Diane, I don't have real answers, but perhaps the 1850 census returns will provide more clues. It appears that Henry Burns and Hannah Miller began married life in Sullivan County, New York, and Jacobus Miller may have been living there as well. 5 Sep 1850 1850 > NEW YORK > Sullivan > Mamakating Series: M432 Roll: 603 Page: 187 Henry Burns, age 32, Caulker Hannah Burns, age 21 Winfield Burns, age 1 [all born NY] [possible] 24 Oct 1850 1850 > NEW YORK > Sullivan > Fallsburg Series: M432 Roll: 603 Page: 187 Jocobus Miller, age 60? [could by 66], Farmer Catharine Miller, age 57 William Miller, age 27, Farmer Cornelius Miller, age ?? [perhaps 11] 19 Jul 1860 1860 > NEW YORK > ULSTER > ESOPUS Series: M653 Roll: 871 Page: 204 Henry Burns, age 36, Calker Hannah Burns, age 33 Winfield Burns, age 10 Merinda Burns, age 6 Wm H. Burns, age 3 Warren Burns, age 5 months Jacobus Miller, age 76 29 Jun 1870 1870 > NEW YORK > ORANGE > MONTGOMERY Series: M593 Roll: 1068 Page: 129 [Walden Post Office] Hannah Burns, age 41, K. house Winfield Burns, age 20, Works in Knife Joe Minerva Burns, age 16, Works in Wool Mill Wm H. Burns, age 13, Works in Knife Joe Warren Burns, age 10, at school (1880) District 2, Walden, Orange, New York FHL Film 1254910 NA Film Number T9-0910 Page Number 441A Winfield BURNS Self M Male W 29 NY Works In Knife Shop NY/NY Mary BURNS Wife M Female W 33 NY Keeping House NY/NY Hattie BURNS Dau S Female W 7 NY At Home NY/NY Willie BURNS Son S Male W 4 NY At Home NY/NY Freddy BURNS Son S Male W 2 NY At Home NY/NY Best regards, Pam Sears Diane Stefane wrote: > Seeking the identities and pedigrees of the following three families > of Orange/Montgomery Counties in the Montgomery/Walden area: > > Jacobus Miller, b. 1783-1784 (he appears in the household of > daughter Hannah and son-in-law Henry Burns in Esopus, Ulster > County, age 76, with no wife.) The Burns family bible list > Jacobus Miller's death as 10 April 1860, which obviously is a > mistake, because he is alive as of census date 18 July of that > year. I'm seeking verification of the death of Jacobus Miller: > possibilities 10 Aug 1860, 10 Apr 1861, etc. He was dead before > the 1870 census, as daughter Hannah Miller Burns, widow, is living > in Walden township with her children on the 1870 census, and her > father is no longer with her. I have found entries for Jacobus > Miller in the township of Montgomery in 1790, 1800, 1810 and 2 in > 1820. There is also an 1820 entry for a third Jacobus Miller in > Wallkill in 1820. In 1790, there appears to have been a number of > heads of family Miller all living in Montgomery. Can anyone help > me with the history of this family? > > According to the Burns family bible entries, Henry Burns was b. 25 > Jan 1823; d.12 May 1861. He married 25 Dec 1848 Hannah Miller, who > was b. 22 June 1828. No places are noted with these dates. Their > children were Winfield Scott Burns b. 24 Apr 1850; d. 8 Mar. 1919; > William burns b. 1 Aug 1852, d. 24 Apr 1855; Minerva Burns b. 26 > June 1853, Alonzo Burns b. 6 Sep 1854, d. 3 Nov 1859; Henry Burns > b. 20 July 1857, Warren Burns b. 20 Feb 1860. Henry Burns d. 12 > May 1861, his widow Hannah Miller Burns d.7 Apr 1880. I do not > find traces of Henry Burns family in the Montgomery area before his > widow and children moved there, presumably to be near her > relatives after the deaths of her husband and father. It may be > that the Burns were an Ulster County family. Hannahs children grew > up and remained in the Wallkill Valley area. Does anyone have > knowledge of this Burns family? > > Winfield Scott Burns Sr, son of Henry and Hannah (MIller) Burns, b. > 24 Apr 1850, married 4 May 1875, according to the Burns family > bible, one Mary Henry. NY State Death Index lists her death as 3 > June 1928 in Walden; her gravestone dates her birth at 1848. > Although I have seen some Henry family references in Wallkill > Vally, and in the Orange County Reform Dutch Church records, I have > no means of connecting them to my Mary Henry. Any information > about this family would be new to me. The children of Winfiled > Scott and Mary (Henry) Burns, presumably all born at Walden, were > Hattie, b. 20 Oct 1873, m. Hennry C. Burrows and removed to > Brooklyn, NY; William, b. 11 Spe 1875, m. Jeannette Hasbouck; > Frreddie b. 7 Mar 1878, m. Laura ?; Lillian May b. 11 May 1882, m. > 17 Sep 1902 Frank McMahon; Evalenne b. 17 June 1886, d. 16 Aug > 1888; Winfield Scott Burns Jr. b. 25 Jan 1889, d. 1956, m. 23 Aug > 1908 Annie F. McFeeters. Winfield & Mary (Henry) Burns are buried > at Wallkill Valley Ceme! tery, as are his brother William & wife > Helen (Clearwater) Burns. > > I would greatly appreciate any assistance with the Burns, Milller > and Henry families noted above. > > Thank you. > > Diane Stefane Chesapeake VA >

