Folks, Let's try to remember to post surnames in the subject line! Thank you, Phoebe in CA Onondaga Co. Carpenter and Wisner ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

on 23/06/2007 09:24 AM, Foon123@aol.com at Foon123@aol.com wrote: > Pat, > > It's entirely possible that my grandmother's parents had a cottage at Stony > Island. I don't think my grandmother really talked about her childhood all > that much with her children - they only know little stories here and there. > It seems strange to me that my mother and her siblings never really asked her > about her life as a little girl, but I guess it was considered intrusive back > then. (They don't even know how their parents met!) My aunt came across > the photographs of my grandmother entirely by accident - no one had ever seen > them before. > > Do people swim in Lake Ontario? My grandmother was only 11 or 12 in the > photos - I can't imagine her fishing, but you never know!! Do you know how > far > Stony Island is from Syracuse (where my grandmother grew up). I live down > south and am not familiar with place locations in New York. > > Thanks! > Shannon > > Stony Island sounds like it might be one of the ³1000 Islands² at the NE corner of Lake Ontario and extending down the St Lawrence River. If so, Stony Island would be approximately 70-100 miles from Syracuse. Not exactly a day trip from Syracuse during that era, but certainly possible as an extened stay (2 ­ 4 weeks, longer?) As for peple swimming in Lake Ontario, Yes! It has many thousands of camps and other public beaches along its shores. HTH. Regards, Arnold <><><><><<><><><><><><> Arrowhead Images <aepalmer@a-znet.com> <><><><><<><><><><><><> My family crest is a shield with a crossed knife and fork over a dinner plate.

Pat, It's entirely possible that my grandmother's parents had a cottage at Stony Island. I don't think my grandmother really talked about her childhood all that much with her children - they only know little stories here and there. It seems strange to me that my mother and her siblings never really asked her about her life as a little girl, but I guess it was considered intrusive back then. (They don't even know how their parents met!) My aunt came across the photographs of my grandmother entirely by accident - no one had ever seen them before. Do people swim in Lake Ontario? My grandmother was only 11 or 12 in the photos - I can't imagine her fishing, but you never know!! Do you know how far Stony Island is from Syracuse (where my grandmother grew up). I live down south and am not familiar with place locations in New York. Thanks! Shannon ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

George, Pat, and Jim, Thank you for the great information and websites to check! My grandmother, Martha FARRELL, grew up in Syracuse (she was the granddaughter of Richard FARRELL, who was prominent in the salt industry there). It appears that she is wearing a bathing suit in the photos labeled "Stony Point" (boy those suits must have been uncomfortable and hot!!) I didn't realize Stony Point wasn't in Onondaga County - learn something new every day!! Thanks again for your help!! Shannon ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Shannon My Son just came back up to Cape Vincent from Camillus and I asked him where the Boys caught all the fish last Monday on their fishing trip. They got a huge catch and he told me they caught all of them over off Stony Island. I usually don't go until later as the water is still a little rough for me. So that makes me think that perhaps your Grandmother, Grandfather or someone in your immediate family were fisherman. Fishing was even better in those days. Perhaps someone in your immediate family owned a Cottage (that is what they were called years ago) or perhaps had a Dairy farm (many in the area at that time) close to the Lake. Could have been either her maternal or paternal Grandparents were from this locality. One of the big advantages of living here in Cape Vincent is we have both Lake Ontario and the St Lawrence River for fishing. We are where the River and Lake meet. The boys were fishing down off Pt Peninsula last weekend, Pat R

