Dear Alan, Thank you for your generous offer to do lookups on Early Records of the Valley Presb. Ch in Syracuse! I would be very grateful if you would look up the following: Eliza BARNES Wareham BARNES George EDICK Roxy (Leach) FAIRMAN Ebenezer LEACH Loranna (or Lowrance) LEACH Charles (or Clozen)SPENCER Milton SPENCER Stephen SPENCER Sylvester SPENCER In fact I would be most interested in any SPENCER that you may find if not too much trouble. If I have asked for too many lookups, I understand if you have time constraints, the SPENCER line is my priority. Thanks a million, Larose A. Wynne shelby@netten.net At 07:27 AM 4/1/98 +0100, Alan Hatch wrote: >Dorrie, Brian and fellow researchers, >I find this just amazing! I had ordered the microfilm from the FHL exactly just for the Early Records of the Valley Presbyterian Church in Syracuse, NY. On March 20, 1810 it was organized as the United Church of Onondaga Hollow and Salina, NY 1821 Second Presbyterian Church Onondaga, NY. Copied by Minnie L. C. Coleman, Syracuse, NY 1930. On the second page is states," This historic church burned in 1922. The records were saved and deposited with the Onondaga Historical Association. > I just was able to go in and view it last night. I thought I'd just copy the records that were on there just in case I might need them later. There are 31 pages with an index. I wasn't sure if it was okay to post them on this site or not. Someone let me know what they think. (I'm not doing this for profit, just for help.) I anyone would like for me too look up any information for them please e-mail with your information at ahatch@theriver.com >Barbara H > > >

John Aloysius Buckley--1855, Syracuse, New York I'm sorry , since I am new to the list I didn't realize at first that I needed to repeat my email address...so I'll start all over. I am looking for any information on John Aloysius Buckley, who was born in Syracuse in 1855 or 54. His parents I believe came from Ireland. He moved to Rock Island Illinois in 1977 or 78 when he was 23. Since I am in Cincinnati, Ohio I am unable to check local records. If some one could give me the person to contact and where to write for the information I am searching I would greatly appreciate it. Jeanette Fisher fish8719@idt.net

I am looking for a Catholic Church a Dioceses who has records of all the churches for names who were altar boys around the 1900 for Syracuse Bev

Re: Sulters and the family of Marquis D. MILLER I'm sorry, I forgot to list my email address.....it's Satie1037@aol.com I live in Florida and would appreciate any information I can get. Thanks again, Judy Goodwin Winter Park, FL

Hello, All, Does anyone know anything about the "sulters" or "seulters"? They were people who followed the military and sold supplies to them....? I was told that my MILLER family, (orig. England, Canada, Clinton County, and then the Syracuse area), were Sulters. They arrived in Onondaga County around 1814, which coincides with the battle of Plattsburgh. I believe the father's name was Charles, Thomas, John or Eleazer MILLER. The family also farmed and were coopers. There are lots of MILLERs buried in the "Town of Onondaga Cemetery", which I found recently, but I don't know if they are my relatives. My 3rd grt grndfather, Marquis D. MILLER, lived in Onondaga County until he was approximately 25 years old. I still haven't found his name anywhere in any records....so, I'm not even positive of the city, but someone out there may know about "sulters" and have seen this unusual first name somewhere. After he settled in Fulton County, IL, he went by M.D. MILLER or sometimes Marcus MILLER. I have documented information dating from 1837 until he died in 1889. But almost nothing on the years spent in Onondaga County. (I do know that he worked as a raftsman on the Erie Canal as a teenager). Thanks for any help that you can offer......Regards, Judy Goodwin Winter Park, FL

Does anybody out there have knowledge of a WALKER family, from Spafford, Onondaga Co., NY. My gggrandfather was Justus WALKER, b. January 26, 1819. Family written record says Stafford, Onondaga Co., NY, but there being no Stafford, I assumed Spafford to be the place. His father's name was Josiah L. Walker , b. 11-3-1789, and his mother was Eunice Wiswell, b. March, 1793. Don't know much else. Kind of a shot in the dark I guess. Thanx. Suze

Dorrie, Brian and fellow researchers, I find this just amazing! I had ordered the microfilm from the FHL exactly just for the Early Records of the Valley Presbyterian Church in Syracuse, NY. On March 20, 1810 it was organized as the United Church of Onondaga Hollow and Salina, NY 1821 Second Presbyterian Church Onondaga, NY. Copied by Minnie L. C. Coleman, Syracuse, NY 1930. On the second page is states," This historic church burned in 1922. The records were saved and deposited with the Onondaga Historical Association. I just was able to go in and view it last night. I thought I'd just copy the records that were on there just in case I might need them later. There are 31 pages with an index. I wasn't sure if it was okay to post them on this site or not. Someone let me know what they think. (I'm not doing this for profit, just for help.) I anyone would like for me too look up any information for them please e-mail with your information at ahatch@theriver.com Barbara H

