Hi Betty, You may want to search the Onondaga County USGenWeb site for information. Kathy Crowell and Sue Goodfellow from Manlius have added a ton of records for Manlius. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyononda/MANLIUS/MANLIUS.HTM You may also like to contact Kathy Crowell at LCrow10101@aol.com if you don't find what you're looking for at the site yet. Good luck! Pam Priest http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyononda/INDEX.HTM Onondaga County USGenWeb Site Coordinator Onondaga County Mailing List Owner. I have a dead end with two ancestors. Giles Sadler and Sophia Robinson were born somewhere in MA according to census records. They show up in Cicero in the 1830 census as a married couple. I figure that Giles was born in 1804-5 and Sophia in 1808-9. There is some indication that Giles at least may have been in Manlius in 1820 living with a brother or cousin and there are also some Robinsons in Manlius at that time. Other than census information, what exists for this time period in these two towns? And where would I go to find it. Does anyone have phone numbers for the town historians concerned? Betty Wilson Elizwil827@aol.com