Hi Shannon, I assume you are talking about the Stony Island in New York located in Lake Ontario. If you go to the web address I have indicated below, you will se exactly where this island is located. I am very familiar with it since I have fished in those waters and my family has a cottage nearby on Henderson Bay. http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=&city=Henderson&state=NY&zipcode=#east<http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&level=&cat=&address=&city=Henderson&state=NY&zipcode=#east> Hope this helps you. George Page ----- Original Message ----- From: Foon123@aol.com<mailto:Foon123@aol.com> To: nyononda@rootsweb.com<mailto:nyononda@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:05 PM Subject: [NYONONDA] Stony Island I have some photographs which show my grandmother as a young girl in 1907 and 1908. On the back of the photos is written "Stony Island". Does anyone know if this was a popular summer vacation spot back then? Where exactly is it located? Thank you! Shannon ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com<http://www.aol.com/>. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Shannon You did not give very many details as to where your Grandmother lived? or a Surname. Although not far from Onondaga County I believe that this could very well be the Stony Island that is located in the Town of Hounsfield Jefferson County New York near Point Peninsula NY (The Road leading to Pt Peninsula is midway between Chaumont and Cape Vincent off Rt 12E). This Stony Point is on Lake Ontario. The Island is known for its wildlife and migratory birds and many local people fish the shoals around it for Small Mouth Bass, Walleye, Perch and Brown Bullheads (plus other fish). It is a Nature lovers paradise and well known in the area. I hope this helps you. Pat R

Go to nyjefferson@rotsweb.com do a search for Stony Island and you will get 15 hits for starters. Jim hartigan ----- Original Message ----- From: <Foon123@aol.com> To: <nyononda@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:05 PM Subject: [NYONONDA] Stony Island >I have some photographs which show my grandmother as a young girl in 1907 > and 1908. On the back of the photos is written "Stony Island". Does > anyone > know if this was a popular summer vacation spot back then? Where exactly > is it > located? > > Thank you! > Shannon > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONONDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/857 - Release Date: 6/20/2007 > 2:18 PM > >

I have some photographs which show my grandmother as a young girl in 1907 and 1908. On the back of the photos is written "Stony Island". Does anyone know if this was a popular summer vacation spot back then? Where exactly is it located? Thank you! Shannon ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Syracuse Herald Friday, 4 August 1933 Death Record . . . Claude P. Hart, 1487 East Colvin Street, died this morning at his home after a week's illness. He was a member of the Onondaga Aerie, F.O.E., and the Foresters of america. Surviving are his wife, Mrs. Minnie A. Hart; two daughters, Mrs. Florence Clark and Mrs. James Coomey; four sons, Arthur, Edward, William and Robert Donohue; a sister, Mrs. A. W. Evans, and three brothers, Leland, Fred and John Hart. The Rev. John N. Steele will conduct funeral services at the home at 2 P.M. Sunday. Burial will be at McLean, where Burns & Gaynor, undertakers, will take the body. . . . ====================================================================== Claude is my grandfather's brother. The surviving daughters and sons are the children of his wife Mary A. "Minnie" Barrett and her first husband John Bernard Donohue.

Syracuse Post-Standard Thursday, 6 February 1964 MRS. MARY BARRETT COOMEY, 87, of 1808 Bellvue Ave., died yesterday in a local nursing home after a long illness. Born in Fayetteville, Mrs. Coomey was a Syracuse resident 70 years. Surviving are two daughters, Mrs. Florence E. Clark and Mrs. Marion Coomey of Syracuse; four sons, Arthur J. Donahue of Orange, N.J., Edward D., Barrett W. and Robert F. Donahue of Syracuse; a sister, Miss Ellen Barrett of Syracuse; 20 grandchildren and 32 great-grandchildren. Services will be at 9:30 a.m. Saturday at the Edward F. Gaynor Funeral Home, 119 South Ave., and at 10 a.m. in Mosty Holy Rosary Church. Burial will be in St. Agnes Cemetery. Friends may call 7 to 9 p.m. today, 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. tomorrow. ==================================

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On the 1870 Census for Syracuse, Ward 4, Dwelling No. 142, there are two families living there, one (No. 181) headed by Michael Heitz, the other (No. 182) by (Christian) Fried. Behr, who was my GGGGrandfather. I notice that Behr and Heitz were both brewers, and the disparity of assets ($20,000 real estate and $15,000 personal assets for Heitz, $300 for Behr), which leads me to suspect that Heitz was Behr's boss and landlord. I'm wondering if people have any information on Heitz and his brewery. Thanks Jose Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour. - William Blake

