I have found reference to an Oneida Academy later being called the Oneida Institute located in Whitesboro, for the preparation of poor young men in the ministry and was started by George Washington Gale around the early 1800's. This was later called the Whitestown Seminary. This was a church-backed school, established by the Presbyterians in 1827. The Free- will Baptists took over in the mid 1840's, closing in the 1880's. Chris > > > Can anyone tell me where the Oneida Seminary was located (1860s), what > kind of school it was, does it still exist, are there any > student/faculty records remaining??? > Thanks, > Ken

Ken: I checked the book - "First 50 years of Cazenovia Seminary, 1825-1875" for information on a Prof. W.W. Roller (and Edith Ballou, tou!) but I found nothing. Nothing in the general histories, decade-by-decade histories (1845-1875), nothing in the Trustees and teachers lists, nothing in the students list. Perhaps he was at another "Oneida Seminary" and not the "Oneida Conference Seminary" in Cazenovia. May he have been a bit later than 1875. Dan W. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyccazen/ At 06:11 PM 11/28/99 -0500, you wrote: >Daniel, >I believe that you have the correct school. The references to Cazenovia, >Madison County and to the Methodist Church fit right in. >I have a reference for a Prof. W.W. Roller of Oneida Seminary. He was married >in Canaseraga(Sullivan) to Edith BALLOU in September, 1868, and they left for >KS. I believe the W.W. stands for William Wallace. >Any information you could provide from your look-up would be appreciated. >ken > >"Daniel H. Weiskotten" wrote: > >> Ken wrote: >> >Can anyone tell me where the Oneida Seminary was located (1860s), what >> >kind of school it was, does it still exist, are there any >> >student/faculty records remaining??? >> >> Perhaps you mean the Oneida Conference Seminary - a Methodist seminary in >> Cazenovia (Madison County)? it has gone by several names: Seminary of the >> Genesee Conference, Cazenovia Seminary, and it is now Cazenovia College. >> The college may have some material, but there is a nice book from their >> 1875 50th anniversary and I'd be glad to do a look-up. They had fires in >> 1947 and 1949 and, along with an administration a few years ago that really >> didn't care, I understand they lost a lot of their old papers. Nothing is >> on-line yet, but I do have a chapter from a 1928 local history that >> discusses the history of the school: >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyccazen/Histories/Atwell_6.html >> >> Dan W. >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyccazen/ >> >> ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== >> Contact the List Manager at judjack@rocketmail.com >> Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html >> List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html >> Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ > >

Ken wrote: >Can anyone tell me where the Oneida Seminary was located (1860s), what >kind of school it was, does it still exist, are there any >student/faculty records remaining??? Perhaps you mean the Oneida Conference Seminary - a Methodist seminary in Cazenovia (Madison County)? it has gone by several names: Seminary of the Genesee Conference, Cazenovia Seminary, and it is now Cazenovia College. The college may have some material, but there is a nice book from their 1875 50th anniversary and I'd be glad to do a look-up. They had fires in 1947 and 1949 and, along with an administration a few years ago that really didn't care, I understand they lost a lot of their old papers. Nothing is on-line yet, but I do have a chapter from a 1928 local history that discusses the history of the school: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyccazen/Histories/Atwell_6.html Dan W. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyccazen/

What would have been the county name BEFORE Oneida? I found some information that said Oneida was established in 1798. I'm looking for some information about a Samuel EMERY from Utica approximately 1790. Cindy

Can anyone tell me where the Oneida Seminary was located (1860s), what kind of school it was, does it still exist, are there any student/faculty records remaining??? Thanks, Ken

Dan, There are plenty of VanDeWalkers in the Rogers Cemetery in Western (http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/cemeteries/western/rogers.htm) I see Kathleen Last and Virginia Ackerman have visited this cemetery recently. Jack May

It was formed out of part of Herkimer county per their Genweb History (printable) Dave Rafferty

