----- Original Message ----- From: "Marge Clark" <[email protected]> To: "NYORANGE-LIST Post" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:37 AM Subject: [NYORANGE] Children's Homes 1880 > Does anyone know of any Children's Homes/Orphanages in Newburgh in 1880? > > I found a Children's Home in 1900 at 18 High Street but cannot find them > in the 1880 census. > > I'm searching for an August Blumberg who was born between 1874 and 1880. > His father deserted the family in 1880 and his mother died 6 months later. > Newburgh city clerk has no record of his birth. The only mention I have of > his existence is from a 1941 obituary saying that at that time he was > living in Alberta Canada. I've written letters to all the Blumberg > listings I could find in the Canadian telephone book with no luck. I've > corresponded with the Alberta Genealogical Society and they give me no > hope of finding him. > > This is one brick wall I don't think I will ever break through or get > around. > Thank you for any replies. > Marge > > If you want to hear the angels . . listen with your heart. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

1900 US, NY, Cortlandt, Peekskill, ED 59, sheet 1, 14 Jun 1900 Teresa Cunningham, b Feb 1868, 32, b NY, parents b Ireland, teacher at St. Joseph's Convent, The following person b in Westchester became a nun and was at several Hospitals for children including St. Joseph's in Peeksill. Judy Ullman

Does anyone know of any Children's Homes/Orphanages in Newburgh in 1880? I found a Children's Home in 1900 at 18 High Street but cannot find them in the 1880 census. I'm searching for an August Blumberg who was born between 1874 and 1880. His father deserted the family in 1880 and his mother died 6 months later. Newburgh city clerk has no record of his birth. The only mention I have of his existence is from a 1941 obituary saying that at that time he was living in Alberta Canada. I've written letters to all the Blumberg listings I could find in the Canadian telephone book with no luck. I've corresponded with the Alberta Genealogical Society and they give me no hope of finding him. This is one brick wall I don't think I will ever break through or get around. Thank you for any replies. Marge If you want to hear the angels . . listen with your heart.

Jim, You are right about Richard Rutan and Mary Ann Fort being the parents of Laura L Rutan Martin. I found her death in "Wallkill Orange County, New York, Volume One" it includes Vital Statistics 1881-1913, Census 1900, and Area Obituaries. I can't help you with the Rutan line because I descend from the Martin-Newkirk union. Bev Crowell in Sunny AZ In a message dated 2/18/2007 6:41:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Bev: I think Laura L. Rutan ( the second wife of DeWitt Martin) were Richard Rutan and Mary Ann Fort of Sullivan Co., NY. They are a brick wall for me. Jim Keegan on Long Island

Bev: I think Laura L. Rutan ( the second wife of DeWitt Martin) were Richard Rutan and Mary Ann Fort of Sullivan Co., NY. They are a brick wall for me. Jim Keegan on Long Island

William MARTIN, b. abt. 1823, Orange Co., NY, d. aft. 1880, pobably Sullivan Co., NY, m. Rebecca UNKN, b. abt. 1825, Orange Co., NY, d. unkn, pobably Sullivan Co., NY. Children: Jeremiah b. abt. 1842, Mamakating, Sullivan Co., NY, m. Hannah J UNKN, b. abt. 1845. Sarah, b. abt. 1848 Cynthia, b. abt. 1850 Dewitt, b. Jan. 1855, d. aft. 1910, possibly Wallkill, Orange Co., NY, m(1) Estella NEWKIRK, b. abt. 1858, d. bef. 1884, m(2) Laura L RUTAN, b. Apr 1869, d. 9 Jan 1908, Wallkill, Orange Co., NY Lucy, b. about 1858 Leonard, b. Jun 1861, m. Ida UNKN, b. Sep 1867 NY, m. 1881 William J, b. abt 1864 Alfred, b. 1867 Clarence, b. Apr 1871, m(1). Catherine COUNTS, m(2). Augusta FOOT, b. Oct. 1876, m. 1894 Who were William's parents and what was Rebecca's birth surname? Thank you. [email protected]

