Can anyone tell me where Lemon St was in Syracuse. Using the 1900 Census, it appears to run between E Washington & E Fayette Streets. Was Lemon renamed or no longer exists?

On Switchboard.com I found a D. M. Balcom in Syracuse, NY. Have you tried this person? There may be some connection. Thank you for trying to hook up "Grandma BALCOM" with her relatives. Judy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I've "rescued" an old photograph identified as "Grandma BALCOM" which was taken at the I. U. Doust Studio in Syracuse, New York. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's with the woman in the photograph likely in her 30's or 40's at the time it was taken. I'm hoping to locate someone from her family so that this beautiful old photograph can be returned to the care of her family. If you are a member of this BALCOM Family, or if you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Thanks, Mary for the email address of the library plus their webpage. (You were right the street was Webster Avenue.) And thanks to Carl Hommel for the interesting note about the area. I checked on Gordon Macrae in a couple of the newspapers and he seemed to be quite active in the entertainment field before making it to Hollywood! Got a good start in Syracuse, didn't he? Appreciate all the help and I'll have to check the city directories. (By 1920 George Mitchell had remarried but lived in the old area.) Thanks again, Mary

Mary, I don't see a Webster Street, but there is a Webster Avenue that is near where East Colvin becomes West Colvin (i.e. west of Rt. 11, which is west of the I-81 overpass). The only other suggestion I could make would be to try the Syracuse City directories for that time period; they should be available at the Onondaga County Public Library's 5th floor Local History collection at the main branch located at the Galleries in downtown Syracuse (this is the building next door to where I work -- I work in the Dey's Centennial Plaza building). There is an e-mail address for the 5th floor -- lhg@onlib.org; their webpage is here: <http://www.onlib.org/website/LH/lh.htm> -- Good luck, Mary Mary Dobard wrote: > Mary, > Thanks for responding. I do have access to Ancestry which I recently upgraded (a special) which included the newspapers. The Syracuse Herald mentioned the death of Gertrude as partly quoted. The 1910 census finds her with husband, George, and son living on Webster St. Isn't that closer to West Colvin St.? The way it was worded is what gave me the impression that perhaps it was an institution/hospital of some kind. Perhaps not. It may be that she did work for the family. Any ideas of where else I might look would be appreciated. I need to check the libraries as Mr. Hellenbrand suggested as well as send for the death record. > Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary D. Taffet<mailto:mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu> > To: nyononda@rootsweb.com<mailto:nyononda@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [NYONONDA] Niottingham Farm? > > > Mary, > > The area you are referring to is the general neighborhood that I live in > (I'm one house away from Scott and Euclid, not far from Nottingham High > School and also not far from Drumlin's Country Club). > > What street did your Gertrude Mitchell live on? If I hadn't cancelled > my subscription to Ancestry.com I could probably look it up myself, but > I don't have access anymore. > > -- Mary D. Taffet >

