Under the list of cemeteries on the Onondaga site of USGenWeb is an offer by Kathy Crowell to do lookups in a book for St. Mary's Cemetery in Baldwinsville. When I tried to respond to the address included, the message bounced back as no such mailbox. Does anyone have a current address for her?

Hi List, Has anyone gone to the archives and give any advice on the best way to use them to order certificates? I'm going to the general area with a friend soon and wondered if it would be worth while going there. We will be on a limited time frame. Thanks, Gretchen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

I just had to share this with you..... The Oswego Palladium Times, Thursday, August 16, 1928,..... PET CANARY, 16 YEARS OLD, DEAD A bird, upwards of 16 years old, died yesterday. It was "Dicky" the pet canary of the family of Mr. and Mrs. Paul Kelly, East Sixth Street. Mr. Kelly, who is a custodian of the County clerk's building, has had the bird for more than thirteen years and it was about three years old when he got the warbler. Monte Lass, present chief of the fire department, was the original owner of "Dicky." For many years, in fact up to two years ago, the bird was a singer, but old age brought silence to his golden throat, and thereafter he could only peep and chatter after the fashion of ordinary members of the feathered tribe. In the latter days of his life "Dicky" showed all the symptoms of senility, even to baldness and crippled feet. He was unable to hop onto his perch, and was satisfied to slump down on the floor of the cage. Yesterday he weakened and died; excessive heat is believed to have hastened his end. "Dicky" was a neighborhood pet and his advanced age was regarded as most unusual. .......My condolences to "Dicky's" family past & present....Anne Ruggeri

In a message dated 11/7/2003 8:47:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I have WARD TOMPKINS in 159th regiment Militia Hecox's division for > War > 1812 . Is anyone on the list familiar with that Militia group . I have no > idea where to look . NARA has NO pension records for my TOMPKINS . Only > have > above info off of duty list . Is anyone a descendant ? > Sheri I believe that the Militia was a STATE organization. Therefore, you should be looking at STATE resources instead the National Archives, which is a FEDERAL records depository. Try the NY State Archives, for instance. Diane Wilson Flynn

I have WARD TOMPKINS in 159th regiment Militia Hecox's division for War 1812 . Is anyone on the list familiar with that Militia group . I have no idea where to look . NARA has NO pension records for my TOMPKINS . Only have above info off of duty list . Is anyone a descendant ? sheri

Once Again the Loomis Gang Comes to Fabius! The Fabius Historical Society will present to the Community a documentary produced by Anderson Productions about CNY's most famous outlaws.... the Loomis Gand, Monday Dec.1st at the Fabius Area Community Center 7:30 PM hosted by Darothy "Loomis" DeAngelo. And you better leave your valuables at home. Please bring a plate of cookies to share. This will also be election of officer night for FHS. posted by Bill Casey Bill Casey, President Fabius Historical Society PO Box 36 Apulia Station, NY 13020 [email protected] 315 683-5674 http://www.fabiusny.org http://www.organicmilk.org/

Could anyone please tell me, what "book" would this Vol. 1 Serial: 8234, be found? Where could I find the actual information on this Patriot??? I had tried NARA, but I don't have any information as to what unit he served with, so is there another source? What is this book reference that was passed onto me? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dianne Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots Name Cemetery Location Reference CANDEE, Caleb Jacks Hill Cem Oxford CT 23 Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, Vol.1, p. Serial: 8234; Volume: 2

You can use city directories to help nail down a specific date. Not sure if Lysander would have its own directory though. Diane Researching SWEENEY,CONNOR,BARRETT,DOLAN,..CROSSMOLINA PARISH, CO. MAYO. SWEENEY, CONNOR, BYRON in Syracuse NY ca 1880 - current. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Hickey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:05 PM Subject: [NYOnonda] Another Shea Question > Thanks to a response to a previous question, I have been able to determine > the parents of Mary Shea (1872-1905). In looking at census records I > found > that there is a likely uncle (John born about 1857-1861) and grandfather > (Timothy Shea born about 1820) living in Lysander. I would like to > attempt > to reference their obituaries, but I cannot find the dates of death of > these > and her father Jerimiah/Jerry (born Jan 1845). > > I searched all of the on-line cemetery listings on USGenWeb without > success. > Does anyone have a reference that covers cemeteries not detailed there (or > any other source that would help). >

