Hello! Unfortunately, you know more of your Allen than I do of mine. My ALLEN has been just that for more than 100 years now. Everywhere we look in the family genealogy he is referred to as ________ ALLEN. I believe we have finally found his name though and it is Arty or Artie ALLEN. There is an Artemas Allen in the 1800 Oneida Census and in the 1810 Census as well. I think maybe this is him. There are no Arthur Allen's in those censuses for Oneida County, at least that is what someone told me. In 1820 he is not there, as expected, and Tabitha is alone. Also, his son, Japhet Chapin ALLEN named his first son, Arty ALLEN. I believe he was born in Massachusetts (probably in the 1770's) because I have found a marriage record for them stating that Arty ALLEN married Tabitha CHAPIN in Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts on 5 Jan 1799. Plus, that is where the Chapin's were from anyway and Tabitha was born there. They may have come to Oneida County between 1799, their marriage, and 1800. I do know that they lived in the old town of Amboy which I have found is supposed to be somewhere near Camden. There is an old cemetery left and that is about it. I also know from old family letters that Japhet Chapin Allen, (b. 25 Nov 1810 in Amboy, Oneida, New York) was about 4 years old when his father died. I think Arty may have died in the war of 1812. Japhet was indentured out at a young age and I have no idea what happened to Tabitha or Arty or where either of them are buried. Japhet Chapin Allen married Chloe STANFORD, daughter of Jonathan Stanford & Eunice MORTON of Annsville, and moved first to Illinois and then on to Iowa. She is my Stanford connection. I have tons on the Stanford's and tons on the Chapin's but almost nothing on my elusive Arty Allen. I figure that Church, land records, and maybe Military records are the only records left about him. I don't seem to find a will. I will try some of these other records next. It is interesting that you have an Allen from anothere state as well. We may need to keep each other posted. Who knows? I guess everyone started coming to Oneida, NY about this same time though. It does make it difficult. Most of my direct line ancestors have moved West and away from the Oneida area by 1850. Happy Hunting Ruth Helvy Listowner for Seccomb mail list Proud Sponsor of Rootweb JONICK5029@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/10/99 11:41:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > waha3ra@uswest.net writes: > > << ALLEN, CASE, CHAPIN (only a small connection to Oneida Co.), MORSE, > MORTON, ROCKWOOD or ROCKWELL >> > > Hi, I am searching for ALLENs in Oneida County as well. > > Looking for info on the following: > > Sylvanus ALLEN married to Lydia BRYANT, one known child: WILLIAM > > 1850 lived in Oneida County: > > WILLIAM ALLEN b. approx. 1777 in Massachusetts or Vermont. Married to Ariel > b. approx. 1782 in Connecticut. > > Children: > Rebecca m. David Burrows > Sarah not married > LUTHER H. > Amanda married to Schuyler Wheeler > Salome married to Caleb Burrows > Lydia married to Robert Stancliff > Almira married to Loren Sanders > Lorenda married to Mr. Lawrence > Lucy married to Oscar Loomis > Lavina married to William Cordell > Fanny A. married to Albert Skiff > > Specifically looking for his child LUTHER ALLEN b. approx. 1808 born in > Herkimer County, NY m. Ann born in Massachusetts. > > Children: > > MONROE > Saphrona > Harriett Dopkin > > Lived in Oneida County, NY. > > A note from Herkimer County page: William Allen....was an early settler in > Remsen, Oneida County, NY., where he settled on a farm one fourth of a mile > north of Fairchild Corners. He was one of the first Baptist Society formed > in 1799 in Russia, NY. He was the last of these original members of the > Russia Church Roll and the last to pass away as far as known.....he served in > the War of 1812...died on May 11th, 1858. > All of his children are listed in Oneida County. > > Also, My Sarah Angeline Orcutt Chesebro ALLEN lived in the Hiram and Roxey > ROCKWELL home: > > Angeline ORCUTT on the 1855 state census for the Town of > Stockbridge, Madison County, NY, with the Hiram and Roxey ROCKWELL > family. Her relation to the head of household was “servant” and her > occupation was “Domestic”. > > ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATFULLY APPRECIATED!!!!!!!!!! > Jo Dee Frasco > JONICK5029@aol.com