Are those apartments there currently? -----Original Message----- From: David and Janet [mailto:djrpublic@cfl.rr.com] March 31, 2007 6:06 PM To: nyononda@rootsweb.com Re: Jackson St, Marcellus From someone who lives near there and whose husband went to school there: There is no Jackson Street, Road, Ave or anything in Marcellus. Jackson Street n Syracuse runs bet Townsend nd Almond south of Adams street. Brick apartments, subsidized housing that you can see from I81.

Folks, While looking for my Carpenter/Wisner/Melvins, I found the above James C. Carpenter listed one household away from Timothy Lockwood who was the husband of my aunt Betsy (nee Melvin) descended from James Wisner and his wife Elizabeth Runyon Carpenter, dau of Moses Carpenter of Orange and Onondaga Cos. NY. James C. Carpenter age 28, blacksmith, value of real estate 1000 value of personal 200 b NY Elizabeth Carpenter age 24 (too hard to read) b. Ohio ----------------------- My Timothy is also listed in the IO state census 1856, but I didn't find James Carpenter. I did find an ALBERT H. CARPENTER in the 1851 Iowa state census. Phoebe in CA ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Thank You Rick for your Response. By nature , I always jump to help anyone. I mean well but I see I shouldnt try to help anyone else in the Onondaga area When It confuses me so much. I've done very well as an amateur on all my other surnames,But this one is my toughest . I found my Roscoes in the 1930 census in Syracuse but that had Just their name and birth In Canada, Then His wifes Parents "Cousino" In 1925 Marcellus. I wish the Onondaga Gen/Web had more newspapers and obituaries like the Oneida County Gen/ Web Some how, some where I got the idea that Marcellus might of been part of Onondaga County,Or Syracuse Ny I apologize to all for any good intended interruptions I've made. My Family tree is nearly complete I'm just lacking the Roscoe/Racicot and Cousino branches. would you happen to know who I could hire to connect these surnames from The syracuse time frame to 1930 back to Cheneville Canada 1887 ? I can get the rest from there. It is this time period I dont have when the family is using both names And I cant pick out my Family from the others. Thanks again Rick , Connie http://community.webtv.net/cryingkate1/WatsonRoscoeFamily

