Hi! 1870 U.S. Census N.Y., Oneida Co., Trenton, P.O. Prospect, p. 752 Dickinson, Simon, 35, Carpenter, b. NY Dickinson, Charlotte, 30, Keeping House, b. England Dickinson, Mary E., 10, b. NY Dickinson, Nelly M., 6, b. NY Dickinson, Agnes, A., 4, b. NY Hope this helps. Theresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Bain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:51 AM Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Fw: 1865 or 1870 Census > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carol Bain > To: NYMADISO-L > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:51 AM > Subject: 1865 or 1870 Census > > > Does anyone have access to an 1865 or 1870 Census? I would appreciate it very much if you could do a look up for me. > > They lived in Barneveld, NY. Either T/O Trenton, Russia or T/O Remsen, I think. And, I believe, it is in Oneida County. > > I am searching for information on > > ____________ Dickinson who would be the head of household. > > Charlotte, wife born 1841 + - > daughters: > Nellie, born 1864 + - > Agnes, born 1867 + - > > Charlotte, Nellie and Agnes are on the 1880 Census living with David A. Bardwell. He is listed as the girls' step-father and Charlotte as David's wife. There is also a Susie A. Bardwell, age 7. > > Evidently my gr gr grandfather died sometime between 1867 - 1873 but I don't know what his name is or where he is buried (or Charlotte and David either). > > Thanks for all the help (past, present and future)!! > Best Always, > Carol Bain > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ >

Gregg, If you live in Albany, you are likely to find census records on microfilm at the NY State Library. If not, take a short drive east to Pittsfield, Massachusetts, and visit the National Archives depository there (off Route 20, near Super Stop & Shop, a few miles south of the center of town). You'll find all of the federal census records for the entire country there, and volunteers will help you find what you want. Call ahead (413) 445-6885 for hours of operation, and for travel directions. They are open some Saturdays. It would also help if you know in advance which ward of the city you are looking in. The Social Security Death Index does not include everyone. My father (d. 1947) is not on it. I am told this is because he left minor children who received survivors' benefits. I suspect also that deaths may not be listed if families never applied for the SS death benefit, or if the deceased never worked or applied for a Social Security number. Good luck! Joanne Garland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Census, etc.. > Hi- > > I just reviewed the census records available on Ancestry.com for 1930. I > found mostly everybody I was interested in getting. 1920, however was > another story. Alot of the records seemed to be missing, and not many > relatives were even indexed. Is there another source online? I am in > Albany, NY. Are the census records for Utica, for example, kept in the > capitol, or would I have to get to Utica to find them? Or are they lost? > Any good sources of births and deaths in Oneida County online? Not online? > For those I wasn't able to find on the Social Security Deatch Index (Any > idea why they wouldn't be on here?). I have just begun my search, I > apologize for all of the dumb questions. > > Thanks, > > Gregg > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ >

Linda, In addition to the censuses, you might try looking for an obit in the Boonville Herald. Boonville is the town west of Forestport and the weekly paper may have covered Forestport deaths. The old issues are on microfilm at the Erwin Library, Boonville, NY 13309. 942-4834. Roy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Mc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:49 AM Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] 1870 or 1860 census records > I have found the following people on the 1880 Oneida > county census, and was wondering if anyone could check > earlier ones for me? Sorry, I'm in Iowa, so don't > have access to NY records. Any info appreciated. > > This info is from Forestport NY death records - both > buried White Lake Cemetery, Woodgate NY - no > tombstones.Betsey Ann Betsinger Mowers died 12/18/1910 > ae 81yrs 1dys - so born 1829 - daughter of Christopher > & Betsey Sitterly Betsinger.Her husband was Jeremiah > Mowers who died 5/19/1901 ae 76yrs 8ms-son of Alvin & > Belis Frany Mowers, born in Paynes Hollow. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > http://calendar.yahoo.com > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ > >

Hi- I just reviewed the census records available on Ancestry.com for 1930. I found mostly everybody I was interested in getting. 1920, however was another story. Alot of the records seemed to be missing, and not many relatives were even indexed. Is there another source online? I am in Albany, NY. Are the census records for Utica, for example, kept in the capitol, or would I have to get to Utica to find them? Or are they lost? Any good sources of births and deaths in Oneida County online? Not online? For those I wasn't able to find on the Social Security Deatch Index (Any idea why they wouldn't be on here?). I have just begun my search, I apologize for all of the dumb questions. Thanks, Gregg _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

In a message dated 6/2/2003 11:50:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > This info is from Forestport NY death records - both > buried White Lake Cemetery, Woodgate NY - no > tombstones.Betsey Ann Betsinger Mowers died 12/18/1910 > ae 81yrs 1dys - so born 1829 - daughter of Christopher > &Betsey Sitterly Betsinger.Her husband was Jeremiah > Mowers who died 5/19/1901 ae 76yrs 8ms-son of Alvin & > Belis Frany Mowers, born in Paynes Hollow. > Hi In 1860 census Jery? Mowers is living in Western, Oneida County. He is age 36, a laborer; his wife is Betsy age 32 with daughter Elizabeth age 12. The post office is Westernville. Hope this helps, Dianne

----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Bain To: NYMADISO-L Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: 1865 or 1870 Census Does anyone have access to an 1865 or 1870 Census? I would appreciate it very much if you could do a look up for me. They lived in Barneveld, NY. Either T/O Trenton, Russia or T/O Remsen, I think. And, I believe, it is in Oneida County. I am searching for information on ____________ Dickinson who would be the head of household. Charlotte, wife born 1841 + - daughters: Nellie, born 1864 + - Agnes, born 1867 + - Charlotte, Nellie and Agnes are on the 1880 Census living with David A. Bardwell. He is listed as the girls' step-father and Charlotte as David's wife. There is also a Susie A. Bardwell, age 7. Evidently my gr gr grandfather died sometime between 1867 - 1873 but I don't know what his name is or where he is buried (or Charlotte and David either). Thanks for all the help (past, present and future)!! Best Always, Carol Bain

I have found the following people on the 1880 Oneida county census, and was wondering if anyone could check earlier ones for me? Sorry, I'm in Iowa, so don't have access to NY records. Any info appreciated. This info is from Forestport NY death records - both buried White Lake Cemetery, Woodgate NY - no tombstones.Betsey Ann Betsinger Mowers died 12/18/1910 ae 81yrs 1dys - so born 1829 - daughter of Christopher & Betsey Sitterly Betsinger.Her husband was Jeremiah Mowers who died 5/19/1901 ae 76yrs 8ms-son of Alvin & Belis Frany Mowers, born in Paynes Hollow. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com

Would anyone of this list have further information regarding a Daniel D. Tompkins and Jane E. (Hinman) Tompkins marriage or census image. I'm not sure exactly what year they married. I believe it was around 1860-1862ish. I am trying to locate them in a census and it seems to be taking forever. I just joined this list when I found out that these two people (my Great Great Grandparents) were married in "Paris, Oneida County, New York". Daniel D. is the son of David D. who was born in 1808 in Coxsacki, Greene County to "Betsy". I would appreciate ANY help anyone can give me. It is sooooo hard to track the Daniel D.'s from New York to "wherever"!! Thanks in advance!! Carolyn [email protected] Searching Tompkins, Hinman, Mercier to name a few

I'm trying to contact a DUNN descendant of Oneida County that knows someone that might have researched the JOHN DUNN bn. abt. 1825 in Ireland and was living with his family in Oneida Castle in 1860 census. He was married to Lydia, and they had the following children: MICHAEL bn. abt. 1856 Mary abt. 1858 John abt. 1860 Maggie abt. 1863. (Maggie was not in 1860 census) It is my understanding from family rumor that John Dunn died in an accident abt. 1863. His wife Lydia was living with a WM. KNOWLES in Lenox, Madison co. in 1870 census. It is my understanding that she died abt. 1872. I've been unable to find the children except baby Elizabeth that was bn. to Lydia Dunn and William Knowles in 1869. She was my husband's grandmother. I've researched just about every DUNN in ONEIDA CO. and believe me there are a lot of them. I'm just hoping that someone reading this will know of a historian or a liviing relative that might be able to throw some light on this DUNN family. Phyllis in Fl.

In a message dated 5/31/2003 11:22:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Martin? Mc Namara > b. NY probably 1860's, possibly in Utica > M'd. Margaret Shaughnessy > b. Mar. 1867/8 Ireland > There is also a Margaret McNamara, widow of Martin living at 1543 West St. along with Margaret McNamara, listed as saleswoman for Doyle-Knower (clothing store) in 1940 Utica Directory. Dianne

In a message dated 5/31/2003 11:22:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > 1) Martin F. > b. 1 Oct. 1892 utica > m. 24 oct. 1924 Norwood, NY Frances Mc Carthy > d 19 Mar 1953 > (2) dau. who m. Michael Bannigan, Surrogate Judge in Utica who died in 1924 > (3) Margaret b. ca 1888-1891. Single in 1953 > (4) Ella b. 1887 > (5) Leslie (male) 1896 > > In the 1940 Utica city directory there is a Martin Mc Namara married to M. Frances living at 1612 West St. His occupation is listed as a salesman. Also living at a seperate apt. at this address is John & June E. Hagen. Also in this directory is a Mary R. Bannigan, listed as the widow of Michael. She is living at 101 Wall St. with 3 others. Also living at this addy is Rosemary Bannigan, a home economics teacher, John C. Bannigan, of McQuade & Bannigan, a coal and building equipment business; and Bernard M. Bannigan, no occupation listed. Hope this helps. Dianne

George White b. ca 1832 England m. Catherine Cragen d/o Patrick and Honora Cragen b. ca 1845 Ireland Issue: (1) Mary B ca 1865 NY-nothing known of her (2) Charles P. b. Feb. 1868 NY m. ca 1892 Mary b June 1868 Issue known: Charles (A?) b. Aug. 1897-still at home 1920. This is a work in progress. I'm seeking a living descendant. Deanna

William B. Mc Coy B ca 1854 Oneida Co., NY s/o Valorius and Jane Mc Coy M'd post 1875 Johanna Cragen, d/o Patrick and Honora Cragen In 1910 Johanna is a patient in Utica State Hospital Did they have a family? Deanna

Joseph Smith, no date of birth, mar. or death known, resided in Utica, NY in 1889 when Honora Cragen (wife of Patrick Cragen) named him in her Will 1889 as her son-in-law; husband of Bridget Cragen. Bridget was b. ca 1845 and died 28 Feb. 1889 Issue of Joseph and Bridget: Clara Edward Emma Charles Joseph Ella Margaret Nothing is known of this family as yet. I have not yet been able to identify this family due to no known dates of births of these children. It's a work in progress. Deanna

Seeking information on the Irish Cragen/Cregan/Creegan/Creagen Families of Utica, NY James Cregan b. ca 1835 Ireland, residing Utica 1860, m. Julia b ca 1836 Ireland. Issue; Mary Ann ca 1858 NY; dau. ca 1860 James Creagan b. 1819 Newcastle, Co. Limerick, Ireland m. 20 May 1851 d 19 Apr. 1891. He left a Will, Oneida Co. bur. St. Agnes Cem. m'd: Margaret Shaughnessy b. Askeaton, Limerick, Ire. D 27 Oct. 1893 Issue: (1) Bridget b. ca 1855 Utica? Ireland? d. 8 Sept. 1904, bur. St. Agnes on father's plot m. Thomas F. Heslan (2) Catherine b. 27 Apr. 1856 Utica? Ireland? d. 5 Dec. 1932 Utica m. William F. Kingsley 12 Oct 1880 St. Francis de Sales Church, Utica (3) Elizabeth b. 1857 d 22 Sept. 1881 (4) Matilda (Mattie) b. 26 Feb. 1861 Utica d 10 July 1937 m. Hon. Michael Sexton (5) Mary b. 1853 Pennsylvania? D 13 Feb. 1880 m. John J. Dwyer (6) Margaret? D 28 Feb. 1889 Patrick Cragen b. ca 1814 Ireland d. by 1882. Wife as widow in Utica City Directory in 1882 m. Honora [_?_] b. ca 1818 Ireland d 23 Nov. 1889 Utica, NY. She left a Will, witnessed by Maggie Mc Namara, Mary Mahar Issue: (1) Bridget b. ca 1845 Ireland d. 28 Feb. 1889 m. Joseph Smith (2) Margaret b. ca 1849 Canada? Ireland? D 20 Jan. 1889 Buffalo, Erie Co., NY (3) Johanna ca 1853 Ireland Alive 1910 m. William B. McCoy (4) Michael? Ca 1847 Ireland D 28 Dec. 1883 m. Ellen (5) Mary Ca 1841 D 1912 Buffalo, NY, bur. Holy Cross Cem. m. Martin Mc Namara (6) Catherine Ca 1842 m. George White (7) Thomas? Deanna

Seeking information on the descendants of the Utica, Oneida Co. Mc Namara and Cragen/Cregan/Creegan/Creagen Families. Martin A. Mc Namara b. ca 1838 Ireland d. possibly 1900-1910. Place of death unknown Occ: Trunk Maker M'd Mary L. Cragen b. ca 1841 Ireland, dau. of Patrick Cragen and Honora [-?-] She died in Buffalo in 1912 and bur. In Holy Cross Cemetery there. Issue: (1) Martin Bd unknown, possibly 1860's Utica (he is named in grandmother Honora Cragen's Will, Oneida Co. 22 Nov. 1889. He may be the Martin, 1880 in Rochester, Monroe Co., Single, Street Car Driver. No proof. (2) Mary Elizabeth b. 6 June 1866 Utica d. 6 June 1920 Buffalo M'd William L. aka Louis N. Mars Martin? Mc Namara b. NY probably 1860's, possibly in Utica M'd. Margaret Shaughnessy b. Mar. 1867/8 Ireland Issue: (1) Martin F. b. 1 Oct. 1892 utica m. 24 oct. 1924 Norwood, NY Frances Mc Carthy d 19 Mar 1953 (2) dau. who m. Michael Bannigan, Surrogate Judge in Utica who died in 1924 (3) Margaret b. ca 1888-1891. Single in 1953 (4) Ella b. 1887 (5) Leslie (male) 1896 Deanna

I was wondering if anyone is willing to go out to Mount Olivet Cemetery and take some pictures for me ? One of Delia Dennison d. 1948 and Ann Boyle her death date is unknown to me . But they are in the same row I think . Thanks so much , Tee Hadley NY

Gregg: Prices for the packets incl. S & H, vary according to amount of content. Unfortunately, the packets are not indexed yet and we are trying to consolidate 40 years of annual indices. Bearing in mind that there are no guarantees, however, a compilation of 40 years worth of pre-1860 abstracting for your county has a high probability of a hit on one of your lines or discovering a new line. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycnygs Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA-L] Betsy Betsinger Mowers > Jim > > How do you get the abstracted works of the Central New York Genealogical > Society? Is there a charge? > > Gregg Miller > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Hartigan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 11:35 AM > Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA-L] Betsy Betsinger Mowers > > > > Two often overlooked places to search: > > 1.)The LDS Family Library History Catalog that is updated daily at: > > www.familysearch.org > > 2.) The abstracted works of the Central New York Genealogical Society. A > > county packet contains compled abstracting of pre-1860 data done over 40 > > years. > > Jim hartigan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda Mc" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 10:31 AM > > Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Betsy Betsinger Mowers > > > > > > > Just received the following info and it is all new to > > > me. Can someone add to it, or suggest places to look > > > for more info?? Thanks so much, Linda > > > > > > This info is from Forestport NY death records - both > > > buried White Lake Cemetery, Woodgate NY - no > > > tombstones. > > > > > > Betsey Ann Betsinger Mowers died 12/18/1910 ae 81yrs > > > 1dys - so born 1829 - daughter of Christopher & Betsey > > > Sitterly Betsinger. > > > > > > Her husband was Jeremiah Mowers who died 5/19/1901 ae > > > 76yrs 8ms-son of Alvin & Belis Frany Mowers, born in > > > Paynes Hollow. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > > http://search.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > > > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > > > Oneida Co Surname page > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > > > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > > > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > > For List Rules visit http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1006 click > on Mailing List > > Visit the Oneida County Mailing List Surname Page at > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1006/oneida.html > > Visit the Oneida Co NYGenWeb Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida > > > > > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ > >

Jim How do you get the abstracted works of the Central New York Genealogical Society? Is there a charge? Gregg Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hartigan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA-L] Betsy Betsinger Mowers > Two often overlooked places to search: > 1.)The LDS Family Library History Catalog that is updated daily at: > www.familysearch.org > 2.) The abstracted works of the Central New York Genealogical Society. A > county packet contains compled abstracting of pre-1860 data done over 40 > years. > Jim hartigan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Mc" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 10:31 AM > Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Betsy Betsinger Mowers > > > > Just received the following info and it is all new to > > me. Can someone add to it, or suggest places to look > > for more info?? Thanks so much, Linda > > > > This info is from Forestport NY death records - both > > buried White Lake Cemetery, Woodgate NY - no > > tombstones. > > > > Betsey Ann Betsinger Mowers died 12/18/1910 ae 81yrs > > 1dys - so born 1829 - daughter of Christopher & Betsey > > Sitterly Betsinger. > > > > Her husband was Jeremiah Mowers who died 5/19/1901 ae > > 76yrs 8ms-son of Alvin & Belis Frany Mowers, born in > > Paynes Hollow. > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > http://search.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ > > > > > > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > For List Rules visit http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1006 click on Mailing List > Visit the Oneida County Mailing List Surname Page at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1006/oneida.html > Visit the Oneida Co NYGenWeb Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida > >

A Google search on the complete name of the society, enclosed in quotation marks, brings up a number of links about it, including its website, which gives info about the abstracts: http://home.twcny.rr.com/roger1/ Marge in Md. --- Gregg Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > Jim > > How do you get the abstracted works of the Central New York Genealogical > Society? Is there a charge? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com