Virginia Are you looking for dead ones or live ones? Neal On 17 Mar 2000, at 23:34, Virginia Ackerman wrote: > Does anyone have information on the Pfluke (Pflugh / Pflug) family in the > Rome or Lee Center, NY area? > > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at judjack@rocketmail.com > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ >

Does anyone have information on the Pfluke (Pflugh / Pflug) family in the Rome or Lee Center, NY area?

I recently searched for my ggg uncle, Rev. John J. Toomey, who was the first pastor of St. Agnes Church in Utica. It was the second Catholic church in Utica, started in the early 1880's to accommodate all the Irish. I had a wonderful response from the Utica Historical Society on Gennessee Street in Utica. They provided initial information in response to my inquiry (which did not include any $), and then offered to complete a more in depth search for $15. Pretty reasonable, and great service. Good luck on your hunt. Susan Toomy - Daytona Beach Joanne Garland wrote: > My earlier message in answer to your posting came too soon! Many thanks to > Pat for links provided in today's posting. For founding dates of some Utica > area Roman Catholic parishes, see: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njpatrn/parishdates.html > > Joanne Garland > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Hicks <jacjon@sk.sympatico.ca> > To: NYONEIDA-L@rootsweb.com <NYONEIDA-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, March 16, 2000 2:14 PM > Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Utica Catholic Churches > > >The Roman Catholic baptism record for Elizabeth Anna O'CONNOR b. 8 Feb > 1852, > >Utica, NY, to James Charles O'CONNOR and Ellen ____? seems my last resort > to > >find the maiden name of her mother. > > > >Utica City Clerk's office does not have birth records for that early. Does > >anyone know if the courthouse in Rome would have a birth record? > > > >Would anyone know if St. Joseph's was the only catholic church in Utica at > >the time. Would baptism records remain with the church? > > > >Would certainly appreciate any clues or suggestions. > > > >Jack Hicks > >Rosetown, Saskatchewan > >jacjon@sk.sympatico.ca > > > >______________________________ > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at judjack@rocketmail.com > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/

Sincere thanks to all who replied - much appreciated. Jean Bonnie Scotland

thanx to Dianne and Dan for the specific directions to Glenwood Cemetery. Thanx to all the others for your help. Valerie

Thank you to everyone who responded to my yesterday's query looking for 1850 churches. Your information was so helpful that I've already written a letter to, I hope, the appropriate church. I do have one other question. James O'CONNOR was a druggist when I found him in 1870. Did Utica have City Directories or Business Directories for the period 1850-1859? If so, does anyone happen to have access to them for such a lookup? Even a lookup of Utica 1850 census, if anyone would be so kind, would be helpful as I try to track him back to emigration. I'd be very grateful. Thank you. Jack Hicks Rosetown, Saskatchewan jacjon@sk.sympatico.ca

My earlier message in answer to your posting came too soon! Many thanks to Pat for links provided in today's posting. For founding dates of some Utica area Roman Catholic parishes, see: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njpatrn/parishdates.html Joanne Garland -----Original Message----- From: Jack Hicks <jacjon@sk.sympatico.ca> To: NYONEIDA-L@rootsweb.com <NYONEIDA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 16, 2000 2:14 PM Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Utica Catholic Churches >The Roman Catholic baptism record for Elizabeth Anna O'CONNOR b. 8 Feb 1852, >Utica, NY, to James Charles O'CONNOR and Ellen ____? seems my last resort to >find the maiden name of her mother. > >Utica City Clerk's office does not have birth records for that early. Does >anyone know if the courthouse in Rome would have a birth record? > >Would anyone know if St. Joseph's was the only catholic church in Utica at >the time. Would baptism records remain with the church? > >Would certainly appreciate any clues or suggestions. > >Jack Hicks >Rosetown, Saskatchewan >jacjon@sk.sympatico.ca > >______________________________

There is a partial listing, with founding dates, of Utica area Catholic Churches at <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njpatrn/Oneida%20resources.html ">Oneida Co Resources</A> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njpatrn/Oneida%20resources.html

Good site Library of congress www.loc.gov click on using the library click on for researchers click on search on line catalog type in what you want State, city, Maps, a surname etc also has a collection of Sanborn fire insurance maps from 1800s to present maps include residential and business buildings with the owner of the building their web site is sanbornmap.com They are in Pelham NY on their web click on Traditional mapping Their parent co does historical maps (EDR) 1-800-352-0050 I am researching the surname BOWNE Thanks Audrey Seattle

The church secretary at St. Joseph's might be able to tell you which other churches existed in Utica that early. They will search their own (and St. Patrick's Church) baptismal/marriage records for a modest donation, and they prefer to have your question in writing, giving plenty of information. Other ways to find maiden name of Elizabeth's mother might be: - Elizabeth's death certificate (gives mother's maiden name, if known). - Elizabeth's obituary (often gives mother's maiden name). - Ellen's gravestone, if located near that of James (often uses only maiden name). - Family graves near to Ellen's. - Census records (look for an elderly relative living in the household, or next door!). - City directories (same as above--see other household members). - James' death certificate/obituary (may provide name of his spouse). - Church marriage record for James and Ellen. - Names of witnesses to the marriage. There are many routes around seeming brick walls. Good luck! Joanne Garland -----Original Message----- From: Jack Hicks <jacjon@sk.sympatico.ca> To: NYONEIDA-L@rootsweb.com <NYONEIDA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 16, 2000 2:14 PM Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Utica Catholic Churches >The Roman Catholic baptism record for Elizabeth Anna O'CONNOR b. 8 Feb 1852, >Utica, NY, to James Charles O'CONNOR and Ellen ____? seems my last resort to >find the maiden name of her mother. > >Utica City Clerk's office does not have birth records for that early. Does >anyone know if the courthouse in Rome would have a birth record? > >Would anyone know if St. Joseph's was the only catholic church in Utica at >the time. Would baptism records remain with the church? > >Would certainly appreciate any clues or suggestions. > >Jack Hicks >Rosetown, Saskatchewan >jacjon@sk.sympatico.ca > >______________________________

I'd like to know if the pioneer EASTMAN Cemetery still exists on the old family farm near Marshall, Oneida Co., NY. I'm particularly interested in getting transcriptions or even photographs of some of the stones if they still exist, especially those of my ggggg grandparents, Joseph EASTMAN (1724-1802) and Phebe (HENDRICKS) EASTMAN (1723-1812). Any help greatly appreciated- please excuse cross postings. Steve Frevert

I think you're referring to my response concerning the Nisbet cemetery in the town of Western. Directions: take St. Rt. 365 to Floyd, north on Soule Rd. about 3 miles, turn left on Kotary Road, drive until you get stuck then walk about a mile more. It's over the crest of the hill on the right. It's probably closer if you walk in from South Hill Road but I've never been that way. If you need further, let me know. Neal Carrier On 16 Mar 2000, at 4:09, SessaI@aol.com wrote: > To the person who wrote about the cemetery that is about a mile off the road: > would you be so kind as to send directions for this cemetery? Would greatly > appreciate it. Do you know the name of it? > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at judjack@rocketmail.com > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ > > >

A teamster is essentially a driver, i.e., a driver of a wagon and its team of horses or mules. (A mule driver is also called a mule skinner). Tim Dennee On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:15:41 +0000 John McCulloch <3jays@dialstart.net> writes: > Can anyone tell me what a "teamster" was in the 1860 census > (Kirkland, > Oneida)? > > Thanks > Jean > > > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at judjack@rocketmail.com > Oneida Co Surname page > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ >

I believe it was someone who "drove" horses. John McCulloch wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what a "teamster" was in the 1860 census (Kirkland, > Oneida)? > > Thanks > Jean > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at judjack@rocketmail.com > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/

Hi, More info uploaded to my Oneida Co sites: <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njpatrn/index.html">Pat's Genealogy Page</A> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njpatrn/index.html or <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njpatrn/StanfordCemetery.html"> If the Stones Could Talk....</A> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njpatrn/StanfordCemetery.html <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njpatrn/Oneida%20resources.html ">Oneida Co Resources</A> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njpatrn/Oneida%20resources.html Pat

Can anyone tell me what a "teamster" was in the 1860 census (Kirkland, Oneida)? Thanks Jean

The Roman Catholic baptism record for Elizabeth Anna O'CONNOR b. 8 Feb 1852, Utica, NY, to James Charles O'CONNOR and Ellen ____? seems my last resort to find the maiden name of her mother. Utica City Clerk's office does not have birth records for that early. Does anyone know if the courthouse in Rome would have a birth record? Would anyone know if St. Joseph's was the only catholic church in Utica at the time. Would baptism records remain with the church? Would certainly appreciate any clues or suggestions. Jack Hicks Rosetown, Saskatchewan jacjon@sk.sympatico.ca

In the horse and buggy era, a teamster was one that drove mostly larger freight wagons that were pulled by multiple animal teams, horse, mules, etc. It was a job akin to semi drivers today, hence the name "teamsters" for their union. Dave

this cemetery I'm looking for is most likely in the Oneida area, this is where many of our Lowe ancestors hung their hats! This is not the same cemetery as the one in Oneida Castle near the church/park/Castle St. area, is it? Valerie Lowe

To the person who wrote about the cemetery that is about a mile off the road: would you be so kind as to send directions for this cemetery? Would greatly appreciate it. Do you know the name of it?