> Subject: Albert HARDMAN, Julia and Lillian HINMAn of Syracuse > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:36:25 -0400 > From: "Nelson Denton" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hi I'm new to this list and I don't know if I have the right county. If I'm off > base please point me in the right direction. > > I'm seeking my great uncle Albert HARDMAN who was born in Dundas Ontario 13 Mar > 1888 He moved to Syracuse New York sometime around 1909. He lived at 455 > Shonnard St in Syracuse. > > He married a Julia HINMAN July 31 1911 She lived at 204 Seymour Street in > Syracuse. Julia died soon after of complications of childbirth. Julia and Albert > had a boy Joe. > Julia was buried in Oak Wood Cemetery May 8th 1912? > > Albert appears to have married Julia's sister Lillian HINMAN a few years later. > > Dates and places are from old postcards home. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Nelson Denton > The 1910 Census for ward 12, Syracuse, Onondaga, New York enumeration district 148 page 15A enumerated 27 April 1910 204 Seymour Street 204 138 382 HARDMAN, Nathaniel head 56 Wd 25 - - Engl Engl Engl 1910 Al Spinner Gear Co. ---, Albert son 23 S - - - Cana Engl Engl 1909 Al Machinist Gear Co. ---, Lorne son 20 S - - - Cana Engl Engl 1910 Al Machinist Rawhide Co. - - 383 HINMAN, Catherine head 45 D - 3 3 Wale Wale Wale 1890 - Laundress Laundry ---, Lillian daughter 18 S - - - NY Wale Wale - - Laundress Laundry ---, Julia daughter 17 S - - - NY Wale Wale - - Laundress Laundry ---, Myra daughter 15 S - - - NY Wale Wale - - Check Girl Department Store WINDHOLZ, Charles A roomer 28 S - - - NY Germ Engl - - Canner Canning factory CRUCHMAN(?), Porter J roomer 53 Wd - - - NY NY NY - - Cashier Mfg. Co. The 1920 Census in Syracuse lists Albert, 32, and Lillian, 28, HARDMAN with sons, Charles, 8; Albert, 7; and Earl, 5. The 1930 Census in Syracuse lists Lillian HARDMAN, 38, as head of house, married at 21. Note she is listed as "married" not "widowed". In the same household are her sons, Charles, 18; Albert, 17; and Earl, 15, and her mother Catherine HINMAN, age 64, widowed. In both the 1920 and 1930 Censuses, Lillian's father's birthplace is listed as Connecticut. ---- Bill

Thanks Bill for your help. I'm trying to make sense of about 200 postcards from all over. Of course nobody used the proper names of anyone so it's a mess sorting them all out. I see that Julia and Albert seem to have had a "shotgun wedding" as baby Charles was born abt Jan of 1912 with a wedding July 31 1911! He must have been a very big preemie! Julia Hinman-Hammond died abt Jan 1912 from what I can tell now. I don't know now who died abt April 30 1912 and was buried May 8 1912 in Oak Wood Cem.. Myra?? Mr. Hinman?? somebody else?? ARRRGH! The Hinmans and Hardmans moved in together in 1912 as I have that on a postcard. G--Uncle Albert seems to have become very close to Lillian as they signed cards as a "couple" within months and "Albert Jr". shows up within a year later. . . Lorne was another g-uncle and Nathaniel was my G-grandfather. |I knew they were in the U.S. about that time but I didn't have addresses.