Mary, I used to have a Herald paper route which would have included the corner of Scott and Euclid. I lived on Bradford Parkway then. (1940's). My father bought the first house in Bradford Hills, on Hulburt Rd (1927). Gordon MacRae lived two houses up the hill from us. Carl Hommel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Dobard" <mdobard@msn.com> To: <nyononda@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [NYONONDA] Niottingham Farm? > Mary, > Thanks for responding. I do have access to Ancestry which I recently > upgraded (a special) which included the newspapers. The Syracuse Herald > mentioned the death of Gertrude as partly quoted. The 1910 census finds > her with husband, George, and son living on Webster St. Isn't that closer > to West Colvin St.? The way it was worded is what gave me the impression > that perhaps it was an institution/hospital of some kind. Perhaps not. > It may be that she did work for the family. Any ideas of where else I > might look would be appreciated. I need to check the libraries as Mr. > Hellenbrand suggested as well as send for the death record. > Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary D. Taffet<mailto:mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu> > To: nyononda@rootsweb.com<mailto:nyononda@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [NYONONDA] Niottingham Farm? > > > Mary, > > The area you are referring to is the general neighborhood that I live in > (I'm one house away from Scott and Euclid, not far from Nottingham High > School and also not far from Drumlin's Country Club). > > What street did your Gertrude Mitchell live on? If I hadn't cancelled > my subscription to Ancestry.com I could probably look it up myself, but > I don't have access anymore. > > -- Mary D. Taffet > > > Mary Dobard wrote: > > Dick Hellenbrand, > > Thank you for the input. I wonder if perhaps Gertrude Mitchell could > have been employed there as they lived nearby. > > I used MapQuest and learned that the street the Mitchells lived on > wasn't too far away. I checked the Nottinghams who were living in Syracuse > at the time (census) but didn't find anyone on Colvin St which the paper > mentioned. I also noted that the Oakwood and Morningside cemeteries were > near where the Golf Club is located. Will have more sleuthing to do ! > > Thanks again. > > Mary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com> with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, Thanks for responding. I do have access to Ancestry which I recently upgraded (a special) which included the newspapers. The Syracuse Herald mentioned the death of Gertrude as partly quoted. The 1910 census finds her with husband, George, and son living on Webster St. Isn't that closer to West Colvin St.? The way it was worded is what gave me the impression that perhaps it was an institution/hospital of some kind. Perhaps not. It may be that she did work for the family. Any ideas of where else I might look would be appreciated. I need to check the libraries as Mr. Hellenbrand suggested as well as send for the death record. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary D. Taffet<mailto:mdtaffet@mailbox.syr.edu> To: nyononda@rootsweb.com<mailto:nyononda@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [NYONONDA] Niottingham Farm? Mary, The area you are referring to is the general neighborhood that I live in (I'm one house away from Scott and Euclid, not far from Nottingham High School and also not far from Drumlin's Country Club). What street did your Gertrude Mitchell live on? If I hadn't cancelled my subscription to Ancestry.com I could probably look it up myself, but I don't have access anymore. -- Mary D. Taffet Mary Dobard wrote: > Dick Hellenbrand, > Thank you for the input. I wonder if perhaps Gertrude Mitchell could have been employed there as they lived nearby. > I used MapQuest and learned that the street the Mitchells lived on wasn't too far away. I checked the Nottinghams who were living in Syracuse at the time (census) but didn't find anyone on Colvin St which the paper mentioned. I also noted that the Oakwood and Morningside cemeteries were near where the Golf Club is located. Will have more sleuthing to do ! > Thanks again. > Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, A search of the Syracuse University Library catalog brings up the following as the description of a thesis written in 1934: "History of cooperative ventures : with a detailed study of the organization and management of the cooperative dormitores at Syracuse University, with particular reference to Nottingham Cottage." So at the very least, there was a dormitory at SU referred to as "Nottingham Cottage". The SU campus is very close to the area you mention; some of the SU athletic facilities are on East Colvin, and some students currently live on the other side of East Colvin in the South Campus housing area. I don't know if Nottingham Cottage was related to Nottingham Farm or not. -- Mary D. Taffet Mary Dobard wrote: > In a 1914 Syracuse newspaper article it was said " she died at Nottingham Farm East Colvin St." > Can anyone tell me what kind of a facility this was? The woman was in her thirties. > Appreciate any help. > > Mary

Mary, The area you are referring to is the general neighborhood that I live in (I'm one house away from Scott and Euclid, not far from Nottingham High School and also not far from Drumlin's Country Club). What street did your Gertrude Mitchell live on? If I hadn't cancelled my subscription to Ancestry.com I could probably look it up myself, but I don't have access anymore. -- Mary D. Taffet Mary Dobard wrote: > Dick Hellenbrand, > Thank you for the input. I wonder if perhaps Gertrude Mitchell could have been employed there as they lived nearby. > I used MapQuest and learned that the street the Mitchells lived on wasn't too far away. I checked the Nottinghams who were living in Syracuse at the time (census) but didn't find anyone on Colvin St which the paper mentioned. I also noted that the Oakwood and Morningside cemeteries were near where the Golf Club is located. Will have more sleuthing to do ! > Thanks again. > Mary