Freeman & Almira Gillett Burch had at least 6 dau: Delia [1832-1904] who m Andrew Blazier; Mary [1838 - ;] Emily M [1845 - ] who m Lester Clemmons, Elizabeth [1847 - ;] Eunice [1853 - 1917] who m Merritt Hall; and Roseltha [1855 - .] In 21 Mar 1904 obit for Delia, four sis survived including Eunice Hall & Emily Clemmons. The other two were Mrs Lambert Risley, and Mrs Geo Croup all of North Western. Can anyone help identify which sisters these were? Their bros Darius & Jas Burch also survived. Also, In the Carmichael Rd Cem listing for Town of Western there is an Esther Gillett [1849 - 1911] wife of Wm H Vandewa[l]ker [b 1844.] She was dau of Chas & Sarah G who resided on Barney [Barent's] farm 1850, as did Chas' sis, Emiline Gillett & hus Berlin Vandewalker. Chas d 1859. Who was Wm H' VanDewalker's father? Wm & Sarah had son Henry J 1869. What became of Henry? How do other In the Carmichael Rd Cem listing for Town of Western there is an Esther Gillett [1849 - 1911] wife of Wm H Vandewa[l]ker [b 1844.] She was dau of Chas & Sarah G who resided on Barney [Barent's] farm 1850, as did Chas' sis, Emiline Gillett & hus Berlin Vandewalker. Chas d 1859. Who was Wm H' VanDewalker's father? They had son Henry J 1869. What became of Henry? How do other Vandewalker/wakers in Carmichael Cem relate to Barney V, b 1783. Any info helpful [hi Nan] Any info helpful [hi Nan] Thank You, Dan

Hello I am looking for someone who might be able to give more infomation on these two persons who are buried at Fort Hill Cemetary Auburn NY Joseph KNAPP d 24 May 1910.... plus: Minnie Knapp d 2 Jun 1932 Any help would be appreciated and most welcome. Kathy

Hi looking for info on a J.A. Nelson born in Utica in 1857. Married Annie Linfoot who was from Canada and born 1866. They adopted 1 child Mildred who was born in Utica Oct 1908. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you all! Michele Lockwood

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Does anyone know what happens when old photo studios closed? I have a picture of my great-grandmother that was taken by Finch Studios, 14 Albany Street, Utica circa 1908 and I'm just curious about where any negatives would be (did they have negatives then???). Thanks. Wendy Scalfaro PO Box 777 East Syracuse, NY 13057-0777 wscalfaro@hotmail.com Researching: ANDERSON - Oneida Co., NY; Washington, DC GLICKERT - Ontario & Monroe Cos., NY HAASZE - Ontario Co., NY HICKS - Flushing, LI, NY; Dutchess Co., NY; Ontario Co., NY MILLER - Ontario Co., NY PENDERY - Cincinnati, Hamilton, OH; Washinton, DC SANDERS - Ontario Co., NY SANDS - Block Island, RI; Ontario Co., NY ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Wendy, you might contact the Oneida County Historical Society on Gennessee st in Utica and see if they have any records on the Finch co. As it was probably a privately owned studio, almost anything could have happened to the company records. They may have used Glass plate photography back in 1908, so there may not be a negative record, as we know it. I think that grew from Eastman-Kodak's Brownies and other early cameras that were used by the general public. We have an old photo of my wife's ggm taken by another Utica studio , probably around 1880, and knew it was active for many years. There maybe some photography club in the area that might know, or other old photo collectors, antique shops and the like. The Utica library could have some information, also. There is one famous story of many of Civil War's Matthew Brady's glass plates ending up being used in a greenhouse , but were recognized and many restored to give priceless images. Many cities have studios that do great copying of old photos,if that is what you are after. We had several done here in Kalamazoo of my wife's ggm and sent them to other relative's . Research on the history and methods of photography would help you, also. Good luck . Dave Rafferty

Does anyone have access to the Annals oand Recollections of Oneida Co. by Pomroy James, published Rome, NY, 1851? Roberta

