William Kneale, his wife Margaret and five children, William, 17; Margaret,15; John,13; Thomas, 11; and Christina,8, arrived in Utica in 1827 from the Isle of Man (between Ireland and Scotland). John and Thomas were "bound out to the tobacco trade" (indentured?) and both left Utica in 1837 to enter the tobacco/cigar business in Westfield, MA. I don't know what happened to any of the others. I have some questions as to why they settled in Utica: Was there a Manx community there as there was in Cleveland? Is it likely that they traveled on the Erie Canal until their money ran out or that they paid for passage as far as their money would take them, hoping later to move on? The second question is probably unanswerable without a diary, but can anyone tell me if there were other Manxmen in the area? Christina presumably married a man named Garrett when she was in her 40s - Garrett is a name common to the Isle of Man - last known they lived in Newfield, NY. William Sr. presumably died 1862 in Utica. Any comments or observations would be welcome. Tom Kneil Wichita, KS