Found the following in my data base: WILLIAM A Rowe WAS IN THE CIVIL WAR IN THE UNION ARMY. Dana Rowe repts the b as Feb 9 1843 w/same d though he adds poss b 1/19/1843 Brewer Maine d Jan 15 1935 m Catherine C. McCabe b 12 Mar 1848 d Feb 1921 three ch: Ella Maretta Rowe 1867-1896 Margaret M Rowe 1869 - 1949 Ralph Eugene Rowe an educator 1872 - unk might have more info - I'd have to chk... -----Original Message----- From: David and Janet [mailto:djrpublic@cfl.rr.com] Sent: June 15, 2007 10:04 AM To: nyononda@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYONONDA] NYONONDA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 nyononda-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > Re: [NYONONDA] Irvin Roe McCabe family reunion > From: > "rolauren" <rolauren@verizon.net> > Date: > Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:00:50 -0400 > To: > <nyononda@rootsweb.com>, <NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com> > > To: > <nyononda@rootsweb.com>, <NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Pls understand that the purpose of the list is to share all > information with everyone on the list with the forethought that many > will find the data helpful - so that's why I responded to the list.... > And for what it's worth so do I. > Question: both names Irvin and Roe are in my kin list > - I and many kin are from Onondaga county - does your fam connect to Roe? > Roe, Caroline b 1803 d 1893 Roe, Lydia b 1807 d 1892 m John Widrig ca 1830 Margaret Widrig b 1834 d 1888 m Jefferson McCabe 1856 Roe, Sally Maria b 1815 d ? No idea where the given name Irvin originated but it recurs often in my database. No Rowe's to be found. > I'd have to chk but there might be Rowell in the list too. > Lauren Deborah Rowe Syracuse > > -----Original Message----- > From: David and Janet [mailto:djrpublic@cfl.rr.com] > Sent: June 13, 2007 9:58 AM > To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYONONDA] Irvin Roe McCabe family reunion > > Many of the descendants of Irvin Roe McCabe (b 1857 d 1943) of > Onondaga County, New York will be getting together sometime in the 2nd > or 3rd week of July near Syracuse. If anyone would be interested in > further details contact me off list. > > -- > Dave Rowell >

If there was a new message here I don't see it.... Lauren Rowe b Oswego NY many kin in Onondaga County -----Original Message----- From: David and Janet [mailto:djrpublic@cfl.rr.com] Sent: June 15, 2007 10:04 AM To: nyononda@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYONONDA] NYONONDA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 nyononda-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Re: [NYONONDA] Irvin Roe McCabe family reunion > From: "rolauren" <rolauren@verizon.net> Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:00:50 -0400 > To: <nyononda@rootsweb.com>, <NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com> >> To: <nyononda@rootsweb.com>, <NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com> > Pls understand that the purpose of the list is to share all > information with everyone on the list with the forethought that many > will find the data helpful - so that's why I responded to the list.... > And for what it's worth so do I. > Question: both names Irvin and Roe are in my kin list > - I and many kin are from Onondaga county - does your fam connect to Roe? > Roe, Caroline b 1803 d 1893 Roe, Lydia b 1807 d 1892 m John Widrig ca 1830 Margaret Widrig b 1834 d 1888 m Jefferson McCabe 1856 Roe, Sally Maria b 1815 d ? No idea where the given name Irvin originated but it recurs often in my database. No Rowe's to be found. > I'd have to chk but there might be Rowell in the list too. > Lauren Deborah Rowe Syracuse > > -----Original Message----- > From: David and Janet [mailto:djrpublic@cfl.rr.com] June 13, 2007 9:58 AM > To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYONONDA] Irvin Roe McCabe family reunion >> Many of the descendants of Irvin Roe McCabe (b 1857 d 1943) of > Onondaga County, New York will be getting together sometime in the 2nd > or 3rd week of July near Syracuse. If anyone would be interested in further details contact me off list. >> --> Dave Rowell

