For Jane, [email protected], who posted' "Am trying to sort out the Belknap family who lived in New Windsor in the 18th century, specifically a Joseph with wife Phebe who left a will dated 1807" From "Early Orange County Wills, 1787-1830", pg 131 JOSEPH BELKNAP of Town of New Windsor Liber E page 100 Will made Oct 6, 1807 Probated Aug 18, 1813 Wife-Phebe Belknap Sons-Thomas, Daniel, Joseph (dec'd) Daughers-Lydia Wood, Phebe Wharry Grandchildren-James,Thomas & daughters, children of son, Joseph (dec'd),- David Wharry Executors-Thomas Belknap, Daniel Belknap Witnesses-William A. Clark, Aaron Belknap, William Ross Also from "Early Orange County Wills, 1787-1830", pg 131 THOMAS BELKNAP of Town of Newburgh Liber E page 105 Will made Aug 21, 1813 Probated Sept 13, 1813 Brothers-Daniel & Joseph (dec'd) his widow, Sarah Sister-Lydia Wood Cousin-Chancy Belknap Thomas, Jr., James, Harriot, Ann Eliza, Sarah, Elcey & Amanda children of dec'd bro. Joseph-Daniel, Jr. son of bro. Daniel Executors-Daniel Belknap (bro.), Chancy Belknap, James Belknap, nephew Witness-Moses Higby, John Miller, William Ross The index at surrogate court does not show a will for Phebe Belknap in that time frame. If you want photocopies of the wills themselves, I can get them for you. Contact me direct at [email protected] I hope this info helps. Marty Irons Goshen NY PS: Have you seen the brand-new Orange County Genealogical Society (NY) website? It can be found at ocgsny.org. The book "Early Orange County Wills, 1787-1830" and other Orange County books are available through ocgsny.org.

Hi listers, I'm new to this list. Am trying to sort out the Belknap family who lived in New Windsor in the 18th century, specifically a Joseph with wife Phebe who left a will dated 1807. Thank you for any information or ideas. Jane

My email address is [email protected] Lisa Lisa, Misha, Nicholas, Leo, Anya, Katya, Margo, Yuri and Sophia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marty Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 6:38 AM To: LIST - Orange Co. Subject: [NYORANGE] Lisa STITT of Middletown NY - please contact me Lisa, A message to you at your last known e-mail address bounced. Marty Irons ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Don. I e-mailed Lisa at [email protected] and it did not bounce. Now I'll wait for her reply. Marty PS: Have you seen the brand-new Orange County Genealogical Society (NY) website? It can be found at ocgsny.org. It was updated again this week.

Hi Marty, Lisa is my second cousin. The email address I have for her is [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) . Hope this will help. Don White

Lisa, A message to you at your last known e-mail address bounced. Marty Irons

ORANGE COUNTY GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY 101 MAIN STREET GOSHEN, NY 10924 www.ocgsny.org PRESS RELEASE September 12, 2006 The Orange County Genealogical Society will host their annual HOLIDAY PARTY on Saturday, December, 2, 2006. The theme of the party this year will be HOLIDAY DECORATIONS. Everyone is asked to bring a decoration and be prepared to share a story about the decoration. Come and meet the officers and trustees of the Orange County Genealogical Society. Our regular monthly meeting will be held at 9:00 AM followed by the Holiday Party 10:00 AM. Refreshments will be served. Meeting and party are held at the 1841 Historic Courthouse, 101 Main Street, Goshen, NY. The meeting and party are free of charge and open to the public. The research room will be open following the program, from Noon until 4:00 PM. For additional information contact Marilyn Terry at (845) 562-2749 or via email at [email protected] Visit our website at www.ocgsny.org Sincerely, Marilyn Terry OCGS, Program Chairperson