Thanks to a response to a previous question, I have been able to determine the parents of Mary Shea (1872-1905). In looking at census records I found that there is a likely uncle (John born about 1857-1861) and grandfather (Timothy Shea born about 1820) living in Lysander. I would like to attempt to reference their obituaries, but I cannot find the dates of death of these and her father Jerimiah/Jerry (born Jan 1845). I searched all of the on-line cemetery listings on USGenWeb without success. Does anyone have a reference that covers cemeteries not detailed there (or any other source that would help).

Does anyone know where the records for the T. William O'Neill Funeral Home formerly of 1700 block of South Ave in Syracuse were transferred? The company was in business in 1963, but not located in 1979. They were in Syracuse many years. Thank you Anne

>From your neighbor, the NYMADISON LIST> Check out their spirit! making connections LIST to LIST. Share your knowledge and others' knowledge and help one another become more connections savy! Jim H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Ingalls" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Revolutionary land grants in Madison county > Bety Auten has 'The Ballotting Book" which contains the names of all the > Revolutionary War soldiers who received lots in the Military Tract. Betty > can be reached at: [email protected] > > Anita Ingalls > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Salyer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 8:19 PM > Subject: RE: [NYMADISO] Revolutionary land grants in Madison county > > > > Yes, I've been meaning to call Carol about this. However, I'm not sure > when > > to call. I'm sure she is busy. I'm aware of the map your talking about. > The > > Madison County Historical Society has a real good copy of it. It shows > > Joseph's son, Benjamin, owning his land and someone called Richard owning > > the rest of lot 55 (probably related to Derrick, but I haven't identified > > him yet). The John you mentioned is the same John I mentioned. He turn his > > lot 55 land over to his brother, Derrick, and moved south a couple of > > miles. There's quite a bit of info available about him, a little about > > Derrick, but almost nothing about Joseph (who I'm really interested in). I > > suspect John's descendents still live in the area but I don't know who > they > > are (they submitted an Adams family file a couple of years ago to the > > Madison County Historical Society). > > > > Greg > > > > > > At 05:35 PM 11/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >I found the Town of Sullivan Historian, Carol Greene @9065 North Rd. > > >Bridgeport, NY 13036 to be extremely helpful. (no e-mail though) She > sent > > >me a copy of a1853 map which shows "John Adams #47 our relatives were > John > > >Haywood lot #(?)43. I too would like to learn about the land grants. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Greg Salyer [mailto:[email protected]] > > >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:49 PM > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: [NYMADISO] Revolutionary land grants in Madison county > > > > > > > > >Elisha Adams was given lot 55 in Sullivan Township for his work during > the > > >Revolutionary War. The lot is about 2 miles south of Bridgeport. Elisha's > > >sons John and Derrick and my ancestor Joseph Adams settled on the land > > >around 1806. Elisha then sold part of the land to Joseph in 1815. The > > >record of that sale indicate the land was "granted by letter patent dated > > >the 22nd day of September 1813". I've been trying to find a record of the > > >original land grant. I have a few questions perhaps someone can answer. > Was > > >land in this part of the county given by New York State or the Federal > > >government? Was it normal for people to settle on the land several years > > >prior to an official grant? Does anyone know were I could find this > grant? > > >Thanks. > > > > > >Greg > > > > > > > > >==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > > >Search the list archives: > > >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > > >the name of the list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > > >Search the list archives: > > >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > > >the name of the list > > > > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > > Search the list archives: > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > > the name of the list > > > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search the list archives: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > the name of the list >