Dick Hellenbrand, Thank you for the input. I wonder if perhaps Gertrude Mitchell could have been employed there as they lived nearby. I used MapQuest and learned that the street the Mitchells lived on wasn't too far away. I checked the Nottinghams who were living in Syracuse at the time (census) but didn't find anyone on Colvin St which the paper mentioned. I also noted that the Oakwood and Morningside cemeteries were near where the Golf Club is located. Will have more sleuthing to do ! Thanks again. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Hillenbrand<mailto:nygenes@gmail.com> To: nyononda@rootsweb.com<mailto:nyononda@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [NYONONDA] Niottingham Farm? >From memory and a quick Google search only, not official. The Nottingham Farm was where Drumlins Country Club is now, on Nottingham Road. The Nottinghams (Van Vleck and his brother Gorton,) came to Onondaga Co. from Dutchess Co. and had a large dairy farm on Lot 70. See the 1874 Sweets Atlas Map of Onondaga Co., posted on the Cayuga Co. GenWeb site. One of the sons, William, was a noted attorney and business man, in Syracuse and founded many industrial and transportation companies throughout the U.S. His bio may be found on Google Books, "The Green Bag" (periodical) March 1912. My mom, before she was married, did house work for Mrs. Nottingham and we lived in one of the Nottingham owned farm houses until 1948. I don't think there was ever any kind of an "institution" by this name, but could be wrong. The Onondaga Historical Association and Syracuse University should have good files on these people. William was a very big deal at SU. Dick Hillenbrand On 5/26/07, Mary Dobard <mdobard@msn.com<mailto:mdobard@msn.com>> wrote: > > In a 1914 Syracuse newspaper article it was said " she died at Nottingham > Farm East Colvin St." > Can anyone tell me what kind of a facility this was? The woman was in her > thirties. > Appreciate any help. > > Mary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dick Hillenbrand - (Please visit any of my websites below...) Upstate New York Genealogy website: http://www.unyg.com<http://www.unyg.com/> blog (NYS) http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/<http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/> blog (not NYS) http://genemisc.blogspot.com/<http://genemisc.blogspot.com/> member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol, This particular Wm. Deffiney was born in Canada (english) as was his father but his mother was Irish-English according to the census. It was a difficult name to find but in searching on Ancestry using the soundex many Devinne, Devaney, Devanne, etc. names came up along with Duffany! and with checking some of them out they was definitely Irish among them. Census takers didn't seem to ask how to spell a name, they just wrote down names according to how they sounded. If I can help with your Devinne or Definne please email me directly if you wish. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Bain<mailto:cbain44@twcny.rr.com> To: nyononda@rootsweb.com<mailto:nyononda@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [NYONONDA] DEFFINEY (DE fINEY), SULLIVAN and MADER Do you know if this "Definney" is Irish? I have been trying to trace my gr gr gr grandmother's maiden name. It is recorded as "Devinney" and "Devinne" and family history/recording has it as being an Irish name. I never thought to change the "v" to an "f". Maybe it's the same name! Let me know what you think. Thanks, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Dobard" <mdobard@msn.com<mailto:mdobard@msn.com>> To: <NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: [NYONONDA] DEFFINEY (DE fINEY), SULLIVAN and MADER > Mary E. SIGNOR married Patrick O Sullivan about 1890/91 and had three > sons. OSCAR born ca 1892; JOHN born ca 1900; and CHARLES born ca 1903; > all resided in Syracuse. > > On the 1910 census Mary is shown as a housekeeper for a William Deffiney a > widower. He had two sons, William and Louis. > > By 1930 Mary is listed a wife of Fred MADER living in Syracuse with a son, > Eddie MADER and step-son, Charles Sullivan. > > I have not been able to find Mary on the 1920 Syracuse census under any of > the above names. > > Did she marry Mr.Deffiney? The obituary on one of her sons indicated he > had two step-brothers named Deffiney! > > Any help sorting out Mary's marriages and children will be greatly > appreciated! > > Mary > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do you know if this "Definney" is Irish? I have been trying to trace my gr gr gr grandmother's maiden name. It is recorded as "Devinney" and "Devinne" and family history/recording has it as being an Irish name. I never thought to change the "v" to an "f". Maybe it's the same name! Let me know what you think. Thanks, Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Dobard" <mdobard@msn.com> To: <NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: [NYONONDA] DEFFINEY (DE fINEY), SULLIVAN and MADER > Mary E. SIGNOR married Patrick O Sullivan about 1890/91 and had three > sons. OSCAR born ca 1892; JOHN born ca 1900; and CHARLES born ca 1903; > all resided in Syracuse. > > On the 1910 census Mary is shown as a housekeeper for a William Deffiney a > widower. He had two sons, William and Louis. > > By 1930 Mary is listed a wife of Fred MADER living in Syracuse with a son, > Eddie MADER and step-son, Charles Sullivan. > > I have not been able to find Mary on the 1920 Syracuse census under any of > the above names. > > Did she marry Mr.Deffiney? The obituary on one of her sons indicated he > had two step-brothers named Deffiney! > > Any help sorting out Mary's marriages and children will be greatly > appreciated! > > Mary > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary E. SIGNOR married Patrick O Sullivan about 1890/91 and had three sons. OSCAR born ca 1892; JOHN born ca 1900; and CHARLES born ca 1903; all resided in Syracuse. On the 1910 census Mary is shown as a housekeeper for a William Deffiney a widower. He had two sons, William and Louis. By 1930 Mary is listed a wife of Fred MADER living in Syracuse with a son, Eddie MADER and step-son, Charles Sullivan. I have not been able to find Mary on the 1920 Syracuse census under any of the above names. Did she marry Mr.Deffiney? The obituary on one of her sons indicated he had two step-brothers named Deffiney! Any help sorting out Mary's marriages and children will be greatly appreciated! Mary

