Neal, no truer words were said-the pipeline. That was funny. On the fultonhistory site, I was able to follow my Irish drunken :~) ancestors through most of their lives. I had no idea. My grandmother never said a word. The fultonhistory site of Utica newspapers said it all. Brawls, falling down drunk, put in jail for lack of being able to pay the fines. Hard to believe but the newspaper articles didn't lie. A few of my Irish ancestors, slugged a cop while being arrested and taken to jail. Oh, by the Way, this was a female! Mercy me. Deanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Carrier" <nfcarrier@gmail.com> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] Irish/Utica > Hi Deanna, > When you brought this subject up a week ago or so, I remembered this about > the Varick Street site but couldn't find the original article to post. So, > today's story was timely. > I would imagine that one benifit of > locating to Varick Street is the close proximity to the brewery. > They'll probably run a pipeline from there to any Irish pubs they open > up down > there. :-) > Neal > > > On 12/6/07, Deanna Smith <dsmith57701@adelphia.net> wrote: >> >> Hi. Neal. This is great news. Utica is my hometown and I know the Varick >> St. area very well. I think St. Patrick's Church would be considered sacred >> ground. It was a beautiful church. >> Please give us updates. I'm excited. My Irish Utica ancestors are: Dun, >> McGough, Haley >> >> >> Deanna >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > "If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they > went." > -Will Rogers > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Deanna, When you brought this subject up a week ago or so, I remembered this about the Varick Street site but couldn't find the original article to post. So, today's story was timely. I would imagine that one benifit of locating to Varick Street is the close proximity to the brewery. They'll probably run a pipeline from there to any Irish pubs they open up down there. :-) Neal On 12/6/07, Deanna Smith <dsmith57701@adelphia.net> wrote: > > Hi. Neal. This is great news. Utica is my hometown and I know the Varick > St. area very well. I think St. Patrick's Church would be considered sacred > ground. It was a beautiful church. > Please give us updates. I'm excited. My Irish Utica ancestors are: Dun, > McGough, Haley > > > Deanna > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." -Will Rogers

I tried this Fulton site and it is great- especially for me here in Fl.- I found the story for the year of 1944 when my mother and sisters all had Polio and it closed the schools- 4 of the 6 siblings had polio and the other 2 were quarentined at home- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Hillenbrand" <nygenes@gmail.com> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] obit - Mary Clarke Dawes > Probably when you click on the link directly that I sent then you don't > get > the highlighted search term. > > Try it by using the search box on the main page and use the "exact phrase" > search box method. That will bring up a whole lot of hits and you will > have > to find the issue and page you want. Then when you click on that specific > link the item will be highlighted. > > It's a miracle that these serches work at all because the printing and > micrifilming process makes some of the papers almost unreadable. > > Keep trying. > > > On Dec 5, 2007 11:09 PM, Sue Myers <sue8526@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> Thank you, but you must be better at it than I. Couldn't find anything. >> Help. Sue >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Dick Hillenbrand >> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:23 PM >> To: nyoneida@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] obit - Mary Clarke Dawes >> >> Sue, Have you searched the online newspapers at www.fultonhistory.com? >> I >> just did a quick check on the search phrase "charles dawes" and found a >> lot >> of hits around Clinton, NY in various Utica newspapers around that time >> period. >> >> You might want to check all of them out, but here is an obit for a >> Charles >> DAWES in 1905. >> >> http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton%20Historical%20Photos/Newspapers/Utica%20NY% >> >> 20Sunday%20Tribune/Utica%20NY%20Sunday%20Tribune%201904-1905.pdf/Utica%20NY% >> >> 20Sunday%20Tribune%201904-1905%20-%200574.pdf#xml=http://fultonhistory.com/d >> >> tSearch/dtisapi6.dll?cmd=getpdfhits&u=ffffffffd14003b4&DocId=2677403&Index=I >> >> %3a%2fFulton%20Historical&HitCount=2&hits=3c4+3c5+&SearchForm=c%3a%5cinetpub >> %5cwwwroot%5cFulton%5fNew%5fform%2ehtml&.pdf >> >> Dick Hillenbrand >> >> >> On Dec 5, 2007 10:05 PM, Sue Myers <sue8526@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> > I am looking for the obit of Mary Clark Dawes,(father John Clark), b >> > 8/1822 >> > England, died 12/6/1900 Oneida County, married Charles Dawes. >> > >> > Sue Myers >> > >> > - >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Dick Hillenbrand >> Upstate New York Genealogy >> website and blog: www.unyg.com >> member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Dick Hillenbrand > Upstate New York Genealogy > website and blog: www.unyg.com > member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Neal Thanks for the great news. My niece belongs to this Great American Irish Festival Group and works at the Festival in Herkimer every year. She is a native of Utica/New Hartford and I will have to chat with her and keep up with this Project as it moves along.. I live in Upstate NY and had plans to attend the Festival this year until my husband became seriously ill. I hope to go there next year as I understand it compares to Maxville, Ontario, Canada where I attended many Festivals. I love the Games and the Music at these Festivals. This Great American Irish Festival Group appears to be very strong and growing. It would be great to have their Cultural Center located on Varick St. in the Center of Utica (close to the Center of the State) as it will enhance the opportunity for anyone interested in understanding their ethnic Irish background, its culture, history and eventually give an opportunity to people researching their own Genealogy. Cheers Pat R