Connie, I grew up in Camillus and have since moved away. Even now when I tell someone where I grew up I will say Syracuse, NY. Perhaps that is what people said about Marcellus even years ago if they were talking to people not from the region. Rick Bova Researching in Onondaga County: Bova, Lascola, McNamara, Purcell, O'keefe Researching in Cayuga County: Griffin, Nugent, O'keefe http://members.cox.net/bova-genealogy/ Connie wrote: >I've been watching this conversation and hoping my own questions would >be answered. >I'm having a bit of confusion myself about my Blanchards, Cousinos. & >Roscoes >Apparently I'm getting confused. With Marcellus and Syracuse too. >I think that perhaps Syracuse might of included Marcellus at one time ? >And possibly Jordon, Cammillus ? > >Does anyone know when what Territory was named what at certain years? > >http://community.webtv.net/cryingkate1/WatsonRoscoeFamily > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Back when I owned a gentlemen's farm in Sullivan, NY just outside of Chittenango in the 1980's, I had purchased an arial photo of the farm from Vick's Sky Prints RD#3 Foley Rd. Box 86 Westdale, NY 13483-0086 315-964-2757 I did a search on Vick's Sky Prints on google and came up with the following page that list the various arial photographer in NY State. http://www.photographypros.com/aerial-photography/newyork.php. Rick Bova Researching in Onondaga County: Bova, Lascola, McNamara, Purcell, O'keefe Researching in Cayuga County: Griffin, Nugent, O'keefe Bill5308@aol.com wrote: >I have been looking for air photos taken by photographers from airplanes in >the Central New York region. > >An early source of photos is "Mason Flying Service" Air Photo from Geneva, >NY. the Geneva Historical Society tells me that the Mason Flying Service was >no longer listed in the Geneva Directory by 1950. I have not been able to >locate anyone that knows what happened to them or where their negatives might >be housed. > > > >Bill & Joanne Casey >Casey Organic Dairy Farms >PO Box 36 >1136 Berry Road >Apulia Station, NY 13020 >315 810-4190 >315.683.5674_bill5308@aol.com_ (mailto:bill5308@aol.com) > > > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hi Bill, I had a few minutes to spare so I did a little searching but this was all I could find One of the more unusual happenings in our town occurred in 1930. Henry Mason, a young man residing on Vienna Street, built a Heath Parasoal airplane. With a wing span of 25 feet, an 8 gallon fuel tank and a lift capacity of 350 pounds, it was capable of a flight of several hundred miles. By 1937, Henry was operating a flying service reported to be the only one between Syracuse and Rochester. On August 24, 1956, at age 49, this pioneer aviator died and is buried in the Palmyra cemetery. http://www.palmyrany.com/archive/history.htm Best Regards, Mike -----Original Message----- From: nyononda-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyononda-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Bill5308@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:11 PM To: NYS-LGH@UNIX10.NYSED.GOV; NYHIST-L@listserv.nysed.gov; NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com; NYS-LGH@listserv.nysed.gov Subject: [NYONONDA] Air Photos by the "Mason Flying Service" I have been looking for air photos taken by photographers from airplanes in the Central New York region. An early source of photos is "Mason Flying Service" Air Photo from Geneva, NY. the Geneva Historical Society tells me that the Mason Flying Service was no longer listed in the Geneva Directory by 1950. I have not been able to locate anyone that knows what happened to them or where their negatives might be housed. Bill & Joanne Casey Casey Organic Dairy Farms PO Box 36 1136 Berry Road Apulia Station, NY 13020 315 810-4190 315.683.5674_bill5308@aol.com_ (mailto:bill5308@aol.com) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cornell University has a good series of 1938 and later aerial photos for some parts of central New York at http://aerial-ny.library.cornell.edu:6779/ny/index.cfm They might posibly have the other ones you want but they are not yet online. You could check with a librarian there. The full set of the 1938? (possibly 1935 from memory) aerial photos of Onondaga County are downstairs in the County Clerk's Archives. They used to be in a large wooden box right near the inner door and there was a large map key to the whole set mounted on a piece of cardboard. Dick Hillenbrand On 4/3/07, Bill5308@aol.com <Bill5308@aol.com> wrote: > > I have been looking for air photos taken by photographers from airplanes > in > the Central New York region. > > An early source of photos is "Mason Flying Service" Air Photo > from Geneva, > NY. the Geneva Historical Society tells me that the Mason Flying Service > was > no longer listed in the Geneva Directory by 1950. I have not been able > to > locate anyone that knows what happened to them or where their negatives > might > be housed. > > > > Bill & Joanne Casey > Casey Organic Dairy Farms > PO Box 36 > 1136 Berry Road > Apulia Station, NY 13020 > 315 810-4190 > 315.683.5674_bill5308@aol.com_ (mailto:bill5308@aol.com) > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dick Hillenbrand - (Please visit any of my websites below...) Upstate New York Genealogy website: http://www.unyg.com blog (NYS) http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/ blog (not NYS) http://genemisc.blogspot.com/ member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG)

Hello I know I sent this information previously and if the Special Collections Dept are contacted it should clear this problem up. Go to the Onondaga Main Public Library URL below http://www.onlib.org/website/LH/lh.htm Click on Ask a Librarian. Then type a request for them to check the City and County Directories and Also the City and Marcellus Telephone Directories for the necessary period. 5 Years prior and 5 Years after would cover a 10 year span and give you an accurate idea where they lived in that 10 years period. But you need to send a request clearly stating this. Good Luck Pat R

