Thank you Sue, not sure why I didn't think of that before, I just sent an email to Les as how to join, I do belong to NEGHS, that helped me find some ancestors on my mother's side of the family which I have many brickwalls. Katherine ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 4/4/2007 6:52:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Thank you Grace, that will help with my search on the Rose family. I knew there was a Carter in there someplace but didn't know where. So thank you again. Everyone has been tremendous in their help and I thank each and everyone of you. Being out in California, it is hard to find much information. Katherine Katherine: Just join the Orange County Genealogical society, and they are quite helpful. I recently joined NEHGS and while I haven't been able to find much so far, their resources are vast. Sue ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Thank you Grace, that will help with my search on the Rose family. I knew there was a Carter in there someplace but didn't know where. So thank you again. Everyone has been tremendous in their help and I thank each and everyone of you. Being out in California, it is hard to find much information. Katherine ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Peggy, I can't go back that far with my Rose family, I at this time only go back to the early 1800's with Reuben Rose and Charlotte Weyant. I looked through the family history sheets I have and didn't come across either name in the set. From what I am gathering there certainly were a lot of family's with the name Rose. Katherine (Nelson, Weyant, Rose, Macy, Kniffin) Sacramento "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known" Carl Sagan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

HI Peggy: My Roses are back in Connecticut around 1656. The Rose people that I am a descendant of were part of my Stephens line. Obediah Stevens and Rebecca Rose ca 1662 had a son Ephraim Stevens, in New England. The Rumsey's intermarried with the Smiths around Smith's Clove didn't they? I have Smith's too. They are all in the same line, but as near as I can tell I am not related to the ones in Smith's Clove. My Samuel Smith married Jane Stephens, and Jane Stephen's ancestors are the Roses. Sue in Seattle In a message dated 4/4/2007 4:54:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Katherine and Sue- As a shot in the dark. . . Do you have a Phoebe Rose (b 1697-abt 1760) married to Simon Rumsey (b 1690- bef 1751) In Goshen? TIA Peggie in OR ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Katherine and Sue- As a shot in the dark. . . Do you have a Phoebe Rose (b 1697-abt 1760) married to Simon Rumsey (b 1690-bef 1751)In Goshen? TIAPeggie in OR -- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/746 - Release Date: 4/4/20071:09 PM

Folks, While looking for my Carpenter/Wisner/Melvins, I found the above James C. Carpenter listed one household away from Timothy Lockwood who was the husband of my aunt Betsy (nee Melvin) descended from James Wisner and his wife Elizabeth Runyon Carpenter, dau of Moses Carpenter of Orange and Onondaga Cos. NY. James C. Carpenter age 28, blacksmith, value of real estate 1000 value of personal 200 b NY Elizabeth Carpenter age 24 (too hard to read) b. Ohio ----------------------- My Timothy is also listed in the IO state census 1856, but I didn't find James Carpenter. I did find an ALBERT H. CARPENTER in the 1851 Iowa state census. Phoebe in CA ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Judy,, I suspect you have seen the Or. Co. abstract of wills book...that is all I have..for the record... Will made March 9, 1826 Probated June 24, 1826 W Milleson Huff; Exec: illeson Huff Wit: Earl Rumsey, Rebeca Rumsey, Elizabeth Rumsey ------------------- Other Huffs listed in the book index: Ann pg 36 ---- daughter of JAMES LITTLE of Brookfield. will made 1790, wife Sarah; other daughters: Sarah Sebolt and Mary Veal..Sons: George, William and John. Jershorn pg 83 Wit to will of Jedediah Raymond of Newburgh will made 11/24/1806 Mary and Jonah W. and Lydia Brown, pg 119 witnesses to will of James Tomb of Newburgh will made June 19, 1812 wife deceased: minor sons Benjamin and Robert and minor dau Deborah, Exec: Wm Innis and Alexander Ross, Esq. Mary pg 77 daughter of John Bloom of Warwick no date entered in the abstract, but refers to Liber C page 311...Wife: Ruth Bloom, no other dau listed: Sons, John, Richard, Jesse, Ira (Minor), benjamin. Exec: John Bloom, Joseph Houston, Wi: Philip McConnell, Jacob Sly, John McConnell and 119 Milleson (above) pg 238 ------------ It seems to me, and my memory could be wrong, that I abstracted a deed about 10 years ago where a Sayer sold a property to his sister in law, maybe, with the surname of Huff for love and affection, or some such. That deed could be in the archives of the Or Co Gen Web site, as most of my abstracts were there. Phoebe in CA Researching Orange Co. families: Wisner, Carpenter, Jaynes and related families ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Does anyone have copy of probate records of Abraham Huff Book H. p 170 of Monroe? Judy Ullman [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Herbert/Weyant Cemetery in Doodletown Anna Eliza Weyant 10-17-1828 d. 1-27-1865 w/o Joseph Herbert Peter Weyant 1836 d. 1907 his w. Adelia Bulson 1840 d. 1907 Rev. Charles Weyant d. 6-9-1865 51-11-9 George Weyant d. 7-9-1811 5-10 s/o Charles & Elizabeth (Hudson) Samuel Weyant d. 9-21-1818 59-6-2 Tobias Weyant d. 2-15-1850 age 87 John W. Weyant d, 4-23-? 73-19 Andrew Weiant d. 2-16-1849 19-2-22 John Weiant d. 4-30-1843 78-2-4 Marietta Weiant d. 9-14-1850 7-4 d/o Lorenzo & Emily John F. Weyant d. 6-24-1889 62-11-13 Aljannett d. 4-10-1882 32-2-10 w/o John F. Woolsey Weyant d. 5-22-1861 8-20 Frederick K. Weyant d. 4-18-1854 1-0-3 Josephine Weyant d. 4-3-1859 1-6-10, last 3 children of King and Elizabeth (Keslar) Queensboro Circle Cemetery King Weyant 1-5-1818 d, 9-4-1884 his wife Elizabeth Keisler 4-30-1818 d. 7-2-1899 James Weyant d. 12-24-1898 age 58 Martha C. 1840 d. 1892