Hi List, I would like some suggestions as to where to go next. I have been researching my Great-Grandfather, William Frank PRIMMAR. I just got his death certificate, but it lists his parents as "unknown". I have two conflicting documents listing his place of birth. My grandfather (his son) Ernest James PRIMMAR's birth certificate lists WF's place of birth as Solsville in 1858. WF's death certificate (which, incidentally, was filled out by Ernest James) states that his place of birth was Oriskany Falls, 1857. I do know that according to the 1920 census, that the William F. PRIMMAR family was living in Oriskany Falls at that point in time. William F. also worked for the Hathaway and Reynolds Co. (according to death certificate). My problem now is "where next?" I have tried my various aunts and uncles and my dad, but none of them know ANYTHING. My father vaguely remembers something about a question of William F.'s citizenship, but my sources say he was born in the U.S. (according to 1920 census, his mother was born in England). HELP!! | | | Joan Broneske \|/ unicorn@softcom.net /|\ //|\\

Hello: Don't know if this will help, but I knew a Ralph Carey from Oneida / Oneida Castle area. He passed away sometime in the 1980's I think. He had a daughter named Olive (aka Skip) that was the mother of one of my cousins. If you think I can help, please let me know. Jane Stevens - Hodge jane@globalaccess-inc.com NYONEIDA-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > NYONEIDA-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 250 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Barnes,Wright,Upson,Cady,Barrow,Bu ["Kathy Johnson" <hole18@hctc.com>] > #2 [NYONEIDA-L] RICHARDSON [David & Kenna Routh <routh@harvey.] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from NYONEIDA-D, send a message to > > NYONEIDA-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > Visit the ONEIDA Co Surname Page at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > > Contact the listower at judjack@rocketmail.com > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Barnes,Wright,Upson,Cady,Barrow,Buck,McCall,Dunsbagh > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 13:50:57 -0800 > From: "Kathy Johnson" <hole18@hctc.com> > To: <NYONEIDA-D@rootsweb.com> > > I have copies of land records for my gggrandfather Isaac and his wife Letitia that include the names of Philip & David Cady, James Barrow, Minor Buck, Benjamin A. & Caroline McCall, John Dunsbagh, Ashbel Upson, Benjamin Wright and Sherman Barnes. If anyone wants what I have, let me know. Kathy Johnson > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] RICHARDSON > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 22:36:28 -0600 > From: David & Kenna Routh <routh@harvey.bakeru.edu> > To: NYONEIDA-L@rootsweb.com > > I am interested in information on my RICHARDSON/CAREY ancestors. My > great-grandfather, WESLEY CAREY, had three half-sisters, HATTIE, FANNIE, > and SARAH CAREY. The three sisters married three brothers, DARWIN, > LYMAN, and BENJAMIN RICHARDSON. In 1920, they are in Rome, Oneida, New > York. On the Onedia County website I found a BERNARD S. RICHARDSON who > died in 1980. I believe he was the son of LYMAN and SARAH. Also listed > was ERNEST L. who died in 1971. He was the son of DARWIN and FANNIE. He > had a daughter names Thelma. > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > Kenna Routh > Baldwin City, KS > routh@harvey.bakeru.edu

I am interested in information on my RICHARDSON/CAREY ancestors. My great-grandfather, WESLEY CAREY, had three half-sisters, HATTIE, FANNIE, and SARAH CAREY. The three sisters married three brothers, DARWIN, LYMAN, and BENJAMIN RICHARDSON. In 1920, they are in Rome, Oneida, New York. On the Onedia County website I found a BERNARD S. RICHARDSON who died in 1980. I believe he was the son of LYMAN and SARAH. Also listed was ERNEST L. who died in 1971. He was the son of DARWIN and FANNIE. He had a daughter names Thelma. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Kenna Routh Baldwin City, KS routh@harvey.bakeru.edu