I am trying to take my Abbe/Abbey line back to John Abbe in the 1600s. The Colonial Dames 17th Century, a lineage society, has no problem with all of the generation links proving a father-son connection except for William Abbey being the son of William Abbey. The following has been proven about the Abbeys: William Abbey, Sr. b. 14 Apr 1758, Mansfield, Tolland, CT d. 6 Aug 1833, Hall's Corners, Onondaga Co., NY m. 5 Jun 1777, Mansfield, CT Lydia Hall b. 9 Sept 1757, Mansfield, CT d. after 1844, place unknown Children: Charlotte , m. ____ Davis Elijah (1779- bef 1851), m. Betsy Masters William (1789-1856), m. Abigail (Nabby) Farnham Nathan A. ( 1787 - ) David (1792-1878), m. Phoebe Travis Isabel (1798 - ), m ______ North Lydia (1800 - ), m. ______ Curtis possible female, m. _______Carlisle William Abbey, Jr. b. 4 Mar 1786, CT d. 22 June 1856, Onondaga Co., NY m. about 1810, prob. Onondaga Co., NY Abigail Farnham(Varnum) b. 2 Aug 1793, CT d. 14 Jul 1864, Onondaga Co., NY Children: William S. (abt 1810- ), m. Margaret _____ Electa (about 1815 - bef 1856), m. Elijah Pinckney Joseph F. ( 1812-1880), m. Rebecca Mead The book by Abbe, Cleveland & Josephine Genung Nichols, Abbe-Abbey Geneology in Memory of John Abbey and His Descendants, has not been acceptable due to its lack of documentation. The census records before 1850 do not show the names of people in a household except for the head. The birth date of William, Jr. was calculated from South Onondaga cemetery records. I have not found a will for William, Sr. I have not found any land records that might tie the 2 Williams together. The only problem is proving that William, Jr. is the son of William Sr. Can anyone help with this. Thank you in advance. Sandy Fahrnbruch, a descendant of the Pinckneys and Abbeys of Onondaga Co., NY

nyononda-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Subject: > Re: [NYONONDA] Irvin Roe McCabe family reunion > From: > "rolauren" <rolauren@verizon.net> > Date: > Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:00:50 -0400 > To: > <nyononda@rootsweb.com>, <NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com> > > To: > <nyononda@rootsweb.com>, <NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Pls understand that the purpose of the list is to share all information with > everyone on the list with the forethought that many will find the data > helpful - so that's why I responded to the list.... > And for what it's worth so do I. > Question: both names Irvin and Roe are in my kin list > - I and many kin are from Onondaga county - does your fam connect to Roe? > Roe, Caroline b 1803 d 1893 Roe, Lydia b 1807 d 1892 m John Widrig ca 1830 Margaret Widrig b 1834 d 1888 m Jefferson McCabe 1856 Roe, Sally Maria b 1815 d ? No idea where the given name Irvin originated but it recurs often in my database. No Rowe's to be found. > I'd have to chk but there might be Rowell in the list too. > Lauren Deborah Rowe Syracuse > > -----Original Message----- > From: David and Janet [mailto:djrpublic@cfl.rr.com] > Sent: June 13, 2007 9:58 AM > To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYONONDA] Irvin Roe McCabe family reunion > > Many of the descendants of Irvin Roe McCabe (b 1857 d 1943) of Onondaga > County, New York will be getting together sometime in the 2nd or 3rd week of > July near Syracuse. If anyone would be interested in further details > contact me off list. > > -- > Dave Rowell >

Dear Mary, What I have done is to open Wordpad under Windows-Accessories and type in the article or else just print the entire page. I have not found a way yet to just print the article I want using the Ancestry.com image. If you have another program like membership in NewspaperArchive.com or Godfrey Memorial Library subscription that also offers NewspaperArchive; they open in PDF and you can highlight and save the article where you want or use the camera tool to save it as a picture. Joyce

Pls understand that the purpose of the list is to share all information with everyone on the list with the forethought that many will find the data helpful - so that's why I responded to the list.... Question: both names Irvin and Roe are in my kin list - I and many kin are from Onondaga county - does your fam connect to Roe? I'd have to chk but there might be Rowell in the list too. Lauren Deborah Rowe Syracuse -----Original Message----- From: David and Janet [mailto:djrpublic@cfl.rr.com] Sent: June 13, 2007 9:58 AM To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYONONDA] Irvin Roe McCabe family reunion Many of the descendants of Irvin Roe McCabe (b 1857 d 1943) of Onondaga County, New York will be getting together sometime in the 2nd or 3rd week of July near Syracuse. If anyone would be interested in further details contact me off list. -- Dave Rowell When all is said and done - more will be said than done!