Neal Carrier <nfcarrier@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Deanna, When you brought this subject up a week ago or so, I remembered this about the Varick Street site but couldn't find the original article to post. So, today's story was timely. I would imagine that one benifit of locating to Varick Street is the close proximity to the brewery. They'll probably run a pipeline from there to any Irish pubs they open up down there. :-) Neal F. X. Matts? What are you, German? (as Donald Sutherland said in "The Dirty Dozen") :/) Mike

Hi. Neal. This is great news. Utica is my hometown and I know the Varick St. area very well. I think St. Patrick's Church would be considered sacred ground. It was a beautiful church. Please give us updates. I'm excited. My Irish Utica ancestors are: Dun, McGough, Haley Deanna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Carrier" <nfcarrier@gmail.com> To: <NYONEIDA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:23 AM Subject: [NYONEIDA] Irish/Utica Utica OKs land sale for Irish center Dec 06, 2007 @ 06:35 AM By RENEE GAMELA Observer-Dispatch UTICA — The Mohawk Valley Irish Cultural Center could open in West Utica by St. Patrick's Day 2009, organizers said. The Common Council Wednesday night voted unanimously to sell a parking lot on Columbia and Cooper streets to the Great American Irish Festival Inc. The project could cost about $2 million, organization President Matt Sullivan said. "We hope that our project is something that enhances Varick Street in terms of the entire environment down there," Sullivan said. Plans for the center call for a large gathering room, an Irish pub, a library and office space for several Irish groups. The lot is where the former St. Patrick's Roman Catholic Church was founded in the 1850s, and is a place organizers refer to as sacred ground. Sullivan said his group is satisfied with the council's approval, and the Great American Irish Festival wants to be a good neighbor to existing businesses in the Varick Street area. More than 70 people filled the council chambers Wednesday night in support of the proposal. Some expressed concerns about parking in the city's growing Brewery District, but no one was against construction of the Irish cultural center. Roger Doyle, co-owner of Roger's Coffee Shop on Varick Street, implored the council to approve the sale of the parking lot. Development such as an Irish cultural center is something that should be welcomed, he said. "Why can't we be the mold for someone else?" Doyle said, in reference to comparisons between Varick Street and Syracuse's Armory Square. "Why can't someone say 'we want to be like Utica?'" Common Council member Rocco Giruzzi, R-at-large, told those in the chamber prior to the vote that he would support the measure. Issues such as a lack of parking, could always be raised, but turning away development isn't proactive, he said. "Parking is a problem," Giruzzi said, "but to me, that's a good problem." The Irish festival started in 2004 to celebrate Irish heritage and raise money to construct an Irish cultural center in the Mohawk Valley, Sullivan said. By approving the $50,000 sale of the lot at 623 Columbia St. and 616 Cooper St., the council is helping the group achieve its goal, he said. This year, festival organizers said about 40,000 people attended the event that takes place the last weekend in July at the Herkimer County Fairgrounds in Frankfort. The building will be architecturally representative of a building that would be found in Ireland, Sullivan said. -- "If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." -Will Rogers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You're welcome and thanks for telling me. Bruce Edith Szatko wrote: > Thanks for trying, I appreciate it. I did get the obit from someone who also > answered my question. Thanks again, Edith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Coyne" <coynegen@westelcom.com> > To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 7:29 AM > Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] obit > > > >> Haven't made it to Rome for the obit yet because of weather. Have you >> tried the Jarvis Public Library web site? >> >> Bruce Coyne >> >> >> Edith Szatko wrote: >> >>> I am looking for an obit from the Rome Daily Sentinel for : Sister >>> Marjory Branierd who died 12 April, 2001, the obit was in the paper of 16 >>> April, 2001. I would appreciate anyone to e-mail me the obit. Thank you >>> so much. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Utica OKs land sale for Irish center Dec 06, 2007 @ 06:35 AM By RENEE GAMELA Observer-Dispatch UTICA — The Mohawk Valley Irish Cultural Center could open in West Utica by St. Patrick's Day 2009, organizers said. The Common Council Wednesday night voted unanimously to sell a parking lot on Columbia and Cooper streets to the Great American Irish Festival Inc. The project could cost about $2 million, organization President Matt Sullivan said. "We hope that our project is something that enhances Varick Street in terms of the entire environment down there," Sullivan said. Plans for the center call for a large gathering room, an Irish pub, a library and office space for several Irish groups. The lot is where the former St. Patrick's Roman Catholic Church was founded in the 1850s, and is a place organizers refer to as sacred ground. Sullivan said his group is satisfied with the council's approval, and the Great American Irish Festival wants to be a good neighbor to existing businesses in the Varick Street area. More than 70 people filled the council chambers Wednesday night in support of the proposal. Some expressed concerns about parking in the city's growing Brewery District, but no one was against construction of the Irish cultural center. Roger Doyle, co-owner of Roger's Coffee Shop on Varick Street, implored the council to approve the sale of the parking lot. Development such as an Irish cultural center is something that should be welcomed, he said. "Why can't we be the mold for someone else?" Doyle said, in reference to comparisons between Varick Street and Syracuse's Armory Square. "Why can't someone say 'we want to be like Utica?'" Common Council member Rocco Giruzzi, R-at-large, told those in the chamber prior to the vote that he would support the measure. Issues such as a lack of parking, could always be raised, but turning away development isn't proactive, he said. "Parking is a problem," Giruzzi said, "but to me, that's a good problem." The Irish festival started in 2004 to celebrate Irish heritage and raise money to construct an Irish cultural center in the Mohawk Valley, Sullivan said. By approving the $50,000 sale of the lot at 623 Columbia St. and 616 Cooper St., the council is helping the group achieve its goal, he said. This year, festival organizers said about 40,000 people attended the event that takes place the last weekend in July at the Herkimer County Fairgrounds in Frankfort. The building will be architecturally representative of a building that would be found in Ireland, Sullivan said. -- "If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." -Will Rogers

Probably when you click on the link directly that I sent then you don't get the highlighted search term. Try it by using the search box on the main page and use the "exact phrase" search box method. That will bring up a whole lot of hits and you will have to find the issue and page you want. Then when you click on that specific link the item will be highlighted. It's a miracle that these serches work at all because the printing and micrifilming process makes some of the papers almost unreadable. Keep trying. On Dec 5, 2007 11:09 PM, Sue Myers <sue8526@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Thank you, but you must be better at it than I. Couldn't find anything. > Help. Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Dick Hillenbrand > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:23 PM > To: nyoneida@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] obit - Mary Clarke Dawes > > Sue, Have you searched the online newspapers at www.fultonhistory.com? I > just did a quick check on the search phrase "charles dawes" and found a > lot > of hits around Clinton, NY in various Utica newspapers around that time > period. > > You might want to check all of them out, but here is an obit for a Charles > DAWES in 1905. > > http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton%20Historical%20Photos/Newspapers/Utica%20NY% > > 20Sunday%20Tribune/Utica%20NY%20Sunday%20Tribune%201904-1905.pdf/Utica%20NY% > > 20Sunday%20Tribune%201904-1905%20-%200574.pdf#xml=http://fultonhistory.com/d > > tSearch/dtisapi6.dll?cmd=getpdfhits&u=ffffffffd14003b4&DocId=2677403&Index=I > > %3a%2fFulton%20Historical&HitCount=2&hits=3c4+3c5+&SearchForm=c%3a%5cinetpub > %5cwwwroot%5cFulton%5fNew%5fform%2ehtml&.pdf > > Dick Hillenbrand > > > On Dec 5, 2007 10:05 PM, Sue Myers <sue8526@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > I am looking for the obit of Mary Clark Dawes,(father John Clark), b > > 8/1822 > > England, died 12/6/1900 Oneida County, married Charles Dawes. > > > > Sue Myers > > > > - > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Dick Hillenbrand > Upstate New York Genealogy > website and blog: www.unyg.com > member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dick Hillenbrand Upstate New York Genealogy website and blog: www.unyg.com member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG)

Thank you, but you must be better at it than I. Couldn't find anything. Help. Sue -----Original Message----- From: nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dick Hillenbrand Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:23 PM To: nyoneida@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] obit - Mary Clarke Dawes Sue, Have you searched the online newspapers at www.fultonhistory.com? I just did a quick check on the search phrase "charles dawes" and found a lot of hits around Clinton, NY in various Utica newspapers around that time period. You might want to check all of them out, but here is an obit for a Charles DAWES in 1905. http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton%20Historical%20Photos/Newspapers/Utica%20NY% 20Sunday%20Tribune/Utica%20NY%20Sunday%20Tribune%201904-1905.pdf/Utica%20NY% 20Sunday%20Tribune%201904-1905%20-%200574.pdf#xml=http://fultonhistory.com/d tSearch/dtisapi6.dll?cmd=getpdfhits&u=ffffffffd14003b4&DocId=2677403&Index=I %3a%2fFulton%20Historical&HitCount=2&hits=3c4+3c5+&SearchForm=c%3a%5cinetpub %5cwwwroot%5cFulton%5fNew%5fform%2ehtml&.pdf Dick Hillenbrand On Dec 5, 2007 10:05 PM, Sue Myers <sue8526@bellsouth.net> wrote: > I am looking for the obit of Mary Clark Dawes,(father John Clark), b > 8/1822 > England, died 12/6/1900 Oneida County, married Charles Dawes. > > Sue Myers > > - > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dick Hillenbrand Upstate New York Genealogy website and blog: www.unyg.com member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue, Have you searched the online newspapers at www.fultonhistory.com? I just did a quick check on the search phrase "charles dawes" and found a lot of hits around Clinton, NY in various Utica newspapers around that time period. You might want to check all of them out, but here is an obit for a Charles DAWES in 1905. http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton%20Historical%20Photos/Newspapers/Utica%20NY%20Sunday%20Tribune/Utica%20NY%20Sunday%20Tribune%201904-1905.pdf/Utica%20NY%20Sunday%20Tribune%201904-1905%20-%200574.pdf#xml=http://fultonhistory.com/dtSearch/dtisapi6.dll?cmd=getpdfhits&u=ffffffffd14003b4&DocId=2677403&Index=I%3a%2fFulton%20Historical&HitCount=2&hits=3c4+3c5+&SearchForm=c%3a%5cinetpub%5cwwwroot%5cFulton%5fNew%5fform%2ehtml&.pdf Dick Hillenbrand On Dec 5, 2007 10:05 PM, Sue Myers <sue8526@bellsouth.net> wrote: > I am looking for the obit of Mary Clark Dawes,(father John Clark), b > 8/1822 > England, died 12/6/1900 Oneida County, married Charles Dawes. > > Sue Myers > > - > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dick Hillenbrand Upstate New York Genealogy website and blog: www.unyg.com member: Association of Professional Genealogists (APG)

I am looking for the obit of Mary Clark Dawes,(father John Clark), b 8/1822 England, died 12/6/1900 Oneida County, married Charles Dawes. Sue Myers -

Thanks for trying, I appreciate it. I did get the obit from someone who also answered my question. Thanks again, Edith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Coyne" <coynegen@westelcom.com> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] obit > Haven't made it to Rome for the obit yet because of weather. Have you > tried the Jarvis Public Library web site? > > Bruce Coyne > > > Edith Szatko wrote: >> I am looking for an obit from the Rome Daily Sentinel for : Sister >> Marjory Branierd who died 12 April, 2001, the obit was in the paper of 16 >> April, 2001. I would appreciate anyone to e-mail me the obit. Thank you >> so much. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dick: I would like to leave a positive comment on your blog site but haven't figured out how to get to the spot where I input a message. i have never used a blog before so am not familiar with the process. Betty Bellous