The official enumeration day of the 1850 census was 1 June 1850. All questions asked were supposed to refer to that date. I have found more than one person, listed last, that died 1850 but were on census - but usually died between 1 June & the actual census-taking date. Could be instructions were slightly misunderstood, maybe as "up to". Kaye in Texas Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 17:20:11 -0400 > From: "Diane Stefane" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Burns/Miller/Henry > > Seeking the identities and pedigrees of the following three families of > Orange/Montgomery Counties in the Montgomery/Walden area: > > Jacobus Miller, b. 1783-1784 (he appears in the household of daughter Hannah > and son-in-law Henry Burns in Esopus, Ulster County, age 76, with no wife.) > The Burns family bible list Jacobus Miller's death as 10 April 1860, which > obviously is a mistake, because he is alive as of census date 18 July of that > year. I'm seeking verification of the death of Jacobus Miller: > possibilities 10 Aug 1860, 10 Apr 1861, etc. He was dead before the 1870 > census, as daughter Hannah Miller Burns, widow, is living in Walden township > with her children on the 1870 census, and her father is no longer with her. > I have found entries for Jacobus Miller in the township of Montgomery in > 1790, 1800, 1810 and 2 in 1820. There is also an 1820 entry for a third > Jacobus Miller in Wallkill in 1820. In 1790, there appears to have been a > number of heads of family Miller all living in Montgomery. Can anyone help > me with the history of this family? <snip> > Diane Stefane > Chesapeake VA > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Seeking the identities and pedigrees of the following three families of Orange/Montgomery Counties in the Montgomery/Walden area: Jacobus Miller, b. 1783-1784 (he appears in the household of daughter Hannah and son-in-law Henry Burns in Esopus, Ulster County, age 76, with no wife.) The Burns family bible list Jacobus Miller's death as 10 April 1860, which obviously is a mistake, because he is alive as of census date 18 July of that year. I'm seeking verification of the death of Jacobus Miller: possibilities 10 Aug 1860, 10 Apr 1861, etc. He was dead before the 1870 census, as daughter Hannah Miller Burns, widow, is living in Walden township with her children on the 1870 census, and her father is no longer with her. I have found entries for Jacobus Miller in the township of Montgomery in 1790, 1800, 1810 and 2 in 1820. There is also an 1820 entry for a third Jacobus Miller in Wallkill in 1820. In 1790, there appears to have been a number of heads of family Miller all living in Montgomery. Can anyone help me with the history of this family? According to the Burns family bible entries, Henry Burns was b. 25 Jan 1823; d.12 May 1861. He married 25 Dec 1848 Hannah Miller, who was b. 22 June 1828. No places are noted with these dates. Their children were Winfield Scott Burns b. 24 Apr 1850; d. 8 Mar. 1919; William burns b. 1 Aug 1852, d. 24 Apr 1855; Minerva Burns b. 26 June 1853, Alonzo Burns b. 6 Sep 1854, d. 3 Nov 1859; Henry Burns b. 20 July 1857, Warren Burns b. 20 Feb 1860. Henry Burns d. 12 May 1861, his widow Hannah Miller Burns d.7 Apr 1880. I do not find traces of Henry Burns family in the Montgomery area before his widow and children moved there, presumably to be near her relatives after the deaths of her husband and father. It may be that the Burns were an Ulster County family. Hannahs children grew up and remained in the Wallkill Valley area. Does anyone have knowledge of this Burns family? Winfield Scott Burns Sr, son of Henry and Hannah (MIller) Burns, b. 24 Apr 1850, married 4 May 1875, according to the Burns family bible, one Mary Henry. NY State Death Index lists her death as 3 June 1928 in Walden; her gravestone dates her birth at 1848. Although I have seen some Henry family references in Wallkill Vally, and in the Orange County Reform Dutch Church records, I have no means of connecting them to my Mary Henry. Any information about this family would be new to me. The children of Winfiled Scott and Mary (Henry) Burns, presumably all born at Walden, were Hattie, b. 20 Oct 1873, m. Hennry C. Burrows and removed to Brooklyn, NY; William, b. 11 Spe 1875, m. Jeannette Hasbouck; Frreddie b. 7 Mar 1878, m. Laura ?; Lillian May b. 11 May 1882, m. 17 Sep 1902 Frank McMahon; Evalenne b. 17 June 1886, d. 16 Aug 1888; Winfield Scott Burns Jr. b. 25 Jan 1889, d. 1956, m. 23 Aug 1908 Annie F. McFeeters. Winfield & Mary (Henry) Burns are buried at Wallkill Valley Ceme! tery, as are his brother William & wife Helen (Clearwater) Burns. I would greatly appreciate any assistance with the Burns, Milller and Henry families noted above. Thank you. Diane Stefane Chesapeake VA

