Subj: Re: [HART-L] Fwd: cousins Date: 98-03-30 11:41:03 EST From: DIFlynn@aol.com (DI Flynn) To: HeidiLahey@aol.com, NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com, HART-L@rootsweb.com In a message dated 98-03-30 09:18:18 EST, you write (in a forwarded message): << By the way, my sister is divorced and remarried now, but her first husband is a Hart. He is from New Plymouth, ID and if I am not mistaken, his father grew up in western Oregon. Keep in touch. Let me know if you have any info that might possibly be of interest to me or if there is any more that I could give you that would help on your end. Joe >> Heidi, will you please forward this message to Joe because I don't have his e- mail address. Thanks, Diane diflynn@aol.com Joe, I am looking for my greatuncle, Lewis Hart and his descendants. Here's what I know about him: 1. Lewis Hart was born c. 1875 in ?, [prob. in Camillus, Onondaga County, New York] (Source: Census NY 1880, Onondaga Town,Onondaga Co.; age = 5), and died in ?, [said to have moved to Portland, Oregon] (Source: Wilson, Marguerite L. Hanifan, 14 Sept 1994.). He was the son of Benjamin B. Hart and his first wife, Mary E. (_____). Lewis was of Wyoming at the time of his father's death in 1908, but my mother remembers being told that her Uncle Lewis lived in Portland, OR. Although your sister is divorced and remarried, do you suppose she might be able to help me get in touch with her ex-husband's family if there is a connection? Thank you, Diane Flynn diflynn@aol.com

I am searching for any information on the NOBLES or ROBB family living in Onondaga Co. around 1840. William H. H. NOBLES b. 23 Nov 1816 m. Mary Ann ROBB b. 1 April 1820. Their daughter, Mary Tressa was born 7 June 1842 in Syracuse. Anyone with connections to these families please contact me. Thanks. Verna Williams - VWILLI6432@aol.com

"In case you ever wondered why a large number of your ancestors disappeared during a certain period in history, this might help. Epidemics have always had a great influence on people - and thus influencing, as well, the genealogists trying to trace them. Many cases of people disappearing from records can be traced to dying during an epidemic or moving away from the affected area. Some of the major epidemics in the United States are listed below. 1657 Boston: Measles 1687 Boston: Measles 1690 New York: Yellow Fever 1713 Boston: Measles 1729 Boston: Measles 1732-33 Worldwide: Influenza 1738 South Carolina: Smallpox 1739-40 Boston: Measles 1747 Conn, NY, PA & SC: Measles 1759 North America (areas inhabited by white people): Measles 1761 North America & West Indies: Influenza 1772 North America: Measles 1775 North America (especially hard in New England): Epidemic (unknown) 1775-76 Worldwide: Influenza (one of worst flu epidemics) 1788 Philadelphia & NY: Measles 1793 Vermont: Influenza and a "putrid fever" 1793 Virginia: Influenza (killed 500 people in 5 counties in 4 weeks) 1793 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever (one of worst) 1783* Delaware (Dover) "extremely fatal" bilious disorder 1793 Pennsylvania (Harrisburg & Middletown) many unexplained deaths 1794 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever 1796-97 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever 1798 Philadelphia: Yellow Fever (one of worst) 1803 New York: Yellow Fever 1820-23 Nationwide: "fever" (starts on Schuylkill River, PA & spreads) 1831-32 Nationwide: Asiatic Cholera (brought by English emigrants) 1832 New York & other major cities: Cholera 1837 Philadelphia: Typhus 1841 Nationwide: Yellow Fever (especially severe in South) 1847 New Orleans: Yellow Fever 1847-48 Worldwide: Influenza 1848-49 North America: Cholera 1850 Nationwide: Yellow Fever 1850-51 North America: Influenza 1852 Nationwide: Yellow Fever (New Orleans 8,000 die in summer) 1855 Nationwide (many parts) Yellow Fever 1857-59 Worldwide: Influenza (one of disease's greatest epidemics) 1860-61 Pennsylvania: Smallpox 1865-73 Philadelphia, NY, Boston, New Orleans, Baltimore, Memphis & Washington DC: A series of recurring epidemics of Smallpox, Cholera, Typhus, Typhoid, Scarlet Fever & Yellow Fever 1873-75 North America & Europe: Influenza 1878 New Orleans: Yellow Fever (last great epidemic of disease) 1885 Plymouth, PA: Typhoid 1886 Jacksonville, FL: Yellow Fever 1918 Worldwide: Influenza (high point year) More people hospitalized in World War I from Influenza than wounds. US Army training camps became death camps - with 80% death rate in some camps "Finally, these specific instances of cholera were mentioned: 1833 Columbus, OH; 1834 New York City; 1849 New York; 1851 Coles Co, IL; 1851 The Great Plains; 1851 Missouri." Information taken from: Sept-Oct, 1997, Newsletter - Genealogical Society of Santa Cruz County "Source: Ancestors West, SSBCGS, Vol 20, No l, Fall 1993, South Bend (IN) Area Genealogical Society via Julie Burnett, Sue in Arizona and Judy Nordgren SMCAGS >>

I am so happy to have found this site. My 3rd grt grdfather, Marquis D. MILLER was born in Clinton County, NY on the shores of Lake Champlain, 23Aug, 1810. The family moved soon after, (approximately 1814) to Onondago County. Marquis worked as a raftsman on the Erie Canal as a teenager, but his father was a cooper and a farmer. It has been suggested that the father may have been a seulter. Marquis, (Marcus, as he later called himself) lived in the Syracuse area until manhood, then left his family behind, and walked to Fulton County, IL, where he married and raised a family. Marquis's son, Lafayette MILLER, wrote an article about his father, saying that he voted for Andrew Jackson, and saw the first railroad built in the US. There is a deed on the orig. sheepskin, made out to Marquis D. MILLER, and signed by then president , Martin Van Buren. I wish to know who his parents were? Where are they buried? Were they Jewish, as the Clinton County historian believes? Who were his siblings? I have so much information for someone out there who may be connected. Please respond.....Marquis's first born was named George, then William Henry (my 2nd grt grdfather), Oliver F., Lafayette, Daniel W., Daniel W., and Mary Ann and Sarah Ellen MILLER. If anyone has any information, no matter how trivial, pls e-mail me. This is my life's work. Thank you so very much for ANY help you can give me.....Regards, Judy Goodwin Orlando, FL

SMITH. Peter Jeremiah SMITH was b. 1820 in New Jersey (US Census) and d. 1879 at Lockport, NY. He served as a corporal (1864) in the NY Vol. Inf., Civil War. Peter m. Roxania (6) E. NEEDHAM (Jeremiah 5-3, Anthony 2-1) after the war. Was he previously married? Who were his parents? What brought him to Niagara Co., NY and when? Any suggestions on how to identify his origins? Thanks in advance. \\!// (0 0) |--------o000--(_)--000o--------| Genealogist researching: GAULIN(GOLIN, GOLER)(anywhere), LACASSE(CASSE) (PQ),and DUBE(PQ);NEEDHAM(MA,NY),GLYNN(MA,VT,NY),SMITH(NJ, NY) and the descendants of Major John MASON of Norwich, CT. Also DeGLOPPER (NY,Hol),GUTH(NY,Ger), BARNES(CT,PA,NY),STEINBACH(NY,Ger),SIEBERT (NY,Ger), and the descendants of Wilhelm CONRAD, The Hessian(Ger,PA,NY).

GLYNN. Seeking the parents of Willard GLYNN, b. 1806 VT and d. 1885 Lockport, NY. His father was b. VT and his mother MA. Willard was m. ca. 1832 to Sarah E. __________ (her father b. NY; mother b. MA), who was b. 1805/06 Otsego Co., NY and d. 1889 Lockport. Their first child, Eliza, was b. 1833/34 , prob. at Elbridge, Onondaga Co., NY. All of these data came from the NY State Census 1855, 1865, and 1875. I have photocopied every GLYNN listing in the VT Vital Records Office near Montpiler, but no Willard! The VT GLYNNs came from only a few towns, Dorset and Springfield, which I visited, but again no Willard! Any clues, hints, suggestions, or copies of Willard's parents birth records would be appreciated. You are welcome to what data I currently have. I'd enjoy hearing from other GLYNNs. \\!// (0 0) |--------o000--(_)--000o--------| Genealogist researching: GAULIN(GOLIN, GOLER)(anywhere), LACASSE(CASSE) (PQ),and DUBE(PQ);NEEDHAM(MA,NY),GLYNN(MA,VT,NY),SMITH(NJ, NY) and the descendants of Major John MASON of Norwich, CT. Also DeGLOPPER (NY,Hol),GUTH(NY,Ger), BARNES(CT,PA,NY),STEINBACH(NY,Ger),SIEBERT (NY,Ger), and the descendants of Wilhelm CONRAD, The Hessian(Ger,PA,NY).

In a message dated 98-03-25 11:55:02 EST, I wrote: << Subj: Re: Kirkville Cemetery Date: 98-03-25 11:55:02 EST From: DI Flynn To: kcary@oac.ohio.gov If all else fails, write to the Town Clerk of Manlius. Sometimes the Town Clerk is the one responsible for the (non >> [then something happened and the message was sent unfinished; here's the rest of it:] -church-affiliated cemeteries. The address for the Town Clerk, Town of Manlius is: Manlius Town Clerk's Ofc, 301 Brooklea Dr, Fayetteville, NY 13066- 315-637-3521 I wrote to the Town Clerk of the Town of Camillus for information about Maplewood Cemetery and my relatives that were buried there. I was very pleased by the prompt response. Hope this helps. Diane

CONTACT SUE GOODFELLOW...THE MANLIUS HISTORICAL SOCIETY!!! I HOPE THIS HELPS!!!! Jo Dee FRASCO <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyononda/CEMETERY/MAN-CEMS.HTM">TOWN OF MANLIUS CEMETERIES</A> Town of Manlius Cemeteries Onondaga County, NY Submitted by Sue Goodfellow of The Manlius Historical Society Lot 34 Old St. Mary's Cemetery, North Minoa, southwest corner Schepp's Corners Rd. and Kirkville Rd. burials from about 1830 to 1880. Original church was on the southeast corner. Lot 35 New St. Mary's Cemetery, Minoa, first burial June 26, 1867 Lot 35 New Village Cemetery, Minoa, operated by Minoa Methodist Church. Records are with Mark Hauser, 503 Ferndale Lane, Minoa. (315) 656-3865. Lot 35 Shoemaker Cemetery, Minoa Lot 35 Karker Family Cemetery, Northeast of Minoa Lot 38-9 Near Pools Brook School, bodies taken up in 1847 . West side of Pools Brook Road, south of Andrus Road.  Site used for school house about 1880. Lot 44 Chase Family Cemetery Lot 45 Manlius Center Cemetery, northwest of village, south side of Rt. 290, east of Burdick Street Lot 45 Clements Family Cemetery, 1/2 mile north of Manlius Center Cemetery. Gravestones obliterated 1962. It is believed that this was the family cemetery of S. Clement who owned the property. Lot 48 Huntley Farm Cemetery, north of Hartsville Lot 48 Kirkville Cemetery Lot 59 Hartsville Cemetery, Mycenae North of Route 5, quarter of a mile west of Onondaga-Madison county line.  Stones tumbled in and unreadable in 1960. Lot 75 Kinne Cemetery, Route #5, Fayetteville Lot 85 Highbridge Cemetery, No longer in existence. East side of Limestone Creek, near Route 92 and the suplur springs. Lot 88 South Eagle Village Cemetery (no listing on file) Lot 88 Eagle Village Cemetery, 8475 Seneca Turnpike Lot 59 Mycenae Cemetery, Rt. #5 and Gulf Rd. Lot 75 Fayetteville Village Cemetery, south Manlius Street Lot 66 Immaculate Conception Cemetery, Rt. #5 east of Kinne Cemetery (315) 637-9846 Lot 77 Breed Cemetery, now known as Dry Hill Cemetery. Salt Springs & Duguid Roads Lot 87 Manlius Village Cemetery, East Seneca Street Lot 87, Manlius Village Cremation Garden, East side of Military Drive Lot 87 Christ Church Cemetery, behind the Manlius Village Cemetery Lot 16 North Manlius Cemetery (Madison Co.) will remove from list. Lot 53, St. Michael's Orthodox Cemetery, Bowman Road, Fremont. Founded in 1941 as St. Michael's Carpatho Russian Orthodox Cemetery. Operated by St. Michael's Orthodox Church, P.O. Box 125, Syracuse. Father John Chupeck, 133 Stolp Ave., Syracuse 13207 had records. (315) 474-7049 (because of the newness of this cemetery, we will not be furnishing a list at this time). UPDATED 30 March 1997

For those of you asking for Kirkville Cemetery...I found it.... <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyononda/CEMETERY/KIRKVILL.TXT">KIRKVILL.TXT at www.rootsweb.com</A> No info given on how to find info....I would inquire through Cyndi's list...she may have a connection to give you! Jo Dee Frasco

When I was 6yrs old I spent the summer with my Sister and Brother-in-law in Kirkville. He was the minister at the church. Down the street was a cemetary we used to ride our bikes through and scare each other about. It had some very old headstones. I'll contact my sister and see if she knows where to go for the records. It was about 40yrs ago so keep your fingers crossed.

> Diane wrote > PERSI is the PERiodical Source Index. The Allen Co. Public Library in Indiana > has just about every genealogical periodical ever published. They make copies > for a nominal fee and send them to you, along with a bill. You can send up to > six requests per letter. Diane, I didn't know you could request from the Allen Co library directly. This is great news, and good to know. Many thanks Barbara Fairbanks, Alaska

Hi! Granby is in Oswego County, NY. Here's a great website from the U.S. Geological Survey that helps determine where all these places are or were: http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html Hope this helps. Diane

In a message dated 98-03-25 20:50:54 EST, sandal@superior.net wrote: << I am asking for advice on how to word a request to the Diocese for the records. To whom's attention should I address the letter? What details should I include? What areas should I avoid? Has anyone had any experiences with the Syracuse Catholic Diocese? >> Last September, I wrote to the Catholic Diocese of Syracuse Archives asking for records of my HANIFAN family. Within two weeks, I received a lovely handwritten letter from a volunteer telling me where I might find additional records, along with photocopies of records: one baptism and one marriage. In reply, I sent a donation to help support the maintenance of the archival records. Simply write a polite letter stating what you want (which is basically what you did in your e-mail to the NYONONDA-list), to: Carl H. Roesch Diocesan Archivist Catholic Diocese of Syracuse Archives PO Box 511 Syracuse, New York 13201-0511 The phone number is (315) 470-1493; the street address is 240 East Onondaga Street, Syracuse. Call ahead to make arrangements if you are planning a visit -- they are not open to the public all of the time. Hope this helps, Diane

In a message dated 98-03-25 17:52:39 EST, you write: << What about the people living outside the State of NY? I would love to get my hands on those periodicals! Searching for the elusive WHEELER family of Onondaga Co. between the years of 1830 through 1870. >> Try Ancestry, Inc.'s PERSI Database. http://www.ancestry.com Ancestry's databases number over 300 which I can search any time I want (it costs me only $4.95 per month because I subscribed for a year -- and this amount also includes Ancestry Magazine and Genealogical Computing) After you find the articles you want in PERSI, you order from the Allen Co. Public Library. PERSI is the PERiodical Source Index. The Allen Co. Public Library in Indiana has just about every genealogical periodical ever published. They make copies for a nominal fee and send them to you, along with a bill. You can send up to six requests per letter. Hope this helps. Diane

Ganby is Oswego County, NY. See also city of Fulton, NY. Fulton is partially in town of Granby & part in the town of Volney. Towns in NY state are like townships in most other states. Dick Fox

Has anyone had any dealings regarding adoption records kept by the Syracuse Catholic Diocese? This is my situation: My grandfather, (deceased since 1982), was adopted in the early 1900's. (He was an only child and his parents are also deceased) My mother and uncle, the only living children, are supportive of this search. The family has been in possession of the court records since before my grandfather's death but there is no mention of his birth parents. He was 1 year and 3 months old before he was placed for adoption at the St. Mary's Maternity Hospital and Infant Asylum. Rumor has it that it was a "family adoption", that the birth mother was the sister of his adopted mother and the birth father may have been the adoptive father. We were told by Catholic Family Charities, which is located in the building which used to be St. Mary's Maternity Hospital and Infant Asylum, that the records might be downtown at the Diocese. I am asking for advice on how to word a request to the Diocese for the records. To whom's attention should I address the letter? What details should I include? What areas should I avoid? Has anyone had any experiences with the Syracuse Catholic Diocese? Does any have any other suggestions on how to obtain the birth parents names? Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated. Sandy

Hello, Looking for the ancestors of Anna LAWRENCE, born 1808 in MA. She married Noyes W. PALMER, born July 9, 1806 in Springfield, NY. Noyes was the son of Nathaniel PALMER and Elizabeth LOTT of Euclid, NY. Noyes and Anna settled in the Town of Hannibal, NY in the Rhoades Corners area. Noyes is a descendant of Walter PALMER of Stonington, CT (Nathaniel, Gideon, Zebulon, George, Gershom, Walter). John Bogdal

Searching for the ancestors of Emily DOLPH, born 1835. She married George W. PALMER of Hannibal, NY on March 19, 1854. George was born 1831 in Clay, NY, the son of Noyes W. PALMER and Anna LAWRENCE, and died February 25, 1909 in Hannibal, NY. George is a descendant of Walter Palmer of Stonington, CT (Noyes W., Nathaniel, Gideon, Zebulon, George, Gershom, Walter). John Bogdal

Hello, Is Granby NY in Onondaga County? I am looking for any information on the CLEVELAND family that lived in Granby in the early 1800's. I have an Alice A. CLEVELAND, born April 10, 1829 in Granby, NY, that I am trying to find the ancestors of. She married John EATON, Jr., on January 27, 1850, Kinney 4 Corners, NY. John Bogdal

Hello, Is Granby, NY in Onondage County? I am looking for any information on the CLEVELAND family that live in Granby in the early 1800's. I have an Alice A. CLEVELAND, born April 10, 1829 in Granby, NY, that I am trying to find the ancestors of. She married John EATON, Jr., on January 27, 1850, Kinney 4 Corners, NY. John Bogdal