Thanks Katherine; I have a Rose line as well, back in Connecticut. I don't know much about them however. I appreciate your time. Sue In a message dated 4/3/2007 7:11:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Sue The bible I have only goes back with the Rose family starting with Vincent Rose born in 1819, John Rose born in 1821, Darius Rose born 1823, and more, but it doesn't say where they are born. From what I gather, they all were in New York at least from 1819. Let me pull out my Rose family history sheets and see what I can find, then get back with you, not sure what is on them. Katherine ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I am searching for information about John Chambers who is enumerated 1790 in Montgomery Twp Ulster Co. I understand that a few years later the boundary changed and Montgomery Twp became part of Orange Co. He served in revolutionary war units from Ulster Co. and was in Bath, NY by 1795. Carol Chambers Church

Supposedly Sarah Vail (b. 1763) was the d/o Gilbert Vail (1739-1779) and Hannah Arnot (b. abt 1740). Carol -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Menzies, Leila Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 4:25 PM To: '[email protected]' Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] Webb and Vail and Brittan Who was Sarah Vail the daughter of? One of my husband's family, Alida Brittan, wed Charles Vail in Orange and they then moved to San Francisco. California where her brother John Wesley Brittan was a very wealthy capitalist. Leila -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carol VanBuren Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 12:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] Webb Supposedly Dr. E. A. Webb married Sarah Carpenter. He was a son of Benjamin Webb and Sarah Vail. Carol -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Analytix: RobinC Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] Webb At 10:25 AM 4/3/2007 -0400, you wrote: >At 02:03 AM 4/3/2007 -0400, you wrote: > >Festus Webb married Sarah Crain. Their Daughter Frances Emily was born > >1807, died 1889, married Isaiah Vail Mapes 1828 (1805-1880). > > > >Festus lived in the Town of Minisink before 1850. > > > >Does anyone have any more information on this family? > > > >Carol Van Buren Hello Again Carol: After sending my recent response, I realized that of course the "Sally Webb" daughter of William Crane who is cited in William Crane's will "must" be the same person as your "Sarah Crain" who married Festus Webb. Now, here's a new hypothesis. Checking on Sarah/Sally, I find the following in Coulter (p.13): "July 5, Dr. Eusobius Austin Webb from Pres. Church Goshen died. Sept 15. 1889 in 78th yr. Sarah C. Webb his wife from Pres. Ch. Goshen d. Sept19,1884 age 72 yrs." Does it not seem likely this Sarah C. Webb is the same person as your Sarah Crain/Crane? If so, then either your Sarah-Festus marriage is questionable...OR (ta ta TAA ta TAAA!)...unless Dr. Eusobius Austin Webb is the same person as Festus A. Webb! In fact, I'd bet on it. Note that my recent message says both Festus and Andrew are mentioned in the Crane will. Well, they are also mentioned together in the April 1820 will of Samuel Webb, where Andrew is named as a nephew (of Samuel) and son of Samuel's brother Charles. Still no info on where Festus (Eusobius) fits in with the other Webbs. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue The bible I have only goes back with the Rose family starting with Vincent Rose born in 1819, John Rose born in 1821, Darius Rose born 1823, and more, but it doesn't say where they are born. From what I gather, they all were in New York at least from 1819. Let me pull out my Rose family history sheets and see what I can find, then get back with you, not sure what is on them. Katherine ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Katherine: Can you follow your Rose family back into Connecticut? Sue In a message dated 4/3/2007 6:06:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Do you have the complete names of the Weyant's? They are my ancestors, my great-grandmother was Ella Weyant and Rose family. I know that the Rose family lived in this area as well. My Dad had told me that they lived around Bear Mountain Park and some were buried there, I have a