Seeking parents of JOHN JORDAN born 6 Mar 1764 where I know not. He died 26 Jan 1850 Pike, Wyoming Co, NY, but buried in family lot in Friendship, Allegany Co., NY. He married 15 Sep 1785 probably in or near Goshen, Orange Co., NY Julia SWARTOUT born 18 Nov 1769 daughter of Jacobus SWARTOUT who before and during the Revolution lived in Sugar Loaf which is now in town of Chester, Orange Co., NY but then in town of Warwick, Orange Co., NY. Following children born to John and Julia: Michael 1786 in Orange Co; William 1788; Jesse 1790; James 1791; hn 1792; Andrew; 1795; Betsey 1797; Isaiah 1799; Sally (Patty) 1801; JACOB 1803; Julia Margaret 1805; Unnamed son 1807 at which time Julia probably died because she does not appear in 1810 census. John/Julia do not appear in the 1790 census of NYS in their own home with two sons nor have I found them in PA, NJ or any N.E. state. By 1800, JORDAN family residing in Cherry Valley, Otsego Co., NY. From there, Michael, William and Jesse settled in and died in Steuben Co. James and John settled town of Cuba, Allegany Co., NY; Isaiah, after living with his brother, Michael in Steuben Co., migrated on to Allegany Co and he and brothers Andrew and JACOB settled in town of Wirt of Allegany Co., NY. Betsey (Elizabeth) Jordan married Sebastion WELLER and lived in Canajoharie, Montgomery Co., NY. Sally married John DYGERT and lived in Montgomery Co, NY. Julia Margaret married Charles PHELPS, migrated to Pike, Wyoming Co. and it was at her home that JOHN died in 1850. In 1840, JOHN JORDAN is still residing at Cherry Valley but by 1848 has migrated to town of Wirt and because he died before 1850 census was taken, it has been family tradition that he lived with his son, JACOB, but his will probate states he died at home of his daughter in Wyoming Co. ANY help would be appreciate on these above mentioned families.... Ruth Jordan Thoden [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

1820 US, NY, Orange, Monroe Jane Hall 2 males age 0-9 b 1810-1820 2 males age 10-15 b 1804-1810 1 female b 1810-1820 1835 NY, Orange, Monroe Mary Hall 5 males, 2 females 1840 US, NY, Orange, Monroe Polly Hall 1 male age 15-19 2 males age 20-29 b 1810-1820 1 male 30-39 b 1800-1810 1 female b 1780-1790 1850 US, Ny, Orange, Monroe Eliza Hall 42 Julia A. Hall 14 Mary Hall 12 Wm. H. Hall 10 Ebenezer Hall2 1855 NY, Orange, Monroe Wm Hall 15 servant Patrick Rourke 1845 NY, Orange, Monroe 2 males census taker must have made mistake 1 female 1 vote and militia 1 married female -45 1 female 16-45 unmarried 3 b NY state 1850 US Census NY, Orange, Monroe, dwelling 107, family 107 Wm. Hall, 22, laborer, b NY Elizabeth Hall, 20, b NY 1855 NY, Orange, Monroe Census family 90 live in frame house worth $100 William Hall, 27, all b Orange County, laborer Elizabeth Hall, 23, Chancy Hall, 4, male Anna Hall, 2, Elizabeth Hall, 1 Thomas S. Hall 1845 NY, Orange, Monroe 2 amles 6 females 1 male vote +45 1 female -45 married Silas Hall 1790 US, NY, Orange, New Cornwall 1 male 0-15 2 amles 16+ 5 females b by 1790 Samuel Hall 1790 US, NY, Orange, New Cornwall 1 male 0-15 b 1774-1790 9 males 16+ b by 1774 1800 US, NY, Orange 1 male 0-9 b 1790-1800 2 males 26-44 b 1755-1774 1 female 0-9 b 1790-1800 1 female 10-15 b 1784-1790 3 famales 16-25 b 1774-1784 2 females 45+ b by 1755 1810 US, NY, Orange 2 males 0-9 b 1800-1810 1 male 10-15 b 1794-1800 1 male 45+ b by 1765 1 female 16-25 b 1784-1794 1 female 26-44 b 1765-1784 Samuel Hall 1835 NY, Orange, Monroe 2 acres 2 males 2 females 1 vote & militia -45 1 married female -45 1 female 16-45 unmaaried 1840 US, NY, Orange, Monroe all b NY state 2 males 0-4 b 1835-1840 1 male age 5-9 b 1830-1835 1 male 30-39 b 1899-1810 1 female 20-29 b 1800-1810 1845 NY, Orange, Monroe 4 males 2 females 1 age -45 can vote and serve in militia 1 unmarried age 16-45 1 married female -45 7 b in NY state 3 children -16 2 attending school 1850 US, NY, Orange, Monroe Samuel Hall age 42 all b NY carpenter Jemima Hall 38 Abraham Hall 18 Ebediah Hall 16 Miles Hall 14 Mary Hall 12 Could Anna Hall have been married to Carlough first? 1855 NY, Orange, Monroe Samuel Hall 33 all b Orange County laborer Anna Hall 29 Rachel A. Carlough 9 Sarah J. Carlough 7 Nicholas Carlough 5 Mary E. Hall 1

We must have two families name Nathan Hall 1850 US, NY, Orange, Monroe Nathan Hall 46 Farmer all b NY Mary A. Hall 20 Joel Hall 18 Elizabeth Hall 17 Rebecca Hall 14 Lida Hall 12 Norman Hall 9 Julia A. Hall 7 Sarah Hall 6 1855 NY, Orange, Monroe Nathan Hall 37 Susan Hall 33 George Hall 12 Elizabeth Hall 11 Andy Hall 9 Mary Hall 3 Lewis Hall Lewis Hall 1840 US, NY, Orange, Monroe 1 male age 30-39 b 1800-1810 2 females age 0-4 b 1835-1840 1 female age 20-29 b 1810-1820 1850 US, NY, Orange, 3 Aug 1850 p 308 dwelling 622 family 622 Lewis Hall 63 laborer all b NY Millie Hall 20 Catherine Hall 14 Nancy Hall 12 Jno Hall 24 Elisha Hall 2 Judy Ullman

