I am researching a family in Utica and need a copy of a birth certificate for 1919. Since the clerk's office in Utica makes it so hard for people to obtain birth certificates, unless you can prove to their satisfaction that you are related to the person, is an alternative approach of writing directly to the churches in Utica feasible? Presumably, they will have copies of birth certificates as well, and may not impose such tight conditions on people seeing their own records as does the city authorities in Utica. Any thoughts on this? Thanks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

You presume too much! You will be lucky to get a baptismal date, never mind a birth certificate from a church Good luck, Liz Parmalee ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Critchley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Birth certs in Utica churches > > I am researching a family in Utica and need a copy of > a birth certificate for 1919. Since the clerk's > office in Utica makes it so hard for people to obtain > birth certificates, unless you can prove to their > satisfaction that you are related to the person, is an > alternative approach of writing directly to the > churches in Utica feasible? Presumably, they will > have copies of birth certificates as well, and may not > impose such tight conditions on people seeing their > own records as does the city authorities in Utica. > Any thoughts on this? Thanks. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ > >

David, You can get a copy of the original birth certificate (not a copy from Utica's register)from the NY State if you meet their requirements: See website at http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/vr/forms/genealogy.htm They say they will issue the certificate if it is 75 years old and the person is deceased. You can also look up the birth in the NY State Vital Records Index in NYC, Albany, Rochester and perhaps elsewhere. This isn't as complete as the certificate, but will give you name, date and birthplace. I've found it very accurate when I've compared it to the actual certificates. Also if you are not quite sure the birth occurred in Utica, the index will tell you if the event really occurred in New Hartford or some other neighboring town. Regarding church records, they do not contain birth records, but usually have baptismal records. Depending on the denomination and time period, some baptismal records do contain birth date as well as baptismal date. When requesting certificates from the church, be sure to ask for all information included on the original register. Otherwise, you may get only the baptismal date. Hope this helps. Roy -----Original Message----- From: David Critchley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Birth certs in Utica churches I am researching a family in Utica and need a copy of a birth certificate for 1919. Since the clerk's office in Utica makes it so hard for people to obtain birth certificates, unless you can prove to their satisfaction that you are related to the person, is an alternative approach of writing directly to the churches in Utica feasible? Presumably, they will have copies of birth certificates as well, and may not impose such tight conditions on people seeing their own records as does the city authorities in Utica. Any thoughts on this? Thanks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== Contact the List Manager at [email protected] Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/

Could one of the cemetery volunteers for the county webpage (specifically in the Town of Floyd) please contact me off list. tia, Neal Carrier