I have copies of land records for my gggrandfather Isaac and his wife Letitia that include the names of Philip & David Cady, James Barrow, Minor Buck, Benjamin A. & Caroline McCall, John Dunsbagh, Ashbel Upson, Benjamin Wright and Sherman Barnes. If anyone wants what I have, let me know. Kathy Johnson

Hello Oneida Co Researcher's~ I am looking for ties to my ggg grandfather. James SARGENT(SERGEANT) I know very little about him. I know he was probably born in Schoharie or Chenango Co, NY in 1802. He grew up in Butternuts Otsego Co, NY just barely across the Unadilla River from South New Berlin, Chenango Co. In between his birth and his marriage he had to have spent some time in Oneida Co, in the Camden/Florence/Tabourg. in Oneida Co area as he met my ggg grandmother here in Oneida Co. Her name was Fanny HALE, daughter of Daniel HALE and Polly BARTLETT. She was b. 1805, but her father does not show up in Oneida Co in Camden Township until the 1820 census. I don't know if the Sargent's had family and friends there and that is where James met her or what? The thing is they next appear to be living in S. New Berlin, Chenango Co in the 1830 and 40 census's. I have found 4 of their young children's gravestones at the Riverside Cemetery in South New Berlin in Chenango Co. By 1846, They (according to my gg grandfather's obit) left NYS by means of the 5 great Lake waterways and landed in Milwaukee Port in the Early Spring of 1846. They then went overland by oxcart to Jefferson Co, WI where they settled, and raised their 5 children. Many of the descendant's(like myself) still remain in the SE area of WI. Some migrated North and south. It has been my knowledge in my research to note that when a family went west by ship or boat(Great Lakes waterways) They were many pioneers that went together..Did any other families out there go west about this time from NY? Their Children: Descendants of James Sergeant 1 James Sergeant b: August 15, 1802 in S New Berlin, Chenango Co., NY .. +Sarah Fanny Hale Father: Daniel Hale Mother: Polly Bartlett? b: April 09, 1805 in MA ........ 2 James Giles Sergeant b: July 06, 1826 in South New Berlin, Chenango Co., NY ............ +Jane Smith b: September 13, 1833 in Oneida Co., NY ........ *2nd Wife of James Giles Sergeant: ............ +Mary Smith b: Unknown in Oneida Co., NY ........ *3rd Wife of James Giles Sergeant: ............ +Julia Sergeant ........ 2 Harley Sergeant b: 1829 ........ 2 Harley Sergeant b: 1830 in S New Berlin Chenango Co., NY ........ 2 Andrew Sergeant b: March 26, 1831 in New Berlin, Chenango Co., NY ............ +Emiline Graham Father: Abraham Graham Mother: Ann Graham b: 1838 in PA ........ 2 Deloss Sergeant b: April 13, 1835 ........ 2 Helen Marion Sergeant b: August 11, 1837 in Chenango Co., NY ............ +William Franklin Reynolds Father: William Reynolds Mother: Susan Dodge b: May 01, 1836 in Madison Co., NY ........ 2 Daniel Sergeant b: 1841 ........ 2 Daniel Delos Sergeant b: May 23, 1844 in New Berlin Chenango Co., NY ............ +Helen Roselthe Brown Father: George Brown Mother: Urana Tuesaw b: January 24, 1854 in Richmond, Walworth Co., WI ........ 2 Emily Eliza Sergeant b: May 23, 1844 in South New Berlin, Chenango Co., NY ............ +Simon Wright Bailey Father : L.B. Bailey Mother: Eunice Wright? b: 1840 in VT Do any of these names look familiar? Thanks for any replies, and check out my website below. Penny Kresl - Wm & Penny Kresl e-mail: kresl@elknet.net Penny's Genealogy: http://www.elknet.net/kresl/Penny/penny.html Delavan, WI.USA.Earth

Will the lady who is researching the Olney's contact me again. I found an Olney grave stone picture in my photos. I will send it. colette@mtaonline.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <NYONEIDA-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <NYONEIDA-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 6:24 AM Subject: NYONEIDA-D Digest V99 #248