If you mean the Onondaga Valley Presbyterian Church at 275 W Seneca Tnpk, Syracuse, NY 13207, the answer is yes it exists. My family were members when I was a child. The bad news is that the church burned down in the early 1900s. It has been re-built, but I suppose the records may have been lost. Their phone number is (315) 469-0946. A lot of their members are probably buried in the Valley Cemetery. Brian Madigan Syracuse, NY MadiganB@nimo.com NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com on 03/31/98 12:16:13 PM To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com cc: (bcc: Brian Madigan) Subject: Valley Presbyterian Church Does the Valley Presbyterian Church still exist? Where is/was it? What year do its records start? Where would I find the records? Dorrie in Mass.

In a message dated 98-03-31 12:28:02 EST, ZPQM64A@prodigy.com writes: << Subj: Valley Presbyterian Church Date: 98-03-31 12:28:02 EST From: ZPQM64A@prodigy.com (MS DORRIE P TRAFICANTE) To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com Does the Valley Presbyterian Church still exist? Where is/was it? What year do its records start? Where would I find the records? Dorrie in Mass. >> I couldn't find a Valley Presbyterian Church in Onondaga County, Dorrie, but here's what I did find: Onondaga Hill Presbyterian Church, 4797 Makyes Rd, Syracuse, NY 13 315-492-2692 Onondaga Valley Cemetery As, 2500 Valley Dr, Nedrow, NY 13120-9701 315-469-5055 Onondaga Valley Presbyteria, 275 W Seneca Tpke, Syracuse, NY 13207 315-469-0946 I hope this helps. Diane

In a message dated 98-03-31 19:55:54 EST, Persis4 writes: << Subj: Re: Nettleton Date: 98-03-31 19:55:54 EST From: Persis4 To: DI Flynn Diane, Do you have the address for the Onondaga Public Library? Maybe it has been given before, but if so I missed it. Thank you. Nancy (Persis4@aol.com) Searching for : BESSEY& MOON families. >> The address for the Onondaga Public Library: Local History and Genealogy Department 447 South Salina Street Syracuse, New York 13202-2494 Telephone: 315-435-1800 TDD: 315-435-1872 Fax: 315-435-8533 The librarians are no longer able to do research for you at the library (budget cuts have reduced the number of librarians tremendously), but they may be able to recommend someone who can do research for you. If you are fortunate enough to be able to visit the Local History and Genealogy Department in person, be sure to fill out cards for the Researchers' File (I took mine home, filled them out at my leisure with all my Onondaga County surnames, pasted a reduced photocopy of an outline descendancy report on the back of each card which included all of the vital record-type info that I knew, and mailed them back a few months later.) Through those cards, I have made contact with one of my cousins and have been contacted by others. There is an Onondaga Historical Society down the street from the library with additional resources -- but I was so busy between the library and the County Vital Records that I never had a chance to go there. Have any of you had any experience with the Historical Society? Hope this helps, Diane

Does the Valley Presbyterian Church still exist? Where is/was it? What year do its records start? Where would I find the records? Dorrie in Mass.

I neglected to share some very vital information in my first posting regarding this family: dates! William Nettleton and Esther were in Pompey, NY by 1796 when their son Ozias was born. They may have married in NY or perhaps elsewhere. William d. in 1834; Ester d. 1831; both died at Manlius, NY. Their son Ozias and his wife Salley (KNOWLTON) were married in 1817 (place still unknown) and both died in 1842 at Manlius. They had 12 children, the last one born in 1834 and all were born at Manlius. These children then began the westward move, part II. Our line Charles Robert Nettleton was in Versailles IN by 1852, where he married and have 3 children and in Fremont MN by 1858. I have the applicable census for all the direct line families from 1800 to MN 1885 (Charles d. 1892 in MN). I had written to the county several years ago requesting a death certificate, but they said they did not have records for that time frame. DI, I appreciate your suggestions of the Church records (I didn't know about the church until I saw the cememtery site on the Web last week) and also the local history dept at the library. I have not tried them yet - great idea - thanks. Would still like to connect with someone researching this family. Linda

