Dear Newsgroup, Hello and thanks to everyone for answering my messages about Oneida County information. In a recent search of counties across the United States, I came across an Oneida County that is in Idaho. In my last post, the list of Towns in Oneida County, N.Y., Please omit "De Lorme". There may also have been towns that were left off of the list unintentionally. If you would like more information, historical etc., Please consult the world wide web search engine, Yahoo at the URL: http://www.yahoo.com Yahoo! also has an Oneida County Web page at the URL: http://dir.yahoo.com/Regional/U_S__States/New_York/Counties_and_Regions/Onei da_County For Maps of Oneida county: Please continue to the URL: http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=&csz=Oneida+County%2C+New+Yor k%2C+NY&Get+Map=Get+Map There are three main Indian Tribes in New York, They are: The Iriquois Tribe The Mohawk Tribe The Seneca Tribe I am also wondering about finding or making a list of businesses in Oneida County, N.Y. which were in operation during the 1820's. Is Farming part of Oneida County's heritage? I had heard that they were known for their farming. Thanks, Audrey Bowne BOWNE Family researcher Seattle,WA

I saw someone's do this so please excuse me for copying him, but I thought it was a great way to tell people about specific surname mailing lists. (Thanks for the great idea Richard!) It has been sent to the central NY lists and please accept my apologizes if you're on more than one. We also have a surname specific mailing list. It is for Wohleben/Wollaber/Woolaber/Welliver and any other way you can misspell a good German name. :D It has been around for a couple of weeks and contains 20-30 family descendants. It is available to anyone researching this surname and its' variants. Please feel free to pass this along to anyone you know who is researching this surname. If you haven't heard of it, check it out; if you have Howdy Cuz! :D To subscribe send "subscribe" word in message line to WOHLEBEN-L-request@rootsweb.com we would love to have you join. Thanks all for your patience. George H Woliver III george.woliver@snet.net Editor Wohleben/Welliver Cousins International Research Group quarterly newsletter.

Can anyone tell me the name, etc., of the Utica Catholic Church in 1830-1850? Also, would like to know where information about parishioners in that timeframe can be accessed. Thanks Jimmie1941@aol.com

> In 1918 if a child died as an infant, would a death certificate have been > issued? The child is listed in the cemetery as born and died in 1918. I am > curious as to actually birth and death dates and cause of death. Many times the cemetery has records of date of birth and death and the cause. Edwin Ernest Coad III Casselberry, Florida eecoad@iag.net Researching: COAD, CARNE, HARRIS, SWEET, VAUGHAN, BRINKERHOFF, OWEN(S), BOSLEY, HUGHES, WILLIAMS

Audrey wrote: > information sheet on every town in Oneida County. This > will include the town's history, census, city directory(s), schools, > churches, graveyards, businesses, street maps, farms, vital records, > libraries, military, native American tribes, lakes, rivers, railroads, > photographs, list of surnames of those that were born in Oneida Co., a live > contact person, or other, such as an email address of one or more person(s) > who live in each town, a Genealogist who will do searches for a fee, land, > estate, probate, historical timeline, book list, list of ethnic groups of > those living in the town, Great idea! Edwin Ernest Coad III Casselberry, Florida eecoad@iag.net Researching: COAD, CARNE, HARRIS, SWEET, VAUGHAN, BRINKERHOFF, OWEN(S), BOSLEY, HUGHES, WILLIAMS

Good evening: I would like to share information with other descendants of Emil NORD and Kristina NELSON NORD. This couple arrived from Sweden around 1903-1906 (?) settled for a number of years in Jamestown,NY, Kristina died Forrestport,(Oneida Co.) NY late 40's to mid 50's. Would like to hear from any cousins. Lorna June

Melissa, The answer is it should have been. I recently obtained the death certificates from the NY State Dept. of Health for twins who died in Boonville, Oneida Co. in 1898. One lived 3hrs. the other 6hrs. The physician filled out death certificates for each. I also know from searching the index of births, that the physician also filed two birth certificates. The children themselves were not named and are refered to as "infant child" and indexed under the family surname. You can search the NY State vital records indexes at the NY State Archives in Albany or at the National Archives in Manhattan. That will tell you if there are birth and death certificates for the infant you are researching. Or you can risk a couple dollars and apply directly for a death certificate from Albany Hope this helps. Roy p.s. I waited 6 months to NY State Dept. of Health to fill my request even though I supplied them with the exact certificate numbers I wanted. ---------- From: MMille5323@aol.com[SMTP:MMille5323@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 11:15 AM To: NYONEIDA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Death Certificate Question I am hoping a more experienced researcher could answer a death certificate question. In 1918 if a child died as an infant, would a death certificate have been issued? The child is listed in the cemetery as born and died in 1918. I am curious as to actually birth and death dates and cause of death. Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions. Melissa ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== Contact the List Manager at judjack@rocketmail.com or judjack@hotmail.com For List Rules visit http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1006 click on Mailing List Visit the Oneida Co NYGenWeb Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida

For those of us who are interested, this is a fairly complete listing of towns in Oneida County, as follows: Pleasant Valley Paris Stockwell Sauquoit Five Corners Chuckery Corners Sangerfield Farmers Hills Waterville Franklin Springs Brotherstown Clinton Orskeny Falls Kirkland Lloyds Corners Westmoreland Knoxboro Augusta Colemans Mills Forge Hollow Sunset Manor Small Corners Orskany Deansboro Stanwix Heights Mc Connell Corners Stanwix Gibbons Corners New Hartford Hanover Chadwicks Peck Corners Washington Mills Daytonville Attica Lewis Corners Yorkville Hoben Corners Whitestown Paris Station Whitesboro Hubbard Corners Rome Greens Crossing Dix Cassville Bartlet Richfeild Junction Lowell Clayville Goodrich Corners Ludlow Corner Backman Corners North Bridgewater Greenway Corners Mapledale Stooks Corners Bridgewater Vernon Babcock Hill Brewers Corner Hetca Vernon Center Wells Corner Sherrill Thomson Corners Dibbletown Oneida McConnellsville Dams Corners Blossvale Verona Station Tabery Caqurn Corners Pine Hill Durhamville Blennner Corner State Bridge Camden Dunbarton Preston Hill Starks Landing West Dale Paradise Hill Florence Hill Higginsville Florence Verona Beach Empeyville Pine Crest Hamifin Hagers Corners Fourty Six Corners New London Gilmore Churchville Brookfield East Verona Lee Seifert Corners Point Rock Vienna West Branch North Bay Coonrod Long Crossing Elmer Hill Jewell Lake Della Hall Corners Stokes Corners Maple Corners Wright Settlement Elpis Canterberry Hill Hillsboro Westernville Brockway Corners Hawkins Corners Loomis Corners Lee Center Floyd Holland Patent Camroden Deerfield Maynard Riverdale South Trenton Forest Port Station N. Gage Walker Corners Wood hall Divey Corners Alder Creek Mapledale Nichols mills Barreveld Station Bellingertown Trenton Falls Forrest Port Marcy Hawkinsville Stitville Boonville Merrick Corner Redmond Corner Steuben Corners Hulburtville Steuben Valley Dunn Book Barnveld Northwestern Hinkley Carmichael Hill ninety six corners Northwood Big Brook Careys corners East Floyd Anos Siding E. Steuben Hennedaga Prospect De Lorme Woodgate Holiday House Have fun with this!! Thanks, Audrey BOWNE

Audrey's call for a more comprehensive Oneida Co database is a certainly a good one. Much of this data is - or could be - available at the Oneida Co Genweb site. It would seem better to have a coordinated effort. I know the genweb site would relish getting this type of info online. It would be preferable not to duplicate efforts. The contact person for townships is good too. I have often thought it would be an ideal project for local schools history depts to involve students in active research to be placed on county genwebs - perhaps as an extra credit or independent study project. What a great way to involve the young in true historical research and genealogy......

I am hoping a more experienced researcher could answer a death certificate question. In 1918 if a child died as an infant, would a death certificate have been issued? The child is listed in the cemetery as born and died in 1918. I am curious as to actually birth and death dates and cause of death. Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions. Melissa

Dear Newsgroup, We need more comprehensive Oneida County Information. I would like someone to do an information sheet on every town in Oneida County. This will include the town's history, census, city directory(s), schools, churches, graveyards, businesses, street maps, farms, vital records, libraries, military, native american tribes, lakes, rivers, railroads, photographs, list of surnames of those that were born in Oneida Co., a live contact preson, or other, such as an email address of one or more person(s) who live in each town, a Genealogist who will do searches for a fee, land, estate, probate, historical timeline, book list, list of ethnic groups of those living in the town, Could we have an Oneida Co. Reunion? Other Oneida Co. Web & email addresses. Remember Oneida & Herkimer Co's changed boundaries (date ?) I would like this information to be permanent with easy update access. I am Pensylvania Surname BOWNE would like help especially Oneida Co. Thanks, Audrey Bowne

Who were the parents of Daniel PATTEN/PATTON who married Jennie GILMORE, 1793, in Cambridge, Washington Co., NY. They lived Westmoreland, and his will was probated 1837. Jean Gilmore

George GILMORE and spouse Elizabeth BLAIR had 6 children b. near Cambridge, Washington Co., NY., between 1767 and 1784. Three of those children removed to Oneida Co in late 1700's and early 1800's. Jennie GILMORE m. Daniel PATTEN, 1793, moved to Westmoreland. Will probated for Daniel PATTEN, 1837, not mentioning Jennie. When did she died? Where is she buried? Possibly 5 children: Sarah, Mary, Daniel, Elizabeth, & Thomas. Sarah GILMORE m. ??? Watson and moved to Western, NY. This is all that is known. John GILMORE moved to Oneida Co., NY. This is all that is known. I found a John GILMORE m. in Rome, NY, but no date, no spouse named, and not sure if this is the right one. Thanks for any assistance. Jean Gilmore