Second Annual Phillips/Knapp Family Association Reunion The Second Annual Phillips/Knapp Family Association Reunion will be held the weekend of September 9-10, 2006, in Rockland County. All persons descended from a Rockland County Phillips and/or Knapp are invited to attend. Most of our members are descended from Daniel, Eli, or Gilbert Phillips, the three sons of John Phillips and Sarah Knapp, or from Lebbeus Knapp and Rachael Storms. Daniel, Eli, Gilbert and Lebbeus were all patriots who served their new country in the Revolutionary War. Lebbeus is reputed to have had three brothers, Silas, Jonas, and Jared Knapp who also settled in Rockland County and have descendants. All are reported to have come to Rockland County from Horseneck (Greenwich), Connecticut. In an effort to locate more Phillips/Knapp descendants, we have established a website. It can be perused at www.tribalpages.com/tribes/phillipsknapp/ This site is still in the building stages; more names are being added every day. Anyone with information regarding a Phillips or Knapp family line not represented is asked to e-mail the reunion chairperson, Barbara de Mare (an Eli Phillips descendant) at [email protected] She can tell you if your line is missing solely because of the time restraints in adding names, or due to lack of information. Please put Phillips/Knapp in the subject box. Descent is all that is required to join our group; present surname is not important. Neither is it necessary to present proof of descent. We are a group who gathers for fellowship and community betterment; credentials are not checked! Last year the group with the help of the Town of Haverstraw, the SAR and the DAR restored and rededicated the old and abandoned Phillips/Knapp Cemetery on Birch Drive in Thiells where many of our forebears are buried. The project for this year is still under discussion. The reunion weekend will commence with a barbeque to which attendees are invited to bring a dish to pass. Hotdogs and hamburgers will be provided. There will be a pavilion in which family members may display their family trees, memorabilia, pictures, and anything else they wish to bring. Nothing is required except your presence. Come to the reunion and meet many cousins you never knew you had! For more information contact either the reunion chairperson Barbara de Mare at the address given above or Vicki Miller, membership chairperson, at [email protected] For those who prefer snail mail, write to Barbara de Mare at Harwood Lloyd, 130 Main Street, Hackensack, New Jersey 07601. We will be sending out more information in mid-July. Remember, we need your name and address (snail mail or e-mail) to send you information! Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney Harwood Lloyd, LLC 130 Main Street Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 359-3633 office [email protected] (home)

While searching at ancestry.com for one of the sisters of my husband's grandfather (John Schneider born 5 Apr 1875 in Raritan, NJ), I found the following: 1900 United States Federal Census > New Jersey > Hudson > Jersey City Ward 4 > District 102 Enumerated 8 June 1900, First Precinct, Fourth Ward, York Street, #265 Snyder, John, head, white, male, Apr 1873, age 27, married one year, born New Jersey, father and mother born Germany, clothing salesman, can read, write, speak English, rents home Snyder, Dorothy, wife, white, female, June 1880, age 19, married one year, mother of one living child, born New Jersey, parents born Germany, can read, write, speak English Snyder, Dorothy, daughter, born February 1900, born NJ but I also found the following: 1900 United States Federal Census > New Jersey > Hudson > Jersey City Ward 1 > District 81 Hiebler, William, head, born June 1873 age 26 married 4 years born NY parents born NY boatsman Hiebler, Margaret, wife, born June 1877 age 23 married 4 years 2 children 1 living born NJ parents born Germany Hiebler, Earl J., son, born Dec 1897 age 2 born NJ father born NY mother born NJ Schneider, John, brother-in-law, born Apr 1875 age 25 married 1 year born NJ parents born Germany window dresser Because we knew John Schneider had recently married Dorothy Langrehr and had a small daughter named Dorothy, I knew the first one was our man. But the second one seemed to be our man, also. We wrote for the marriage record for William Hiebler and his wife Margaret. It turned out that Margaret was a daughter of my husbands great grandparents, Valentine Schneider and Catherine Schmidt. The marriage record indicated that the name was Hubler not Hiebler as it was transcribed at ancestry.com. William Hubler was from Newburgh, Orange, NY. I found William with his parents in the 1880 census in Newburgh: 1880 United States Census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Adolph HUBLER Self M Male W 36 NY Works On Brickyard NY NY Mary Jane HUBLER Wife M Female W 38 NY Keeping House NY NY Laura HUBLER Dau S Female W 10 NY At School NY NY Willie E. HUBLER Son S Male W 7 NY NY NY Pierre HUBLER Son S Male W 5 NY NY NY Sarah A. BAXTER SDau S Female W 18 NY NY NY Grant BAXTER SSon S Male W 16 NY Works On Brickyard NY NY Source Information: Census Place E.D. 2, Newburgh, Orange, New York Family History Library Film 1254911 NA Film Number T9-0911 Page Number 510D However, I have been unable to find William and Margaret and their son Earl J. in any later census or other databases that ancestry.com holds; i.e., WW I Draft Registration Cards, SSDI, etc. I can only presume that they all died before 1910 or he died and she remarried. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Dotty Sprague Cole Lake Mary, FL

