Does anyone know if either the library or the historical society has his work on the Parsons Family? I knew he was working on it a number of years back.

Gerald J. Parsons was the former head of the Genealogy and Local History Department of Onondaga County Public Library, and an eminent genealogist. December 29, 2003 Gerald J. Parsons, 79, of Syracuse, passed away Monday evening, December 29, 2003 at Crouse Hospital after a lengthy battle with cancer. Mr. Parsons was born in Syracuse, NY and graduated as valedictorian of his class in June 1942. He served in the army during World War II, from March 1943 through January 1946. He was a member of the 275th Engineer Combat Battalion 75th Division during the Battle of the Bulge, continuing with them in France, Belgium, Holland and Germany receiving credit for the Ardennes Central Europe and Rhineland Campaigns. He was honorably discharged in January 1946. Mr. Parsons attended Syracuse University where he received an A.B. in history in 1949 and a Master of Science in Library Science in June 1950. He is a member of Beta Phi Mu international library science honor society. Mr. Parsons began his professional career in 1950 in the Rochester Public Library where he served as head of the Education, Philosophy and Religion Division. He joined the staff at the Syracuse Public Library (now the Onondaga County Public Library) in September 1958, he retired from there in March of 1986 after almost 26 years as the librarian of the Local History and Genealogy Department. Mr. Parsons published his first piece of historical writing in 1942, since that time he has published numerous genealogical articles including many in the American Genealogical magazine where he was a contributing editor from 1952 to 1982. He was a book review editor for Tree Talks the journal of the CNY Genealogical Society. In January 2003, Mr. Parsons published Our Parsons Heritage, which represented 66 years of research. In November 2003, he published his last work, The Wilson Family.Mr. Parsons was elected a Fellow of the American Society Genealogists in September 1955 the highest honor on can achieve in the field of American Genealogy. He was a member of numerous organizations including the CNY Genealogical Society, Onondaga Historical Association and the Alumni association of Syracuse University and its School of Information Studies. Mr. Parsons is survived by a brother and sister-in-law, Paul and Joy Parsons of Chesapeake, Virginia, formally of Liverpool, NY; a nephew, Brian Parsons of Portsmouth, Virginia; a niece, Cynthia Sullivan of Hannibal, New York; two great-nephews; two great-nieces; a cousin, Stuart Wilson of Liverpool, New York and numerous extended family members. Services will be 11:30 a.m, Saturday at Fairchild & Meech DeWitt Chapel, 3690 Erie Blvd. E., calling hours will be 4 to 7 p.m. Friday at the funeral chapel. Spring burial will be in South Butler Cemetery. Contributions may be made in Mr. Parsons name to the Onondaga County Public Library or the Onondaga County Historical Society. Published in the Syracuse Post Standard on 12/31/2003.

Thanks so much to all of you who helped out on this! Very much appreciated. What a wonderful list this is. Michelle

There was also a "Wittig's Ice Cream Parlor" on Westcott Street in the little business district between E Genesee St. & Euclid Ave. My mother used to take me there to get Pistachio Ice Cream during the very early forties of the last century. Like the rest of the Ice Cream Parlors of yesteryear it has disappeared. Your relative may have done many things - from sweeping floors to serving the ice cream 'treats' to actually making the ice cream. The only place I can get pistachio ice cream now is in my memories or freeze Jell-O Pistachio pudding and pretend it's ice cream. Nothing can really replace Wittig's. Happy New Year to all!! Rick Hermle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michelle Stone" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 3:09 PM Subject: [NYOnonda] What was WITTIG's in Syracuse, c. 1936? > Hi, > > Can anyone tell me what Wittig's was, located at 1711 Grant Blvd. in > Syracuse circa 1936? A relative was employed there at the age of 17; > wondering what he might have been doing. > > Many thanks, > > Michelle Stone > Marietta, Georgia > > "German Immigrant Ancestors in Syracuse & Onondaga Co., NY" > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mstone/ >

Is there anyone who would look up an obituary in Syracuse for me? I am will to pay for time and copies. Mary Kay

Wittig's was an Ice Cream Parlor in the 50's located at James & Midler(where the Steak & Sundae is today). Not sure of location in 1936 era. Not sure how long it was in business at that location. The Poorhouse Bar, had different locations... Poorhouse West was in Western Lights, Onondaga Blvd. Poorhouse North was in Liverpool, possibly Old Liverpool Road. Not sure if there was any more... I was too young. :-))