Does anyone have any information about this family? We believe him to be connected to the Carleys of Fairfield, CT; Dutchess Co., NY; Ballstown, Camden and Palatine,NY, pre-1820, later in Hector. Was he or his father married to Angelica Quackenbush? Judy Schreiber **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

On Monday 03 December 2007 12:34, Steven Knight wrote: > History of Trenton, NY > FROM: Gazetteer and Business Directory > OF Oneida County, N. Y. For 1869. > Compiled and Published By Hamilton Child, Syracuse, NY 1862 > (note the mention of both the "town and then the "village" of Trenton) > > Trenton (p. v.) was incorporated April 19, 1819, as "Oldenbarneveldt," and > changed to Trenton, April 26, 1833. Its first name was in honor of a Dutch > patriot; and statesman, who died upon the scaffold in. 1619, aged 82 years. > It is situated north of the center of the town and contains four churches, > viz., Methodist, Unitarian, Presbyterian and Welsh Congregationalist, and a > population of about 300. > Thanks to all for the responses; you've helped firm my infiormation. I'm more sure that the Welsh Richards' I'm looking for were Congregationalists, for one thing. There's some Baptist and Episcopalian involvement (make up your minds, would ya!). One married a woman from Illinois of Dutch ancestry- doesn't mean much, but an interesting coincidence On Monday 03 December 2007 10:05, Alicedenny@aol.com wrote: > We have letters from my Saltar/Mappa/Benjamin Walker ancestors/relatives > written from "Trenton" from 1800 to around 1860. > Got excited about the Walker reference until I checked my notes and realized that one of my Richards' married Henry J. Watcher. > We have a potential problem, too. I live in Jefferson City, > Tennessee now (came back to my hometown to retire) yet we > are rarely confused with the capitol of Missouri - Jefferson City! > There is a major difference in size. I have ancestors from the village of Keesville, NY which lies on the Clinton/Essex county border. On the Clinton side, it's in the town of Ausable; on the Essex side it's in the town of Chesterfield. They seem to move freely between towns and counties from census to census, wether from actual moves or quirks of the census enumerators I haven't figured out. Anywho, if it were all nice and neat, I'd have Great Great... Grandparents Adam and Eve (who were Dutch Quakers) in my chart by now, and then what would I do for amusement? Thanks again, Mike

On Tuesday 20 November 2007 17:33, Edith Szatko wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Edith Szatko > To: nyoneida@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:26 PM > Subject: obit > > > I am looking for an obit from the Rome Daily Sentinel for : Sister Marjory > Branierd who died 12 April, 2001, the obit was in the paper of 16 April, > 2001. I would appreciate anyone to e-mail me the obit. Thank you so much. > This is a bit off-topic as it won't help you find a Rome Sentinel obituary from 2001, but... let's call it shifted-topic. The Northern New York Library Network (the equivalent of MidYork for that region) has scanned many of the newspapers from Plattsburgh down to Glens falls and West to Watertown. There is pretty regular coverage from 1880's to the early 1970's with less regular coverage as early as 1810. It's a great source for births/weddings/obits. It's worth taking a shot at searching for your Central New York names as there may have had business dealings or more distant relatives throughout the state. You often find little blurbs like "John Smith is visiting relatives in Utica" or "John Smith of Utica is in town on business." The site is http://news.nnyln.net. It would be great to have the same thing done through MidYork. I suspect we could drum up some volunteers to do the scanning. Maybe we can wheedle the Rome Sentinel and Utica OD into ponying up their archives in the process. Mike