Good evening, well maybe morning, I'm Kevin L. Sholder, let me apologize if you receive this on more then one list as this posting covers the following counties within New York: Broome, Dutchess, Greene and Orange. I'm researching the SCHOLDERER family of New York and their descendants. Johann Jacob SCHOLDERER (b. 1814 - d. 1893) sailed on the Ship Rattler in July of 1854 bringing with him his wife Johanna (Hanna) Christiana PFÄFFLIN (b. 1821 - d. 1889), they were both residents of Rosenfeld in the Kingdom of Württemberg before coming to America. Their family consisted of four (4) small children: Maria Barbara (b. 1847), Eleonora (b. 1849), Johannes (John) (b. 1851) and Luise (Louise) Christiana (b. 1854). Upon their arrival in America, they settled in Hunter, Greene County, New York where they can be found in the 1860 through 1880 census records. They had three (3) more children in Hunter: Jacob J. (b. 1856), George C. (b. 1858) and Minnie H. (b. 1863). As their children left had families of their own, I know the following about them and their families: 1. Maria Barbara SCHOLDERER, appears in the 1860 census with her parents, then by 1870, she is no longer listed. No further information at this time. 2. Eleonora SCHOLDERER, appears in the 1860 census with her parents, then by 1870, she is no longer listed. No further information at this time. 3. Johannes (John) SCHOLDERER, appears in the 1860 and 1870 census with his parents in Hunter, Greene County. Then by 1880 he is in Newburgh, Orange County, where he marries Mary J. [—?—]. They have one child, George H. SCHOLDERER. By 1910 this family has moved to Binghamton, Broome County, where it seems George H. SCHOLDERER was an undertaker. I found the following entry in an obituary: "A 1947 graduate of Eckels College of Mortuary Science in Philadelphia, Pa., George was employed at the George H. Scholderer Home for Funerals in Binghamton from January 1948 until January 1952." No further information at this time. 4. Luise (Louise) Christiana SCHOLDERER, appears in the 1860 and 1870 census with her parents in Hunter, Greene County. Then she apparently married Truman WILBUR and moved to Cairo, Greene County sometime before 1883 when Truman dies at the age of 32. No further information at this time. 5. Jacob J. SCHOLDERER, appears in the 1860 census with his parents in Hunter, Greene County, then dies in September of 1860. 6. George C. SCHOLDERER, appears in the 1860, 1870 and 1880 census with his parents in Hunter, Greene County. Then he apparently married Nellie Magdalene KENDALL with whom he appears in the 1920 census for Beekman Township, Dutchess County. No further information at this time. 7. Minnie H. SCHOLDERER, appears in the 1870 and 1880 census with his parents in Hunter, Greene County, then by 1900, her whereabouts are unknown. Using the microfilm of the church records of Rosenfeld, this family has been traced back several generations. I am now in the process of researching the descendents of this family. If anyone can help in this endeavor, with any additional clues that I can research they would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time, Kevin L. Sholder Dayton, OH Don't wait to make your Son a great man. Make him a great boy. --Unknown <http://www.kevin-sholder.net/genealogy/> LOCATIONS THAT I AM RESEARCHING: NEW YORK: (Broome, Dutchess, Greene and Orange Counties) OHIO: (Franklin, Meigs, Montgomery and Ross Counties) PENNSYLVANIA: (Berks, Centre, Clinton, Lycoming, Northumberland and Sullivan Counties) GERMANY: (Degerloch, Leinfelden, Maulbronn, Remmingsheim, Rosenfeld, Sindelfingen, Walddorf and Wolfenhausen located in Württemberg) TOP (60+) SCHOLDERER / SHOLDER SURNAMES THAT I AM RESEARCHING: Barnes, Bartlett, Beck, Bennett, Biichle, Blackman, Bosch, Braun, Calkins, Caputo, Crossley, Dooris, Durham, Farr, Feldmaier, Fenderson, Fink, Gondek, Greenawalt, Hafer, Harer, Hornberger, Huggins, Hunter, Jacobus, Jarrett, Kelchner, Keller, Kelley, Kelly, Kern, Kinley, Klees, Kriner, Lanz, Lilley, Livermore, Livingston, Ludwig, Luippold, Lukens, Mahaffey, Mecum, Miller, Mosteller, Muller, Murray, Myers, Nestle, Noyes, Pasnault, Pryor, Ranck, Sauter, Schauer, Scholderer, Sholder, Sholders, Slusher, Small, Springer, Stroble, Stählin, Updegraff, Weaver, Weigle, Williamson and their connections into the Scholderer / Sholder family lines.