Linda, Since you didn't indicate the years that your NETTLETON family lived and died in Onondaga Co., the following information may not apply. 1) If the Christ Church is still active, there will be burial records which may reveal other information about your family. Churches appreciate a donation in return for providing information. Cemetery records for non- church-affiliated cemeteries are usually kept in the town clerk's office. A polite letter of request, giving as much pertinent data as was known, including a self-addressed,stamped envelope (SASE), brought me pages of burial records with lots of data from the town clerk of Camillus. There was no charge. I have the addresses of most of the town clerks in Onondaga County (actually, just about any town clerk anywhere in the U.S., now that I think of it). 2) Depending upon the years you are researching, purchase of a death certificate from the county of Onondaga can reveal other information about your family member such as names of parents, birthplace, birthdate, etc. ($10.00 for the search -- but give at least the year of the event -- and $1.00 for a copy); The date and place of death information on the death certificate is considered to be primary documentation. Other data, such as parents' names, date of birth, etc., is considered to be secondary evidence because it is given by an informant or family member who may have been not very well- informed. 3) Depending upon the years you are researching, NY had a state census that revealed a great deal of detail in 1855, 1865 and 1875 -- your local family history center can get the microfilms for you. These state censuses have no indexes that I am aware of, so it is necessary that you know at least the town where your relatives lived -- then you do a line-by-line search of that town. 4) The Federal Censuses, beginning with 1850, have much individual information about those who were enumerated. The Federal Census is available for research only up to 1920 because of privacy laws. There is a Soundex (type of index) available for 1920. There is no Soundex for 1910, so line-by- line searches of the towns are usually necessary. In the case of Syracuse, I was lucky enough to obtain a listing of the enumeration district lines which I then drew on a Polk map and had enlarged. At least one Onondaga Co. researcher has been able to find her family using that map -- but I haven't had an opportunity to use it yet, myself! 5) In the case of Syracuse, there are directories which list the inhabitants both alphabetically and in street order. Sometimes the city directory reveals important information, such as: "John Hanifan died January 24," or, "Abby Pearl Dodge married Robert McMullen and removed to (city)." If you know the address where your family lived at the time of an unindexed census, it helps narrow down the number of lines searched in line-by-line searches. 6) The people in the Local History and Genealogy department at the Onondaga Public Library are simply super. I spent a week there last May and later wrote a letter to say that, of all the libraries where I have done research, their service, helpfulness and resources were the best! I hope some of this helps. Diane

Would anyone be related to the WHEELER families who resided in Fabius, Onondago Co. NY in the 1830's. My G/G Grandfather who went by the name of FELT WHEELER lived there during the 1830 census. I have often wondered if the number of Wheeler families listed in Fabius were all related. Would be interested in exchanging information if interested. Esther

Brian; I was the one who wrote the message in reference to the elusive WHEELER's in my line, and I sent it to the list like I just did right now. My e-mail address was included, but I did not include a signature. Since I live outside NY, I thought it might be a benifit to me or others, to address Bill Kicker (WKICKER@aol.com)who wrote the original message and maybe get an address to the Onondaga County Library so that us out-of-staters could check on it too. If you would like to send me a message privately, my e-mail address is wmfrye@ssi.parlorcity.com Esther At 12:02 AM 3/31/98 -0800, you wrote: >______________________________X-Message: #3 >Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:20:18 -0500 >From: madiganb@nimo.com >To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <852565D7.005F21B2.00@mail.nimo.com> >Subject: Re: ONONDAGA CO. PUBLIC LIBRARY >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Please include your email addresses with your signature. >I don't want to bother the whole list with a response to one person. > >Brian Madigan >MadiganB@nimo.com > > > > > >NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com on 03/25/98 05:33:37 PM > >To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com >cc: (bcc: Brian Madigan) >Subject: Re: ONONDAGA CO. PUBLIC LIBRARY > > > > >Bill; >What about the people living outside the State of NY? I would love to get >my hands on those periodicals! Searching for the elusive WHEELER family of >Onondaga Co. between the years of 1830 through 1870. >Best Regards, >Esther > > > >At 05:22 AM 3/25/98 -0800, you wrote: >>______________________________X-Message: #5 >>Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:58:34 EST >>From: WKICKER <WKICKER@aol.com> >>To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com >>Message-ID: <4670641b.3511cd4c@aol.com> >>Subject: Re: NYONONDA-D Digest V98 #35 >>Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >> >>Message # 3 >> Bev, >> The best way to out old addresses is in the >>periodicals at the Onondaga County Public Library. >> I found all my family that way . >> You won't regret it. >> Bill >> > >______________________________X-Message: #6 >Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:44:09 -0600 >From: "Kelly Townsend" <k.townsend@worldnet.att.net> >To: <madiganb@nimo.com>, <NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <19980331024618.AAA9809@oemcomputer> >Subject: Re: ONONDAGA CO. PUBLIC LIBRARY >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi Brian, > If your mail program has it, you can click on reply to author, and it >sends it only to the author. If you click on reply to all, it goes to >everyone on the list. > >Kelly >k.townsend@worldnet.att.net > >> >> >> >> At 05:22 AM 3/25/98 -0800, you wrote: >> >______________________________X-Message: #5 >> >Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:58:34 EST >> >From: WKICKER <WKICKER@aol.com> >> >To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com >> >Message-ID: <4670641b.3511cd4c@aol.com> >> >Subject: Re: NYONONDA-D Digest V98 #35 >> >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >> > >> >Message # 3 >> > Bev, >> > The best way to out old addresses is in the >> >periodicals at the Onondaga County Public Library. >> > I found all my family that way . >> > You won't regret it. >> > Bill >> > >> >> >> >> >