Hi, Can anyone tell me what Wittig's was, located at 1711 Grant Blvd. in Syracuse circa 1936? A relative was employed there at the age of 17; wondering what he might have been doing. Many thanks, Michelle Stone Marietta, Georgia "German Immigrant Ancestors in Syracuse & Onondaga Co., NY" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mstone/

It was an ice cream parlour. There were several around the Syracuse area up though the 60s and 70s. There was another one on Erie Blvd & Walnut Ave that became the original "Poor House" in the latter half of the 60s. This was a bar down the hill from Syracuse University. For years you could still see the old rusting Whittigs sign covered with weeds leaning against the sign post in the corner of the parking lot. Even that is all gone now. It was turned into a park of some kind if I remember correctly. Best Regards, Mike McGraw Austin, TX -----Original Message----- From: Michelle Stone [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 2:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOnonda] What was WITTIG's in Syracuse, c. 1936? Hi, Can anyone tell me what Wittig's was, located at 1711 Grant Blvd. in Syracuse circa 1936? A relative was employed there at the age of 17; wondering what he might have been doing. Many thanks, Michelle Stone Marietta, Georgia "German Immigrant Ancestors in Syracuse & Onondaga Co., NY" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mstone/

--=======2D05239D======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7E114C9; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello; How difficult is it to obtain divorce records in Onondaga Co? suggestions welcome. Here is the situation. My gg-mother Hannah Benedict 1809-1896, married George Virgil 3/15/1829. They had ad least 1 child, Sarah B. 1834 and perhaps another born in 1840. The on line cemetery records show nothing for George Virgil. Some researchers believe he lived well past 1850. Aug 22, 1846 Hannah married Sidney Ellis and they had 4 children from 1847 to 1852. All of the events except the birth of the last 3 Ellis children are believed to have occurred in the Pompey/Fabious area. I would like to determine how and when the marriage of Hannah and George Virgil was terminated. All help appreciated. David Maynard Franklin NC [email protected] Searching: MAYNARD, ELLIS, WHITING, BENEDICT, BENSON. --=======2D05239D=======--

Yes, The Syracuse Obits are online for only a period of 6 months, and a 15 year archive that one must pay to get the article in full. Another option is to ask someone near Syracuse to locate the obit in at the library person in Syracuse and email or snail mail it to you. However, the Newsbank American Obituaries and Death Notices have the Syracuse Newspapers online since 1986, full obituaries once you do a search. Plus the Obituaries and Death notices have access to over 250 newspapers around the United States. Here's a link for the description. http://www.newsbank.com/public/obit.html Contact your local library for them to subscribe to Newsbank's American Obituaries and Death Notices. You'll be glad you did, and since it will be (hopefully) through your local library, just use your Library card to access it for free. Ask your Library to get this resources and include it in the Remote Access Databases that is currently available. Then you can research your Obits at home, 24 hours a day. In a previous email to the Onondaga County Rootsweb list I asked people to send a letter in support of the Onondaga County Public Library to add the Newsbank's American Obituaries and Death Notices resource, as well as obtaining Heritage Quest Online to compliment the Ancestry.com that they got about a year ago or so. Please write a letter to: Ms. Mary Fran Floreck Executive Director of the Onondaga County Public Library 447 So. Salina Street Syracuse, NY 13202. Thanks Anne Ruggeri Brewerton, NY

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The Syracuse daily newspaper is on line and they have the obituaries for the last six months. This is free and they even have the option of sending it email to someone else. This is a wonderful resource that I have used often. Most other newspapers only carry them for a few days. Joyce (born in Syracuse but have lived in Texas for forty years) _________________________________________________________________ Get reliable dial-up Internet access now with our limited-time introductory offer. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