I have been looking for air photos taken by photographers from airplanes in the Central New York region. An early source of photos is "Mason Flying Service" Air Photo from Geneva, NY. the Geneva Historical Society tells me that the Mason Flying Service was no longer listed in the Geneva Directory by 1950. I have not been able to locate anyone that knows what happened to them or where their negatives might be housed. Bill & Joanne Casey Casey Organic Dairy Farms PO Box 36 1136 Berry Road Apulia Station, NY 13020 315 810-4190 315.683.5674_bill5308@aol.com_ (mailto:bill5308@aol.com) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Wow - think this sort of ans the question... if they weren't found in 1949 then I hope Mom was right, and she should be, that they were in Marcellus! Wonder why the paper would give a Jackson St. address.... Very strange. Thank you very much! -----Original Message-----From: MuskratBay@aol.com [mailto:MuskratBay@aol.com] April 02, 2007 11:24 PM To: nyononda@rootsweb.com Re: Jackson St 1952 1949 City Directory says: 112 Jackson St Mrs Charlotte Miner - 1 Almeron Powell - 2 112 1/2 Jackson St Vacant There is no Frank nor Laura Rowe listed. I did not see any Rowe's on Jackson St at all.

I greatly appreciate the responses.... Truly. Does anyone have a 1949 city directory with which they can look up Frank and Laura Rowe for me? Question: how do you feel abt snipping or removing previous responses from the current response? The issue is - how many times do responses need to be stored on the internet in perpetuity? I feel I should snip them when responding esp. if they are not related to the 'question'. But I am not certain. -----Original Message----- From: Diane Sweeney Groman [mailto:mayogirl14@hotmail.com] April 02, 2007 4:12 PM To: nyononda@rootsweb.com Subject: Jackson St 1952 have a city dir for Syr for 1952- there was a Jackson st. Beginning w house numbers 101-327 appeared to be reg res homes, then numbers 402-621 was the 'Syracuse Housing Projects'. n 1952, folks living at 112 Jackson St was Albert Grant, Robt S Hill, Ralph L Corson,, Mrs Marjorie Harriger and Edward Harriger families. There was a Frank R and Laura ROWE listed in the dir- occ was newspaper salesman, home was 311 E Genesee. Diane Sweeney Groman ----- Original Message ----- From: nyononda-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:nyononda-request@rootsweb.com> To: nyononda@rootsweb.com<mailto:nyononda@rootsweb.com Sat March 31, 2007 12:01 AM Subject: NYONONDA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 74 Today's Topics: 1. Marcellus NY (rolauren) 2. Re: Marcellus NY (Dick Hillenbrand) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:45:01 From: "rolauren" <rolauren@verizon.net<mailto:rolauren@verizon.net>> Subject: [NYONONDA] Marcellus NY Can anyone tell me if there is or was a Jackson St or road in Marcellus? In my mothers wedding announcement it reports that she and my fa were going to stay w his pts at 112 Jackson St Syracuse - Mom said the parents Frank and Laura Rowe lived in Marcellus not Syracuse and they lived on a country road not a street. Mom does not recall the address... the time frame was August 1949.... ------------------------------ Message: 2 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:25:40 -From: "Dick Hillenbrand" <nygenes@gmail.com<mailto:nygenes@gmail.com>> Re: Marcellus NY On the 1930 census there is a Frank, Laura & son Robert ROWE at 160 Lincoln Av n Syracuse. Funny thing, I "might" have known them, My grnpts res 139 Lincoln Ave. used to visit a lot of th neighbors. I don't think there was a Jackson St. in Marcellus, but you might check one of the Syracuse Suburban directories for about that time period. Don't know if it goes out as far as Marcellus or not. There is now a Jackson St. in Syracuse, but it is a tiny little thingtucked n under Route 81, down behind Crouse Irving Hospital, only a couple blocks long, don't know if it existed before urban renewal. Check w Local Hist / Genealogy at OCPL, or even call the library in Marcellus, They should know. Dick Hillenbrand On 3/30/07, rolauren <rolauren@verizon.net<mailto:rolauren@verizon.net>> wrote: > > Can anyone tell me if there is or was a Jackson St or road in Marcellus? > In my mothers wedding announcement it reports that she and my father were > going to stay with his parents > at 112 Jackson St Syracuse - Mom said the parents Frank and Laura Rowe > lived in Marcellus not Syracuse and they lived on a country road not a > street. > Mom does not recall the address... the time frame was August 1949.... -- Dick Hillenbrand - (Please visit any of my websites below...) Upstate New York Genealogy website: http://www.unyg.com<http://www.unyg.com/> blog (NYS) http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/<http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/> blog (not NYS) http://genemisc.blogspot.com/<http://genemisc.blogspot.com/> member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG) End of NYONONDA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 74 ***************************************