Diane Thanks for the offer of the Charles E. Masters 1878-1961 line and Lots more if I want/need it. Yes thank you I would and if you would send me a GED file to my email address I could sort through and find where he fits into my line. I suspect I acquired him through a GED from one of my family sources. Thanks again Bert Looking for Samuel Webb b1833 Warwick, N.Y. Surnames: Fahrney,Harriss,Leiter,Sellman,Staniforth,Webb,Yesler Enjoy my WebSite: Bert's Webb Links http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~yearsgoneby/

Hi - I was looking thru your surnames and found a Charles E. Masters marked as 'unknown' and 'an unknown value'. One of my lines is the Masters family and I do have a Chas. E. 1878-1961 who married Alice Mildred DAVIS 1881-1942. Lots more if you want/need it. Diane * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * * http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/ ~~~~~ Speak kind words/hear kind echoes ~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Bertman Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] NYORANGE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 8 Looking for Samuel Webb b1833 Warwick, N.Y. Surnames: Fahrney,Harriss,Leiter,Sellman,Staniforth,Webb,Yesler

My great grandparents were married on January 5, 1853. Now, they lived in the Arden/Southfields/Tuxedo area but I'm not certain if they were married in Orange County. Are there any marriage records available for this timeframe? Thanks, Elizabeth Culhane Fairport, NY

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[email protected] This one worked for me. Looking for Samuel Webb b1833 Warwick, N.Y. Surnames: Fahrney,Harriss,Leiter,Sellman,Staniforth,Webb,Yesler Enjoy my WebSite: Bert's Webb Links http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~yearsgoneby/

Dear OCGS: I've been trying to send a query to the address in your e-mail, but it's not correct. Could you please help me out. Thanks. I will be sending in my membership to OCGS. Thank you. Sincerely, Diane [email protected]

The Orange County Genealogical Society has room in its next Journal for some Orange County related queries -- since we have the extra space we will also accept them from non members at this time. Please email your query directly to our editor -- please try to keep them 25 words or less and ask specific questions. -- up to 4 queries per person. Please include your snail mail address at the end of the query -- many of our members do not have email!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Send them to [email protected] Put the word QUERY in the Subject area ALSO VISIT OUR NEW WEB SITE AT www.ocgsny.org

Westchester County Genealogical Society (NY) Upcoming Meeting Hope you can make it to the Westchester County Genealogical Society (WCGS) Upcoming Meeting! It will be this coming Saturday at the Aldersgate Memorial United Methodist Church. The Westchester County Genealogical Society is please to present “The Story of the Standard House of Peekskill” a talk by Katharina Cerreta. Katharina Cerreta along with her husband Rick Cerreta purchased the Standard House in December of 1998 and finished restoration in 2000. The structure was built around 1855 and was used as a boarding house, tavern, and restaurant over the years. In 1998, it was an abandoned building on Peekskill’s riverfront and home to vagrants and vermin. In 2000, The Standard House was listed on the National Register of Historic Places and became Peekskill’s 1st local landmark in 2001. The meeting will be held at the Aldersgate Methodist Church, 600 Broadway in Dobbs Ferry (across from Mercy College on route 9). Guests are welcome ($3 donation is requested). There will be refreshments and genealogical networking starting at 9:30am. The meeting will be held at: When: Saturday, February 10, 2007 @ 10 a.m. Where: Aldersgate Memorial United Methodist Church, 600 Broadway (route 9), Dobbs Ferry, NY, USA – plenty of free parking Hope you can come on Saturday! For information about Westchester County Genealogical Society (Westchester Connection or Surname List), visit WCGS home page -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/ RESERVED THESE DATES FOR WCGS Future Meetings Mar 10, 2007 Ireland’s Forgotten Heroes: A Look at Ireland’s World War I Soldiers Tom Phelan Apr 14, 2007 Preserving Your Family’s Memories on DVD* at Grinton I. Will Library, 1500 Central Park Ave, Yonkers, NY Risa Neuwirth - LifeStory Productions May 12, 2007 Italian Immigration through the Ports of New York and New Orleans E.P. Vallone June 9, 2007 Incorporating Memoirs into Fiction Edith Glass

Perry Streeter wrote: > I have discovered that the Library of Congress only has issues of the > "Newburgh Political Index" from 1820 and 1821. This newspaper is not > identified in the online listing of the holdings of The Orange County > Genealogical Society: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/ocgs/library-holdings.html > > Does anyone have any idea how I can otherwise obtain a full copy of the > obituary notice for Abigail (-----) COLLINS cited below? > Have you tried the Newburgh Free Library?