Bev; Welcome to the list. I looked up your names and this is what I found: 1918 city directory Frank S. Troutman, supt., home at 518 Tallman Joel F. Troutman, vice pres, business at 501 E. water, home at 167 Beverly rd. Louis I Troutman, salesman at 501 E Water, home at 108 Bungalow Marie A. Troutman, boards at 518 Tallman 501 East Water Street, listed as Borgeson & Davern Inc. Smith H A Machinery Co. 1921 Telephone directory J F Troutman, Elec Sup. At 244 W. Jefferson, home at 167 Beverly Rd. Louis Troutman, home at 103 upland rd. 1930 City Directory Cornelia M. Troutman, widow of Frank S. home at 728 Tallman Edward Troutman, ins. Agent at 108 W. Jefferson rm 705, resides at Liverpool Frank G. Troutman, Student, home at 106 Upland Rd. Frank S. Troutman, ( Corneilia) died July 29th 1929 age 80 I Louis (Edith L.) pattern maker home at 106 Upland rd. Joel F. Troutman (Mildred R.) pres. Condult Electric Supply Corp. at 244 W. Jefferson, home at 167 Beverly rd. Mary A. Troutman, asst at 109 S. Warren rm 907, home at 728 Tallman Ruth Troutman, Student nurse 150 Marshall 109 South Warren is the State Tower Building room 907 was a dentist office 108 West Jefferson was the Loew Building rm 705 Metropolitan Life Ins. 150 Marshall was the Hospital of the Good Shepard. Bev, I hope this helps a little in your search. Good luck, Linda Lee Benish Essig, Vaeth, Lee, Horton -----Original Message----- From: Bev Morris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOnonda] TROUTMANs in Syracuse c1910; New to List Hi... Happy New Year! I'm new to the list. Hoping someone will have info on the following family found on 1910 and 1920 census in Syracuse, Onondaga Co., NY. Frank S. TROUTMAN Born: June 1849, New York Parents: Joel TROUTMAN and Louisa OSMAN* Marr: Cornelia Died: btn. 1920 - 1930 Between 1900 and 1910 Frank & his family moved from Seneca Falls, Seneca Co., NY. Cornelia (maiden name Unknown) TROUTMAN Born: June 1852, New York Died: after 1930, probably Syracuse where she lived Known children: (all living in Syracuse, except Oliver) Joel TROUTMAN, b. Oct 1873 marr. Mildred Marie/Mary A. TROUTMAN b. Nov 1877 w/mother in 1930 Oliver W. TROUTMAN b. Aug 1880 (probably in Michigan 1930) Louis TROUTMAN b. Sep 1883 marr. Edith Louisa (OSMAN) TROUTMAN* is most likely my 3rd great grandaunt. I have some of her ancesry to share. - Again, I would like any knowledge about this family. Does anyone know about a library in Syracuse that I could send for obituaries? Any historical societies there that would help? Any other ideas appreciated. Thank you, Bev in Calif.

Hi everyone, It was brought to my attention recently, that we (the ones who use the services of the Onondaga County Public Library - OCPL), need to make it known that we would like them to add additional resources. Here are my two suggestions, for right now..... #1 Heritage Quest Online (They have numerous Census that are indexed that Ancestry.com does not yet have indexed, and they have a number of different books that can be searched from all over the world. Some libraries allow patrons to access this at home.) #2 Newsbank Obituaries and Death Notices (You can search and locate Obits & Death notices for all over the United States. The dates vary for each of the newspapers in their collection, but its still a great reference tool. I have found numerous obits from all over when I had access to it. Again, some libraries allow for the Remote Access too.) Here's what you can do to help. Write a personal letter, I was told a petition wouldn't be very effective. It might help to mention how helpful the 5th Floor Local History Room employees and collection have helped you in your Genealogy pursuits, and how you anticipate they can be of greater help if the OCPL will consider adding new resources. Please write a letter to: Ms. Mary Fran Floreck Executive Director of the Onondaga County Public Library 447 So. Salina Street Syracuse, NY 13202. Thanks everyone & good luck with your Genealogy in 2004. Anne Ruggeri Brewerton, NY

Hello, Lauren: "Our" Rowe from that area is Ransom Rowe. His son is Ransom Rowe II, and his wife is Alzina Bailey, daugher of John Bailey. Ransom Rowe II was born March 30, 1818 and died June 17, 1856. Their son, Ransom (Willis) Rowe III was born November 29, 1842 and died in action in Civil WarJuly 22, 1864 . He was married September 10, 1863 to Sarah Jane. Their are other Rowes in this line. Can you give more details about your Rowe/Roe families? Let's hope we can make a connection somewhere along the way. Thanks, and happy hunting in 2004. Lois

