Seeking information about Catholic Priest John J. Toomey who was pastor at St. Agnes church in the middle to late 1880's. We know he was a family member because we have many of his things, but can't figure out where he fits in. We know his father was Patrick Toomey, from Cohoes NY, but need to know which patrick so we can proceed with our family search. Any clues about him would be greatly appreciated! Thanks. Susan - neodane@bellsouth.net

Hello, Time to post my SAUERs again. Does anyone know of the following family: 1. Jacob "Jake" SAUER, b. 25 Aug 1836 Rossdorf, Hesseland, Germany, m. Rosalia ZINKANDT, d. May 1920 in Oneida County NY. Jake and Rosalia are buried in Point Rock Cemetery, Oneida County NY. Jake m. 2nd Barbara HOFFMAN. Jake was the son of: 2. Christian SAUER and unknown. Christian also had a daughter, Anna Mary SAUER, b. 1828 in Germany, d. 1905. Jake and Rosalia had the following children: 1. Rosina SAUER, m. William PETER 2. Frederick SAUER, m. Albertina REBE 3. Elizabeth "Libby" SAUER, m. Oren EVANS 4. Julia SAUER, m. Jacob HETTRICK I have further descendant info on the children of Jake and Rosalia. Can anyone help make connections? Thank you, Carol Martin carolmorgain@earthlink.net

Hello, Does anyone know the following? I am looking for any clues regarding the family of: Nathan JONES, b. 1792 Rensselaer County NY, m. Esther BABCOCK, d. 3 Mar 1863 Oneida County NY. Nathan and Esther had at least one child, Betsey Emeline JONES (who married and divorced Joseph WELLS of Augusta, Oneida County NY). Esther's BABCOCK line is of the BABCOCKs of Westerly RI, and I strongly suspect that Nathan's is, too, as there was a Nathan JONES in Westerly RI the right age to be Nathan's father (or grandfather?). I just cannot make the connection. Can anyone help? Thank you, Carol Martin carolmorgain@earthlink.net

Hello Searchers! I have recently been given a whole bushel full of information about a BEST family who lived in Herkimer (specifically Ilion and Frankfort) and Oneida (specifically Westmoreland and Deerfield) Countied. Although I have ancestors who *are* named BEST and did also live in both counties, these Bests do not seem to be mine or related to mine in any way that I have yet found. Here is some of the information that I have received: In the Armory Hill Cemetery, Ilion, NY, repose these BEST family members, under a rather large monument: BEST father mother William Edward Best Olive Mumaw Best 1877-1936 1876-1955 son his wife Frederick A. Best Bernice Rix Best 1916-1992 1916-1981 William Andrew Best Corinne Lockman Best 1904- 1905- I also happen to have the obituary of Bernice Rix BEST -- she seems to have had a sister named Leona Rix CHAPIN and a niece named Priscilla LOCE, both of Ilion, NY in 1981. I also have two marriage records: (1) John BEST and Carrie D. BELLINGER, Herkimer County, wed on 11-21-1888 (2) Francis P. BEST and Margaret BAKER, both of Ilion, wed on 9-17-1898 Again, just to re-iterate, MY Bests are JOHN BEST (1812-1875); m-1: Frances (nee-??)1817-1851 children: Charles, Gus, Emily, Frederic (Charles married Carrie LAW 2-14-1861 in Westmoreland) m-2: Martha Jane PARKS children: Adele, Frank C. Frank C. is my greatgrandfather, born February, 1857 in Frankfort. m-1: Winifred "Winnie" Evans (1864-1897) children: Iva, Edna, Harry W., John m-2: Vivian D. Reed (1880-1940) children: Vera, Lansing, Catherine, Evelyn Would be happy to talk to ANYONE about ANY of these names! Marsha Strong Gainesville, FL

I am looking for information to verify my great- great-grandfather's birth. According to all his records (marriage, death, military, etc.), Charles Henry Tubbs was born in Verona, Oneida Co., NY on 19 November, 1829. He was the oldest son and second child of Charles Tubbs (of Norwalk, CT and West Springfield, MA) and Emily Morgan Tubbs (of West Springfield, MA). His older sister was born in 1826 in W. Springfield, and he may have had two other siblings born in the Verona area (Emily in 1832 and Luman in 1833), before the family moved on to Michigan (where the next child, Avanda, was born in 1835--according to the census). Charles Tubbs Sr. was a "building mover" according to the 1850 census and may have been in the same occupation during this time. They may have been with one of Emily (Sr.)'s brothers and their families as one removed from W. Springfield to Michigan in the early 1830's (this is only speculation though). Does anyone have ideas on where I could look to find the Tubbs family in Verona during this time? I have no idea where to begin to look. Thank you. Lara Grant Ripon, WI