I am looking for some information on a Eunice Hall who married a Charles Knapp in Orange County, NY in late 1700's. Doing family tree on the Knapp's and need some info on Charles and Eunice. Linda K. Tennant [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

Joseph Hall Joseph Hall 1810 US, NY, Oramge. Monroe 1 male 0-9 b 1800-1810 1 male 26-44 b 1765-1784 1 female 26-44 b 1765-1784 1820 US, NY, Monroe 1 male age 0-9 b 1810-1830 1 male age 26-44 b 1775-1794 1 female age 0-9 b 1810-1820 1 femlae age 26-44 b 1775-1794 1825 NY, Orange, Monroe 1 male 3 females 1 male vot must be +45 1 female -45 married 2 females -16 unmaaried 1830 US, NY, Orange, Monroe 1 male 15-19 b 1810-1815 1 male 30-39 b 1790-1800 1 female age 0-4 b 1825-1830 1 female age 5-9 b 1820-1825 1 female age 30-39 b 1790-1800 I have in my database the following documentation that a Jemima Hall is the mother of a Joseph Hall This information comes from will of Jemima Lancaster of Town of Monroe, Book F, p 422, will made 20 Mar 1821, probated 4 Jan 1822, extracted Orange County Gen. Soc. and Jemima and her first husband had following children: Joseph Hall James Hall Sally Hall Jemima Hall 1820 US, NY, Orange, Monroe 1 female 45+ b by 1775 Samuel Hall 1845 NY, Orange, Monroe 4 males 2 females 1 age -45 can vote and serve in militia 1 unmarried age 16-45 1 married female -45 7 b in NY state 3 children -16 2 attending school 1850 US, NY, Orange, Monroe Samuel Hall age 42 all b NY carpenter Jemima Hall 38 Abraham Hall 18 Ebediah Hall 16 Miles Hall 14 Mary Hall 12 Could Anna Hall have been married to Carlough first? 1855 NY, Orange, Monroe Samuel Hall 33 all b Orange County laborer Anna Hall 29 Rachel A. Carlough 9 Sarah J. Carlough 7 Nicholas Carlough 5 Mary E. Hall 1

Dear Pat, > Morning list, am not familiar with census records in the US, can someone > advise me how I could try to find a trace of Thomas G. Coyne born in 1837 in > Barryville, New York. Am trying to fnd the names of his parents and/or siblings. > > Thank you > > Pat > There was no Thomas G. Coyne enumerated in the 1850 census who was living in Barryville, (Sullivan), NY. In 1850, there was no Thomas Coyne anywhere in the USA who used "G" as his middle initial. In 1860, there was a Thomas Coyne, age 22 (born 1838), who was enumerated in Lumberland (Forrestburgh Post Office), Sullivan, NY, but he said he was born in Ireland. 26 Sep 1860 1860 > NEW YORK > SULLIVAN > LUMBERLAND Series: M653 Roll: 866 Page: 821 Thomas Coyne, age 22, Farm laborer, b Ireland Binaird Rain, age 14, b Ireland Ann Rain, age 26, Domestic, b Ireland Regards, Pam Sears

