Lauren, Even though a person may be disabled, there are still things to share with others as you have said. I normally work during the day, so I can't get to court houses, and my work day sometimes lasts late into the evening hours. That's why I chose cemetery photos: cemeteries don't close. <smile!> By the way, another good place for beginners to start is by using the USGenWeb/Rootsweb lists. You can start here and navigate to any state and just about any county and find information: http://www.usgenweb.com/ (That's how I found another of my ancestors buried in Wellington, Sumner Co., Kansas.) Shari Wisconsin, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren Rowe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: RE: [NYOnonda] [OHMEIGS] Genealogical Gify to List (typo ?) > As a disabled 52yr old woman I spend most of every day helping people on various > lists because it > interest's me and I imagine the help brings joy to the receiver. > Thanks for the descent reply and the URL (Uniform Resource locator) link - I > will go there... > I never would have guessed what RAOGK meant. Thanks for the explanation. > > Lauren > > --Orig- From: Karla VF Staudt [mailto:[email protected]] Friday, December 19, > 2003 9:03 AM > To: Lauren Rowe Re: [NYOnonda] [OHMEIGS] Genealogical Gify to List (typo ?) > Lauren, > RAOGK is "Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" - but you are right that not > everyone may know that. It generally means one of two things - one, that > when you are able that you jump into a query, etc. to help someone, without > being asked. Or, there are more ways, suggestions on www.raogk.org to do > things on a more organized basis, not necessarily for free. It is a > wonderful web site and I have used it and donated time on it. > Karla > > -- Original From: "Lauren Rowe" <[email protected]> To: > <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 7:51 AM RE: [NYOnonda] [OHMEIGS] Genealogical > Gify to List (typo ?) > > Hello - You suggested that 'we' use (?) RAOGK ... (( RAOGK -> pass it on > )) > But I have no idea what that stands for... > nor do I know where -->> Meigs county is... > > I suggest that when 'we' make the effort to give, 'we' give clearly... > Unlike Santa I am unable to travel the globe to 'know' where every place is and > what their acronyms are. > > I don't think 'this consideration' takes an extra mile just another minute or > so. I get frustrated when I have to type out everything - but it is for the > 'readers clear understanding that I do.... Sharing resources is a waste of time > and energy if readers don't understand where the various place names are located > and those unknown abbreviations slay me... > > Frustrated in New York > Thanks Lauren in Syracuse NY > > --Orig From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Thurs,December 18, > 2003 12:09 PM > To: [email protected] re [OHMEIGS] Genealogical Gify to List > Hi Connie > I thought of that also . I offered to do lookups -- on another list tht I > have resources for . I dont really have any for Meigs county yet . I also > do lookups for RAOGK under another e-mail name so as to keep better track of > requests . RAOGK is a great resource for those of us who are living on a > tight budget . " Give and it shall be given unto you " :) . I have really > been helped a lot by these great people who take the time to share a > resource with others . There are always going to be people who take advantage > of > others and give nothing in return . But the people at RAOGK are just really > going the extra mile to help each other find their roots . > I would like to suggest to anyone on A LIST that if you have purchased > resources -- census records - > cemetery records - deed records - ect for a particular county , why not > help out someone else who cant afford to buy all those resources that we need > to > track our families . If we all pool our resources together we can find our > roots so much easier . I just received some great cemetery pictures from > Dewayne on the Arkansas list . He went the extra mile for me & I am so > blessed by that ! > I also received some obits from a kind lady - Sara - in Illinois who spent > a half day searching the cemetery for my gggrandparents graves <- they had > NO markers . people like this are angels in the flesh . What a great > Christmas gift ! :) :) :) > > RAOGK -> pass it on :) > > Thankyou Sara & Dewayne & Laurie & on & on & on > Crys-sheri >

