I believe my ancestor, Giles Goodrich, Sr., moved to Onondaga County sometime after 1800, and is in the 1810 and 1820 census data. In 1820, he is listed as living in Cicero. I believe he may have died in the 1820's (He would have been 65 in 1820.) If his first wife was still with him, her name was Hannah Stanclift Goodrich. I have previously tried cemetery look-ups, but don't really have any idea if I am looking in all the right places for Cicero. Giles and Hannah would have come to Onondaga from Middlesex County, CT -- maybe I should see if they are buried back in CT? Also, the Kathy Crowell mentioned in today's mail wrote a history of Manlius stating that a Giles Goodrich Jr. sold land in Manlius in 1810 (but I also had my email to her bounce). The ONLY two Giles Goodrich's in the entire U.S. census data base for the period 1810-1850 are listed in New York. And the only one before that was the one in CT in 1790 and 1800. I am trying to verify the birth of Philo Goodrich to Giles Goodrich Jr. in 1812 -- and I believe he was still in Onondaga County at the time. (I believe he is in Orange County in the 1830-1950 census data.) If someone can help me re how to find graves or obituaries -- or find birth records in Onondaga County around 1812 -- or how to look for wills, I would greatly appreciate it. My searches of internet cemetery and other sites have been fruitless except for the info I have provided. I live in New Mexico -- would try to plan a trip back east next year if it makes sense to do so. (So near, yet so far!) (g) Thanks for any assistance! Margaret Goodrich Hodge --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.538 / Virus Database: 333 - Release Date: 11/10/2003