Have finally made progress thru my brick wall. The 1810 census for Camillus shows John Pitts (age 16-25) and a female (also 16-25) living next door to Samuel Pitts. The female is presumably the wife of John Pitts (b. 1788 Massachusetts). There are no children. A death certificate for Adolphus H. Pitts (b. 1811 New York) states that his father was John Pitts b. Massachusetts and mother was ____ Holbrook birthplace unknown. A look at the 1800 census for Onondaga County shows only 2 Holbrook families with daughters the correct age to be the wife of John Pitts. Josiah Holbrook and Baruch/Barick Holbrook. Josiah's daughters Rachel b. 1788 and Electa b.c. 1795 are possibilities (Rachel and Electa had a brother named Adolphus; there are references to 2 other sisters - Amanda & Abigail - but dates of birth are not conclusive). Baruch/Barick has a daughter Mary born c. 1792 who is a possibility. I cannot find a marriage or death record for any of these three Holbrook girls (or even a reference to a marriage or possible death date). Whichever Holbrook girl married John Pitts, she died between 1823-1829. The youngest child of John Pitts and ___ Holbrook was Ellenora Pitts. She was born January 30, 1823 in Pompey. On February 3, 1829 she entered the Onondaga County Poorhouse. Ellenora told her granddaughter (my grandmother) that her mother died when she (Ellenora) was "very young". She lived with "someone else" for a while until the money her father left for her care was gone and they put her in the orphanage. Ellenora's father retrieved her from the orphanage/poorhouse in August of 1832. Ellenora's death certificate says that her father was John Pitts and her mother was Lydian Holbrook. I find no record of a Lydian/Lydia Holbrook in Onondaga County. Noble Pitts (brother of John Pitts) and family members are buried in Pease Cemetery, as is Quartus Pitts (another brother). So are Josiah Holbrook Sr and Jr, their wives and Adolphus and his wife. I can find no death record for a female Pitts of the correct age in the correct time period. Any help in identifying my Holbrook would be greatly appreciated. Karen Pritchett

Does anyone know if the article on the Onondaga rootsweb page by Kathy Crowell entitled "NAME OF SOLDIERS WHO DREW LOTS IN THE MILITARY TRACT" contains all the information there is? She cites her sources but are there others that are not readily available? Thanks, Marvin --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

You might also try the Wayne Co. NY list. Dezeng Glass was a major company in Clyde NY for several decades. -----Original Message----- From: Shelley Cardiel [mailto:cardiels@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 11:55 PM To: NYONONDA@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYONONDA] DEZENG Family Photograph I've "rescued" an old photograph which is identified as A. M. DEZENG. The photograph was taken at the W. V. Banges Co. Studio in Syracuse, New York and is dated 1884. The young woman in the photograph appears to be in her 20's at the time the photograph was taken. In addition to her name and the date someone has also written the initials "K. A." on the back of the photograph. I'm hoping to locate someone from her family so that this beautiful old photograph can be returned to its rightful place with family. If you are a member of this DEZENG Family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

If no family members are located, please consider donating the photograph to the Onondaga County Public Library Local History and Genealogy Department, or to the Onondaga Historical Association, both in Syracuse, NY. This will preserve the photo for future generations Thanks Anne ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I've "rescued" an old photograph which is identified as A. M. DEZENG. The photograph was taken at the W. V. Banges Co. Studio in Syracuse, New York and is dated 1884. The young woman in the photograph appears to be in her 20's at the time the photograph was taken. In addition to her name and the date someone has also written the initials "K. A." on the back of the photograph. I'm hoping to locate someone from her family so that this beautiful old photograph can be returned to its rightful place with family. If you are a member of this DEZENG Family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

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I thought I'd share this website> http://www.ecnnews.com/storm/lost1.htm It contains many names that I am familiarized with as being French/Canadian and also Upstate New York Surnames. ( but not limited to) Hope it helps someone with a lost member.........Connie http://community.webtv.net/cryingkate1/WatsonRoscoeFamily