Sheri, I was searching for the burial location of a collateral ancestor who died in the Civil War. Previously, I had found mention in the Regimental Records of the 28th WI Inf. of his burial in the "Mississippi River National Cemetery" (which, by using http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form) I had found out is now called Memphis National Cemetery. I had sent the cemetery a letter, to which they replied "He's not here. But we do have 8,000 Unknown Civil War burials...). Basing my knowledge on the Regimental records, I persisted, to which they again said "He's not here." At this point I went to RAOGK (http://www.raogk.org/) and located a volunteer in Memphis, outlined my problem to them saying that all I had was a 'number' from the Regimental Records. (I had no idea what this 'number' meant and the cemetery said that was an old numbering system and it had no meaning to them.) Well, to make the story short, the RAOGK volunteer found my ancestors tombstone (marked "Unknown") at the Memphis National Cemetery and the stone carried the 'number' I had found in the Regimental Records. I am in process of attempting to get a new head stone bearing my ancestors name. Now that RAOGK volunteer certainly took that extra step and found the information for me! That's what genealogy should be all about - each of us helping out others. It is amazing what can be accomplished by doing this! Please consider volunteering at the RAOGK web site. Remember the saying "What goes around comes around." We can all benefit in our own research by volunteering to help others! Shari ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:51 AM Subject: [NYOnonda] (no subject) > wis1848 .... I would like to know who in Memphis has helped you . That > has got to be the WORST place for getting anything . Elmwood cemetery is the > absolute pits . I have had the worst time with them just trying to find out if > my ancestor was buried . They kept telling me he was not their . After a > year of asking - at intervals - I finally happened on someone who actually > looked it up for me and found him . I just recently asked jim to do a look for > me for a will record at Memphis library . He told me to contact the Memphis > library , that they do those things . Thing is I tried that already & " whoever > " at the Library couldnt find it . I figured I would try someone else to > see if tht would work out better . Sometimes I think that North - South thing > is still going on lol Dont have any desire to even visit Memphis anymore > :( > > Happy Holidays :) > > sheri >

Ann Wonderful - Thanks for assisting me. Pls see my comments back to the lists for more insights on why I wrote my comments. Appreciate you assisting me in this... Appreciate what you told me abt MEIGS too! Lauren Rowe Syracuse NY -----Original Message---From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:24 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYOnonda] [OHMEIGS] Genealogical Gify to List (typo ?) RAOGK stand for Random Acts Of Genealogical Kindness. Here's their website: http://www.raogk.org/ I believe Meigs County is in Ohio. Here's a webpage (not a Rootsweb page, but I am sure there is one) for Meigs County History & Genealogy. http://www.meigscohistoricalsociety.com/index.htm I just used www.google.com and searched the two terms and got these results. Hope this helps. Anne Ruggeri

As a disabled 52yr old woman I spend most of every day helping people on various lists because it interest's me and I imagine the help brings joy to the receiver. Thanks for the descent reply and the URL (Uniform Resource locator) link - I will go there... I never would have guessed what RAOGK meant. Thanks for the explanation. Lauren --Orig- From: Karla VF Staudt [mailto:[email protected]] Friday, December 19, 2003 9:03 AM To: Lauren Rowe Re: [NYOnonda] [OHMEIGS] Genealogical Gify to List (typo ?) Lauren, RAOGK is "Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" - but you are right that not everyone may know that. It generally means one of two things - one, that when you are able that you jump into a query, etc. to help someone, without being asked. Or, there are more ways, suggestions on www.raogk.org to do things on a more organized basis, not necessarily for free. It is a wonderful web site and I have used it and donated time on it. Karla -- Original From: "Lauren Rowe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 7:51 AM RE: [NYOnonda] [OHMEIGS] Genealogical Gify to List (typo ?) Hello - You suggested that 'we' use (?) RAOGK ... (( RAOGK -> pass it on )) But I have no idea what that stands for... nor do I know where -->> Meigs county is... I suggest that when 'we' make the effort to give, 'we' give clearly... Unlike Santa I am unable to travel the globe to 'know' where every place is and what their acronyms are. I don't think 'this consideration' takes an extra mile just another minute or so. I get frustrated when I have to type out everything - but it is for the 'readers clear understanding that I do.... Sharing resources is a waste of time and energy if readers don't understand where the various place names are located and those unknown abbreviations slay me... Frustrated in New York Thanks Lauren in Syracuse NY --Orig From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Thurs,December 18, 2003 12:09 PM To: [email protected] re [OHMEIGS] Genealogical Gify to List Hi Connie I thought of that also . I offered to do lookups -- on another list tht I have resources for . I dont really have any for Meigs county yet . I also do lookups for RAOGK under another e-mail name so as to keep better track of requests . RAOGK is a great resource for those of us who are living on a tight budget . " Give and it shall be given unto you " :) . I have really been helped a lot by these great people who take the time to share a resource with others . There are always going to be people who take advantage of others and give nothing in return . But the people at RAOGK are just really going the extra mile to help each other find their roots . I would like to suggest to anyone on A LIST that if you have purchased resources -- census records - cemetery records - deed records - ect for a particular county , why not help out someone else who cant afford to buy all those resources that we need to track our families . If we all pool our resources together we can find our roots so much easier . I just received some great cemetery pictures from Dewayne on the Arkansas list . He went the extra mile for me & I am so blessed by that ! I also received some obits from a kind lady - Sara - in Illinois who spent a half day searching the cemetery for my gggrandparents graves <- they had NO markers . people like this are angels in the flesh . What a great Christmas gift ! :) :) :) RAOGK -> pass it on :) Thankyou Sara & Dewayne & Laurie & on & on & on Crys-sheri

wis1848 .... I would like to know who in Memphis has helped you . That has got to be the WORST place for getting anything . Elmwood cemetery is the absolute pits . I have had the worst time with them just trying to find out if my ancestor was buried . They kept telling me he was not their . After a year of asking - at intervals - I finally happened on someone who actually looked it up for me and found him . I just recently asked jim to do a look for me for a will record at Memphis library . He told me to contact the Memphis library , that they do those things . Thing is I tried that already & " whoever " at the Library couldnt find it . I figured I would try someone else to see if tht would work out better . Sometimes I think that North - South thing is still going on lol Dont have any desire to even visit Memphis anymore :( Happy Holidays :) sheri

RAOGK stand for Random Acts Of Genealogical Kindness. Here's their website: http://www.raogk.org/ I believe Meigs County is in Ohio. Here's a webpage (not a Rootsweb page, but I am sure there is one) for Meigs County History & Genealogy. http://www.meigscohistoricalsociety.com/index.htm I just used www.google.com and searched the two terms and got these results. Hope this helps. Anne Ruggeri

Anne just posted the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness link. Excellent place to share 'your' local resources in exchange for lookups that 'you' need. For example, in the summer I volunteer to do lookups and take digital photos of tombstones in the Woods National Cemetery (Military cemetery) in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Because I volunteer at RAOGK to 'do what I can' in my area, I can ask someone else on the RAOGK list to do a lookup for me in any area I need some assistance. Charging a research "fee" is not allowed on RAOGK but you can ask that your expenses be reimbursed. As examples: 1. I live in Wisconsin but I needed a record filed with the School Superintendants in South Dakota in 1915. Going to the South Dakota portion of RAOGK, I found a volunteer and now I have a copy of the report my teach-grand-father filed in South Dakota in 1915. Costs paid to the researcher were parking fees, photocopying fees and postage which is allowed per RAOGK guidelines. 2. Again, residing in Wisconsin made it very difficult to visit Memphis, Tennessee to get information on an ancestor's burial site in Tennessee. While I only had valid historical military record that my ancestor was buried in a certain cemetery (and contacting that cemetery by mail and by phone resulted in "Sorry, he's not here!") I contacted a RAOGK volunteer and now have burial information and even a photo of my ancestors tombstone! RAOGK works - but in turn you *must* volunteer to do research in your local area. I don't charge a dime for the cemetery work I do even though I travel 25 miles round trip to take photos by request. I have also transcribed mid 1800's newspapers and posted them online for others, gathered photos of historical schools in Wisconsin, etc. If anyone cares, take a look at my site. There are a couple of links I have to update, but still good stuff for Wisconsin researchers: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~sbosmans/ Shari - who needs help finding land records in Onondago County! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [NYOnonda] [OHMEIGS] Genealogical Gify to List (typo ?) > RAOGK stand for Random Acts Of Genealogical Kindness. Here's their website: > http://www.raogk.org/ > > I believe Meigs County is in Ohio. Here's a webpage (not a Rootsweb page, but > I am sure there is one) for Meigs County History & Genealogy. > http://www.meigscohistoricalsociety.com/index.htm > > I just used www.google.com and searched the two terms and got these results. > > Hope this helps. > > Anne Ruggeri > >