Thanks Sheila for a link to this most helpful site. Edwin Ernest Coad III Casselberry, Florida eecoad@iag.net Researching: COAD, CARNE, HARRIS, SWEET, VAUGHAN, BRINKERHOFF, OWEN(S), BOSLEY, HUGHES, WILLIAMS

Hello List, Here is my BIG brick wall. I am looking for information on Sarah Randolf (1771-1798) of Oneida Co. Sarah was the first wife of Edward S, Salisbury (born 1765 Gloucester, RI, died 1832 Oneida Co). Edward and Sarah had a daughter, Aphia, born 1793. Edward then married Ada (____) Crowell, widow of a Mr. Crowell, and mother of Sarah Crowell (born 1794), and John Crowell (born 1797). Aphia Salisbury married Gaius Barrett Rich and their daughter Sarah, is my namesake. As Sarah Rich is probably named after her grandmother, Sarah Randolf, I'd like to know anything about her. I understand that a James Randolf was in Oneida Co. about this time and wonder if there is a connection. thanks for any help, Sarah

If you are stuck finding a town name in the USA then try goint to this site: http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html

seek any info on Burch, Keech & Gillett families of Town of Western. Israel, Jr & Sarah Burch Keech, & Jeremiah Jr & Barsheba Allen came from Unadilla, Otsego Co to Town of Western by 1820, where Israel's uncle, Jas Keech and family were already settled. Sarah and Jeremiah ch of Jeremiah & _____ Spencer [sis of Jonathan] Jonathan m as 2nd wife Martha Keech, sis of Jas & Israel Keech; his 1st wife was Ruth Mudge. All these families in Mohawk, Tyron [Montgomery Co] prior to & during Rev. Jonathan, Jeremiah, Israel, Geo & Jas Keech all in Rev! Chas Gillett was also in Mont Co 1790..... Who was father & gf of Freeman Burch, b 1811 & m Almira Gillett? Thanks - Dan [Joyce - got maps and playing with them THANKS! Was main Town map 1874 or 1907? Appears to be the latter - big help .......Dan]

Many thanks to all of you kind folks who sent me the information on the headings of the 1810 Census listings. I am a VERY new member and I can say that this has been the best introduction to a list I have had yet. Wonderful, fast response/ THANKS AGAIN TO ALL Lola Mann Richardson, TX

--part1_d94f525a.2447ef0b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit can't spell either --part1_d94f525a.2447ef0b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Jimmie1941@aol.com From: Jimmie1941@aol.com Full-name: Jimmie1941 Message-ID: <d94f525a.2447ea76@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:20:54 EDT Subject: Monroe-Rogers To: NYONIEDA-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Jimmie1941@aol.com New Subscriber I am seeking information on ROGERS-MONROE Samuel Rogers married Lucinda Lee -- both were from New London, CT born around 1785-1790. They had 2 children, Lucinda Lee (b1807) and Mary (Polly) Rogers (b1812 in Duanesburgh). I have them as members of the first Baptist Church of Whitestown in 1813. Lucinda Lee married Matthew Morgan of the Morgan banking family -- I have extensive records on them. Mary (Polly) married Charles Monroe Sr.(b. Scotland) in about 1828 in Duanesburgh, NY. Charles Monroe, Jr was born in Duanesburgh in 1830: Robert Lee Monroe was born in Utica in 1832. I have extensive records of them living in Utica between 1832 and 1850 from the Utica City Directories. I have indication from the same directories that Charles, Sr died in around 1845. Mary and sons then moved to NY City. I have other extensive records since my direct line comes from Robert Lee. My Holy Grail is Charles who was a stonemason by trade -- looking for his death record, burial location, place of birth in Scotland, etc. I do know he was naturalized in 1828 in Albany -- but the records don't give enough vital information. I have visited Utica and done on-site work on two occasions as well as consulting with the local historical society -- they told me the local public cemetery was relocated and records sketchy at best (none for him). Am getting ready to go to Scotland at the end of May and would really like to know where he was born. Have checked many available records (wills, surrogates, etc) to no avail. If anyone has advice or information, please e-mail me. Sorry for the long message. Marilyn Monroe Amodeo jimmie1941@aol.com --part1_d94f525a.2447ef0b_boundary--

Hi, >From a 1810 census form Head of family Free white males under 10 ditto 10-16 ditto 16-26 ditto 26-45 ditto 45 and over Repeats for free white females All others Slaves Remarks. Hope that is clear and helps. Carol Carman