And I found that the Rome Historical Society, with absolutely no notification beforehand, wants a fee for looking up a simple fact. I appreciate, as I believe many subscribers do, a statement about possible charges *prior* to performing a requested service, whether simple or more complex. GMF A word in a dictionary is very much like a car in a mammoth motorshow full of potential, but temporarily inactive. -Anthony Burgess -- genbug <genbugg@gmail.com> wrote: Jervis Library charges $26 for an obituary copy even if you know the exact date. You might try the volunteer for Oneida Co. at Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness: http://www.raogk.org/newyork2.htm On 12/2/07, Edith Szatko <edith_k1@comcast.net> wrote: > > What is the Jarvis Web Site? Is it possible that I can get an obit there? > Would appreciate the address for it. Thanks. I know how bad the weather is > as I get on the local paper every day. I sure don't miss it!. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Coyne" <coynegen@westelcom.com> > To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 7:29 AM > Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] obit > > > > Haven't made it to Rome for the obit yet because of weather. Have you > > tried the Jarvis Public Library web site? > > > > Bruce Coyne > > > > > > Edith Szatko wrote: > >> I am looking for an obit from the Rome Daily Sentinel for : Sister > >> Marjory Branierd who died 12 April, 2001, the obit was in the paper of > 16 > >> April, 2001. I would appreciate anyone to e-mail me the obit. Thank you > >> so much. > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

History of Trenton, NY FROM: Gazetteer and Business Directory OF Oneida County, N. Y. For 1869. Compiled and Published By Hamilton Child, Syracuse, NY 1862 (note the mention of both the "town and then the "village" of Trenton) TRENTON was formed from Schuyler (Herkimer Co.), March 24, 1799. It lies upon the west bank of West Canada Creek, near the center of the east border of the County. The surface rises from the Creek from 400 to 600 feet, and from the summits it spreads out into an upland, broken by ridges of drift. Nine Mile Creek flows through the south, and Cincinnati Creek through the north part. The soil is a sandy and clayey loam, well adapted to grazing. The celebrated Trenton Falls, upon West Canada Creek, are in this town. This place of resort for pleasure seekers was first brought to notice by Rev. John Sherman, who, in 1822, erected the first hotel for visitors at this place. The magnitude of the falls does not excite so great an interest as the peculiar wildness of the surrounding country. The creek flows through a ravine worn in the Trenton limestone to the depth of from seventy to 200 hundred feet. The sides of this ravine are nearly perpendicular, and the water descends in a series of cascades a total depth of about 200 feet in the space of half a mile. The highest fall is forty-eight feet. The Indians called the falls Ka-na-ta-dork, "brown water," and Kuy-a-kora, "slanting water." Mr. W. Perkins has recently fitted up a commodious hotel and boarding house on one of the most delightful sites in the vicinity of the falls. Trenton (p. v.) was incorporated April 19, 1819, as "Oldenbarneveldt," and changed to Trenton, April 26, 1833. Its first name was in honor of a Dutch patriot; and statesman, who died upon the scaffold in. 1619, aged 82 years. It is situated north of the center of the town and contains four churches, viz., Methodist, Unitarian, Presbyterian and Welsh Congregationalist, and a population of about 300. -----Original Message----- From: nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Earl Joslin Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:27 AM To: nyoneida@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] Geography Quizz: Trenton/Barneveld/Holland Patent It was originally called Oldenbarneveld but is now just Barneveld. See this site for the whole story. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Alicedenny@aol.com> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] Geography Quizz: Trenton/Barneveld/Holland Patent > Thanks for this explanation about the name of Trenton - > but isn't it Oldenbarneveld? > > We have letters from my Saltar/Mappa/Benjamin Walker ancestors/relatives > written from "Trenton" from 1800 to around 1860. > > When was the name changed? > > We have a potential problem, too. I live in Jefferson City, > Tennessee now (came back to my hometown to retire) yet we > are rarely confused with the capitol of Missouri - Jefferson City! > There is a major difference in size. > > Alice Pryor > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It was originally called Oldenbarneveld but is now just Barneveld. See this site for the whole story. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Alicedenny@aol.com> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] Geography Quizz: Trenton/Barneveld/Holland Patent > Thanks for this explanation about the name of Trenton - > but isn't it Oldenbarneveld? > > We have letters from my Saltar/Mappa/Benjamin Walker ancestors/relatives > written from "Trenton" from 1800 to around 1860. > > When was the name changed? > > We have a potential problem, too. I live in Jefferson City, > Tennessee now (came back to my hometown to retire) yet we > are rarely confused with the capitol of Missouri - Jefferson City! > There is a major difference in size. > > Alice Pryor > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message