16 years, 1 month, 11 days old. ---- pic, BHCD Name Submission Coordinator & Change of Email & Information British Home Children Website; Helping Transcribe Province of Ontario B-M-D's --- --- ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Greatorex To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Deciphering Date in death record. I have a record of death taken from the Highland Falls Town Clerks records. However I have difficulty understanding the age of the girl as described below. I take it she was aged 16 but what follows I cannot understand, anybody help? 14 Mar 1901. Florence A Greatorex age 16-1-11 single, schoolgirl, resident of Highland Falls since birth, died in Highland Falls. died of double pneumonia, 9 days ill, buried in Peacedale Cemetery. Father; George Greatorex, born England Mother; Ellen Greatorex, born England. Confirmed by obituary in the News of the Highlands newspaper, dated 16 March 1901. Regards Mike Greatorex Harrogate, England. Looking for Greatorex's in North Notts, Sheffield, Orange Co, NY, USA and Alabama. http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/ ______________________________

And thankyou for the kind soul who spared me the need to work the birth date out. Thankyou Marty Irons Mike Greatorex Harrogate, England. Looking for Greatorex's in North Notts, Sheffield, Orange Co, NY, USA and Alabama. http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/

All, talk about the speed of light. So many replies in so short a time. My thanks to you all and now to get my pencil to work out a date of birth..... Mike Greatorex Harrogate, England. Looking for Greatorex's in North Notts, Sheffield, Orange Co, NY, USA and Alabama. http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/

I have a record of death taken from the Highland Falls Town Clerks records. However I have difficulty understanding the age of the girl as described below. I take it she was aged 16 but what follows I cannot understand, anybody help? 14 Mar 1901. Florence A Greatorex age 16-1-11 single, schoolgirl, resident of Highland Falls since birth, died in Highland Falls. died of double pneumonia, 9 days ill, buried in Peacedale Cemetery. Father; George Greatorex, born England Mother; Ellen Greatorex, born England. Confirmed by obituary in the News of the Highlands newspaper, dated 16 March 1901. Regards Mike Greatorex Harrogate, England. Looking for Greatorex's in North Notts, Sheffield, Orange Co, NY, USA and Alabama. http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/

Mike, if you haven't already worked the birth date out, try this nifty tool: http://www.progenealogists.com/birthfromdeath.htm. Hope this helps, Gail Rich Nestor Smyrna, Georgia www.roots2buds.net Researching: Reilly, Connolly, Cady, Ban, and Lydan in Orange County, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Greatorex" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 12:49 PM Subject: [NYORANGE] Deciphering Date in Death record > All, talk about the speed of light. So many replies in so short a time. My > thanks to you all > and now to get my pencil to work out a date of birth..... > > Mike Greatorex > Harrogate, England. > Looking for Greatorex's in North Notts, Sheffield, Orange Co, NY, USA and > Alabama. > http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/ >

I need help with the family of Nelson NEWKIRK/NEIKIRK born about 1820. I am trying to establish the parents of my Estella NEWKIRK born about 1858 who married Dewitt MARTIN and lived Summitville, Sullivan Co., NY 1875 and 1880. The Nelson NEWKIRK/NEWKIRK family is living in Goshem, Orange Co., NY on the 1860 census with wife Elizabeth, children: Sarah I, 8, Henry, 6, Richard W, 4 and Estella, 2. In 1870 Henry and Elizabeth are in Mamakating, Sullivan Co., NY with James H, 17 (maybe this is Henry - his age is about right), Matilda, 13, Ida, 10 and Harvey, 6. All help will be greatly appreciated. Bev

Mike.....My guess is that she was 16 years, 1 month, and 11 days when she died. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Greatorex" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: [NYORANGE] Deciphering Date in death record. >I have a record of death taken from the Highland Falls Town Clerks records. >However I have > difficulty understanding the age of the girl as described below. I take it > she was aged 16 but > what follows I cannot understand, anybody help? > > > 14 Mar 1901. Florence A Greatorex age 16-1-11 single, schoolgirl, resident > of Highland Falls since > birth, died in Highland Falls. died of double pneumonia, 9 days ill, > buried in Peacedale Cemetery. > Father; George Greatorex, born England Mother; Ellen Greatorex, born > England. > Confirmed by obituary in the News of the Highlands newspaper, dated 16 > March 1901. > > Regards > Mike Greatorex > Harrogate, England. > Looking for Greatorex's in North Notts, Sheffield, Orange Co, NY, USA and > Alabama. > http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/ > >