ORANGE COUNTY GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY 101 MAIN STREET GOSHEN, NY 10924 www.ocgsny.org PRESS RELEASE September 12, 2006 The Orange County Genealogical Society will host their annual HOLIDAY PARTY on Saturday, December 2, 2006. The theme of the party this year will be HOLIDAY DECORATIONS. Everyone is asked to bring a decoration and be prepared to share a story about the decoration. Come and meet the officers and trustees of the Orange County Genealogical Society. Our regular monthly meeting will be held at 9:00 AM followed by the Holiday Party 10:00 AM. Refreshments will be served. Meeting and party are held at the 1841 Historic Courthouse, 101 Main Street, Goshen, NY. The meeting and party are free of charge and open to the public. The research room will be open following the program, from Noon until 4:00 PM. For additional information contact Marilyn Terry at (845) 562-2749 or via email at [email protected] Visit our website at www.ocgsny.org Sincerely, Marilyn Terry OCGS, Program Chairperson

ORANGE COUNTY GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY 101 MAIN STREET GOSHEN, NY 10924 www.ocgsny.org Saturday, November 4, 2006 "THE TRAIL OUR ANCESTORS FOLLOWED IN BECOMING CITIZENS" Presented by Joseph Lieby Topics to be discussed: 1. What reasons did they have for wanting to become citizens? 2. The steps they took to qualify. 3. The records they left behind. Joseph Lieby, Ed D. Joseph was born in Brooklyn, New York, Received a Master's Degree in psychology from Fordham University, and a Doctorate in education from Teacher's College, Columbia University. Retired as a school district administrator. Engaged in genealogical research in the New York, New Jersey area since 1990. As a professional genealogist he has spoken at several local and regional societies on topics including New Jersey Research, Getting the Most from Newspapers, and Westward Migration in New York. Joseph has had articles published in Family History Magazine, and Genealogical Computing. Our regular monthly meeting of OCGS will be held at 9:00 AM with the program following at 10:30 AM. Meeting and program are held at the 1841 Historic Courthouse, 101 Main Street, Goshen, NY. The meeting and program are free of charge and open to the public. The research room will be open following the program, from Noon until 4:00 PM. For additional information contact Marilyn Terry at (845) 562-2749 or via email at [email protected] Visit our website at www.ocgsny.org

ORANGE COUNTY GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY 101 MAIN STREET GOSHEN, NY 10924 www.ocgsny.org Saturday, October 7, 2006 "VISIONARY LEADERS IN ORANGE COUNTY'S HISTORY" Presented by Professor Richard Hull Prof. Hull identifies a number of men and women who lived in Orange County at different points in history, from the colonial period to the present, who demonstrated the vision and leadership to lead the county in entirely new directions. These bold visionaries offered new and foresighted solutions to old problems. At sometimes great personal risk, they seized on opportunities that resulted not only in success for themselves but for the people who lived and gained a livelihood in our county. Hull will examine these personalities and  analyze what made them take risks and what were the consequences, not  only for their generation but for generations to follow. Dr. Richard Hull is professor of history at New York University and author of numerous works on aspects of Orange County history. He holds three NYU awards for teaching excellence, the Orange County Revered Citizen Award, a United Nations Distinguished Citizen Award, and a Distinguished Africanist Award from the New York State African Studies Association. He is a trustee emeritus of the Warwick Historical Society and has lived in Orange County most of his life.  He is a descendant of numerous old county families including the  Hulls, Gerows, Tuthills and Burns. He is married to Josephine Marvel  Hull and has two grown children. Our regular monthly meeting of OCGS will be held at 9:00 AM with the program following at 10:30 AM. Meeting and program are held at the 1841 Historic Courthouse, 101 Main Street, Goshen, NY. The meeting and program are free of charge and open to the public. The research room will be open following the program, from Noon until 4:00 PM. For additional information contact Marilyn Terry at (845) 562-2749 or via email at [email protected] Visit our website at www.ocgsny.org

Patty, Please tell me more about your Samuel Givens. My ancestors included a Samuel Fowler Givens. He spelled his surname without the "a" But most of my Giveans ancestors, spelled it with the "a." I am descended from John Giveans who lived in the late 1700's and died about 1835--if my memory serves me. I can look it up if you think there is a connection. Mona, Richmond, IN

