York. In 1836 their son, Joseph E. Silsbe(y) was born in Yates, County, New York, and in 1837, John B. Silsbe(y) was born same place, and in 1839, William H. (who died in 1858 at 18). In 1843, Emily Caroline Silsby was born in Minisink, Orange, NY, as were James Watson Silsbee 1845, and Anne Elizabeth Silsbey 1848. By the 1850 and 1855 censuses, the family is in the Tyrone, Steuben, New York area. Mary Jane 1850 and Sarah Jennie 1853, were born in Tyrone, Steuben, NY. This family has been hard, if not impossible to trace, jumping around as they do, but I am hoping there is someone out there who might be able to help me with some information. Thanks so much for any little tidbit!

Forwarded with permission of author. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [CTLITCHF] AN ALTERNATIVE TO BE CONSIDERED Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:35:56 -0600 Resent-From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:36:59 EDT From: Bill Waterhouse <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] As I read of the many on this & other lists who have become frus- trated by being unable to find the burial sites of their ancestors, family members, or others, despite many hours of researching & walking of cemeteries; I would like to point out another possibility which few, if any, consider...that being cremation. Cremation is not a new concept as the disposing of human bodies on a funeral pyre -usually one body at a time-dates back in America, at least, to Colonial times. Most of us have read of the; albeit horrific; body pyres that were utilized, usually after the biggest of the battles of the Civil War, to dispose of the often thousands of bodies which accumulated as a result of the fighting. This was done out of necessity as the digging of individual, or even mass graves, was out of the question due to lack of manpower. However, the most compelling reason to dispose of the bodies as quickly as possible was to prevent the spread of disease which was rampant at the time. Very few probably realize that of the 250,000-300,000 men of the Confederate Army who died during the war, only one quarter of those deaths were incurred in battle, with the remainder dying of disease. Union Army deaths due to disease were somewhat lesser due to the availabilty of more sophisicated medicines & techniques. Several years after the War the crematory furnace was developed & many funeral establishments had them installed in their facilities leading to the wider useage of this method. I recently spent the better part of a year attempting to find the burial places of an ancestor, a CW veteran, & his wife who both died in Chicago, with- out success. A search of the cemeteries in & around Chicago & of the National Cemeteries yielded no results either. In speaking later with a member of the branch of the family to which the deceased belonged, I learned that cremation was literally a tradition in that branch, & I was told of a scattering of ashes at sea & in various cemeteries in several states. Thus, after a period of 100 years have elapsed since the death of these two people, & with not finding any evidence of cemetery burials, I must 'assume' that even with- out any proof, that they were cremated. Also with many families not having the funds to purchase a cemetery plot, a gravestone, & other costs associated with a funeral, cremation was no doubt a lower cost alternative. Also, as the ashes are usually placed in an urn, rather than scattering the ashes, the urns could be kept at home, where the family members could feel that the deceased was "always close by." What might have happened to the urns through- out the ensuing years might well be "Another story." To those who might feel like they are 'chasing their tail' in attempting to find where their family member's remains are; this just may be another consideration to keep in mind. Bill Waterhouse Mystic, CT -END- ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

In a message dated 4/18/2006 1:49:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I am seeking information on Samuel Givens who was a Private in Col. > Dubois > Regiment during the Rev. War. My ancestor Jean Lamoreaux was in the same regiment. Your Samuel was probably a POW and taken maybe to the Sugar House prison. I did not see his name on the list of men who were on The Jersey prison ship. You can look here: _American Prisoners of the Revolution Names of 8000 Men Aboard the Old Jersey Prison ship_ (http://www.usmm.net/revdead.html#anchor266979) _Cornell University Making of America_ (http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&coll=moa&view=50&root=/moa/mono/beac0110/&tif=00025. TIF&cite=http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/moa-cgi?notisid=ANY7838) - mentions the heavy casualities of Col Du Bois- in a history of Cornwall: A list of the men taken at Fort Montgomery has been pie- served, and it appears there were two hundred and thirty-seven that failed to make their escape. In looking over the names we find but few familiar in the annals of our present town. They mostly belonged to the militia of Ulster and Orange county. The latter embraced principally the two regiments which had been organized in Cornwall at the outbreak of the war, then under the respective command of Colonel Zacha- riali Dubois and Colonel Jesse Woodhull, but their members are now largely represented in the records of towns subsequently erected from the original precinct. The militia were reported by Governor Clinton to have acted with great spirit.* They lost heavily in the action. Indeed the entire district was filled with the lamentations of those bereaved of husbands, fathers, and sons. * The regiments engaged were: colonel Dubois’ and colonel Woodhull’s, from corn- wall; colonel Ellison’s and colonel Mcclaughry’s, from New Windsor; colonel Has- brouck’s, from Newburgh; three regiments from other districts, and colonel Lamb’s artillery. The regiments were by no means full. The cornwall regiments were the last to leave the forts, and hence suffered the most severely in killed and prisoners. Valerie Reynolds

I don't know if you have received any help yet; I don't live there, but I have used some textbooks of the histories of Orange County and of Ulster County after locating info at HeritageQuest online that my ancestor was at the Battle of Fort Montgomery on the Hudson River, which happened at the same time your Samuel Givens disappeared. I checked HeritageQuest and Samuel is not listed there, so apparently no one filed later for a widow's or dependent's pension, if he was married. If he lived in the area prior to his death you may be able to find him or his parents in tax lists, patriot's lists, etc in the above mentioned histories at some libraries. Let me know if you want to be put in touch with one, if you are not near one that has them. Good luck, Pat On Apr 18, 2006, at 1:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > NYORANGE-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 35 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Givens ["Patricia Givens > Warner-Woolschlag] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from NYORANGE-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > > From: "Patricia Givens Warner-Woolschlager" <[email protected]> > Date: April 17, 2006 6:12:18 AM EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Givens > > > I am seeking information on Samuel Givens who was a Private in Col. > Dubois > Regiment during the Rev. War. He enlisted in February 1977 and was > missing > on Oct 6, 1977. Ulster County probate records show Samuel Givens > deceased intestate. Adm granted July 16 1788 to his son Joseph Givens > of > Montgomery. > > Any information would be greatly appreciated > >

I am seeking information on Samuel Givens who was a Private in Col. Dubois Regiment during the Rev. War. He enlisted in February 1977 and was missing on Oct 6, 1977. Ulster County probate records show Samuel Givens deceased intestate. Adm granted July 16 1788 to his son Joseph Givens of Montgomery. Any information would be greatly appreciated