picture of him standing on one of the mountain peaks looking out. I would love to know the names of the Weyants buried around Bear Mountain State Park, their complete names, the date of death, etc., if you have that information. It would be much appreciated. Not sure how the other Weyants or Weiants may be related to John Weyant (my great-great grandfather) from the other areas you mentioned. I know there are many spelling variants of this name through the years and related some how or another. I have the old Rose family Bible that my great-aunt had given me as she knew I would cherish it forever, which shows the date of John Weyant and Susan Rose (married December 24, 1859, he died in 1911 and she in 1921) being married and then the dates of their children's birth, marriages and deaths of some of them. Katherine Bailey (Nelson, Weyant, Rose, Macy, Kniffen) Sacramento ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Do you have the complete names of the Weyant's? They are my ancestors, my great-grandmother was Ella Weyant and Rose family. I know that the Rose family lived in this area as well. My Dad had told me that they lived around Bear Mountain Park and some were buried there, I have a picture of him standing on one of the mountain peaks looking out. I would love to know the names of the Weyants buried around Bear Mountain State Park, their complete names, the date of death, etc., if you have that information. It would be much appreciated. Not sure how the other Weyants or Weiants may be related to John Weyant (my great-great grandfather) from the other areas you mentioned. I know there are many spelling variants of this name through the years and related some how or another. I have the old Rose family Bible that my great-aunt had given me as she knew I would cherish it forever, which shows the date of John Weyant and Susan Rose (married December 24, 1859, he died in 1911 and she in 1921) being married and then the dates of their children's birth, marriages and deaths of some of them. Katherine Bailey (Nelson, Weyant, Rose, Macy, Kniffen) Sacramento ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I have two cemeteries with Weyant's and Vought's. Round Pond, aka Gibney Farm and aka Kronkhyte. The other has three names too, Queensboro, Weyant and Brooks. About 30 Weyant's in Harriman and Bear Mountain State Park burying grounds by Stevenot, plus 5 Weiant's. Coleman has no Vought's or Weyant's. Barber has two Weyant's in Vail's Gate. Most of my Orange County Cemeteries are not indexed yet.

Supposedly Dr. E. A. Webb married Sarah Carpenter. He was a son of Benjamin Webb and Sarah Vail. Carol -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Analytix: RobinC Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 11:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYORANGE] Webb At 10:25 AM 4/3/2007 -0400, you wrote: >At 02:03 AM 4/3/2007 -0400, you wrote: > >Festus Webb married Sarah Crain. Their Daughter Frances Emily was born > >1807, died 1889, married Isaiah Vail Mapes 1828 (1805-1880). > > > >Festus lived in the Town of Minisink before 1850. > > > >Does anyone have any more information on this family? > > > >Carol Van Buren Hello Again Carol: After sending my recent response, I realized that of course the "Sally Webb" daughter of William Crane who is cited in William Crane's will "must" be the same person as your "Sarah Crain" who married Festus Webb. Now, here's a new hypothesis. Checking on Sarah/Sally, I find the following in Coulter (p.13): "July 5, Dr. Eusobius Austin Webb from Pres. Church Goshen died. Sept 15. 1889 in 78th yr. Sarah C. Webb his wife from Pres. Ch. Goshen d. Sept19,1884 age 72 yrs." Does it not seem likely this Sarah C. Webb is the same person as your Sarah Crain/Crane? If so, then either your Sarah-Festus marriage is questionable...OR (ta ta TAA ta TAAA!)...unless Dr. Eusobius Austin Webb is the same person as Festus A. Webb! In fact, I'd bet on it. Note that my recent message says both Festus and Andrew are mentioned in the Crane will. Well, they are also mentioned together in the April 1820 will of Samuel Webb, where Andrew is named as a nephew (of Samuel) and son of Samuel's brother Charles. Still no info on where Festus (Eusobius) fits in with the other Webbs. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message