Hello - You suggested that 'we' use (?) RAOGK ... (( RAOGK -> pass it on :) )) But I have no idea what that stands for... nor do I know where -->> Meigs county is... I suggest that when 'we' make the effort to give, 'we' give clearly... Unlike Santa I am unable to travel the globe to 'know' where every place is and what their acronyms are. I don't think 'this consideration' takes an extra mile just another minute or so. I get frustrated when I have to type out everything - but it is for the 'readers clear understanding that I do.... Sharing resources is a waste of time and energy if readers don't understand where the various place names are located and those unknown abbreviations slay me... Frustrated in New York Thanks Lauren in Syracuse NY --Original From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Thursday, December 18, 2003 12:09 PM To: [email protected] re [OHMEIGS] Genealogical Gify to List Hi Connie I thought of that also . I offered to do lookups -- on another list tht I have resources for . I dont really have any for Meigs county yet . I also do lookups for RAOGK under another e-mail name so as to keep better track of requests . RAOGK is a great resource for those of us who are living on a tight budget . " Give and it shall be given unto you " :) . I have really been helped a lot by these great people who take the time to share a resource with others . There are always going to be people who take advantage of others and give nothing in return . But the people at RAOGK are just really going the extra mile to help each other find their roots . I would like to suggest to anyone on A LIST that if you have purchased resources -- census records - cemetery records - deed records - ect for a particular county , why not help out someone else who cant afford to buy all those resources that we need to track our families . If we all pool our resources together we can find our roots so much easier . I just received some great cemetery pictures from Dewayne on the Arkansas list . He went the extra mile for me & I am so blessed by that ! I also received some obits from a kind lady - Sara - in Illinois who spent a half day searching the cemetery for my gggrandparents graves <- they had NO markers . people like this are angels in the flesh . What a great Christmas gift ! :) :) :) RAOGK -> pass it on :) Thankyou Sara & Dewayne & Laurie & on & on & on Crys-sheri

Hi Connie I thought of that also . I offered to do lookups -- on another list tht I have resources for . I dont really have any for Meigs county yet . I also do lookups for RAOGK under another e-mail name so as to keep better track of requests . RAOGK is a great resource for those of us who are living on a tight budget . " Give and it shall be given unto you " :) . I have really been helped a lot by these great people who take the time to share a resource with others . There are always going to be people who take advantage of others and give nothing in return . But the people at RAOGK are just really going the extra mile to help each other find their roots . I would like to suggest to anyone on A LIST that if you have purchased resources -- census records - cemetery records - deed records - ect for a particular county , why not help out someone else who cant afford to buy all those resources that we need to track our families . If we all pool our resources together we can find our roots so much easier . I just received some great cemetery pictures from Dewayne on the Arkansas list . He went the extra mile for me & I am so blessed by that ! I also received some obits from a kind lady - Sara - in Illinois who spent a half day searching the cemetery for my gggrandparents graves <- they had NO markers . people like this are angels in the flesh . What a great Christmas gift ! :) :) :) RAOGK -> pass it on :) Thankyou Sara & Dewayne & Laurie & on & on & on Crys-sheri

for goodness sakes how did this pass me by...... :-) I've fallen and I can't get up.... -----Original From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 7:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYOnonda] Genealogy Column I guess that all depends on ,,,,,,,if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sakes..... ______________________________

