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I have not found Mr.Smith, Abigail and family together on a census that I can be certain of. My prime suspect family is on page 433 of the 1810 Oneida County census in what should be Western but no town name is given. Jared Olcott is nearby. I have never been able to find an original copy of the complete Oneida County census. That should have complete names but there doesn't seem to be one in existance. Norman is said in censuses to be born in NY. The State census for 1865 says that James was born in Oneida Co.. I found a record in the Surrogate's Court that caught my interest. It is an attestation of the death of Edward Smith of Rome dated 2 Nov 1813. In it Abigail Smith of Rome said that Edward Smith late of Rome is deceased and that she saw him die "and further saith not". Really tough family here and they drive me crazy. How are you related? On 7/2/07, EOMO@aol.com <EOMO@aol.com> wrote: > > I have your family in my family tree! But not with any information that > you > need. I have the same dead ends: > ?? Smith married Abagail ?? > Obviously, they were married before 1806, when Norman was born. That > marriage could have happened anywhere. We need more clues. > Have you found them on any census? > > Do you know where Norman, their son, was born? > > Joyce > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Does anyone have any information on Frank Marthage (Martoccio) who lived in Utica in the 1930's? He apparently does in 1937 in Los Angeles...was wondering if there were any obituaries or family history available. Thank you. Susan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
I have your family in my family tree! But not with any information that you need. I have the same dead ends: ?? Smith married Abagail ?? Obviously, they were married before 1806, when Norman was born. That marriage could have happened anywhere. We need more clues. Have you found them on any census? Do you know where Norman, their son, was born? Joyce ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
James (1811-1876) and Lucy Cushman (1812-1872) Smith lived in West Branch. The following Lee area families are connected to this Smith family: REIGLER,BUTTON, WINDELSPECHT, MORAT, OLCOTT, GRISWELL/GRISWOLD, CUSHMAN, GILLETTE, EVANS. I have been unable to determine who the father of James Smith was. James' mother was Abagail (maiden name unknown) born between 1780 and 1790 . She married Jared Olcott after her first husband died. Abagail and Mr. Smith had the following known children: Norman Smith (1806-1865), Ephraim B. (1807-after 1860) and James.
Sorry to reply so late; I just noticed the Richards reference looking back through old postings. I'm looking for John Richards who was born in Wales and died about 1840-1850, I believe at Utica, New York. When his daughter Jane Elizabeth (aka Jennie) was "quite young." His wife Elizabeth and family moved to Ticonderoga, NY where they are listed in the 1850 census. Elizabeths obituary palces the marriage in Johnsburg in 1830. I have a sketchy reference to a John Richards who worked on the Erie canal. Would you have an idea of what church the Welsh would have attended? Jennie was a member of the Baptist church in Ticonderoga until her marriage when she joined her husband in the Episcopal church. Mike On Tuesday 09 January 2007 21:44, steven haught wrote: > HI, > > I haven't listed my Oneida Co families in a while. I am looking for > Mott, Shear, Brower, Billings, Ufford, Rice, Grave, Searls, Harger, > Hansberger (?), Campbell, Moffitt, Fox, Hitchcock, Button, Sterling, > Swanker, Butler, Olcott, (Ulcutt), O'Neal, Starr, Washburn, Tracey, > Richards, Martin, Evans, Clover, Sweatman, Sales, Bartlett, Byan(Byam). > > My Mott, and Brower families first showed up in Lee @ 1820 and the > Shear line in Floyd as early as 1814. > > I have a great deal of information to share. > > Debbie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
NEW HARTFORD OPENED A NEW PUBLIC LIBRARY ON OXFORD ROAD IN 1999. ----- Original Message ----- From: <khardersittel@cox.net> To: <NYONEIDA@rootsweb.com> Cc: <nyoneida-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: [NYONEIDA] New Hartford Public Library and Historical Society forresources > Re: New Hartford newspapers. I lived there until the 1980s, and I don't > recall New Hartford having one. > > Have you tried to contact the New Hartford Public Library? > They might be able to lead you in the right direction. > http://www.newhartfordpubliclibrary.org/History.html > There is also the Historical Society - > http://www.newhartfordhistory.org/ > > Good luck! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
New Hartford is covered by the Utica Observer-Dispatch, the only Utica newspaper remaining. The Utica Public Library has the all the Utica newspapers on microfilm going back into the late 19th century. Steve -----Original Message----- From: nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of khardersittel@cox.net Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 9:26 AM To: NYONEIDA@rootsweb.com Cc: nyoneida-request@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYONEIDA] New Hartford Public Library and Historical Society forresources Re: New Hartford newspapers. I lived there until the 1980s, and I don't recall New Hartford having one. Have you tried to contact the New Hartford Public Library? They might be able to lead you in the right direction. http://www.newhartfordpubliclibrary.org/History.html There is also the Historical Society - http://www.newhartfordhistory.org/ Good luck! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Re: New Hartford newspapers. I lived there until the 1980s, and I don't recall New Hartford having one. Have you tried to contact the New Hartford Public Library? They might be able to lead you in the right direction. http://www.newhartfordpubliclibrary.org/History.html There is also the Historical Society - http://www.newhartfordhistory.org/ Good luck!