Hi Mike I believe that this girl was aged 16 years, 1 month, 11 days. Hope this helps! Frank - - - - - - -- --- Mike Greatorex <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a record of death taken from the Highland Falls Town Clerks > records. However I have > difficulty understanding the age of the girl as described below. I > take it she was aged 16 but > what follows I cannot understand, anybody help? > > > 14 Mar 1901. Florence A Greatorex age 16-1-11 single, schoolgirl, > resident of Highland Falls since > birth, died in Highland Falls. died of double pneumonia, 9 days ill, > buried in Peacedale Cemetery. > Father; George Greatorex, born England Mother; Ellen Greatorex, born > England. > Confirmed by obituary in the News of the Highlands newspaper, dated > 16 March 1901. > > Regards > Mike Greatorex > Harrogate, England. > Looking for Greatorex's in North Notts, Sheffield, Orange Co, NY, USA > and Alabama. > http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/ > > Frank W. Sloat Cell: 410-963-0257 Fax: 209-343-3886 E-mail: [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Notice up to 1840 this family is in Warwick and in 1840 a John Hall family is in Monroe - there are 4 females I am assuming widowers that I will add after I do all the males in Hall family John Hall 1790 US, NY, Orange, Warwick 1 male 0-15 b 1774-1790 1 male 16= B BY 1774 4 Females b bef 1790 1800 US, NY, Orange, Warwick 4 males 0-9 b 1790-1800 1 male 10-15 b 1784-1790 1 male 26-44 b 1755-1774 1 female 10-15 b 1784-1790 2 female 16-25 b 1774-1784 1 female 26-44 b 1755-1774 1810 US, BNY, Orange, Warwick 1 male 0-9 b 1800-1810 3 males 10-15 b 1794-1800 3 males 16-25 b 1784-1794 1 male 45+ b by 1765 1 female 0-9 b 1800-1810 1 femlae 45+ b by 1765 1820 US, NY, Orange, Warwick 1 male 10-15 b 1804-1810 1 male 16-18 b 1801-1804 2 males 16-25 b 1794-1804 q male 45+ b by 1775 1 female 10-15 b 1804-1810 1 female 45+ b by 1775 1830 US, NY, Orange, Warwick 1 male 5-9 b 1820-1825 1 male 40-49 b 17801790 1 female 0-4 b 1825-1830 1 female 5-8 b 1820-1825 2 females 10-14 b 1815-1820 1 female 15-19 b 1810-1815 1 female 30-39 b 1790-1800 another John Hall 1 male 20-30 1 female 70-80 1840 US, NY, Orange, Monroe 1 male 0-4 b 1835-2840 2 males 5-9 b 1830-1835 1 male 40-49 b 1790 1 female 40-49 b 1790-1800 John J. or L. Hall 1845 NY Orange Monroe 5 males 1 female 1 male vote meaning +45 1 female married within last lear 1 b NY state 5 b other states 4 children -16 2 attending school 60 acres of land 1850 US, NY, Orange, Monroe all b NY living next to Peter Redner who has wife is Elizabeth Hall and who has a son Aaron Redner who married Millie Hall Millie and Elizabeth Hall might be siblings Millie Hall married 1st John Cable & Cable children are living with Hall and Redner families 1850+ family 107 William Hall 22 laborer Elizabeth Hall 20 (this is Elizabeth Redner a daughter of Peter Redner by his first wife) family 108 John Hall 40 laborer Jno Hall 50 Milicent Hall 67 1855 NY, Orange, Monroe John Hall 45 head $50 value farm family 72 all b Orange County Mary Hall 70 mother Elizabeth Cables 12 niece (Elizabeth Cable is dgt of Millie Hall and John Cable) family 90 $100 value farm Wm Hall 27 all b Orange County laborer Elizabeth Hall 23 Chancy Hall 4 Anna Hall 2 Elizabeth Hall 1 1860 US, NY, Orange, Monroe, p 418 dwelling 1632 family 1704 John Hall 45 Colyer Mary Hall 77 Susan Hall 45 Mary 8 Nathaniel 6 Marinda 2 dwelling 1635 family 1705 William Hall 38 Elizabeth 28 Chancy Hall 10 Anna A. Hall 10 Isabella Hall 6 William Hall 3 Caroline 5/12