To be more accurate, 1950 & 1952 directories should be checked. I think 1949 only covers until June or July or 1949 or so. The earlier directories sometimes had more specific dates on every other page. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

That Jackson Cemetery is in the middle of a farm field near the Nortwest corner of Route 20 and SE Townline Road. That road has always been known as Townline Rd. It is immediately adjacent to the Town of Onondaga. You can see it in an aerial view by going to google maps, put in "Navarino, NY" and then go to the intersection as above. It is that grove of trees in the middle of the field North of the farm on Route 20. I have crawled all around that cemetery several times, it is in deplorable condition and you have to ask for permission to trespass. Dick Hillenbrand. On 4/3/07, JGuppy7812@aol.com <JGuppy7812@aol.com> wrote: > > There is or was a Jackson Cemetery in Marcellus. It's now on private > property and abandoned. I dont know if this relevant. Could this have > once been > Jackson Street or Road??? > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dick Hillenbrand - (Please visit any of my websites below...) Upstate New York Genealogy website: http://www.unyg.com blog (NYS) http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/ blog (not NYS) http://genemisc.blogspot.com/ member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG)

There is or was a Jackson Cemetery in Marcellus. It's now on private property and abandoned. I dont know if this relevant. Could this have once been Jackson Street or Road??? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I've been watching this conversation and hoping my own questions would be answered. I'm having a bit of confusion myself about my Blanchards, Cousinos. & Roscoes Apparently I'm getting confused. With Marcellus and Syracuse too. I think that perhaps Syracuse might of included Marcellus at one time ? And possibly Jordon, Cammillus ? Does anyone know when what Territory was named what at certain years? http://community.webtv.net/cryingkate1/WatsonRoscoeFamily

1949 City Directory says: 112 Jackson St Mrs Charlotte Miner - 1 Almeron Powell - 2 112 1/2 Jackson St Vacant There is no Frank nor Laura Rowe listed. I did not see any Rowe's on Jackson St at all. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I have a city dir for Syracuse for 1952- there was a Jackson st. Beginning with house numbers 101-327 appeared to be regular residential homes, then with numbers 402-621 was the 'Syracuse Housing Projects'. In 1952, folks living at 112 Jackson St was Albert Grant, Robt S Hill, Ralph L Corson,, Mrs Marjorie Harriger and Edward Harriger families. There was a Frank R and Laura ROWE listed in the directory- occupation was newspaper salesman, home was 311 E Genesee. Diane Sweeney Groman ----- Original Message ----- From: nyononda-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:nyononda-request@rootsweb.com> To: nyononda@rootsweb.com<mailto:nyononda@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 12:01 AM Subject: NYONONDA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 74 Today's Topics: 1. Marcellus NY (rolauren) 2. Re: Marcellus NY (Dick Hillenbrand) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:45:01 -0500 From: "rolauren" <rolauren@verizon.net<mailto:rolauren@verizon.net>> Subject: [NYONONDA] Marcellus NY To: <nyononda@rootsweb.com<mailto:nyononda@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <OEENIGLGHPLNAHHMDMJBGENLCIAA.rolauren@verizon.net<mailto:OEENIGLGHPLNAHHMDMJBGENLCIAA.rolauren@verizon.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Can anyone tell me if there is or was a Jackson St or road in Marcellus? In my mothers wedding announcement it reports that she and my father were going to stay with his parents at 112 Jackson St Syracuse - Mom said the parents Frank and Laura Rowe lived in Marcellus not Syracuse and they lived on a country road not a street. Mom does not recall the address... the time frame was August 1949.... ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:25:40 -0400 From: "Dick Hillenbrand" <nygenes@gmail.com<mailto:nygenes@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [NYONONDA] Marcellus NY To: nyononda@rootsweb.com<mailto:nyononda@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <ac0d93440703301025j1c9de1f5pe0c6c43a93ca1925@mail.gmail.com<mailto:ac0d93440703301025j1c9de1f5pe0c6c43a93ca1925@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On the 1930 census there is a Frank, Laura & son Robert ROWE at 160 Lincoln Avenue in Syracuse. Funny thing, I "might" have known them. My grandparents lived at 139 Lincoln Ave. and I used to visit a lot of the neighbors. I don't think there was a Jackson St. in Marcellus, but you might check one of the Syracuse Suburban directories for about that time period. Don't know if it goes out as far as Marcellus or not. There is now a Jackson St. in Syracuse, but it is a tiny little thingtucked in under Route 81, down behind Crouse Irving Hospital, only a couple blocks long, and don't know if it existed before urban renewal. Check with Local History / Genealogy at OCPL, or even call the library in Marcellus. They should know. Dick Hillenbrand On 3/30/07, rolauren <rolauren@verizon.net<mailto:rolauren@verizon.net>> wrote: > > Can anyone tell me if there is or was a Jackson St or road in Marcellus? > In my mothers wedding announcement it reports that she and my father were > going to stay with his parents > at 112 Jackson St Syracuse - Mom said the parents Frank and Laura Rowe > lived in Marcellus not Syracuse and they lived on a country road not a > street. > Mom does not recall the address... the time frame was August 1949.... > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dick Hillenbrand - (Please visit any of my websites below...) Upstate New York Genealogy website: http://www.unyg.com<http://www.unyg.com/> blog (NYS) http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/<http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/> blog (not NYS) http://genemisc.blogspot.com/<http://genemisc.blogspot.com/> member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG) ------------------------------ To contact the NYONONDA list administrator, send an email to NYONONDA-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYONONDA-admin@rootsweb.com>. To post a message to the NYONONDA mailing list, send an email to NYONONDA@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYONONDA@rootsweb.com>. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of NYONONDA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 74 ***************************************

From someone who lives near there and whose husband went to school there: There is no Jackson Street, Road, Ave or anything in Marcellus. Jackson Street in Syracuse runs between Townsend Street and Almond south of Adams street. Brick apartments, subsidized housing that you can see from I81.

On the 1930 census there is a Frank, Laura & son Robert ROWE at 160 Lincoln Avenue in Syracuse. Funny thing, I "might" have known them. My grandparents lived at 139 Lincoln Ave. and I used to visit a lot of the neighbors. I don't think there was a Jackson St. in Marcellus, but you might check one of the Syracuse Suburban directories for about that time period. Don't know if it goes out as far as Marcellus or not. There is now a Jackson St. in Syracuse, but it is a tiny little thingtucked in under Route 81, down behind Crouse Irving Hospital, only a couple blocks long, and don't know if it existed before urban renewal. Check with Local History / Genealogy at OCPL, or even call the library in Marcellus. They should know. Dick Hillenbrand On 3/30/07, rolauren <rolauren@verizon.net> wrote: > > Can anyone tell me if there is or was a Jackson St or road in Marcellus? > In my mothers wedding announcement it reports that she and my father were > going to stay with his parents > at 112 Jackson St Syracuse - Mom said the parents Frank and Laura Rowe > lived in Marcellus not Syracuse and they lived on a country road not a > street. > Mom does not recall the address... the time frame was August 1949.... > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dick Hillenbrand - (Please visit any of my websites below...) Upstate New York Genealogy website: http://www.unyg.com blog (NYS) http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/ blog (not NYS) http://genemisc.blogspot.com/ member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG)

Can anyone tell me if there is or was a Jackson St or road in Marcellus? In my mothers wedding announcement it reports that she and my father were going to stay with his parents at 112 Jackson St Syracuse - Mom said the parents Frank and Laura Rowe lived in Marcellus not Syracuse and they lived on a country road not a street. Mom does not recall the address... the time frame was August 1949....