Having ancestors and cousins from the Pompey Tully area I sure do wish you had listed the family surnames.... we might link... I noticed that Camillus was once considered DeWitt. Then I wonder was DeWitt once considered 'in' as in 'a part' of Pompey? I wonder about other significant boundary changes especially those relative to Jordan Pompey Tully Fabius Manlius...etc... does anyone know if there exists someplace esp. on the web, a list of the dates the boundaries changed? A few of my surnames in 'this area' are: Rowe Roe Kendall VanDuson Hine1834 Marcellus 1800 Stillwell Manlius 1827 Mary Rowe Manlius Dan Rowe1813Manlius Lucian Elihu Rowe b 4/2/1031 Pompey Everson Pompey(poss) 1839 Ellen Carolyn Rowe Eagle Village 1800 Callender Manlius Lucian Hine Rowe 1863 Jordan 1811 Aurelia Rowe>Camillus dau of Daniel think Dan Rowe moved here circa 1810 aka David Roe? 1830Jordan VanValkenburgh 1886and1885 Jordan> Carrington nd Sperry I wonder why my family surname Rowe or Roe is not found in historic reports like the one mentioned by Diane Wilson Flynn. It hurts to be left out. It's kind of like writing my family 'out' of local history. I wonder what criteria was used. Are their any cousins out there? Lauren Deborah Rowe b Oswego res Syracuse NY --Orig From: J CRANDALL [mailto:[email protected] Sat Jan 3 2004 7:46p To: [email protected] Subject: [NYOnonda] Research in Syracuse yrs ago, visited Syr re m info, went to new St. Mary's RC Chch. cordially received got wealth of info, no rushed, frm: Fr. Carl H. Roesch, Archivist Diocese of Syracuse 240 East Onondaga St. Syracuse, NY snip >>>>

Would some kind soul plesae check the Syracuse City Directories for 1870- 1890 for the surname listed above. The names would be for Charles, Barbara, Caroline,Linda and Elish or Elizabeth. Thank you. Ron, Ohio

My HOLZMANN/ HOLSMAN family ancestors lived on Otisco street c. 1880 per the US census. I Have a picture of a home from that era that is unidentified from Syracuse NY. The photographers name stamped on the back is Geo. G. WORTH, 407 Wilbur Ave., Syracuse NY. I would like to know if someone may be familiar with the homes that are or were on that street recently and they may be able to identify if the home in the picture is in fact possibly on Otisco Street. If you would like a copy of the photo of the home please e mail me directly and I will e mail it to you. Thank you, Ron, Cleveland OH

In a message dated 1/3/2004 7:28:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Does anyone know if the burial records for Pompey Hill Cemetery are on line. I am looking for members of the Holsmann /Holzmann etc. families who may be buried there. Go to Google.com and type: "Pompey Hill Cemetery" in the search box, including the quotations marks. Although I found no one of the Holzmann/Holtzmann, etc. surname appearing in the online cemetery listing, there is some excellent advice in the paragraph at the beginning of the Pompey Hill Cemetery listing. Kathy Crowell cites a book that contains much more Pompey cemetery information, as well as the name and address of the town historian. It is my understanding that the Rev. Wm. Martin Beauchamp, from whose notes the Pompey Hill Cemetery listing was compiled, was often selective. [In other words, he did not always list ALL of a cemetery's burials in his notes.] On several occasions I have compared separate unpublished readings of a cemetery's headstones and have been amazed at how much they differ -- with each other, and with my own reading of the same stones. In one case, the true year of death on a monument, 1849, was readable only in my photographs. By my on-site reading of the monument, and in two DAR listings, the year of death was 1819. [Other records establish 1849 as the correct year of death]. To add to the confusion, a Civil War marker [1861-1865] was placed at the grave! Although I don't recall you mentioning the time period in which your HOLZMANNs might be found in Onondaga County, their given names or why you think that they might have been been buried at Pompey Hill, a search on the Onondaga County USGenWeb site shows these promising names appearing on 1874 maps: Holtzman, G., lot 93 Holzman, G., Danforth & Brighton map The Onondaga Co. USGenWeb site has two search engines. One of them found Holtzman and Holzman. The other search engine found neither surname. Go figure. The HOLZMANN surname is one where SOUNDEX searching capabilities on a website can overcome many variations in spelling. Ancestry.com has SOUNDEX searching. Rootsweb.com, a free website, has SOUNDEX and metaphone searching. Hope this helps someone in their online searching. Diane Wilson Flynn

Ron, The records for the Pompey Hill Cemetery are on line at the first place you should have looked, at the Onondaga County Genweb site. Go to http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enyononda/CEMETERY/POMPEYHI.HTM Carl Hommel ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 10:27 PM Subject: [NYOnonda] Holzmann Surname: Pompey Hill Cemetery Syracuse > Does anyone know if the burial records for Pompey Hill Cemetery are on line. > I am looking for members of the Holsmann /Holzmann etc. families who may be > buried there. > > If online records are not available I would be willing to reimburse SKS for > their expense and time in checking the cemetery for any of the Holzmann family > members buried there. > > Thank you, > Ron, Ohio >