I don't know - is it? Who is she? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 5:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Genealogy Column I read in today's newspaper that Sheila Byrnes will play Santa next Sunday in the Stars section. Is this good news or not. Jean ______________________________

I am hoping to go to Onondaga County right after Christmas -- assuming weather, etc., cooperate. I will be driving across country. I would greatly appreciate any help that can be provided about where to go to find possible records. In particular, my ancestor, Philo Goodrich was born in 1812 -- I believe his father was Giles Goodrich Jr., and I have his mother's name only as Modena? I know that Giles lived in Manlius and have found a reference to his selling land there in 1810, in an internet history of Manlius. He married for what must have been a second time in 1814 in Orange County -- but none of the records there mention Philo. Giles Goodrich (probably Sr.) is shown in Cicero in the 1810 and I believe 1820 census. I cannot find a record for the death of Giles Goodrich Sr. or his wife, Hannah, in that area -- but thought perhaps he raised Philo. Can someone help me determine where to go to look for birth/baptism records for 1812 in Onondaga County? I believe they might have been Methodists, or possibly Presbyterian. Philo married and is buried in Genesee County (Elba), but I have not found an obituary or other records at this point. I hope to go there as well. I suppose I should go there first? I am tracking this from "both ends" of the line in hopes of making the connection our family records indicate exists -- but I can find no proof. Thanks very much, Margaret --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.551 / Virus Database: 343 - Release Date: 12/11/2003

Ensign Samuel Dodge is listed #69 in the Military Tract on the Onondaga Co NY Web Page. He drew his lot in the Lysander Military Tract. Does anyone know if he is connected to the following family? Joseph D DODGE married in Lysander, Onondaga Co to Anne DEPUY in 1828, daughter of Benjamin DEPUY. Joseph had a brother John F DODGE that married Zelia GRENELL, daug of John & Lucinda RUDD GRENELL ON 13 March 1831 probably in Onondaga Co. If there is no connection to Samuel DODGE, can anyone lead me to the parents of Joseph & John? Where I might find their marriages. I found John & Zelia's marriage in a family bible. Ardith

Kay, I suggest that the Onondaga County, New York USGenWeb Site would be the perfect place for the Church records. Go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyononda/INDEX.HTM It you go to the bottom of the first page, you will see that Pamela & Jay Priest are the Administrators of the Site. I am sure that they would welcome the records. In fact, some records of the The First Presbyterian Church are already there. Carl Hommel ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:44 PM Subject: [NYOnonda] Re:Early Records of The First Presbyterian Churc > In a message dated 12/15/2003 12:01:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > I could not make any sense of this, it must have been from a grid or > > something > > broken into boxes. Can it be sent as plain text? Thanks > > > > I did type this in plain text, exactly as written in the book. > > Would the list owner please contact me? Gary Jones of the OCPL suggested > that this information from the subject book might be put on a different site > where it would be more easily searchable. Perhaps a different format other than > just typing the information would be preferable. > > Kay Timmons > Annapolis, MD >

In a message dated 12/15/2003 12:01:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I could not make any sense of this, it must have been from a grid or > something > broken into boxes. Can it be sent as plain text? Thanks > I did type this in plain text, exactly as written in the book. Would the list owner please contact me? Gary Jones of the OCPL suggested that this information from the subject book might be put on a different site where it would be more easily searchable. Perhaps a different format other than just typing the information would be preferable. Kay Timmons Annapolis, MD

I am looking for information on and/or connections to the subject couple. They had a daughter, Elizabeth, in Jordan, on April 6, 1855. Daughter married John Jacob Jewell from Syracuse, also Onondaga County. Rodger Airey Marlton, NJ

