Frank, You have a few questions and these are just a few suggestions. To see where the family actually lived, could be determined by a looking for deeds in the Oneida County clerks office. The earliest land purchase by William, if there is one, would tell you when they may have arrived in the county. His subsequent land transaction may tell you when they moved, from Florence to Camden township. A check at the Onondaga county clerks office will show when they may have arrived and if they sold to move on. Directories/gazetteers may also list the family if they are available. I would not rule out searching the State of Michigan for them since may families migrated there from NY. Josepine's memebership at St Mary's by letter, should list the church in Syracuse. Record books at St Mary's should note this. I have seen other church records where admission by letter was followed by noting the preceeding church. If the Syracuse church is named the same can be done if the family was admitted by letter there. Chances are the family attended a Church in either the town of Florence or Camden. Hope these will help. I'm sure there other avenues to look into, these are just a few. Good luck with your search. Rick Porter Finger Lakes House Histories -----Original Message----- >From: Frank Bax <fbax@sympatico.ca> >Sent: Jun 20, 2007 9:55 AM >To: NYONEIDA@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NYONEIDA] Camden/Florence before 1870 > >First posting here. Although I have done research for many years, none of >it was in the USA (except contacting a few living distant cousins), so >please feel free to state the obvious (to anyone else) about existing >records, because I probably don't know about them. > >First the facts (as I know them), then the questions... > >I found the family of William and Ann James in 1850 and 1860 census in >NY-Oneida. > >1850 US Census - town of Florence >William 42, Ann 39, Arthur 12, William E 9, John W 5, Charles R 2 > >1860 US Census - town of Camden; Florence Post Office >William 53, Ann 51, Arthur J 22, Edwin J 18, John W 15, Charles R 13, Mary >8, Josephine 3. > >Census images available here: ><http://www.execulink.com/%7Efbax/FamTree/James/>http://www.execulink.com/~fbax/FamTree/James/ > >Three children are married in St.Marys, ON, Canada in 1870's; birthplaces >are noted as either NY state or Oneida, NY. It looks like the family was >in Syracuse before they crossed the border because Josephine's membership >in Baptist church in Ontario was transferred "by letter" from Syracuse. I >did not find this family in either 1870 US or 1871 Canada census; but >expect they should still be in USA. > >1) Is it possible to determine a precise place of residence from the >census? How? Is family in the same place in 1850 and 1860? I'd like to >check nearby cemeteries, but I don't yet know what "nearby" means. > >2) Are there any records for births (1838-1860) or marriage (before 1838) >in Oneida? > >3) What records might be available (Internet, LDS, etc) for further >research in NY on this family? > >4) Does anyone here happen to know anything about membership rolls of >Baptist churches in Syracuse about 1870, or do I also need to join the >Onondaga list for this question? > >Thanks, Frank > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message