I am searching for information regarding Samuel Givens, his parents, spouse, siblings and parents. This is all that I have at the present time. I do not have the ability to travel to Kingston, NY to search for the records of the estate. Is there anyone on the list who has any information, or who lives in or near Kingston that would be willing to search records for me? I would gladly pay for your time. Thanks, Patty ================= According to the U.S. National Archives & Records Administration - Military Service Records - Samuel Givens was a Private in 5 New York Regiment - Captain Philip D. Bevier's Co. of Foot, in Regiment commanded by Col. Lewis Duboys. He enlisted on Feb 25, 1777 for a period of 3 years Company Muster Roll July 1, 1777 on duty Company Muster Roll Sept 2, 1777 on duty Company Muster Roll Oct 6, 1777 missing Company Muster Roll Nov 1, 1777 missing List of Deserters, Dead, and Prisoners Capt. Bevier's company Oct 6, 1777 Pris'r or dead ======================================================================== Ulster County, N.Y. Probate Records in the Office of the Surrogate, and in the County Clerk's Office at Kingston, N.Y. GIVENS,SAMUEL, late a Private in Col. Dubois Reg., deceased intestate. Adm. granted, July 16, 1788, to Joseph Givens, of Montgomery, labourer, a son of said Samuel Givens.--Adm. bond, L200, by said Joseph, Alexander McCoy, same place, Innkeeper, and Justus Banks, of Shawangunk, merchant Liber A., page 15, Estate Box 3

---------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for your Orange County, NY Ancestors? The Orange County Genealogical Society is hosting an Orange County Genealogy Research Week, September 17-22, 2006. This research week is co-sponsored by the Warwick Conference Center. The O.C.G.S. Research Room will be open and staffed Monday through Thursday from 9:15 am until 4:15 pm, and from 7:00 pm to 9:00 pm. The Research Room will also be open on Friday morning from 8:30 until noon. If other research areas, such as Newburgh, Port Jervis or Middletown are vital to your genealogical research, WCC will try to assist you with your transportation needs. Enrollment is limited to 15 participants. Five nights lodging, ten meals, and transportation to and from research areas and the assistance of the O.C.G.S. staff is included. The Warwick Center will provide lodging, offering varied accomodations. As of 5 September there are only a few openings left, so if interested, contact The Warwick Center O.C.G.S. Research Program PO Box 349, Warwick, NY 10990 845-986-1164 ----------------------------------------------------------------- PS: Have you seen the brand-new Orange County Genealogical Society website? It can be found at ocgsny.org

Hi all. I recently acquired a very old bible that apparently belonged to David BEATTIE, who was born 1828. His wife was Isabella H. CUMMING, born 1826. This family lived mostly in Orange Co., NY. Children of David and Isabella were: Thomas Cumming BEATTIE 1859 Sarah Allice Beattie 1857 Isabella Hamilton BEATTIE 1859 William C. BEATTIE 1862 This bible was published in 1857. There are many of the families birth, death, and marriages recorded in the bible. Sarah Alice married James McWilliams. Isabella Hamilton married Robert McCready. Thomas C. married Ruby MILLER. I am not connected to this family, and would like to be able to put the bible in the hands of a descendant. If anyone is connected to this family, or know of anyone that is connected, please feel free to contact me. Rex Bertram 132 S. Butler St. Redkey, IN 47373 Will research your ancestor at the world's second largest genealogy. You give donation, only if I succeed. www.digginbones.com/NoRiskProResearch.htm -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 267.0.0/435 - Release Date: 8/31/2006

The Orange County Genealogical Society has room in its next Journal for some Orange County related queries -- since we have the extra space we will also accept them from non members at this time. Please email your query directly to our editor -- please try to keep them 25 words or less and ask specific questions. -- up to 4 queries per person. Please include your snail mail address at the end of the query -- many of our members do not have email!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Send them to [email protected] Put the word QUERY in the Subject area ALSO VISIT OUR NEW WEB SITE AT www.ocgsny.org

Would SKS please see if the following are in the 1845 NYS census for Newburgh: Lawrence Grant James Costigan, or his widow Eliza Costigan If found, please advise me of the data including location, if shown. Thank you very much,,, Tom

My husband and I will be in the Middletown-Goshen area on the 12 and 13th of Sept. I am hoping to find some information on the Pugh family. My Pughs, originally from Ireland, came to NY in 1856-1860, and they were in Middletown for a short time. All I knew of originally, were brothers James (1841) John (1842) and Francis (?). I now see there were other Pughs in Middletown; Mary born around 1825, Frank, born around 1821, wife Anne (Kilbride 1832) and mother Catherine. Frank and Anne were born in Goshen in 1860. He died sometime before 1878 and she remarried a Gleeson. Their children were Elizabeth (1871) Francis (1875), James (1862) and John 12 (1868)There was also John b. ~1820 and James, b. ~ 1820 or 1821. There was also a Michael Pugh drafted out of Wallkill Oct 9, 1863. James Pugh (1841) married Ellen Carroll in Middletown, at St Joseph's Church in Middletown New York, Orange County. My Pugh's had migrated to Iowa by 1870. They were Catholic, and worked on the railroad in Iowa, I assume they worked on the railroad in NY. I would like to find some proof that these Pugh's were related. I only have a day in Middletown and want to make the best use of it. Any ideas where the best places would be to visit? The OCGS is not open when we are going to be there; do you know if any of the libraries would have access to some of the geneological records? I would love to find some obits if possible to help link the names. It seems reasonable to me that these Pughs are all related, especially with the naming pattern. The only one who falls out is Michael. Thanks for any help you can offer. Deb Meade

Deb Meade wrote: > My husband and I will be in the Middletown-Goshen area on the 12 and > 13th of Sept. I am hoping to find some information on the Pugh family. > My Pughs, originally from Ireland, came to NY in 1856-1860, and they > were in Middletown for a short time. All I knew of originally, were > brothers James (1841) John (1842) and Francis (?). I now see there were > other Pughs in Middletown; Mary born around 1825, Frank, born around > 1821, wife Anne (Kilbride 1832) and mother Catherine. Frank and Anne > were born in Goshen in 1860. He died sometime before 1878 and she > remarried a Gleeson. Their children were Elizabeth (1871) Francis > (1875), James (1862) and John 12 (1868)There was also John b. ~1820 and > James, b. ~ 1820 or 1821. There was also a Michael Pugh drafted out of > Wallkill Oct 9, 1863. James Pugh (1841) married Ellen Carroll in > Middletown, at St Joseph's Church in Middletown New York, Orange County. > My Pugh's had migrated to Iowa by 1870. They were Catholic, and worked > on the railroad in Iowa, I assume they worked on the railroad in NY. > I would like to find some proof that these Pugh's were related. I only > have a day in Middletown and want to make the best use of it. Any ideas > where the best places would be to visit? The OCGS is not open when we > are going to be there; do you know if any of the libraries would have > access to some of the geneological records? I would love to find some > obits if possible to help link the names. It seems reasonable to me that > these Pughs are all related, especially with the naming pattern. The > only one who falls out is Michael. > > Thanks for any help you can offer. Deb Meade > Thrall Library in Middletown has microfilm of many old newspapers (mostly Middletown based ones.) Newburgh Free Library has a more extensive microfilm collection (not sure if it covers Goshen papers.) The Surrogates Court in Goshen would have any probate records. I'm not familiar with the holdings of other area libraries.

Tom O'Hare wrote: "did the 1845 NYS census in Orange County list every person in a family individually by name, or only the head of household?" --------------------------------------------------------- Tom, all of your questions about the 1845 NY census should be answered at: http://www.frontiernet.net/~halsey1/ny/1845.htm http://www.frontiernet.net/~halsey1/ny/ny-census.htm http://www.frontiernet.net/~halsey1/ny/1845b.htm http://www.census-online.com/links/NY/Chautauqua/ http://www.ny-genes.com/ny_counties/ The above were found by Googling "1845 NY census". They tell what is in the censuses for various years, and which counties had state censuses in which years. Specifically, "Beginning in 1855, the name of every person in the household is listed." I hope this helps you and others with similar questions about the NY state censuses, very few of which have ever been indexed. Marty Irons

Hello, did the 1845 NYS census in Orange County list every person in a family individually by name, or only the head of household? Thank-you, Tom.