Hello Try the New York Newspaper Project at http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/nygcty.htm New Hartford is near Utica NY (a suburb) Pat
I'm looking for a marriage record for Nell or Nellie Burr born, I believe, 3 January 1860 in Boonville, the daughter of Isaac BURR also of Boonville. He was a local grocer and was still alive in 1908. At that time Nell appears to have been living in Manhattan, New York with her husband, whose name I would like to discover. Unfortunately all the marriage records I could find on line for Boonville are well before or after the time she most likely married (1880-90). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sabra in Los Angeles ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
This might help you, The Utica Observer Dispatch http://tinyurl.com/ynp8vz Lower left had side -contact us. John S Wilkinson Rome, NY -----Original Message----- From: nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andrea Welter Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 1:30 PM To: NYONEIDA@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYONEIDA] New Hartford newspapers I was hoping to find out if there are New Hartford newspapers from 1974 available on microfilm. If so, what is the name of the branch? If possible I might request through Inter Library Loan or if research & copy fees are reasonable use their services. Thanks! Andrea ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I was hoping to find out if there are New Hartford newspapers from 1974 available on microfilm. If so, what is the name of the branch? If possible I might request through Inter Library Loan or if research & copy fees are reasonable use their services. Thanks! Andrea
Thanks to all who provided suggestions for further research! It will take some time to followup all the leads. A couple of updates.... At 09:55 AM 6/20/07, Frank Bax wrote: >1850 US Census - town of Florence >William 42, Ann 39, Arthur 12, William E 9, John W 5, Charles R 2 > >1860 US Census - town of Camden; Florence Post Office >William 53, Ann 51, Arthur J 22, Edwin J 18, John W 15, Charles R 13, Mary >8, Josephine 3, Elizabeth 84 (boarder). I found cemetery transcription of son Arthur (parents named on stone) in 1886 (age 28) near St. Mary's. I found something interesting in a LOOMIS household in 1870 Florence: Ancil 35, Ann 30, Lizzie 9, Minnie 6, Jennie 3, Annie 2; John James 55, Elizabeth James 95. If Elizabeth is the same lady staying with William in 1950, then I wonder if Elizabeth might be mother of John and William? If so, then maiden name of Ann Loomis might be JAMES? This webpage seems to think so: http://www.jenforum.net/loomis/messages/2228.html Any Loomis/James researchers in this group? Where might we find evidence of the Mar1859 Loomis-James marriage? The entire posting seems to be extracted from another source, anyone know what it is? Frank
HUBBARD, SCHUYLER UTICA NY-33-19-323 Interesting that there was another person with Schuyler as first name.
I'll run these names through what books I have, Patti. It will be a week or so...company's a-comin. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen" <pattitwirler@comcast.net> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] local ? > Hi Jan, > I have some questions for you. I am in Portland, OR, which is just about > as > far from Oneida Co, NY as you can get. <G> I have been doing genealogy > for > over 35 years and both my parents have ancestors from the same place. I > have researched in Salt Lake several times as well. > > I have just not had good luck in Oneida County and have used the websites, > written to libraries etc. I hope to be able to do research in person after > I > retire in a few years. > > Here is my question for you. Where do you think I should go from here? > These are my brick walls. > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Carlow/Carlo H. LILLY (any spelling) b abt 1800 "New England", d aft 1830 > and bef 1840- lived Camden, Oneida, NY- 1830 Annsville census index as > Carlow SILLY. > > Wife, Wealthy Elizabeth LADD b abt 1808 Oneida Co, NY, d 1847 Henry Co, IL > > She married 2/h Austin Hill & don't know if they had children together or > not. She was widow Wealthy Hill by 1847 > > *2 young sons left home after the marriage in NY. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Wealthy LADD'S parents were Jeremiah LADD b 1785 CT, d 1855 Oneida Co, NY > > wife- Mary FRANKS b 1786 Mohawk Valley, NY, d 1859 Oneida Co, NY > (daughter of Henry/Heinrich FRANKS) > > 1820 Oneida Census- Boonsville, NY > 1830-1850 " Camden, NY > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Elijah RANSOM (any spelling) b 1790 (NY or MA), d 1869 KS > (1820 Oneida Co census- Vienna) > 1830 " " > 1840 " > > wife- Mary DUNTON b 1793 Roxbury, MA, d 1849 Ogle Co, IL > children: > Elijah Jr b 1820 Vienna > Schuyler > Mary > Thomas b 1827 > Martha > Bradley Varnum > Ira b 1840 Florence > > *are they related to SCHUYLER, BRADLEY, VARNUM? > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Thomas RANSOM b abt 1776 MA, d 1852 Camden, Oneida, NY (7th twp cemetery) > wife Sarah- at least 4 children > > Ira RANSOM b abt 1782 MA, d 1861 Camden, Oneida, NY (7th twp cemetrey) > wife Eleanor- at least 2 children > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Mary DUNTON was daughter of Samuel DUNTON b abt 1750 MA & Mary RHODES b > abt > 1750 RI > > DUNTON ancestors in Oneida Co, NY > Bernard, Varnum d 1872 Vienna, Daniel, Abner, Winslow, Thomas, Samuel, > William Rhodes, Benjamin, John, Joseph > > RHODES ancestors also in Oneida Co, NY > Anthony, Daniel, John, Nicholas- 1800, 1810 > Benjamin, James, James A, Nicholas, Reuben, Scon, Stephen G.- 1820 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > As you can see, I am missing a lot of information that should be in Oneida > Co, NY-- > marriage dates, places, death dates, cemetery records, > > I need to link Elijah RANSOM with Thomas & Ira RANSOM - probably brothers > > Who was Austin HILL and where can I find information about his 2nd > marriage > etc.? > > None of these people made it into history or biography books but some > lived > there for up to 40 years. > > I just don't know where to look next so thought you might have some > suggestions. > > thanks very much, > Patti > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I can't decide whether Schuyler was such a historic name in NY and people named their children or if my family may be related through an unnamed female relative. Since we are unable to identify the parents of Elijah RANSOM, I have speculated about his mother's name. father- Elijah/Elias/Eliahu ?? RANSOM mother- perhaps Martha BRADLEY or Martha SCHUYLER???? Other family name is VARNUM - probably from maternal grandmother's side (Mary DUNTON'S mother, Mary RHODES of RI) Any thoughts on this? Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: "TheFamilyTree" <thefamilytree@gmail.com> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: [NYONEIDA] In Utica, Oneida, there was a Schuyler HUBBARD > HUBBARD, SCHUYLER UTICA NY-33-19-323 > > Interesting that there was another person with Schuyler as first name. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I live in Camden, Oneida Co, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen" <pattitwirler@comcast.net> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:22 AM Subject: [NYONEIDA] local ? > Is anyone on this list local? I have a question or two so please let me > know. > thanks, > Patti > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi Jan, I have some questions for you. I am in Portland, OR, which is just about as far from Oneida Co, NY as you can get. <G> I have been doing genealogy for over 35 years and both my parents have ancestors from the same place. I have researched in Salt Lake several times as well. I have just not had good luck in Oneida County and have used the websites, written to libraries etc. I hope to be able to do research in person after I retire in a few years. Here is my question for you. Where do you think I should go from here? These are my brick walls. -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlow/Carlo H. LILLY (any spelling) b abt 1800 "New England", d aft 1830 and bef 1840- lived Camden, Oneida, NY- 1830 Annsville census index as Carlow SILLY. Wife, Wealthy Elizabeth LADD b abt 1808 Oneida Co, NY, d 1847 Henry Co, IL She married 2/h Austin Hill & don't know if they had children together or not. She was widow Wealthy Hill by 1847 *2 young sons left home after the marriage in NY. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wealthy LADD'S parents were Jeremiah LADD b 1785 CT, d 1855 Oneida Co, NY wife- Mary FRANKS b 1786 Mohawk Valley, NY, d 1859 Oneida Co, NY (daughter of Henry/Heinrich FRANKS) 1820 Oneida Census- Boonsville, NY 1830-1850 " Camden, NY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elijah RANSOM (any spelling) b 1790 (NY or MA), d 1869 KS (1820 Oneida Co census- Vienna) 1830 " " 1840 " wife- Mary DUNTON b 1793 Roxbury, MA, d 1849 Ogle Co, IL children: Elijah Jr b 1820 Vienna Schuyler Mary Thomas b 1827 Martha Bradley Varnum Ira b 1840 Florence *are they related to SCHUYLER, BRADLEY, VARNUM? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas RANSOM b abt 1776 MA, d 1852 Camden, Oneida, NY (7th twp cemetery) wife Sarah- at least 4 children Ira RANSOM b abt 1782 MA, d 1861 Camden, Oneida, NY (7th twp cemetrey) wife Eleanor- at least 2 children -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mary DUNTON was daughter of Samuel DUNTON b abt 1750 MA & Mary RHODES b abt 1750 RI DUNTON ancestors in Oneida Co, NY Bernard, Varnum d 1872 Vienna, Daniel, Abner, Winslow, Thomas, Samuel, William Rhodes, Benjamin, John, Joseph RHODES ancestors also in Oneida Co, NY Anthony, Daniel, John, Nicholas- 1800, 1810 Benjamin, James, James A, Nicholas, Reuben, Scon, Stephen G.- 1820 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As you can see, I am missing a lot of information that should be in Oneida Co, NY-- marriage dates, places, death dates, cemetery records, I need to link Elijah RANSOM with Thomas & Ira RANSOM - probably brothers Who was Austin HILL and where can I find information about his 2nd marriage etc.? None of these people made it into history or biography books but some lived there for up to 40 years. I just don't know where to look next so thought you might have some suggestions. thanks very much, Patti
I am Patti John S Wilkinson Rome, NY -----Original Message----- From: nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:23 AM To: nyoneida@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYONEIDA] local ? Is anyone on this list local? I have a question or two so please let me know. thanks, Patti ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message