Shari, I don't know about Marcellus, but the Syracuse area really got dumped on yesterday. There had been 15 inches for December as of late Friday, and by this morning there had been 31.7 inches for December -- all of the 16+ inches of additional snow fell on Sunday. Marcellus is west and south of Syracuse, so it might not have gotten as much snow -- but I doubt there are any visible tombstones right now. -- Mary Taffet wis1848 wrote: > > Is anyone able to get photos for me of tombstones in the Marcellus cemetery > (or are you folks all snowed in already)? > > Shari

Is anyone able to get photos for me of tombstones in the Marcellus cemetery (or are you folks all snowed in already)? Shari

I could not make any sense of this, it must have been from a grid or something broken into boxes. Can it be sent as plain text? Thanks -----Original From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 6:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOnonda] Early Records of First Presbyterian Church COPY OF RECORD kEPT BY REV. JOHN WATSON ADAMS, D.D.., PASTOR OF THE FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF SYRACUSE, 1826-1850. BAPTIZED CHILDREN Name of Parents Names of Children When Baptized R. L. Hess and wife, Reuben Collins, June 30,1838 Mrs. Jason C. Woodruff Jason Cooper, June 29,1838 Harriet Louisa,Charlotte Amanda, (the blank dates are "ditto") Josiah Wright and wife, Sarah Bushnell, Almira Adams, Henrietta Watson, April, 1838 Dr. Mayo and wife, Levi Snow, Jan. 4, 1839 Silas Cheesebro and wife, Thomas Williams Henry Gifford, name not given April 26, 1839 Daniel Bonta, Margaret, Maria Lynds, Philip Edward Sing, Paschal Thurber, Jane Ann, Frances Maria, William and Lucretia Abbott Charles William, July 5, 1839 Samuel Junius, Harriet Elizabeth Mary Louisa, Thomas and Minerva Hoyt Newton Osceola, Isaac and Emily Cramer Isaac Phoebe Emily David July 3, 1840 Flora Marsh, wife of M. G. Marsh George Augustus Oct. 11, 1839 William T. and Lydia Wilson Mary Jane, Nancy P. Theodore D. and Alma T. Barton name not given Ezra Town and Frances Town John Henry May 10, 1840 Elizabeth Cook Feb. 1, 1847 Geo. Fitch,Laura Fitch name not given July 3, 1840 J. Gibson Burnet and Jane Burnet name not given A. Root and wife George Oct. 9, 1840\ Charles Pope and wife Charles Jane Ann White, wife name not given Jan 1, 1841 of John White name not given (sic) name not given Oct. 3, 1845 Smith Ostrom and wife Alonzo Smith Aug. 3, 1841 Jason C. Woodruff name not given Aug. 24, 1841 and wife name not given Jan 2, 1846 Wm. Barker and wife Daniel Webster Oct 8, 1841 Thos. B. Hoyt and wife Adnah Wm. Abbott and wife Henrietta Esther V. Van Rensselaer and Mary Van Rensselaer Joshua Forman Nov. 1841 Ezra Town and Frances Town George Cook Dec 31, 1841 Maria Harrison, Morris DeLamatter, Charles Worcester Johnson Hall and Polly Hall Charles Carroll, Dec 31, 1841 Edward Livingston Thomas Jefferson, Helen Maria, Olivia Henry and Phoebe Gifford Martha, Dec 31,1841 Henry Jan 2, 1846 George Mary Jane Lewis name not given April 1, 1842 name not given (sic) Jerusha Forbes, wife of Phoebe Ann, March 1842 John G. Forbes Sarah Phoenix, Mrs. Oren Root Oren Sept. 30, 1842 Edward Walstein A. L. Fellows, Amanda Edward Fellows Renette C. Ostrander, Martha Ann Dec 30, 1842 William Weed Garret Schunerman John Watson and wife Champion Spencer and Letitia Louisa Feb 1843 Louisa Spencer Mary Gertrude James R. Lawrence and Eureka April 12, 1843 Lawrence Ida

I guess that all depends on ,,,,,,,if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sakes.....