where was the column suppose to be? Did many people show up? What was the conference like? I am sad I missed it - it saddens my heart... not much in this world interests me - this did.... In the future will you please mention these types of events to the list? I lock forward to the information you send... Thanks for caring Lauren --Original From: Jim Hartigan [mailto:[email protected]] Sun Nov 2 2003 6:16 PM To: Lauren Rowe Subject: Re: [NYOnonda] Family History Conference Nov. 1, 2003 at th Church Of Jesus Christ LDS I think the lack of publicity had a lot to do with the loss of our genealogy column. Jim H ----- Original From: "Lauren Rowe" <[email protected]> To: "Jim Hartigan" <[email protected]>; <[email protected] Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:25 PM Subject: RE: [NYOnonda] Family History Conference Nov. 1, 2003 at the Church Of Jesus Christ LDS > Hello Jim: > What are you talking about?! I didn't know about a conference and I live in > Syracuse and I am a member of the CNYGS! > Guess I lost out - wonder why I saw no reportings of this conference... > I would have preferred to have read numerous e-mails about the conference than > all the e-mails about whether or not you were inappropriate in having your > relationship to CNYGS in your signature. > > This conference is what the list should have been discussing. I read all the > e-mails about Mr. Hartigans alleged inappropriateness in his continual > mentioning his associations with that group - (I guess in these trying times it > must be difficult for some to 'see' when someone is 'trying to help'(he is not > and was not inappropriate in his regular mentioning of his relationship to CNYGS > and his kind offerings to help people with their research....) >> Lauren Rowe > > --Original From: Jim Hartigan [mailto:[email protected]] Sun Nov 2 2003 11:05 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NYOnonda] Family History Conference Nov. 1, 2003 at the Church Of Jesus Christ LDS > I would like to express my gratitude to the organizers, sponsors and > presenters and classmates who helped to make the conference an example of things > to come for our Family History community. > A labor of love, well done! > Jim Hartigan Camillus, NY

----- Original Message ----- From: Diana Law To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 10:16 PM Subject: Genealogy Column Dear Stars Magazine: What has happened to our Genealogy Column? I have been looking each week thinking that I had missed it the week prior. It appears that you have dropped the column. As a board member of CNYGS, I must say that would be a real blow to all of the folks who are trying to do family research. We count on the book reviews, local notices of conferences and meetings and of course the queries. In fact, I answer some queries for our organization and very often, I refer folks to your column to submit queries, especially if they are out of our area. I realize that computers have changed the way genealogy is done BUT there are so many researchers who do not have or use computers. We need to serve them too. Genealogy is a very fast growing hobby. Is there any chance that this will be reconsidered? CNYGS meets this week-end and I fully expect this topic to arise. We usually have between 80 and 100 in attendance. Is there anything that we could tell them? Is there someone on the staff that we should directly approach as a group about this? I very much appreciate your attention in this matter. Regards - Diana J. Law, County Packets Coordinator - CNYGS

Hello Jim: What are you talking about?! I didn't know about a conference and I live in Syracuse and I am a member of the CNYGS! Guess I lost out - wonder why I saw no reportings of this conference... I would have preferred to have read numerous e-mails about the conference than all the e-mails about whether or not you were inappropriate in having your relationship to CNYGS in your signature. This conference is what the list should have been discussing. I read all the e-mails about Mr. Hartigans alleged inappropriateness in his continual mentioning his associations with that group - (I guess in these trying times it must be difficult for some to 'see' when someone is 'trying to help'(he is not and was not inappropriate in his regular mentioning of his relationship to CNYGS and his kind offerings to help people with their research....) Lauren Rowe --Original From: Jim Hartigan [mailto:[email protected]] Sunday, November 02, 2003 11:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOnonda] Family History Conference Nov. 1, 2003 at the Church Of Jesus Christ LDS I would like to express my gratitude to the organizers, sponsors and presenters and classmates who helped to make the conference an example of things to come for our Family History community. A labor of love, well done! Jim Hartigan Camillus, NY

Hi Listers I attempted to access the online Surrogate Court records but was unable to as I do not live in the US. I was wondering if someone would be able to check the records for the family I am researching. The family is Malcolm Montgomery(rey) and Anna Rosina Montgomery (nee Fleuti). They had four children John Malcolm, Susan, James and Malcolm. Any help would be appreciated. Regards Carolyn Chalmes Canberra Australia

