Building a stronger Central New York GenealogicalCommunity. You can help! Let's work together, Jim Hartigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hartigan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Barber ALLEN - 1810-1830 census - NY>IL > Liz: > This is not entirely a fact. I selectively limit this type of reply to folks > looking for options, pre-1860. Then I offer to do a free lookup of the > nearest to the inquirer available current public subscriber/member > collection of "TREE TALKS". > It's all about choices, > Jim Hartigan > Camillus, NY > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "liz Parmalee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:51 PM > Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Barber ALLEN - 1810-1830 census - NY>IL > > > > Mel, > > Mr. Hartigan promotes his organization in answer to all inquiries people > > post on different mailing lists pertaining to western NY. It is very > > annoying. > > Liz > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mel Slane" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:28 PM > > Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Barber ALLEN - 1810-1830 census - NY>IL > > > > > > > Regrading the message from Sharon, I don't see this commercialization > > you're > > > talking about. Can you explain yourself ? > > > > > > mel slane > > > peoria, il > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sharon" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:17 PM > > > Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Barber ALLEN - 1810-1830 census - NY>IL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --WebTV-Mail-14394-510 > > > > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=3DUS-ASCII > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > > > > > > > I thought this sort of commercialization of rootsweb lists was not > > > > allowed. > > > > I am about to unsubscribe from this list as many have done from other > > > > lists as I really do not want any more spam from this person. This > > > > person has lost posting privileges from other sites for this. Why is > it > > > > allowed here? > > > > Thank You. > > > > S.K. Garrett > > > > > > > > > > > > --WebTV-Mail-14394-510 > > > > Content-Disposition: Inline > > > > Content-Type: Message/RFC822 > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > > > > > > > Received: from smtpin-3105.bay.webtv.net (209.240.204.215) by > > > > storefull-2353.public.lawson.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Wed, 29 Oct > > > > 2003 15:09:12 -0800 (PST) > > > > Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com > [207.40.200.39]) > > = > > > > by > > > > smtpin-3105.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id > > > > 1E7A0FFB6; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:07:23 -0800 (PST) > > > > Received: (from [email protected]) by lists2.rootsweb.com > (8.12.8/8.12.8) > > i= > > > > d > > > > h9TMoY41010519; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:50:34 -0700 > > > > Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:50:34 -0700 > > > > X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Wed Oct 29 15:50:33 2003 > > > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > > From: "Jim Hartigan" <[email protected]> > > > > Old-To: <[email protected]> > > > > References: <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Barber ALLEN - 1810-1830 census - NY>IL > > > > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:52:35 -0500 > > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > X-Priority: 3 > > > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 > > > > X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 > > > > X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine > > > > Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Resent-From: [email protected] > > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/2579 > > > > X-Loop: [email protected] > > > > Precedence: list > > > > Resent-Sender: [email protected] > > > > X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive > > > > > > > > We preserve records, we share information about abstracted pre-1860 > > recor= > > > > ds > > > > of 48 NY State counties straddling various migration trails. I will > look > > = > > > > up > > > > the address of a current public subscriber to "TREE TALKS" near where > > you > > > > live. Just reply to me with your city & state. > > > > Http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycnygs > > > > Jim Hartigan > > > > Proud Member > > > > Central New York Genealogical Society > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:21 PM > > > > Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Barber ALLEN - 1810-1830 census - NY>IL > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to the list and trying to sort through information that > would > > > > lead > > > > > to parents of Aaron Mott ALLEN born May 1802 in Cayuga County to > > parent= > > > > s > > > > from > > > > > NJ (father) and PA (mother). Aaron married in 1829 in Meigs County, > > OH > > > > and was > > > > > in McDonough County, IL by April 1836. I would welcome any clues > > > > regarding > > > > > any of the ALLENs during the early 1800s. > > > > > > > > > > The following pieces for Barber ALLEN and his son Judson W. ALLEN > may > > h= > > > > elp > > > > > other Cayuga County ALLEN researchers: > > > > > > > > > > "Name: ALLEN, J. W. > > > > > Year/Date: 1870 > > > > > Publication: Atlas Map Of Knox County Illinois; published by > Andreas, > > > > Lyter & > > > > > Co.; Davenport, Iowa, ca 1870, 91 pages. > > > > > Location: Ontario, Knox Co. IL > > > > > Occupation: Farmer > > > > > Residence: Oneida [25] > > > > > Notes: native of New York; arrived 1837 from Cayuga co., NY The 1870 > > AT= > > > > LAS > > > > > MAP of Knox County Illinois was a subscriber publication. That is, > > only > > > > those > > > > > Knox County residents who paid a subscription fee were listed in the > > > > Subscriber > > > > > sections of the Atlas. This document lists all of the subscriber > > > > information > > > > > that is found in the Atlas. In some instances, using other > information > > > > found in > > > > > the Atlas, additional names and information have listed beyond the > > > > original > > > > > list of subscribers." > > > > > > > > > > "J. W." was most probably Judson Allen (about 29 years old in 1850 > > cens= > > > > us > > > > > Knox Co., IL) listed with his father(?), Barber Allen (age 74, born > > VT)= > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > Barber Allen, father, listed: > > > > > 1850 Census Knox County, IL - "11N 1E" township -- Born Vermont > > > > > Image 1 of 16, Line 9: > > > > > 630 636 Barber ALLEN; 74; M; Farmer; 1,000; VT > > > > > Mary ALLEN; 67; F; --; --; N Scotia > > > > > Judson ALLEN; 29; M; --; --; NY > > > > > S. R. HARDENBURG; 46; F; --; --; N Hamp > > > > > Sarah HARDENBURG; 14; F; --; --; NY > > > > > John HARDENBURG; 12; M; --; --; NY > > > > > Barber HARDENBURG; 10; M; --; --; IL > > > > > Elsey HARDENBURG; 5; F; --; --; IL > > > > > Henry WHITE; 25; M; Mill Wright; --; Ohio > > > > > Alfred [G?}REGG; 21; M; Student; --; unknown > > > > > Lydia [J?]OHNSTON; 16; F; Student; --; Canady > > > > > > > > > > 1840 Census Knox County, IL - "Unknown" townships > > > > > Barber ALLEN > > > > > Males: 1 @ 5-10; 1 @ 20-30; 1 @ 60-70; > > > > > Females: 1 @ 0-5; 1 @ 15-20; 1 @ 40-50 [Image 15 of 20 > > > > > (Ancestry.com)] [Roll: M704_62; Page 49; Image 97] Knox County, IL > > ..= > > > > . > > > > unknown townships > > > > > > > > > > 1830 Census Cayuga County, NY - Cato Township > > > > > ALLEN, Barber > > > > > Males: 2-0-1-0-2-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0 > > > > > Females: 0-1-1-2-2-0-1-0-0-0-0- [image 13 of 22] > > > > > > > > > > 1820 Census Cayuga County, NY - Cato Township > > > > > ALLEN, Barber > > > > > Males: 1-2-0-0-1-0 > > > > > Females: 4-1-0-2-0-0-3 [image 6 of 16] > > > > > > > > > > 1810 Census Cayuga County, NY [listed as Barba ALLEN] > > > > > ALLEN, Barba > > > > > Males: 5-0-0-1-0 > > > > > Females: 3-0-1-1-0 [image 6 of 8] > > > > > > > > > > There is a marriage record for a Judson W. 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