Hi Group~ I am looking for Daniel HALE and his wife, Polly BARTLETT who lived in Florence, and then, were listed in the 1830 & 1840 NY census's living in CAMDEN, Oneida Co. If there is anyone on this list who can try and find any sort of reference to this Daniel Hale, I will be willing to pay for some research on this couple. I am trying to find out if the Fanny Hale b. 1804, Ruth Hale b. 1809 and Daniel Hale Jr b. 1814 that were listed in the LDS IGI (and listed as children of Daniel Hale and Polly Bartlett)were my ancestor's and this was their line. The above Daniel descended from Thomas HALE and Ruth HARDY from Brookfield, MA. Thomas was a LT in the Revolutionary War and is buried in MA. He had a Will mentioning Daniel, in the Descendant's of Thomas Hale of Newbury, MA. The line only goes to Daniel and Polly(Bartlett) HALE and not their Children, however it does say they moved to Oneida co , NY. My Fanny Hale(my ggg) m. James SERGEANT in 1824, and her sister Ruth m. Wells ELY SERGEANT, There is no, further info at this time on Daniel Hale Jr that was also mentioned, but I do find a Daniel Hale b. later in the are m. to a EMILY CHIDSAY(sp?). I know from personal Sergeant History that these girls father's name was Daniel Hale, the mother was not listed. I am not positive, but I believe they were either Unitarian or Baptists(possibly even Seventh Day), although I have personally never seen any evidence to prove it, (but I know other branches of my Sergeant's were Seventh Day Baptists). I have one record that says Ruth was born in VT and another Fanny was b. in MA, so if Daniel did spend time in VT, I don't think it was long. Daniel also had a brother, Thomas Hale, who lived in Waterford, VT and shows up in some census's there. I did find a Daniel Hale in VT in 1790, but it was in Caledonia Co. Can I get this book on Pioneers of Camden Co through the LDS FHC? Thanks in advance for any answers, Sincerely, Penny Kresl ----- Original Message ----- From: Grier Ingebretsen <grier@uswest.net> To: <NYONEIDA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA-L] Camden, NY book > Thanks for mentioning this again- I was not on the list on > 6/19/99 but will certainly make an effort to track this book down > now. > Patti W-I > > Luni5@aol.com wrote: > > > > Hi Kathy, > > > > I just wanted to thank you for the hint you posted back on 6/19/99 about > > the book "Pioneer History of Camden, Oneida Co.,NY". When I read it, I > > printed it out and put it with my "things to do" on my Salt Lake City trip. > > Well, you were right about the good information!! In it I found the parents > > and siblings of my Lydia Howland Cain, whom I have been trying to research > > for several years!! She is the daughter of Elisha Howland, who died there in > > 1846, one of eleven children. > > > > Thanks again for the good information!! > > > > Pam Banwart > > Tucson, AZ >

Thanks for mentioning this again- I was not on the list on 6/19/99 but will certainly make an effort to track this book down now. Patti W-I Luni5@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Kathy, > > I just wanted to thank you for the hint you posted back on 6/19/99 about > the book "Pioneer History of Camden, Oneida Co.,NY". When I read it, I > printed it out and put it with my "things to do" on my Salt Lake City trip. > Well, you were right about the good information!! In it I found the parents > and siblings of my Lydia Howland Cain, whom I have been trying to research > for several years!! She is the daughter of Elisha Howland, who died there in > 1846, one of eleven children. > > Thanks again for the good information!! > > Pam Banwart > Tucson, AZ

Hi, The book is available on film from the FamilyHistory Library #1405494. Good luck! Pam

Hi Kathy, I just wanted to thank you for the hint you posted back on 6/19/99 about the book "Pioneer History of Camden, Oneida Co.,NY". When I read it, I printed it out and put it with my "things to do" on my Salt Lake City trip. Well, you were right about the good information!! In it I found the parents and siblings of my Lydia Howland Cain, whom I have been trying to research for several years!! She is the daughter of Elisha Howland, who died there in 1846, one of eleven children. Thanks again for the good information!! Pam Banwart Tucson, AZ

Also numerous Alzheimer disease cases found linked to use of aluminum cookware. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark and Faith Lustik <lusyke@gisco.net> To: <NYONEIDA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 4:01 AM Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Re: NYONEIDA-D Digest V99 #172 > > > Judith- > I want to reassure you that some mental illnesses are passed down through > generation gentically while others are more of a learned behavior(that is learned > from parents) and others we simply do not know. The vast majority of people with > mental illness I see have suffered trauma in their lives, ie. abuse. some believe > even if you have the genetic makeup there must be a trigger that sets of the > illness, like abuse. Chances are that your husband's ancestor didn't suffer from > mental illness anyhow. We discussed awhile ago that people were put into such > places for many reasons, such as dementia, alcoholism, epilepsy, even being a > litle odd could get you in. > Faith > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at judjack@rocketmail.com > For List Rules visit http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1006 click on Mailing List > Visit the Oneida County Mailing List Surname Page at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1006/oneida.html > Visit the Oneida Co NYGenWeb Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida >

Judith- I want to reassure you that some mental illnesses are passed down through generation gentically while others are more of a learned behavior(that is learned from parents) and others we simply do not know. The vast majority of people with mental illness I see have suffered trauma in their lives, ie. abuse. some believe even if you have the genetic makeup there must be a trigger that sets of the illness, like abuse. Chances are that your husband's ancestor didn't suffer from mental illness anyhow. We discussed awhile ago that people were put into such places for many reasons, such as dementia, alcoholism, epilepsy, even being a litle odd could get you in. Faith

I would like information on the following families Grower, Schwab, Teller, Drury, Sweet, Kimball, Bunnell. Thank you colette@mtaonline.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <NYONEIDA-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <NYONEIDA-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 8:12 AM Subject: NYONEIDA-D Digest V99 #152

I'm interested in contacting anyone who has info on the descendants of JAMES FREEMAN b.26 MARCH 1796 in Amersterdam(?) NY and d. 1 FEB 1874 in the Town of Western, Oneida Co. His wife was NANCY KEYES b. 30 OCT 1800 and died in Oneida Co. 5 APRIL 1878. -- GMFreeman Am Anfang schuf Gott Himmel und Erde.

I have really searched and searched for information on the Institute in Binghamton where my husbands great grandfather stil 33 years (Mental Def) + and he even died there. Name: Patrick W. Mulligan from Ireland and resided first in Sherburne, New York with his family. The reason I am searching is because one of his son's Fred Mulligan left one day and never to be seen again after 1905 in NYC. Also, one of the girl's wanted to become a nun. In pictures that I have she look very depressed. We wonder if this is being passed down through the family. Thank you. Judith M. Oxholm Villafane jamis3333@prodigy.net A Page For My Family http://members.tripod.com/~blueflower/index.htm

In a message dated 7/21/99 7:24:02 AM, NYONEIDA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << > The WITTIG side of my family had some ice cream stores back in 1930, > 40's and 50's, than sold out to Lincoln Farms. Looking any information > on WITTIG Ice Cream or Lincoln Farms if they are still in business. The > stores were in Utica and Rome and the surrounding area. > > Thanks, > Rusty Renshaw >> Don't have any information that I can add, but I remember that name. I'm 50 now! Back in the 50's I can remember the trucks and the signs advertising it. It was a quality product. My parents used to get cheaper brands, however! Regards, Russ Martin

Hi List, I am sending this again I think I had the wrong address. Rusty Renshaw wrote: > The WITTIG side of my family had some ice cream stores back in 1930, > 40's and 50's, than sold out to Lincoln Farms. Looking any information > on WITTIG Ice Cream or Lincoln Farms if they are still in business. The > stores were in Utica and Rome and the surrounding area. > > Thanks, > Rusty Renshaw

Hi there. I'm hoping that some of you who are still in the Utica area may be able to help me with some of the branches in my family. The GROSSMAN family came to Utica from Lithuania. Lena, Shmeryl, Charles, Sam, Louis, and Julius. Lena married my great-grandfather, Max BENJAMIN and then later Julius BRODY, an orthodox rabbi. I know that Julius' son Eddie ran a furniture store in Utica, and Grossman Furniture, as well as Utica Luggage & Leather was owned by the Grossman family. I also know that a lot of the family lived on Whitesboro St. HOFFMAN, RIZIKA and BENAJMIN are also prominent family names. These Grossmans were in Utica in the early 1900s. Some also continue to live there. I am looking for these descendants: DESANTIS (descendants of Florence Grossman and Herman Desantis), VAN CUREN (descendants of Ethel Grossman and James Van Curen) and HURWITZ (descendants of Joseph Grossman and Anna Hurwitz). If any of these names sound familiar to you - I'd love to hear from you. I'm collecting stories, too. Thanks in advance! -- Linda D. Epstein Photo Editor Knight Ridder/Tribune Photo Service (202) 383-6169 Fax: (202) 628-6797 lepstein@krtinfo.com

Thanks for the recent exchange of information about the Marcy State Hospital and the New York State Insane Asylum (Mohawk Valley...) at Utica. My ancestor, Mary Louise Keech, worked at the latter from about 1862 to 1865 before moving to St. Peter, Minnesota, to assist in setting up the Minnesota Hospital for the Insane. Does anyone know if there would be records of staff from that far back at the Utica institution? Thank you, Sandy Godsey

Greetings All! While on the subject, I used to have relatives there in the 50's. I remember a little store there, and wonder what it is like today in terms of population, etc. Best Regards, David in N.W. Florida but an Oneida native.

Need information on Henry Pexton's death. His wife, Mary Louise Keech Pexton was a widow by 1865, when she moved from Utica to St. Peter, Minnesota. Any help would be greatly appreciated as to when he died, and the cause of death. He was alive and living in Oneida County when the 1860 Federal Census was taken, so it would have been sometime between then and 1865. Thank you, Sandy Godsey