I am seeking infomation on William Nettleton. I know he and his wife Esther are buried at Christ Church Cemetery at Manlius and that he had at least two children: William and Ozias (my line). I do not know who his parents are, where he was born, his wife's last name, or her parents. Ozias and his wife Sally are also buried at Manlius. Thnks to the cemetery records copied by Nancy Scheffhauer in 1993 and placed on the web, I just found where he and many of his family are buried. But I have not been able to make any further connections. Hopefully there are some fellow researchers on this line. Linda llgreethurst@worldnet.att.net

Hi Brian, If your mail program has it, you can click on reply to author, and it sends it only to the author. If you click on reply to all, it goes to everyone on the list. Kelly k.townsend@worldnet.att.net ---------- > From: madiganb@nimo.com > To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: ONONDAGA CO. PUBLIC LIBRARY > Date: Monday, March 30, 1998 11:20 AM > > Please include your email addresses with your signature. > I don't want to bother the whole list with a response to one person. > > Brian Madigan > MadiganB@nimo.com > > > > > > NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com on 03/25/98 05:33:37 PM > > To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com > cc: (bcc: Brian Madigan) > Subject: Re: ONONDAGA CO. PUBLIC LIBRARY > > > > > Bill; > What about the people living outside the State of NY? I would love to get > my hands on those periodicals! Searching for the elusive WHEELER family of > Onondaga Co. between the years of 1830 through 1870. > Best Regards, > Esther > > > > At 05:22 AM 3/25/98 -0800, you wrote: > >______________________________X-Message: #5 > >Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:58:34 EST > >From: WKICKER <WKICKER@aol.com> > >To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com > >Message-ID: <4670641b.3511cd4c@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: NYONONDA-D Digest V98 #35 > >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > > >Message # 3 > > Bev, > > The best way to out old addresses is in the > >periodicals at the Onondaga County Public Library. > > I found all my family that way . > > You won't regret it. > > Bill > > > > > >

I am new to the list and I am researching family..one name I know is John Aloyosis Buckley who was born in Syracuse in 1855(54).He later moved to Rock Island Illinois when he was in his early twentys and married there. I know his parents came from Ireland. Jeanette Fisher, Cincinnati, Ohio

Hi All! I was wondering if some kind soul out there could guide me as to how to get info on a few families buried in Lakeview Cemetary, Skaneateles. Am looking for the surnames of MASAREK, NEMEC, and BOOR. Does anyone out there have access to these records and do lookups? Would appreciate any response. Sarah Emmerson Westminster, CA REBrewer@deltanet.com

Please include your email addresses with your signature. I don't want to bother the whole list with a response to one person. Brian Madigan MadiganB@nimo.com NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com on 03/25/98 05:33:37 PM To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com cc: (bcc: Brian Madigan) Subject: Re: ONONDAGA CO. PUBLIC LIBRARY Bill; What about the people living outside the State of NY? I would love to get my hands on those periodicals! Searching for the elusive WHEELER family of Onondaga Co. between the years of 1830 through 1870. Best Regards, Esther At 05:22 AM 3/25/98 -0800, you wrote: >______________________________X-Message: #5 >Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:58:34 EST >From: WKICKER <WKICKER@aol.com> >To: NYONONDA-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <4670641b.3511cd4c@aol.com> >Subject: Re: NYONONDA-D Digest V98 #35 >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > >Message # 3 > Bev, > The best way to out old addresses is in the >periodicals at the Onondaga County Public Library. > I found all my family that way . > You won't regret it. > Bill >