Looking for documentation for a marriage between Urania Crandall and Felt Wheeler between the years of 1810-1815 in or around Petersburgh NY. Urania was the daughter of Jeremiah and Freelove (Keeney) Crandall. I found the date of marriage but forgot to write down the source. It was in a book of Reformed Church marriages. Any or all help would be appreciated. Thank you, Vi. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears

I would like to express my gratitude to the organizers, sponsors and presenters and classmates who helped to make the conference an example of things to come for our Family History community. A labor of love, well done! Jim Hartigan Camillus, NY

Rather than respond directly, the following I have discovered, sums up the way lists work. It's important that we keep open minds, get balanced viewpoints and be tolerant of others, if we are to become stronger as a genealogical community. If I or you help one to become stronger, then we all become stronger when he helps us. Jim H ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:53 AM Subject: [NYCAYUGA] CNYGS Lookups > Dear List, > As the List Administrator for the NYCayuga mailing list, I have been reading all the comments about the appropriateness of Mr. Hartigan's posts, and would like to share my thoughts and my reasons for not intervening to block him from posting to the list, and then request that, as Mr. Secaur has suggested, we lay this topic to rest and get on with the business of helping each other with our family research. > First, I do not see his offers to search for a local repository of Tree Talks for out-of-towners as a "commercial" enterprise. Rootsweb and the local Genweb sites have relied on "people helping people" since their inception, and this is a prime example of someone doing just that. Many people subscribe to a local mailing list as their first step in their search of a new region, and anyone who is willing to offer their assistance is an asset. The Central NY Genealogical Society may be an organization well known to most of us who live locally, but the person who lives in Oregon, has just discovered his connection to Central NY, and subscribed to the list for the first time, would no doubt deeply appreciate someone telling him about CNYGS. And offering to find out what library or Family History Center in his local area might have copies of Tree Talks for him to research in could be seen as a big help. > I realize that for those of us who are long-time list members, it can get annoying to see the same post time and again, but, as has been suggested, it is a simple matter to delete it if you recognize Mr. Hartigan's name and don't care to read his messages. Some of the newer subscribers may be seeing it for the first time and welcome the assistance. > My guess is that many people have no idea the volume of people who subscribe to the list, post their queries, wait to see if there is any response, and then unsubscribe within a relatively short time. As list manager, I get copies of all the subscribe/unsubscribe requests, and I can assure you that there are many many people who will be reading a message from Mr. Hartigan for the first time the next time that he responds to someone's query. I have had people do the same for me when I put out feelers as to how and where to proceed in researching a new area of the country, and I welcome every shred of assistance I can get. > As list administrator, as well as adminstrator for the Cayuga County Rootsweb BB, I have virtually hundreds of e-mails come across my computer for review each week. I know that Mr. Secaur will be helping people by looking up cemetery entries from online sources, saving someone the time of searching themselves. I know that Mr. Hecht will be posting messages about new pictures that he has scanned and added for us to enjoy. If the topics aren't of interest to me, I know that I can delete them quickly, but I certainly welcome their contributions, and know that some other list member will appreciate their efforts. > I apologize for this being a long-winded message, but I again, respectfully ask that we end this topic and get on with the much more pleasant task of searching for our twigs and branches. If anyone feels the need to pursue this issue further, please do it to me personally and let's keep the list free of personal disagreements and focused on the genealogy we all want to enjoy. > Regards,Kathleen DeckerNYCayuga List Administrator > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Acceptable Use Policy (AUP) RootsWeb.com Terms & Conditions "To all: MyFamily.com, Inc. reserves the right to remove any user provided content that comes to its attention and that it believes, in its sole discretion, is illegal, obscene, indecent, defamatory, incites racial or ethnic hatred or violates the rights of others." All listers should follow the guidelines set forth by Rootsweb. Please end this ongoing discussion about Mr. Hartigan. If someone feels that he (Mr. Hartigan) has violated the above perimeters then they should take it to the list administrator privately and permit them to do their job. The open criticism of Mr. Hartigan is inappropriate in this forum.

Dear Dianne, Why do the posts sometimes turn our with =20 at the end of each line? It makes the message very difficult to read. Thank you. Judy