I have discovered that the Library of Congress only has issues of the "Newburgh Political Index" from 1820 and 1821. This newspaper is not identified in the online listing of the holdings of The Orange County Genealogical Society: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/ocgs/library-holdings.html Does anyone have any idea how I can otherwise obtain a full copy of the obituary notice for Abigail (-----) COLLINS cited below? "A Record of the Inscriptions in the OLD TOWN BURYING GROUND of Newburgh, N.Y., Historical Society of Newburgh Bay & the Highlands 1898 ... 93. Died, Jan 21, 1824, Abigial COLLINS, aged 100 yrs, 4 mos, 6 dys [42] ... [42] A notice in the Pliitical Index of Jan 7, 1824, states that Mrs. COLLINS was a native of New Jersey, but form many years a resident of Newburgh and among its first settlere; that her relations were very extensive, "she having arrived at the title of great-great-grandparent." She was deprived of sight & hearing for several years before her death." Source = http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/ny/newburg_ny_inscr3.htm Thanks for your help, Perry Perry Streeter (mailto:[email protected]) http://www.perry.streeter.com

Hello All, I would like to thank everyone who responded to my question on the “Old Town Bur Gr, Newburgh, Orange Co, NY.” As a result of your help, I was able to find exactly what I needed. Thanks again, Frank On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:41:22 -0700 Frank L Griggs <[email protected]> writes: > Hello Everyone, > > Does anyone know if there is a published transcript of the burials > in the > “Old Town Bur Gr, Newburgh, Orange Co, NY”? Or preferably, is there > anything online? > > Many thanks, Frank > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Seeking parents of JOHN JORDAN born 6 Mar 1764 where I know not. He died 26 Jan 1850 Pike, Wyoming Co, NY, but buried in family lot inn Friendship, Allegany Co., NY. He married 15 Sep 1785 probably in or near Goshen, Orange Co., NY Julia SWARTOUT born 18 Nov 1769 daughter of Jacobus SWARTOUT who before and during the Revolution lived in Sugar Loaf which is now in town of Chester, Orange Co., NY but then in town of Warwick, Orange Co., NY. Following children born to John and Julia: Michael 1786 in Orange Co; William 1788; Jesse 1790; James 1791; John 1792; Andrew; 1795; Betsey 1797; Isaiah 1799; Sally (Patty) 1801; JACOB 1803; Julia Margaret 1805; Unnamed son 1807 at which time Julia probably died because she does not appear in 1810 census. John/Julia do not appear in the 1790 census of NYS in their own home with two sons nor have I found them in PA, NJ or any N.E. state. By 1800, JORDAN family residing in Cherry Valley, Otsego Co., NY. >From there, Michael, William and Jesse settled in and died in Steuben Co. James and John settled town of Cuba, Allegany Co., NY; Isaiah, after living with his brother, Michael in Steuben Co., migrated on to Allegany Co and he and brothers Andrew and JACOB settled in town of Wirt of Allegany Co., NY. Betsey (Elizabeth) Jordan married Sebastion WELLER and lived in Canajoharie, Montgomery Co., NY. Sally married John DYGERT and lived in Montgomery Co, NY. Julia Margaret married Charles PHELPS, migrated to Pike, Wyoming Co. and it was at her home that JOHN died in 1850. In 1840, JOHN JORDAN is still residing at Cherry Valley but by 1848 has migrated to town of Wirt and because he died before 1850 census was taken, it has been family tradition that he lived with his son, JACOB, but his will probate states he died at home of his daughter in Wyoming Co. ANY help would be appreciate on these above mentioned families.... Please email me at [email protected]

>From what I've read, the two were scanned and indexed independently, so one may be more accurate on a given name than the other. Also the quality of the image varies. On a recent occasion, the page I was looking for was illegible on Ancestry because it was too dark and illegible on Heritage Quest because it was too light. I finally looked at the microfilm at my local historical society and it was perfectly clear. I find that Ancestry has better search capability (name variations, more fields to search, etc.), but Heritage Quest images are apt to be better. The main problem with the Heritage Quest index is that it searches for the exact name you enter without offering variations on the name. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] Missing censuses? >I have access to Heritage Quest through my membership to NYG&B (at least >until April). I also have an ancestry subscription. When I can't find >someone on ancestry, I try heritageQuest and usually do locate them. I >don't know if the difference is in the indexing, the transcribing, or the >search engine, but there is a difference. > > Of course the best index when not finding a name and misspelling is > suspected is the written indexes--Accelerated Indexing System or some such > name. The wrong spelling is more apt to be obvious looking at the index > yourself instead of relying on a search engine to find it. > > Barbara > > "Pamela J. Sears" <[email protected]> wrote: > You wrote: > >> Hi >> >> You mention, HeritageQuest, ie. Library Census research online. >> I use it and find missing censuses. I can go to a library and access >> Ancestry.com and find it. Have you had these issues? >> >> Bert > > > No! > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > [email protected] (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >