Could one of the cemetery volunteers for the county webpage (specifically in the Town of Floyd) please contact me off list. tia, Neal Carrier

David, You can get a copy of the original birth certificate (not a copy from Utica's register)from the NY State if you meet their requirements: See website at http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/vr/forms/genealogy.htm They say they will issue the certificate if it is 75 years old and the person is deceased. You can also look up the birth in the NY State Vital Records Index in NYC, Albany, Rochester and perhaps elsewhere. This isn't as complete as the certificate, but will give you name, date and birthplace. I've found it very accurate when I've compared it to the actual certificates. Also if you are not quite sure the birth occurred in Utica, the index will tell you if the event really occurred in New Hartford or some other neighboring town. Regarding church records, they do not contain birth records, but usually have baptismal records. Depending on the denomination and time period, some baptismal records do contain birth date as well as baptismal date. When requesting certificates from the church, be sure to ask for all information included on the original register. Otherwise, you may get only the baptismal date. Hope this helps. Roy -----Original Message----- From: David Critchley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Birth certs in Utica churches I am researching a family in Utica and need a copy of a birth certificate for 1919. Since the clerk's office in Utica makes it so hard for people to obtain birth certificates, unless you can prove to their satisfaction that you are related to the person, is an alternative approach of writing directly to the churches in Utica feasible? Presumably, they will have copies of birth certificates as well, and may not impose such tight conditions on people seeing their own records as does the city authorities in Utica. Any thoughts on this? Thanks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== Contact the List Manager at [email protected] Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/

You presume too much! You will be lucky to get a baptismal date, never mind a birth certificate from a church Good luck, Liz Parmalee ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Critchley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Birth certs in Utica churches > > I am researching a family in Utica and need a copy of > a birth certificate for 1919. Since the clerk's > office in Utica makes it so hard for people to obtain > birth certificates, unless you can prove to their > satisfaction that you are related to the person, is an > alternative approach of writing directly to the > churches in Utica feasible? Presumably, they will > have copies of birth certificates as well, and may not > impose such tight conditions on people seeing their > own records as does the city authorities in Utica. > Any thoughts on this? Thanks. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ > >

I am researching a family in Utica and need a copy of a birth certificate for 1919. Since the clerk's office in Utica makes it so hard for people to obtain birth certificates, unless you can prove to their satisfaction that you are related to the person, is an alternative approach of writing directly to the churches in Utica feasible? Presumably, they will have copies of birth certificates as well, and may not impose such tight conditions on people seeing their own records as does the city authorities in Utica. Any thoughts on this? Thanks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree

Elizabeth "Betty" A. Moore October 20, 2003 Martinsburg - Elizabeth Ann "Betty" Moore formerly of Houseville and Francis Street Martinsburg N.Y. died peacefully at the Presbyterian Home in New Hartford N.Y on Monday October 20, 2003. She was born in Gouverneur New York the daughter of Howard Roy Weedmark and Mary E Apple Weedmark and was the adopted daughter of Charles J Maxiner and M. Beatrice Lowery Maxiner. She attended Gouverneur Schools and graduated from the Watertown School of Commerce in 1926. She resided in Watertown, New York working for the Bagley and Sewall Company and later with her late husband Arthur C Moore operated Moore Northern Haulers Trucking Co., Inc. of Watertown, New York. In later years she worked at the Lewis County Court House in Lowville New York in the Lewis County Historians Office assisting G. Byron Bowen in the publication of the 1970 "History of Lewis County" and later was Secretary for the Lewis County Mental Health Clinic until her retirement in 1975. She was a member of Zenith Capter #346 Order of the Eastern Star and before affiliating with Zenith Chapter served as Matron for two terms with Dirigo Chapter #390 of Turin N.Y. She was a past president of the Turin Civic Club and the Lewis County Women's Republican club and was a member of the Lewis County Historical Society, The Martinsburg Historical Society, Constable Hall Association and the Martinsburg United Methodist Church. She was active in bowling leagues in Turin and Constableville and the Turin Women's Golf league. In recent years she was a director of the Meadows Tenants Association in New Hartford N.Y. and at the time of her death was Treasurer of the Sunset Wood Tenants Association of New Hartford, N.Y. A marriage to George T. McMahon of Watertown, N.Y.and Sackets Harbor N.Y. ended in divorce. On November 3, 1941 she was united in marriage to Arthur Clifford Moore. Mr Moore died on June 21, 1989. Elizabeth is survived by three daughters, Constance D Benson and husband Michael of New Hartford, N.Y., Cora J Kaufman of Port St Lucie Fl. and Patricia Ann Regan and husband Larry of Jensen Beach Fl. A stepdaughter Mrs. Lois Wilson of Parishville, New York. Two sons Thomas P. Moore and wife Elaine of Syracuse N.Y. and Richard G. Moore of New Breman, N.Y. Also surviving are many beloved Grandchildren. Three Step-sons William D Moore, Arthur Claire Moore and Donald Moore and a step daughter Elizabeth A Schweitzer died before her. In memory of Elizabeth, in lieu of Flowers, those friends so wishing may make donations to the Martinsburg United Methodist Church, c/o the United Methodist Church, 7618 N. State Street, Lowville, N.Y. 13367. A funeral service with Rev. Mary K. Guy, Pastor of the Lowville United Methodist Church Officiating will be held on Saturday Oct. 25th 2003 at 11 AM at the Virkler-Percoski Funeral Home 7676 N. State Street Lowville N.Y. Calling hours will be 7-9 PM on Friday October 24, 2003. Burial will be in Martinsburg Cemetery.

I am researching the origins of Servatius families in USA. Mine originated in Bausendorf, Rheinland/Pfalz, Germany. I am wondering, new to the list, if anyone else in the group is researching the surname of Servatius or know where the group of Servatius that settled in Oneida Co. originated from? I discovered at www.familsearch.com there was a huge amount of Servatius' that settled there...

Charming tale! Brought me a smile!

Thanks, Anne. My grandmother who lived with us had a canary of excellent song whhen she lived with us. "Dicky Bird" loved each one of us equally. Your cousin, Jim Hartigan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 6:08 PM Subject: [NYOSWEGO] A BIG newsday in the Oswego Pall Times, August 16, 1928 > I just had to share this with you..... > > The Oswego Palladium Times, Thursday, August 16, 1928,..... > > PET CANARY, 16 YEARS OLD, DEAD > > A bird, upwards of 16 years old, died yesterday. It was "Dicky" the pet > canary of the family of Mr. and Mrs. Paul Kelly, East Sixth Street. Mr. Kelly, who > is a custodian of the County clerk's building, has had the bird for more than > thirteen years and it was about three years old when he got the warbler. Monte > Lass, present chief of the fire department, was the original owner of > "Dicky." For many years, in fact up to two years ago, the bird was a singer, but old > age brought silence to his golden throat, and thereafter he could only peep > and chatter after the fashion of ordinary members of the feathered tribe. > > In the latter days of his life "Dicky" showed all the symptoms of senility, > even to baldness and crippled feet. He was unable to hop onto his perch, and > was satisfied to slump down on the floor of the cage. Yesterday he weakened and > died; excessive heat is believed to have hastened his end. > > "Dicky" was a neighborhood pet and his advanced age was regarded as most > unusual. > > > .......My condolences to "Dicky's" family past & present....Anne Ruggeri > > > ==== NYOSWEGO Mailing List ==== > Oswego NYGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoswego/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Obituary May 2, 1917 BARNEVELD, TRENTON, ONEIDA COUNTY, NY. "MRS. JOHN HUGHES Long Time Resident of Town Dies After Long Illnes Mrs. John Hughes Succumbs, Following Long Illness Patiently Borne.   Susan Jones, wife of John HUGHES, died yesterday afternoon after a long illness. Mrs. Hughes was a woman of beautiful character, esteemed by all who knew her. She was devoted to the best interests of her home and family. The sympathy of the community goes out to the bereaved husband, by whom she was greatly beloved.        Mrs. HUGHES was born in Wales 79 years ago, the daughter of Roland and Elizabeth JONES. She came to America and located in this town when 16 years old, and had lived here ever since, a period of 63 years. April 8, 1859 she married John HUGHES, and seven children were born to them, five of whom are living.            Five of these survive their mother, as follows: Edwin HUGHES and Mrs. Jennie MCINTOSH of Trenton, Frank HUGHES, Chicago, George HUGHES, Syracuse, and Charles HUGHES of Auburn; three sisters, Mrs. Matilda AYLOTT, London, England; Mrs. Elizabeth OWEN, Poultney, Vt., and Mrs. Mary WILLIAMS, Granville. Eight grandchildren also survive.        Mrs. HUGHES bore her last illness with a fortitude and patience that evidenced her strong Christian faith. Her lose is deeply regretted. The funeral is at the convenience of the family." Source is Sept. 8, 1919, Monday morning "Utica Daily Press". Thanks to hammer for this lookup. This is my 2nd great grandmother. Jan Jordan in VT

William Worden born about 1831 in VT, resided in the Town of Lee and later Canastota married M. Calista Spinning June of 1853 in Town of Lee. Their children were: Eva, Edward, William and Helen. Looking for any descendants of William and Calista. After death of Calista William, Sr. made his home with his son Edward in Canastota. Had a relative named Paul Runge. Looking for any descendants of William and Calista. G. M. Freeman Vincit Qui Se Vincit

>From your neighbor, the NYMADISON LIST> Check out their spirit! making connections LIST to LIST. Share your knowledge and others' knowledge and help one another become more connections savy! Jim H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Ingalls" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Revolutionary land grants in Madison county > Bety Auten has 'The Ballotting Book" which contains the names of all the > Revolutionary War soldiers who received lots in the Military Tract. Betty > can be reached at: [email protected] > > Anita Ingalls > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Salyer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 8:19 PM > Subject: RE: [NYMADISO] Revolutionary land grants in Madison county > > > > Yes, I've been meaning to call Carol about this. However, I'm not sure > when > > to call. I'm sure she is busy. I'm aware of the map your talking about. > The > > Madison County Historical Society has a real good copy of it. It shows > > Joseph's son, Benjamin, owning his land and someone called Richard owning > > the rest of lot 55 (probably related to Derrick, but I haven't identified > > him yet). The John you mentioned is the same John I mentioned. He turn his > > lot 55 land over to his brother, Derrick, and moved south a couple of > > miles. There's quite a bit of info available about him, a little about > > Derrick, but almost nothing about Joseph (who I'm really interested in). I > > suspect John's descendents still live in the area but I don't know who > they > > are (they submitted an Adams family file a couple of years ago to the > > Madison County Historical Society). > > > > Greg > > > > > > At 05:35 PM 11/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >I found the Town of Sullivan Historian, Carol Greene @9065 North Rd. > > >Bridgeport, NY 13036 to be extremely helpful. (no e-mail though) She > sent > > >me a copy of a1853 map which shows "John Adams #47 our relatives were > John > > >Haywood lot #(?)43. I too would like to learn about the land grants. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Greg Salyer [mailto:[email protected]] > > >Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 3:49 PM > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: [NYMADISO] Revolutionary land grants in Madison county > > > > > > > > >Elisha Adams was given lot 55 in Sullivan Township for his work during > the > > >Revolutionary War. The lot is about 2 miles south of Bridgeport. Elisha's > > >sons John and Derrick and my ancestor Joseph Adams settled on the land > > >around 1806. Elisha then sold part of the land to Joseph in 1815. The > > >record of that sale indicate the land was "granted by letter patent dated > > >the 22nd day of September 1813". I've been trying to find a record of the > > >original land grant. I have a few questions perhaps someone can answer. > Was > > >land in this part of the county given by New York State or the Federal > > >government? Was it normal for people to settle on the land several years > > >prior to an official grant? Does anyone know were I could find this > grant? > > >Thanks. > > > > > >Greg > > > > > > > > >==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > > >Search the list archives: > > >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > > >the name of the list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > > >Search the list archives: > > >http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > > >the name of the list > > > > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > > Search the list archives: > > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > > the name of the list > > > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search the list archives: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > the name of the list >

----- Original Message ----- From: Diana Law To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 10:16 PM Subject: Genealogy Column Dear Stars Magazine: What has happened to our Genealogy Column? I have been looking each week thinking that I had missed it the week prior. It appears that you have dropped the column. As a board member of CNYGS, I must say that would be a real blow to all of the folks who are trying to do family research. We count on the book reviews, local notices of conferences and meetings and of course the queries. In fact, I answer some queries for our organization and very often, I refer folks to your column to submit queries, especially if they are out of our area. I realize that computers have changed the way genealogy is done BUT there are so many researchers who do not have or use computers. We need to serve them too. Genealogy is a very fast growing hobby. Is there any chance that this will be reconsidered? CNYGS meets this week-end and I fully expect this topic to arise. We usually have between 80 and 100 in attendance. Is there anything that we could tell them? Is there someone on the staff that we should directly approach as a group about this? I very much appreciate your attention in this matter. Regards - Diana J. Law, County Packets Coordinator - CNYGS

> A friend of mine sent this to me and it's a great tool, even if it is available for a short time. > > HeritageQuest Online and ProQuest Historical New York Times - http://riversideregionallibrary.org/ > > Click on the link, enter "welcome" as the password, and start searching. This is good for only a few weeks, but it's for real. Do your lookups while you can. > Hi, On the homepage it gives the password as WELCOME, but as in this message welcome works not the caps version. psTo the Warth researcher here at Oneida, HQ has the whole book that I sent you a few pages of earlier today. margy

I would like to express my gratitude to the organizers, sponsors and presenters and classmates who helped to make the conference an example of things to come for our Family History community. A labor of love, well done! Jim Hartigan Camillus, NY

Elizabeth "Betty" A. Moore October 20, 2003 Martinsburg - Elizabeth Ann "Betty" Moore formerly of Houseville and Francis Street Martinsburg N.Y. died peacefully at the Presbyterian Home in New Hartford N.Y on Monday October 20, 2003. She was born in Gouverneur New York the daughter of Howard Roy Weedmark and Mary E Apple Weedmark and was the adopted daughter of Charles J Maxiner and M. Beatrice Lowery Maxiner. She attended Gouverneur Schools and graduated from the Watertown School of Commerce in 1926. She resided in Watertown, New York working for the Bagley and Sewall Company and later with her late husband Arthur C Moore operated Moore Northern Haulers Trucking Co., Inc. of Watertown, New York. In later years she worked at the Lewis County Court House in Lowville New York in the Lewis County Historians Office assisting G. Byron Bowen in the publication of the 1970 "History of Lewis County" and later was Secretary for the Lewis County Mental Health Clinic until her retirement in 1975. She was a member of Zenith Capter #346 Order of the Eastern Star and before affiliating with Zenith Chapter served as Matron for two terms with Dirigo Chapter #390 of Turin N.Y. She was a past president of the Turin Civic Club and the Lewis County Women's Republican club and was a member of the Lewis County Historical Society, The Martinsburg Historical Society, Constable Hall Association and the Martinsburg United Methodist Church. She was active in bowling leagues in Turin and Constableville and the Turin Women's Golf league. In recent years she was a director of the Meadows Tenants Association in New Hartford N.Y. and at the time of her death was Treasurer of the Sunset Wood Tenants Association of New Hartford, N.Y. A marriage to George T. McMahon of Watertown, N.Y.and Sackets Harbor N.Y. ended in divorce. On November 3, 1941 she was united in marriage to Arthur Clifford Moore. Mr Moore died on June 21, 1989. Elizabeth is survived by three daughters, Constance D Benson and husband Michael of New Hartford, N.Y., Cora J Kaufman of Port St Lucie Fl. and Patricia Ann Regan and husband Larry of Jensen Beach Fl. A stepdaughter Mrs. Lois Wilson of Parishville, New York. Two sons Thomas P. Moore and wife Elaine of Syracuse N.Y. and Richard G. Moore of New Breman, N.Y. Also surviving are many beloved Grandchildren. Three Step-sons William D Moore, Arthur Claire Moore and Donald Moore and a step daughter Elizabeth A Schweitzer died before her. In memory of Elizabeth, in lieu of Flowers, those friends so wishing may make donations to the Martinsburg United Methodist Church, c/o the United Methodist Church, 7618 N. State Street, Lowville, N.Y. 13367. A funeral service with Rev. Mary K. Guy, Pastor of the Lowville United Methodist Church Officiating will be held on Saturday Oct. 25th 2003 at 11 AM at the Virkler-Percoski Funeral Home 7676 N. State Street Lowville N.Y. Calling hours will be 7-9 PM on Friday October 24, 2003. Burial will be in Martinsburg Cemetery. Watertown Daily Times Utica Observer-Dispatch Adirondack Mountain Sun Journal & Republican

Got it, thanks. Gregg ----- Original Message ----- From: David Rafferty To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA-L] How do I subsribe to other lists Go to www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb for the michigan gen web site and a listing of counties you can access. You can also find other lists to join or instructions to leave them at www.rootsweb.com Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] How do I subsribe to other lists > I forgot how I subscibed to this list. I would like to subscrible to a > similiar list that there might be for Tuscola County Michigan. How do I > check if there is such a list? > > Gregg > > _________________________________________________________________ > Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet > Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > ______________________________ ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== Contact the List Manager at [email protected] Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/

Go to www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb for the michigan gen web site and a listing of counties you can access. You can also find other lists to join or instructions to leave them at www.rootsweb.com Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregg Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] How do I subsribe to other lists > I forgot how I subscibed to this list. I would like to subscrible to a > similiar list that there might be for Tuscola County Michigan. How do I > check if there is such a list? > > Gregg > > _________________________________________________________________ > Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet > Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > ______________________________

My number one rule for genealogy is to give it away in order to keep it. If I help a fellow researsher, her/his new knowledge helps me. The golden rule? Jim Hartigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margy Bousman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA-L] Re: [NYCAYUGA] Barber ALLEN - 1810-1830 census - NY>IL > I don't mind if you delete every email I send, I do delete his emails. They > are against the AUP of RootsWeb. The company that provides this and almost > 30,000 other genealogy mail lists for free. > > What he is doing is wrong. It is against the basic premise of what > RootsWeb is all about. Shall I stay silent as I watch a wrong being done? > I think not. > > Genealogy is fun when the number one rule of the provider is not being > broken. > > Margy Bousman > List Admin for 33 lists at RootsWeb (Not NYOneida of course) > > > > But it is not Jim or the list. It is entirely > > within your power - to respond, to accept, to ignore, or whatever. > > > > Relax. Genealogy is fun > > > > Larry > > > > > > << > > -----material. It is a choice. > > > We are not being forced to contact Jim. > > > > > > Marie > > > > > > > > > No we don't have to contact him, but we on the Oneida list are getting to > > read an agruement that took place on another list and I have no wish to > see > > it. We've already discussed it here at an all too long length already. > Also > > he asks for volunteers to contribute to a pay service and that is against > > RootsWeb's list policies unless he has asked the staff at RootsWeb for > > permission first. > > > > What a waste of archive space. I'm over it and will never use the service > > because of this. Might even leave this list, it's been fun the last 4 > > years. Oh well, nothing stays the same. > > > > Margy Bousman > > >> > > > > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ > > > > > > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ >

I forgot how I subscibed to this list. I would like to subscrible to a similiar list that there might be for Tuscola County Michigan. How do I check if there is such a list? Gregg _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

Rather than respond directly, the following I have discovered, sums up the way lists work. It's important that we keep open minds, get balanced viewpoints and be tolerant of others, if we are to become stronger as a genealogical community. If I or you help one to become stronger, then we all become stronger when he helps us. Jim H ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 2:53 AM Subject: [NYCAYUGA] CNYGS Lookups > Dear List, > As the List Administrator for the NYCayuga mailing list, I have been reading all the comments about the appropriateness of Mr. Hartigan's posts, and would like to share my thoughts and my reasons for not intervening to block him from posting to the list, and then request that, as Mr. Secaur has suggested, we lay this topic to rest and get on with the business of helping each other with our family research. > First, I do not see his offers to search for a local repository of Tree Talks for out-of-towners as a "commercial" enterprise. Rootsweb and the local Genweb sites have relied on "people helping people" since their inception, and this is a prime example of someone doing just that. Many people subscribe to a local mailing list as their first step in their search of a new region, and anyone who is willing to offer their assistance is an asset. The Central NY Genealogical Society may be an organization well known to most of us who live locally, but the person who lives in Oregon, has just discovered his connection to Central NY, and subscribed to the list for the first time, would no doubt deeply appreciate someone telling him about CNYGS. And offering to find out what library or Family History Center in his local area might have copies of Tree Talks for him to research in could be seen as a big help. > I realize that for those of us who are long-time list members, it can get annoying to see the same post time and again, but, as has been suggested, it is a simple matter to delete it if you recognize Mr. Hartigan's name and don't care to read his messages. Some of the newer subscribers may be seeing it for the first time and welcome the assistance. > My guess is that many people have no idea the volume of people who subscribe to the list, post their queries, wait to see if there is any response, and then unsubscribe within a relatively short time. As list manager, I get copies of all the subscribe/unsubscribe requests, and I can assure you that there are many many people who will be reading a message from Mr. Hartigan for the first time the next time that he responds to someone's query. I have had people do the same for me when I put out feelers as to how and where to proceed in researching a new area of the country, and I welcome every shred of assistance I can get. > As list administrator, as well as adminstrator for the Cayuga County Rootsweb BB, I have virtually hundreds of e-mails come across my computer for review each week. I know that Mr. Secaur will be helping people by looking up cemetery entries from online sources, saving someone the time of searching themselves. I know that Mr. Hecht will be posting messages about new pictures that he has scanned and added for us to enjoy. If the topics aren't of interest to me, I know that I can delete them quickly, but I certainly welcome their contributions, and know that some other list member will appreciate their efforts. > I apologize for this being a long-winded message, but I again, respectfully ask that we end this topic and get on with the much more pleasant task of searching for our twigs and branches. If anyone feels the need to pursue this issue further, please do it to me personally and let's keep the list free of personal disagreements and focused on the genealogy we all want to enjoy. > Regards,Kathleen DeckerNYCayuga List Administrator > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >